move dude
>I can't
yes you can

>>2958358
How?
I've looked at all possibilities.

>sell house for pennies
>rent cuck shed that wont kill you physically
your health is more important than shekels

>>2958366
The rent would be higher than my mortgage.

common lets see some pics of the shitshack

>>2958380
The house looks fine. They put a nice fresh coat of paint on it before they sold it. I'll see if I have any shoddy work pics later

>>2958353
Mold alone is unacceptable. Beg as much of your family and friends as possible to arrange to get sewer fixed and mold scraped.

>>2958353
>I could go on and on
please don't. we don't care.

typical blame everything wrong with you on something else instead of your shit genes.

>>2958353
You could try to sue, but it's extremely hard to prove they knew. Maybe it hasn't occurred to you, but you don't need a finished home to live in it. You already know cunt's fucked, so do the needful and GUT it. See something indicative of moisture problems? RIP IT OPEN. Open the WHOLE FUCKING THING to the framing. Once there, find the immediate problems (leaking sewer lines) and fix. Pick the least fucked spot and build a 'clean' room (sheet plastic and air filter to create clean bubble). You now live in the clean room while you tackle the rest. Your status will be:
>living like a dormnigger
>health no longer compromised
>no more unknown problems

At this point you either
A: determine it's worth rehabbing, and do it one system and room at a time
B: say fuck it and let it foreclose
C: electrical fire

Good luck anon.
t. lived in actively-under-renovation homes the first 14 years of my life

>>2958397
I have no family or friends. Do you know where we are?
>>2958418
I've fixed the sewer. Myself. As I can't afford a plumber. Idgaf if it's not to code.
I've fixed multiple mold areas.
At this point it's an endless money pit. Far too many things are wrong and it's not worth putting money into. I'm extremely good at home repairs and have a lot of knowledge. Still saying it's not worth.

There are random parts of the house that don't even have insulation
Some parts have LOOSE 2x4s in the exterior walls. Like not even a nail.
ALL the flood boards smell like mold and need torn up in the entire home. Those weren't even installed correctly and are double subfloored for some reason.
It's hopeless.

>>2958418
I forgot to mention it's built on a high water table area. So it's always above 50% humidity inside the house. Despite outside being like 35%

>>2958426
>>2958425
Well then, it's time for B or C. Those are the options. Could always go route D, which is clean up and rent out, but that'll be bad for the ol soul down the line.

>>2958425
> I'm extremely good at home repairs and have a lot of knowledge.
Yet bought a piece of shit house.
What did OP mean by this?

>>2958436
>inspector says it's good
>OP can't see through walls
It happens

>>2958353
You're letting this thing get to you.
I know that house problems can do this to a person (ask me how I know)
Maybe things will looks brighter if you stop for a day or two.

>>2958353
Are you the anon with paper foundation and stinky blinds?
At least mold might be fully manageable post pic
>>2958425
>At this point it's an endless money pit
People always forget that they will still have to pay rent to themselves
>>>/out/
Always a good option and you can start without a shed. No garden? If you have parking space maybe start domestic van life

>>2958353
Welcome to home ownership. Now get on Reddit and complain about how landlords are greedy and stealing everyone's money.

>>2958353
do major remodeling, accidently burns down (aka jewish lightning), collect insurnace, build new house.

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>>2958521
>>OP can't see through walls
not an excuse

>>2958522
It's been 7 years
>>2958561
>Are you the anon with paper foundation and stinky blinds?
Not him
I have a parking space. Considered getting an enclosed trailer and converting it.
>>2958564
>Welcome to home ownership
Everyone's house is like this?
>>2958588
>just drill holes in a walk through before buying the house.
Ok
I bought one of those and it didn't work. So I got another and it didnt work.

can we get some more specifics?
you are speaking in such despondent generalities it's hard to know if you are overwhelmed due to unsolveable problems or if some of this is in your head. There are a couple red flags...

>you refuse to sleep in the same house as the sewer pipes, yet you are good at home repairs and fixed the sewer.

like, what did you do, this doesn't add up. Functioning p traps and vents, and your sewer pipes are not the enemy.

>humidity in house above 50%.
above 60 is an issue, 50 is literally ideal. at 68% humidity 68 degrees you'll start to get the mold

but dehumidifiers and and ozone machine can dry out something to an incredible degree as a start, and there's no way this is as hopless as you make it unless...

well
give us 3 pictures. I trust there are issues, I suspect 7 years of thinking the same way might have your eyes seeing only the messed up parts

if there's no insulation, ok, rip down the drywall, add it and finish it how you want. this is /diy/ though not therapy, the only true thing I know for sure is you are burned out on the house, not that the house is fucked.

