Why has construction gotten so shit over the past 20 years? Ever since the start of McMansions, it's gotten worse.What would you do if you were this young rocket scientist in this situation?
>>2961523Might want to start by not flooding your house to clean the floor.
>>2961524That's what the floor is for stupidIt's supposed to be water proof
>>2961531It's not a shower retard, you can't just dump 20 gallons of water on a kitchen floor and expect it not to warp.
>>2961523Why don't Americans build house with cement
>>2961542It’s against our religion.
>>2961523This is what happens when everything is made out of sawdust. Soak it up, bloat, and warp. Even humidity destroys this trash.
>>2961523>Why has construction gotten so shit over the past 20 years? Ever since the start of McMansions, it's gotten worse.our economy is dysfunctional. anything that can't be outsourced to third world countries is unaffordable. even if you cope with insourcing illegals, it's still unaffordable.>skilled trades>healthcare>education>childcare>housingall unaffordable.
>>2961523>>2961556also the misuse of >theirs'is icing on the cake. kek.
>>2961541>20 gallons of water on a kitchen floor and expect it not to warpBut that's exactly what i can do on my vinyl floor. Overfilled my sink a few times.
>>2961565Vinyl is flexible, tile is not. When the subfloor expands & contracts, the vinyl expands and contracts with it. Not the same for tile.
>>2961542They got their foreskin stolen from them at birth so they're deeply damaged """""people""""".
>>2961589It's vinyl tiles though.
>>2961614Vinyl tile, vinyl sheet, it's the same thing material-wise. Both are flexible. When I said tile before I meant like ceramic or porcelain or stone tile.
>>2961531>>2961589>>2961614Vinyl will happily break in situations like the video. The planks are glued to multiple pieces of subfloor, one of them gets wet first and swells and there will be a huge force pushing one side upward as the other side is held in place by the other piece. > the tile floor should be waterproofNone are, that’s why tiled shower floors are treated below the tiles and tiled pools have membranes below. Many kitchens don’t even have tile below the cabinets and literally nobody waterproofs baseboards to keep water from spilling below the floor. If the subfloor is waterproof like concrete theres no immediate damage but then still y’all Americans put underlayment or this nasty green fibre subfloor shit below your floors that gets moldy and rotten before anything else
I'm sure what is shown in this fucking short is 100% everything that happened>YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED NEXT
>>2961523first qyuestion to ask of any video showing some thing bad happening, or about to happen.WHY ARE THEY RECORDING THIS?they knew this was going to happen. NO ONE mops like that.
>>2961523why are they spreading water around like that?why was this video being recorded?what is OP's reason for posting this?everything about this is sus.
>>2961542Cost.>>2961552This.>>2961556Also this.
>>2961523> 3rd world cleaning practices For decades industry has been compressing sawdust into building products and importing cheap labor to install it.
>>2961556Are you talking about murica, the greatest country in the world?
>>2961542because we own the entire building, rather than rent a single room in one
>>2961652This video is ragebait but this is exactly how people mop commercial kitchens, they have flooring and drains designed for deal with it though.I can theoretically see someone who worked in hospitality doing this once they get their first place out of home, even if I doubt that's what happened here.
>>2961523It’s a house not a boat
Putting aside that purposefully dumping water on your home's floor to mop it is not the correct way to mop (makes me wonder how he rinsed), I'm curious about the cracks in the field of the tiles rather than at the mortar joints (like at 33 seconds in) -- shouldn't the mortar be the first thing to go?
>>2961541you can, tho you shouldn't also your floor shouldn't wreck itself if you do so, but in your dystopian shithole of a country that's the standard
>>2961904no responses to this huh euros, hows touching the walls when you stretch.
>>2962342yes, we dont own anything aside of a tiny apartment here, you got us good heret. has 2 apartments in the city and two vilas in the province
>>2961542we have so many treeslumber frame is cheap, fast, easier for foreign labor>>2961610this is actually very explanatory
>>2961523>way too much water>2015+10 not having water "resistant" laminate woodISHYGDDT
>>2961541As a 30+ year builder, 7 of those years setting tiles in high end custom homes, that's absolutely bullshit.That kitchen floor should be able to hold All that and more. Baseboards in any pre-1930s home were at least 8' high, just because this exact method of mopping was the norm.Housing has definitely become progressively more garbage over the years under the guise of "Green Materials" and other bullshit "home systems" many of which like OSB and MDF being simply a way for mills to profit from their waste products by offering an inferior, but often more costly alternative.Just take roofs for exanlpe:>up to the 40s, most houses had solid 1x planking for the substrate>by the 50s plywood was the norm, still very good, but not as strong long term>invented by Armin Elmendorf in California in 1963 OSB comes on the market; presented as an ecologically sound alternative, the claims are dubious when juxtaposed to total home loss and failure of structures built with OSB as opposed to more solid wood products.>pic relEven the fact that THOUSANDS of dollars are spent on each house, trying to "Button it up" with vapor barriers, spray foam applications and then are required to have yet more mechanicals and systems installed just to mitigate the toxic environment that not allowing a house to "Breathe" creates.When one considers carefully, it seems that modern homebuilding is analogous to modern medicine; I.E.: Not only has the bar for quality of professionals been significantly lowered over the past 25 years, but procedural norms are now dictated by the industries who create and sell the products.https://www.fpl.fs.usda.gov/documnts/fplgtr/fpl_gtr236.pdf>>2961557Just missing a *Chirp!* which is likely in the version with sound.But yeah. here in the states even multi-million dollar homes are TRASH, because the suck is inherently baked into the system.
