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Not sure if it’s the right term but is bartholomews hand cut deeper or shallower than the table? Are any of the shadows trickery?

It’s a cool carving anon

Got the tabletop all sanded down, and I'm just waiting on my finish to get here. Legs are welded up and all painted. I'm hoping I don't mess anything up when drilling for the threaded inserts.

>>2967232
That's a good idea. I did see the gallon containers, but I wasn't sure if it was the same. Also, a gallon is a lot lol.

>>2968168
>I'm hoping I don't mess anything up when drilling for the threaded inserts.
Use a stop collar and don't forget to use a countersink to bevel the edges.

>>2968196
Roger that, thanks.

>>2968168
>Also, a gallon is a lot lol.
It won't spoil for a decade, at least.

i'm the anon who's been contemplating making a woodworking biz since a year started talking to ai about it and got more of a general sense of biz direction and options in a few days than did with wwg in a year
bastard wouldn't stop blowing smoke up my ass though calling me like george nakamura or something for simple wedge through tenons took me around the whole circuit drawing elaborate optimistic plans only to pour water over the whole thing later cause it was missing some key detail
feel back to square one and robbed even though i do have more info now that i did before

>>2968564
retard

>>2968595
why it's fun just chuck in a prompt and look at it go i know the disclaimers but there are good nuggets here and there

>>2968597
more work than it's worth to try and weed out the "useful" information it's trying to make you happy with. just go on any of the bs woodworking sites now if you want to read blocks of ai generated nonsense. plus you're gonna walk in to sba or the bank for a loan, they're gonna review your business plan and laugh their asses off if all you did was use chatgpt

>>2968597
LLMs are awesome as long as you don't care about getting the right answer.

>>2968605
no jackass i'm not cutting and pasting the text for some application just brainstorming
>>2968617
yes its more about clean fast search first and foremost fact aggregation and then running it through various angles

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ive procrastinated a lot on this but its finally ready for polyurethane. I wanted the top to be kind of dark red and the surrounding boards to be black but the black turned out basically dark brown and the red turned out meh. so I sanded the red back and re stained the top and sides black. which looks brown lol whatever

>>2968641
I like it.

>>2968564
>Using AI to try to learn anything
Reminder that that slop doesn't know anything, nor does it think. It just calculates the words most likely to go in sequence in response to a prompt based on the training data it's ingested.

>>2968649
I use the Brave AI thing to sift through search results for answers to simple question. It's been pretty useful especially since other search engines completely gimped their results.

>>2968620
>asking a chatbot trained off wikipedia and r*ddit for business ideas is brainstorming
this is why you can't start a business, you're traded. and that's ok

>>2968663
tarded*

>>2968663
It's about not painting yourself into a corner as far as sponsorships and regulations

>>2968736
AI does not do anything for that.

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>>2968793
it's almost like the tables have turned on my prospects here i was hungering for a sustenance level shop and now i wonder if my craft is even good enough and should i include other diy things in it which sends me down another rabbit hole of what could i possibly make that would make a difference around me and would it sell with my shut in personality it's taking the form of a maladaptive daydream but at least it's the good kind

>>2968809
have you talked to any shops in the area? what were you thinking of doing? cabinetry, furniture, carpentry, or something else?

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I just got one of these as a gift but I am a complete noob to carving and have no idea what to use or how to sharpen this thing. What do I need to get to keep this thing sharp because it isn't really shaving hair out of the box.

>>2968932
whetstone and leather strop

does hardwax oil really make even construction lumber look matte and premium in a way danish oil doesn't

>>2968993
No

>>2968050
They should be 13 men.

>>2968809
Making a successful business doesn't really depend on your skill at woodworking but rather at your skill at marketing and also luck. People earn a living making cutting boards and charcuterie boards. These aren't high skill objects. Convincing people to buy them is a whole other problem.

>>2969045
The 731 Woodworks guy uses a CNC to mass produce little trays he sells a ton of, for example.

I'm in to whittling.
Still confused the difference between a roughout knife and a sloyd knife. Anyways, I'm thinking of making a spoon so now I'm looking at brands to buy from. I do not like flexcut.