>>2958425

adding a new layer is how remodelling gets done. 2 layers of flooring does not mold make.

What do you mean floorboards were not installed correctly? a shitty lvp install just sits there, on the floor. its not making you unhealthy.

>>2958593
>Everyone's house is like this?
Every house and building ever needs maintenance and upkeep done to keep it from falling to shambles. Once in awhile they need a ton of work done to fix past mistakes or ongoing issues... Renters will never understand this.

>>2958623
Do you know what sewer gas does to a person? I do. And I never want to be put through that again.
>dehumidifier
I can't afford to have my power bill double
The insulation isn't the only issues. It's the mold as well. I'd have to remove siding, sheeting, studs, drywall, and all for what? It'll just mold again. There isn't sufficient ventilation under the house. I laid a moisture barrier but it doesn't seem to help. The water table is only 10ft under grade. Even the roof decking was moldy in the attic. I had a new roof installed. It'll mold again.
The house is build like trash. Well hidden under nice paint. I got scammed.
I'll take a picture tomorrow when it's light of the goo that runs out from behind the siding.
>>2958625
Adding another layer without sealing from moisture underneath isn't correct. It'll cause awful smells and mold. Actually maked me start coughing to go into one room of the house until I pulled all the floor and replaced it. Turns out the rest of the house is the same, just hidden under carpet so it doesn't stink unless you lift it up.

Try
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corsi%E2%80%93Rosenthal_Box

>>2958593
>Everyone's house is like this?
Nta, but yeah. Many houses are a nightmare and a money pit.
Now imagine instead of a house, we're talking about a flat in a building where the other owners don't see the need to maintain common parts. Ask me how i know

>>2958684
>The water table is only 10ft under grade
The floor in your house is above grade? How much?
Is the humidity ascending or does it form on the ceiling as well?
If the problem is the water table being too high, maybe you can dig a ditch around the house and have it filled with gravel. Look into that

>>2958771
I'd say the floor is 3ft above grade. Enough to crawl under. The humidity comes from under the house.
The house also doesn't have gutters because the facia boards are wavy or flat out uneven because of "repairs" or additions to the house.
The ground is sloped away from the foundation.
There is also a creek that flows year round in the back. About 50ft from the house.

>>2958784
install fans in the crawlspace under your house

>>2958593
>Everyone's house is like this?
Well it's usually less shit to fix at once if you don't slack on maintainance but even the best kept house can suprise you with a huge bill sometimes. There's insurance for some of that but that will raise your running costs.

>>2958353
>I could go on and on
You hired a retarded inspector, and now you've made a grave financial mistake. Retards should never own homes.

>>2958811
Ok rentoid

>>2958784
What's your climate?

>>2958684

See this is the red flag. Yes, I do But go back to where I said all you need is fuctioning p traps and vents and your pipes arent your enemy

you said you are knowledgable and capable

what did you do, why is it not safe? why are you exposed to sewer gas? this reason i suspect is a YOU reason not a real reason.

you think tearing up a layer of floor under carpet helped you stop coughing?

these things are boogeymen in your head, do try and solve your house issues but dont blame the house, tear it down and move into a shed when thats NOT THE ISSUE

seek mental help

>>2958836
You lack reading comprehension
He WAS exposed to sewer gas and fixed it.
The layer of flooring was moldy and NOT carpeted.

Seek schooling

>>2958840

go find your new butt buddy and help him fix his house
he needs you

He said the carpet was covering the flooring that was like all the other flooring in the house and laid down wrong.
carpeting over what was there is perfectly acceptable and how remodelling is done.

Sounds like there is a vapor barrier issue under first layer of flooring, you and him thinking that was the carpet guy's thing to solve is as fucked up as this guy thinking he cant buy a 12 pack of ramen and afford a dehumidifier.

shit like this half the time is houses having no ventilation out the attic, jussayin.

oh, also fuck you anon.

he says he fixed it like he says hes knows things like he says he wants to knock the house down for a shed.

something doesnt add up, i dont think he can fix shit for shit. I think we're talking plastic bags and rubber bands type fixes the way he talks.

>>2958829
What am i looking at?

>>2958829

this is what, dirty exterior siding? Some interior shiplap? if you are bothered by that simply wipe it down with a wet rag... is this supposed to be evidence of anything other than a surface that hasn't been cleaned in eons?

>>2958854
>>2958856
It's moisture coming from behind the siding.
There is no moisture barrier on the wall. Something isn't right and moisture is coming from under the house and saturating the walls.