>>2961610This is unfortunately true.Please don't bully, we had NO CHOICE in the matter.
>>2961655Checked and kek'd1.Because that's how you wetmop in da Ghetto,(and McDonalds)2.They record EVERYTHANG3.Inspire a convo about shit building practices and materials--I'm all for it4.No U
>>2961774kek..Not since before you and I were born.And I say that sadly.https://youtu.be/nQd7g565e2I
>>2961523>Why has construction gotten so shit over the past 20 years?>real estate as a financial instrument with specific formulae for assessing value according to general metrics like # of bedrooms, but no hard and fast benefit to better materials or tiers of workmanship>little if any penalty for hiring unskilled labor that doesn't speak the same language construction plans are printed in>no steady supply of older-growth lumber, newer growth is far less dense>regulations revolve around energy efficiency at the time of installation, not longevityproperty is now money, and you're a sucker if you put in any effort past the bare minimum to achieve that store of value
>>2962031>Grout jointsMortar is the adhesive that sticks it to the substrateSubstrate was clearly incorrect, possibly a fix and flip where the fucking money grubbing flippers either hired hacks or did it themselves RIGHT OVER TOP of a linoleum floor.I've seen this a handful of times.Seriously, back in 2008 when everything collapsed the last time,(but the (((Banks))) got bailed out)So many people lost their jobs, their homes...EVERYTHING.A whole lot of them decided to just go into "Handyman work" since every moron with a hammer and a drill/driver thinks that $800 of shiny new Milwaukee or DeWalt tools makes you a "Jack of all trades"Hard to watch, but has it's moments of hilarity.
>>2963178>Realpoasting™It's disgusting, isn't it?I want to create a new paradigm here.I want the Gexxers, Mills, Zoomers and eventually Alphs to band together and make this shit right.I don't know if we'll have time, but there's no reason not to endeavor to anyway.We DON'T HAVE TO PLAY THAT GAME
>>2963180>We DON'T HAVE TO PLAY THAT GAMEuntil we have a concentration of people who actually care enough to hold office and change regulations, we do. next closest thing is probably mobile homes or renovating campers and sticking them in technically-not-a-home "garages"
>>2963181Outside of corporate limits,(the boondocks) you certainly can.There are still places where you will be left alone for the most part.I plan to to buy some acreage soon, and if all goes well, I'd like to start a smol company that builds and ships ready to assemble timber frames for communities who want an alternative to tiny homes,(as you may know, those got targeted QUICKLY for regulations that caused the price to go from $6k-$10k all the way to $30-$50k in NO time, but that was withing Corporation limits,) or what you'd proposed.Not just that, but other things too related to accessible land ownership and community building.I hope to take on a crew of Apprentices and other skilled members, where they start by building their own non-perm housing, but are allowed to live on my property as long as they like under contract, with the end goal being they can save up to buy their own acreage, put the timber frame or non-perm up there and do the same or perhaps even a similar but horizontal expansion of the business model...(custom hardwares, other things for the timber frames--(they still have to be outfitted with everything else,) etc.Fuck man, they could even start affiliated companies that ship and erect the structures, companies that provide aquaponics systems, Well drillers...The point is, One man CAN'T do it all, and I'd like to see NETWORKS of these businesses take off and be the foundation builders of all the little communities that are STRAINING to happen now.
>>2963181>a concentration of people who actually care enough to hold office and change regulationsThis is also a part of it.It would be a hell of a lot easier to "Buy In" to a Ghost town, than to try to sway an established township.I think most people underestimate just how BIG things really are here.
>>2961542its even more crap than wood. why dont we nordics do it? we got easy access to balt and slav """experts""" in cement and brick housing...
>>2961655>why are they spreading water around like that?So that the floor and base plates will break.>why was this video being recorded?For rage bait.>what is OP's reason for posting this?For rage bait.
This is a Mexican tiktok trend, women posting videos in houses build on stone and drainages with tiled floors.Burger women see it on social media, copy it in meme wooden houses and get mold and ruined floors.Bravo.
>>296152320 ?Sit down OP... let me tell you a story. Here in England, I live in a house that parts of which are we think older than your country. Those were the bits built of (i shit you not) stone and 'cobb'. What is that? It's basically mud, straw cow shit and whatever else they had to hand - maybe the odd labourer too. My walls are about a meter thick and super, duper insulated. That part of the house is SOLID.Another part of the house was built in we think somewhere between the first and second world war. It was terrible. We're talking rotting wood from floor to waist height. A total write off. Multiple attempts had been made to stop rising damp over the last 30 years and all had been bodged.Then, there's the 80s extension. That was worse. Collapsed drain, so collapsed floor. Built over a fucking well. No drainage outside. Leaks down the walls. My point is, its not the last 20 years. It's been a steady decline for hundreds. We spent something like 100k on renovations, just to make it habitable. But also... dont be a retard, that's not how you mop.
>>2961774yesbut only when you average every aspect of a countryand it's a low bar
>>2961774Still better than whatever shithole you hail from... Unless you're one of those self-loathing Americans, then kindly fuck off somewhere else.