>>2969114
731 is a pretty good example as long as you're okay selling your soul
>start making random furniture, give away for free
>keep the plans, buy a site, post plans for sale
>rinse and repeat for 10-15 different pieces
>make basic woodworking videos
>rinse and repeat until you've got a few "viral" clickbait videos under your belt, e.g. "everyone does THIS wrong"
>take on as many sponsorships as possible now that your getting recognized, review their tools and/or subliminally name-drop them, e.g. "i printed this on my bambu p2s in 5 minutes"
>take money from channel and buy up-and-coming tools to review, now you can give the disclaimer that you've bought the tools with your own money to gain trust
>become complete tool review channel, cranking out at least 2 videos a week
>post sponsored links to deals on your site, getting kickbacks for each click and buy

>>2969146
Yes Anon, we know how influencers work.

>>2969186
obviously not if you think his business, which is just "marketing and luck" according to you, is centered on some shitty trays lmao

Complete beginner here. Any good links for me to research and gain more knowledge?

I'd like to start simple making kitchen utensils with closed grain wood, then a chopping block, and slowly work my way up in skill to be able to make myself a solid wood desk in about 5 years time of practicing.

>>2969191
https://rentry.co/4ch-wwg

>>2969190
Anon asked about starting a woodworking business, not how to become an influencer.

>>2969201
wtf is this circular female logic
>anon wants to start a business
>(you) cite an influencer, incorrectly
>(me) corrects you
>REE anon asked about starting a woodworking business, not how to become an influencer
this used to be a pretty comfy general

>>2969203
Aha! Now I see the source of the problem. You are an idiot.

This post is me
>>2969045

This post is not me
>>2969114

>>2969204
lol suuuure, you should've stuck with >>2969114 was your only post

>>2969207
>doubling down on their stupidity
ISHYGDDT

girls girls you're both pretty

>>2969201
>>2969203
>>2969204
>>2969207
Hey, twatbags, I suggested the trays as an example of the kind of thing that sells and is low-effort.

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>>2968863
i haven't talked to any shops personally but speculated based on how much sawdust they have on the premises and the layout most noticeable of them are furniture glass houses that get flatpak type shit from elsewhere and have a small workshop in a corner to paint themselves as an industrial supplier for institutional contracts, then there are sawmills where real joinery happens but they mostly build door and window jambs rail and stile doors windows etc after that it's independent craftsmen, cabinetmakers that work on site they're hard to track
i don't know if i want to do anything specific just stay in the tinkerers middle ground where i can build anything but it might not be a sound idea business wise i wanted to start small to scout some more maybe be like the japo bento box maker with a small shop by the creek a lot of them have machinery passed down to them from previous generations i could pull funds as a heritage worker larp but then i'm permanently put in that bracket and there is little room to scale what a shame i even had a rackety shack on the edge of a cliff in mind
>>2969045
yeah but since i'm bad at marketing and convincing the intent is to turn the dial in the other direction and make something mildly interesting that sells itself in a way or just chuck it onto a middleman
>>2969114
why would you use such an expensive gadget to make simple things over here people only use cnc when they have to create things like dense carvings day and night
for simpler things an efficient workflow can beat a cnc as has been proven time and time again
>>2969146
i want to keep my soul though and that seems more of a videography thing a lot of youtubbers call themselves content creators before woodworkers which gives you an idea where the energy is most involved

>>2969335
>why would you use such an expensive gadget to make simple things
Because he can set it to make a bunch of them at once, they'll all be made identically, and he can code in custom engravings on each one separately if he needs to.

Maybe he has other shit to do than create a factory-like workflow for a small-cost item that his tabletop CNC has already paid for itself in?

>>2969340
yeah but it's a one trick pony that eats into everything else
hes running around people pleasing and hustling for those $10 trays which he has to create a lot of to pay for that $20k single point of failure and creating alternative sources of revenue because he doesn't want to stay in and create in the first place which might even be the best thing biz wise

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Can I build a cabinet without side and back walls? (Green parts). It’s supposed to go into the side of my bedroom and it’s not supposed to move around, so I don’t have any need for it. Plus, it seems like stick framing would work for this purpose.
Also, I want to skip the “floor” of the cabinet since I’m somewhat height limited as have the doors and drawers about .5 inches or something above the hardwood floor of the room so that I can open them without scratching the floor. I’d assume the small gap produces a shadow so that it looks ok.
Or did I overlook something and I must absolutely have walls on all 6 sides of my cabinet, even if 4 sides are fully touching already existing walls and floor?