>>2958857
Vapor barrier only prevents moisture from inside going to the outside. It also helps prevent drafting. What's the climate like?

>>2958864
Fairly dry and mild. But I live next to a creek that flows year round and have a high water table

>>2958865
Right, I get that. I don't think that's the root issue, though. My house is 30'x50', with an average of 18" clearance between the floor joists and ground. I live right next to a river 150' wide, and the water table is generally about 4' below surface level. Spring melt creates a shallow pond about 25' x 15' in the crawl space. All that to say, this doesn't cause me any issues. I know that for hard fact as the house is nearing 60 years old and the only water damage is from roof failure.

How is the crawlspace set up? What is the foundation like? What part of the world?

>>2958857

Due to condensation, a roof leak, or a plumbing leak. If you clean that, and more black streaks like that appear, I will start to believe you
In a "dry and mild" climate, that kind of moisture cannot be coming from below, especially in november.

Is that a localized spot?
To the internet skeptic, that looks like a small spot of dirty siding that hasnt been wiped off in years, i think the source of dirt is organic material on the outside there in the 90° edges.

now, what did you fix on your pipes and why? lets get into that too

what kind of wall material? you specifically said tear down drywall earlier when pretending your hands cant fix things.

go buy a moisture meter, put it on the wall inside behind those stains, post a picture of that here. DO IT.

>>2958869

you sound totally on point except for the part where you say moisture barriers are one way.... why?

op
Ive been considering saying, so will, also, go buy a roll of underlayment, like the 12 foot or 8 foot wide and add a layer under the house using a staple gun. doing edges with zip tape. for a complete seal around whatever supports but... if you are right that wouldnt hurt.

>>2958815
I own. I just wasn't a retard about it when I bought the property.

>>2958353
>buy house
>all these problems
>330 AM
>slightly open windows on second floor
>open basement windows
>decide to deep fry mushrooms on gas cooktop
>fill pot completely with oil
>turn to high
>oops, I forgot to buy mushrooms
>"turn off stove" (i thought i did)
>drive to 24 hour Walmart
>browse for an hour, since the stove is "turned off"
>arrive home to house "fully involved" in flames
>ohthehumanity.jpg
>insurance pays for new house

>>2959017
You shouldn't be a retard about renting or any other big financial decisions either

>>2959034
what if you dont have gas

>>2958373
yeah but you wouldn't fucking DIE

>>2958784
>the floor is 3ft above grade.
>The humidity comes from under the house
This seems unlikely. Is there ventilation through the crawl space?

>The house also doesn't have gutters
Can you fix the facia and then install gutters and have them discharge the rain water 10 or so feet away from the house

>>2959171
>You shouldn't be a retard about renting
Renting *is* retarded, though. Your money is going into your landlord's pocket, not back into the equity of a house and your general net worth. You're throwing money away. That screams retarded.

>>2958581
probably this.

Did OP have any semi-official INSPECTIONS???

>>2959248
op still hasn't squared up the value of his FUCKING LIFE against whatever the fuck he's got in the bank (doesn't matter).

>>2959312
>Your money is going into your landlord's pocket
I said do not be a retard.
It's only for shareholders or maybe private landlords profit if you go for that overpriced or versized option. In other options there is no real landlord, the only shareholders are the renters and not needed profits go right back into your bank account. But even with the first option it might be worth it if you find something cheap and don't want to 'throw away money' for interest.

If you can safely afford mortage and upkeep costs good for you but for many people thats just a gamble. If everything goes well the real flex is a good start for your kids, not you going into debt and overtime work for something risky you might still get priced out of after paying it off due to tax increase shenanigans depending on the region.
I'd recommend rent and live cheap, save up, and buy with as much cash as possible but not move there unless you're sure you can afford it and really want it.

>>2959331

OP has disappeared.
He's one of the psychos that thinks he knows everything, its all fucked and the pros dont care and are specifically out to get him so hes totally broke and on his own in a fucked situation

but hes not. regular stuff is happening to a regular house. Look at the siding picture, the ONLY actual "evidence" posted.

hes claiming thats black mold coming out of the wall because its so soaked, and its defying gravity to do that and coming from below.
when it looks like siding that just needs one literal quick wipe with a rag to appear new.

he's insisting he knows a lot and can do good work
he's insisting he doesnt have the money for a dehumdlidifier (this is less draw than a fuckin mini fridge)


he wont do anything, post evidence of any actual problem or take any advice or steps towards a solution

hes one step away from scrawling weird shit on his garage doors.
ive seen this before, but only after the loonies get evicted.

