How is this genre of home kit?
Best for floods.
>>2962353There's something charming about vacation houses where the kitchen is upstairs. Beach houses in the outer banks do that a lot.Sounds like hell on earth having to walk up a flight of stairs every single time you get home.
>>2962395Better views when you are in the common spaces. Sucks when you are asleep in the bedroom under the kitchen, and people are stomping around.
>>2962353>fumes from a vehicle going up into living spaceNo thanks
>>2962353lung cancer starter pack
>>2962445>>fumes from a vehicle going up into living space>No thanksWho the fuck parks in the garage? That's where the lathes and milling machines go...
>>2962496I would say the table saw, router table, jointer/planer, band saw...
>>2962353>No rain gutters>and rainwater pouring over the stairs>Small overhangs>Ends of the wood are not protectedI guess I'd call this a disaster zone.
i hate garages under living areasloud as fuckdetached or gtfo
>>2962588Consider the following
>>2962496>Who the fuck parks in the garage?white people. I don't leave my car outside like some 3rd worlder.
>>2962732>white people. I don't leave my car outside like some 3rd worlder.I have stuff that isn't driven very often parked in my shop or a lean-to off the side of my shop that is dedicated for parking stuff out of the sun and inclement weather. The stuff I drive regularly just gets parked in the back of the house. Why the fuck would I put it in and take it out constantly?
>>2962732>Being this fuck-brained Stormfronter as if tons of white people don't leave their cars outside for various reasons, including that it doesn't hurt the car
>>2962732>white people. I don't leave my car outside like some 3rd worlder.Oh no, what would I ever do if my pickup got a scratch on it...
>>2962759In a society centered around capitalism, your new car is everything. I've thought deeply about this and really there is no reason for having a nice new car.I can understand an old car, but this new shit? Absolute garbage.
>>2962761>In a society centered around capitalism, your new car is everything. I've thought deeply about this and really there is no reason for having a nice new car.>I can understand an old car, but this new shit? Absolute garbage.Agreed completely. I will keep fixing old stuff until I die. I have zero use for new fangled bullshit.
>>2962445Suicide house.
>>2962761>>2962765I have found my People..I feel bad for Millennials and Zoomers who only came into car/truck ownership AFTER The Cash 4 Clunkers Scam.>>2962773Dis nigga tryna KEEL 'imseff wit dat 'Lectric car, Yo!
>>2962353>How is this genre of home kit?Pathetic.
>>2962395There's a development of row homes in my city with the kitchen/public spaces on the 3rd floor lmao
>>2962759Not that Anon, but you drive a beat up Ford, I drive a Porsche Cayenne S, so forgive me if I want to park it in the garage like the garage was actually built for. I'm a carpenter so I have a ton of tools, but I keep them in a storage room inside the house so that they don't rust to shit (very high humidity here), so my garage is actually used as a garage and not a workshop.
>>2962900Walk your fat ass up those stairs if you want to eat, lol
>>2962702this doesnt drown out power tools and door openers
>>2962936The fuck is going on at your house that those are going when people are sleeping?
>>2962958i dont ever want to hear garage noise when im inside the house
>>2962911>you drive a beat up Ford, I drive a Porsche Cayenne SMy vehicle has made more money than you ever will.
>>2962445>homo is losing his shit over his modern catalytic converter equipped car tuned to run a perfectly stoic air fuel ratio at all times making a smell of his shitty little TINYHOME TM idling in the garage for 12 seconds
>>2962911nta butmy fucked up ford will rape you bitch, fuck younice job financing an suv retard.
>>2962353You can span 20' with 2x12s 12" on center so a kit is more or less worthless desu
>>2963026That 2-car garage is probably about 22'-24' wide, unless that door's tiny.This kind of house would be good for a smaller lot where you need to reduce the footprint as much as possible due to zoning, or for rocky soil where digging is a pain in the ass. Could also be good for flood zones since those require the lowest floor, including the basement, and any HVAC equipment, be a certain distance above flood elevation.One advantage I can see of it is it keeps your indoor utilities easily accessible while avoiding the cost of excavating for a crawlspace, because everything is basically just in the ceiling of the garage. Assuming the garage is itself heated (make sure the overhead door is insulated and seals well), you'd also have a much lower chance of pipes freezing & bursting.If you do a truss floor, there'd be plenty of room to run ducts, plumbing, EMT, etc.Main disadvantage is that you're going to get plenty of exercise climbing stairs.
>>2962911Omg a porsche cayenne *S*?HOLY FUCK GUYS THAT MEANS HES _NOT_ A LITTLE BITCH!
>>2962496More to the point, who leaves their vehicle in the garage running?
>>2962353Can I put a living area on top of a garage the size of a medium warehouse? kitchen downstairs, though, and I would want one of those big two-doors on the second floor to winch stuff up there.
>>2963104Sure, why not? A dwelling space is just a conditioned space with utilities. If the structure of the building will support the floor area, you can build your home on pretty much anything you want. Only thing that might prevent it is some building or zoning code requirement, but that's a legal issue, not a "can it be done" issue. The rest of it is just a matter of budget.Also, it would probably be cheaper & safer to install a loading ramp instead of trying to winch things up. Or you could always do a lift -- go vintage with one of those accordion-style gates that always broke and threatened to take your fingers off.