>>2969344
>it's a one trick pony
It's an automated router that does multiple things, including rough-cutting templates, surface flattening, detailed carving, and so on.

I get you personally aren't into the idea of using one, but don't pretend they aren't a highly useful option.

>>2969335
>i haven't talked to any shops personally
then wtf are you doing? this is your dream right? go talk to some real people in the business. ask to shadow them, sign an nda or whatever and ask about their finances, suppliers, your ideas, etc. as long as you're not competing with them they won't give a shit. i wanted to start a brewery a while back so went to local breweries in my area and shadowed each of them for a few days as well as interviewed the owners. ultimately i ended up deciding against it for different reasons but had i not went to real businesses that dream would have stayed a dream
>i don't know if i want to do anything specific
you need something that pays the bills, doesn't have to be what you're passionate about. there's a furniture store by me that basically makes customized cabinets and sells them as wardrobes/dining cabinets/etc but the owner has his own section of the shop where he just fucks around most days making whatever while his employees work on the orders. pretty sure there's some r&d write-off you can take too for that

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>>2969340
go on his site, his business is has little to do with cnc it's all centered around plans and tool deals. you can't customize any of his slop either

>>2969414
>Posts pic with four items he batches out on the CNC

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One YouTube video and two hours later.
Guess I’m a woodworker now!

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>>2969542
Maybe I should sharpen my chisel, but other than that, 9/10, I’d say!

>>2969542
>>2969543
It's a start, use a coping saw to cut the waste out, then just shave with the chisel.

>>2969543
the beech piece is legit impressive if this is really your first try

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rate my corner radius jig you niggers

>>2969607
that print quality is abysmal, 3/10 being generous

>>2969607
Buying the Kreg kit probably would've been cheaper than printing that.

>>2969351
No problem with that really. It’s more of a shelf rack rather than a cabinet but no problem with that. Make sure it gets some stiffness from the joints or connects to the walls to avoid it wobbling

>>2969610
why the fuck would i print a throwaway tool in high quality, all that matters is the top is flat and the radius is accurate
>>2969613
$40 for the kreg kit, $25 for a kg of pla+ and an hour in fusion with unlimited profile possibilities. i did the math,!at 38g of plastic it's only 95¢. you're retarded

>>2969634
dont ask for a score if you dont want to be judged

>>2969590
Thanks, I guess. Not sure if you’re sarcastic, the sides are cut with a somewhat busted Japanese saw (but from Sweden) and I used a piece of wood as a guide, so it’s not fully chiseled and most of the material was removed with a jig saw, so kinda like >>2969588, but with less coping.
It just wanted to try it for the lulz and to see if I’d like the look and if it’s worth learning. Turns out, it isn’t.
Maybe I’ll try the quick table saw or router + jig version next.

>>2969636
wasnt meant sarcastic
>Maybe I’ll try the quick table saw or router
there isnt really a reason to do box joints by hand anyway, they are unforgiving. on a dovetail, nobody notices when the angles are not perfectly symmetric

>>2969635
i included the word nigger, you were warned

>>2969634
>Doesn't include his time in calculations
NGMI

>>2969673
Your time is worthless.

>>2969680
>Projecting

>>2969642
>niggers
>heeding warnings
chirp

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I put in the threaded inserts and applied the first coat of Arm-R-Seal. I really like the way it looks so far, but I think I saw some slightly dryer patches. It said not to go over any mistakes, so I hope I can fix it with the subsequent coats. Luckily I started on the bottom of the table.

>>2968451
Is that also true for Arm-r-seal? My can of satin has a date from 2013 lol

>>2969634
> pla plastic
It’s like hot glue. It melts if you, say, leave it in your car.
The kregs are made of glass reinforced plastic.

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>>2970148
all you no3dprintfags can do is belt about "muh hot car" nigger it's a garage tool and i live in san diego. asa and petg are either maymays or not dimensionally accurate. anyways checkout my zog trolling box

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>>2970148
i also don't see kreg selling anything like this, the possibilities are limitless

>>2970156
You can't route that profile, guy. Best you could do is a 3/16th curve on those corners.