I nearly guarantee whatever fixes he does rubber-band and plastic bag around a cut sewer pipe tier, because the sewer pipe HAD to be cut for some equally mentally ill and unsolveable problem

>>2959174
Electric range cranked to max will still do it. All the better if it's coil type as opposed to glass.

>>2958883
You're correct, it works both ways, saving me a lot of water damage from my roof leak. I had arctic winter moisture control on the brain.

In your line of thinking, you can also just flat vapor barrier the earth itself if it is an earthen crawlspace and the concern is moisture coming up from the earth, into the air, into the walls.

Of course, OP is claiming that the system is
Ground moisture (bare earth beneath house)
--> air moisture
--> walls/floors

If that's right, just interrupt this. IMO biggest consideration is interrupting airflow from crawlspace into walls. Cut holes in the crawlspace skirting, put mesh-covered vent holes in place on all faces of the house. Worst case scenario the air moves through at a faster rate, meaning less time for evaporation and less overall saturation. Or, interrupt the moisture-loading process. Get a roll or two of vapor barrier and seam tape and cover the entire earthen portion of the crawlspace. The active surface area for the moisture to evaporate from is then reduced to near zero. For added insurance, vapor barrier the entire underside of the house as well - don't give the air a way into the house.

Personally I prefer ground cover and ventilation. The earth cover prevents moisture loading of the air, and the ventilation allows moist air to dissipate (OP claims he's in a relatively dry environment). This is what's under my house, and it works.

The reason I want to know the environment is the other possibility is that it's a combination of hot, moist air outside and air conditioning inside. The moist exterior air, when contacting the cooler structural elements (especially from air leaks as OP states there's no vapor barrier), will condense. This is an entirely different problem.

>>2959354

dude, gold star of an explanation you are 100% on point.

You make a good point for the OP too, a barrier on the ground willbe far easier to do well then one completely on the joists, I advise this.

OP, you NEED a moisture meter.

>>2959348
t. knower

>>2959348
You sound insane btw. And again lack reading comprehensive.
It's no wonder OP left the thread. Seems like he's been shit on for nothing and was offering explanations for stuff. Then morons (such as yourself) started babling nonsense that he never asked for.
Seek mental help and schooling.

>>2958418
This guy fucks

>>2958353
Quit bitching and just be thankful you have a home

I'd be willing to bet OP's house is fine, but suffering from carbon monoxide.

Get carbon monoxide alarm STAT.

>>2958521
Inspectors who find too many problems aren't inspectors very long. Remember their job is to find one or two negotiable items so there realtors can make their commission.

>>2958425
Code exists for a reason, sounds like you're the kind of handyman who does electrical with speaker wire.

>>2958784
How did you look at this and go, "this seems like a great idea, buying this house!" again?

>>2959600
Yeah that guy is insane and OP was the normal one, sure, good call totally random internet poster.

>>2959346
You don't know what you're talking about, and it shows.

>>2958418
yeah this seems like the best posssible options. try getting friends or family involved in helping to reduce money and time investment, ideally also neighbors if they are sympathetic or maybe some apprentices who are interested in learning DIY. also make sure to keep notifying us of your houses progress OP, itll be interesting to see this become a saga

>>2958353
>>HVAC isn't engineered correctly
Tell me more about this please. I've currently got some fuckery going on in my house that involves a newly installed furnace.

>>2960211
What sort of fuckery?
It's easy to fuck up hvac

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>>2960221
We got a new furnace installed. It's unevenly heating the house. All the ducts are underground and there is no crawl space. It blows all the hot air through the main run of the ducting, from the furnace that blows underground up through to the second story. I imagine it blows all the hot air right past where-ever there might be a branch in the system, as the kitchen and my room get mostly just cool air blown through the grates, almost no semblance of warmth. So we said, fuck it, we'll crank it to a higher temperature than we'd ever use just as a test. The area where the duct leads vertically up to the second story in the living room, the entire wall was very warm to the touch. And soon afterwards it got too hot in the house. Now, back to the kitchen and my room, only a slight improvement on the air temperature being blown in, but this is a highly impractical solution to the fix. The previous furnace had no problem heating the whole house evenly, that and it didn't have such an aggressive blower.
Now I'm left scratching my head at who's at fault. The installers of the house in the 80s, who generally didn't do too good of a job building this house... or if the estimator/contractor just wanted a nice payout and didn't factor in that the underground ducting might be configured in a way that's not optimal for their furnace.