>>2962911>Open up marketplace >4 cayenne s's under $5kYour entire existence is a façade>>2962759I also own a full length f350 with a v10Swap your thermostat if you haven't
>>2963115I guess I should rephrase. I should have asked why you don't see it more often? It's probably an obvious reason like people have families and kids, and that's their priority as opposed to a sick bachelor pad with room for projects. and money lel>go vintage with one of those accordion-style gates that always broke and threatened to take your fingers off.based
>>2962445just put venting?its not that complicated
>>2963122>I should have asked why you don't see it more often?Yeah, the reasons are pretty obvious.Number one is money. Putting aside construction budgets, you have maintenance, upkeep and utilities. The larger the area you have to maintain, the larger the price. Then you have taxes. Most places have some kind of property tax, and paying for a large, unfinished area is generally not in most peoples' budgets. The people who can pay said taxes will usually opt for something more along the lines of a mansion rather than a warehouse. Add in that warehouses themselves tend to be in less desirable areas (which is why you can build large footprint buildings) more subject to crime, and most people with the means to do such a thing just chose not to.That said, I was involved in the design work of a project where the owner was something of a car enthusiast and had a multi-bay garage constructed with a dwelling directly above. I left the firm before the design was finalized but it was around 16 bays if I remember right.
>>2962445You'd have to have an exterior style fire walk door at the bottom of the stairsOnly a retard would figure out how to get fumes from the garage into the house
>>2963160>Only a retard would figure out how to get fumes from the garage into the houseNever underestimate the level of retardation of your fellow humans.
>>2963151That all makes sense. I have a buddy whose family inherited a large shop with a couple lifts, paint booth, and a living area. The currant primary usage is storage, and I'm supremely jealous. >I was involved in the design work of a project where the owner was something of a car enthusiast and had a multi-bay garage constructed with a dwelling directly above. I left the firm before the design was finalized but it was around 16 baysvery based. I don't know what you do, but it sounds breddy cool.
>>2963169>currantAh, geez. Now I look retarded.
>>2963121>Swap your thermostat if you haven'tWas there an issue with them or an updated thermostat? This one's been chugging along just fine for me the last 100,000 miles. Currently sitting at over 255,000 miles. It's a cab and chassis and has a 9' long flatbed and 5 speed manual transmission. Been a damn fine work pickup.
>>2962445Most houses with a garage have a living space above it, they usually just have more spaces off to the side instead of everything only being above a single car garage.
>>2962735So its not constantly exposed to extreme temperature shifts and overnight (potentially freezing) precipitation.
>>2962975hard cope
>>2962353it's a observation cabin kinda thing?
>>2962353>genre of home kitCan you translate this into English please?
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>>2962978>>2963103>>2963160>doesn't know how air flow works>doesn't know cars emit fumes when not running Ngmi
>>2963248Lol. Just hauled 65-70k worth of calves to the sale with it today. Last week I hauled almost 50k worth to the sale. It's constantly hauling hay around here and there wherever I need it.
>>2963222>So its not constantly exposed to extreme temperature shifts and overnight (potentially freezing) precipitation.I guess this is why I drive a Ford that can actually handle those things, rather than a Poorche...
>>2962395>Sounds like hell on earth having to walk up a flight of stairs every single time you get home.maybe if they were icy, but otherwise just don't be fat>t. fatty on a 3rd floor walk up
>>2962911>buys a Porschealright>suvfor your wife?
>>2963269It's going to break your heart when you learn about nat gas and furnace emissions, anon.
>>2962353I will never live above an occupied garage because vehicles (not just BEV) are impressively flammable. My local fire chief lost his garage to an ICE car fire, which I found out when he arrived to put out my burning Suzuki which had an electrical fire I was not prepared (I rented part of a trailer and only had a little extinguisher) to extinguish. If you must do that consider installing a fire suppression system which is not difficult for a DIYer but it's still far wiser to separate home and vehicle storage so one cannot fratricide the other. You can connect them with an enclosed metal breezeway to avoid winter weather, and the garage itself can be steel instead of flammable wood as mine is. (I only add steel structures, each separated to prevent fratricide like the Air Force does muns storage.) The overall design pictured is fine but its wise to future proof before your inevitable age, physical decline and damage degrade your mobility. Build everything to make moving everything in and out easy and your entire life becomes much more comfy. Forethought is free. >>2963497>maybe if they were icy, but otherwise just don't be fatYou don't get to decide to be healthy and undamaged for life. It takes very little to fuck up mobility. Stairs WILL ensure at least one fall which further reduce mobility. Stairs should have a shallow pitch and strong railings sized for easy grabbing, but the really smart thing to do is build a ramp with suitable treads for winter/wet traction and have at least one winching point like a recessed D-ring placed where it cannot be a hazard. Rails should be strong enough to anchor rope pullers (Maasdam make nice ones) and gear like the small 12v Harbor Freight winches I use for horizontal pulling of heavy loads.I bought industrial mobile stairs to attach to my shipping container shop so I will never be forced to use a ladder. Multi-storey structures only make sense when coerced by owning a tiny lot.
>>2963502That's why I don't have anything like that in my home. It's for suckers
>>2963497I've been living in a house with 7 stairs to the main door, covered in tiles, for 35 years now.No casualties so far. There's like 3000 houses built like that in immediate vicinity of my house.I do agree that it's a design unnecessary if you live in the middle of nowhere and not in cramped suburbs. I still appreciate the ground floor being above the actual, floodable ground level.