>>2959348
>OP has disappeared
Mold got him

>>2960225
So they didn't touch ducting? Just the furnace/air handler it's self?
Air works like water in that it will take the most direct path.
Could be that the air handler isn't powerful enough. Idk if you can look up specs for it or not for your square footage.
My guess is they didn't hook up the ducts correctly on the furnace.

>>2959600

you've said seek schooling twice now

what's the highest level of school you graduated from
unless you have a masters or phd, I've done a lot more schooling than you

>>2959600

>you lack reading comprehensive

well, at least im not missing chromosomes like you

>>2960291
>>2960225
Definitely the ducting isn't hooked up correctly. Forced air furnaces almost always use a single blower that runs air over the heat exchanger and into the ducting.

>>2960225
modern code requires a fresh air exchange, depending on where they put it you could be sucking fresh air from outside into your downstairs vents with the heat bypassing it.

something could have been knocked loose and fallen, or it could also be passing right by the lower duct as in your old fan filled the house with heat and the duct on the lower level filled and seeped. the new mega blower might be pushing it right into the top of the house bypassing the bit sticking off to the lower level. try closing and covering all upstairs vents.

might invest in a duct cam too so you can snake it and see what's actually happening without destructive investigation.

last your air return from a lower level could be clogged or blocked. if no air can get back to the furnace no air will go down that branch, which would cause the air to circulate only through the top.

>>2958353
oh ya? but what do i do about this
https://files.catbox.moe/01d98z.mov
sorry i cant upload a webm but my "ip range bas been temporarily blocked" even though ive never posted on this board

>>2958353
Don't worry, anon
You'll be eaten, soon

I live in a 100 year old saltbox. Many of the same issues. I solved my health problems with an air filter in the bedroom. Now I have one in every room. The Chinese ones are best, they have insanely bad air pollution and mold in every new house so of course they know about filters.

>>2958353
>le toxic mold
Try eating a vegetable or an orange sometime

>>2958358
Thank you for offering to pay my moving expenses. When can I expect a check?

>>2958353
>slowly find issues with home that weren't disclosed by seller or inspector
No shit, you're supposed to have MANY inspectors or know what to look for yourself.

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>>2958353
mold is not joke

pic rel died of mold in LA condo, and was married to a Jew so you'd think "Jew murdered her".....

but just a few months later that Jew dies in same condo of same mold. WTF?

>>2961151
Wait she was a spic?

>>2958564
This.
Feel relieved your not the only person to buy a money pit. I took my time, hired home inspections and still got fucked hard. I went back to the inspector, basically said tough shit.
People have been buying homes sight unseen the day they hit the market. How many are regretting it now

>>2961151
Why do you say it was mold?

>>2958853
You're the guy who fucked up the carpet huh

>>2959600
You shouldn't be allowed online, at all.

>>2961151
She is also a jew, btw.

>>2961374
*was

>>2958362
>I've looked at all possibilities

From your first post, I assume you can pass as a women to someone with bad eyesight.

So...get yourself a skimpy dress and go volunteer at the old folks home. Latch onto some old rich guy who's about to die and get him to leave you all his wealth. Once its in your bank, pay someone to some fix up the house that you (for reasons we wont get in to) can't fix yourself.

How is this a bad plan I ask? Its not

>>2958353
Im in a similar situation, not as bad, but it's pretty bad
>sewer gas
is it constant or just every so often? For me it's intermittent and I can air it out... actually just got up to check and sure enough, I had to open the window.
>foundation
huge problem here, the whole complex is built on terrible fill dirt, clay heavy and expands and contracts with the seasons, doors don't latch, cracks in all the walls.
>mold
dunno about mold, but it's a flat roof and there's been leaks during heavy rains. Ive had to poke 2 holes in the ceiling over the years I've been here
>housing market
I'm hyper gambling hoping to win and then be able to move. Today is not working out there either :(
I used a family member real estate agent to move here and I regret it. Under-priced the house I moved out of and I think the inspector was bought off for this place.

I actually bought a CJ-100 tent last year when my gambling was going well (and a heater buddy, starlink etc) so I could escape to living in a tent if needed. Not sure what to do, but you're not alone

Just fix the house you faggot. I've been flooded with 5 ft. of water and hit by tornados and still rebuilt.

>>2958353
While I can't help you, OP, I can understand what you're going through, and I'm sending you my support over the ether.
I bought a garage with a mold problem, and have been struggling with it since.

>>2958353
sell house here, its a 5 year warranty. everything has to be listed, all leaks all craks in the flooring. if you know it your price has to be set equally low. bought a house for 50k this way.