>>2970168
where router ends chisel begins

not sure if best place to ask
complete noob, have no wood tools or power tools available
want to build this https://rosegrafik.de/scilens-racing_rig-build01.pdf
what's the cheapest way I can make those cuts for them to still be clean, or maybe places where they sell wood can do those cuts for me?
I'm in Germany Cologne if someone knows shops like that.

>>2970216
Ask someone to lend you a hand saw

>>2970230
I don't know anyone.
are there any cheap ones that are good

>>2969413
i don't think anybody will give you their books and sources even if you were related to them unless you were set to inherit the business nvm some tourist with a firm handshake

>>2970139
I sanded lightly with 400 grit, and the second coat is on.

>>2970216
Go to hornbach or Bauhaus. They’ll make all the straight cuts for you, they may do the angles if you tell them the angle in degrees and it’s not very busy (officially they don’t offer it but they are able to). Getting the quarter sheets (1220x600) may be cheaper than having it cut from a full one.

If they won’t do the angles, the Irwin Jack saws are imo the best all purpose saws for the money but you’ll have to order one online. The back saw is slightly easier to use if you’ve never done angles before and it’s like $10

>>2970243
no they won't show you their books but you can ask them basic questions; largest unforeseen expenses, how they got started, dealing with local government, etc. point being if it's your dream to start a woodworking business then talk to people in your community

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>>2970293
damn there are so many models... is this one alright? I'm thinking I don't need a big one

>>2970293
also what's a back saw? I couldn't find any

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>>2970328
Should be OK, something else to consider would be a Ryoba, which has less of a learning curve because it cuts on the pull stroke instead of push.

Either way, get some practice in on an extra board on cutting straight, square lines with it before you try to do it on your workpieces.

>>2970340
arigatou gozaimasu

>>2970216
miter box and hand saw. get clamps too

I've been contemplating making myself a watch box out of wood
I know about the golden ratio and all that stuff and I've watched a ton of content about it, are there any extra tips any anons here could give me for my first woodworking project?
Im planning on doing more projects with wood so I'd appreciate other tips that don't necessarily have to do with boxes and such

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>>2970251
I checked on the work piece, and I am super happy with it so far. This is only the second coat on the bottom, and there's plenty of time for me to fuck it up. BUT I like it.
Ignore the weird holes. This is the bottom, and it was an inexpensive slab.

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fug, bros. I get it now. This shit is mesmerizing.

>>2970371
I'm only on my first project too, but this post (>>2969193) might be helpful. /diy/ is a slow board, but I'm sure some anons will be along with some golden tidbits.

>>2970371
birdhouses are pretty good starter projects. simple angles and if you fuck it up who cares: some whore bird will whore herself out in it nonetheless. cutting boards if you've got the tools. look at all the chink shit around your house and decide how best to replace it all with wood

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>>2970216
tried modeling this in sketchup. it's hard to get all the exact angles right since he didn't really include that, also it being in metric throws off things but I tried my best

>>2970340
Ryoba is a pain to cut big mitres with because of internal tension the wood and the wobblyness of the blade will make it go everywhere

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>>2970329
A backsaw has some reinforcement on the back (top) of the blade to make it stiffer. When doing long cuts it doesn’t bend as much. This gives you a bigger but straighter cut line when used right. The downside is it cant be used for panels or cuts deeper than the height of the blade

>>2970399
might be easier setups to make than this...
this one just looked nicer than a bunch of 90 degree things slapped together

>>2970403
I see, thanks

>>2970402
If it's wobbling you're probably applying force on the push stroke.

>>2970379
Thank you fren I really appreciate your help I'll look into it, also nice work on your first project:>
>>2970382
>some whore bird will whore herself out in it nonetheless
KEK thanks anon that made my day

Also, something i forgot to ask, if I'm making a watch box as I mentioned in my post (>>2970371)
Would it be preferable to use grooves or nails to hold my box together? Or should I just use both

>>2970927
Grooves or dowels and glue. Decorative boxes normally don’t have visible fasteners

>>2970943
The quarter-quarter-quarter joint also makes for a strong connection.

Through dowels (or Miller Dowels) can also look really nice.

>>2970926
>also nice work on your first project:>
Thanks, bro. full disclosure, the butcher block was purchased already made. I just cut it into the shape I wanted, and I'm doing the finishing.

third and hopefully final coat on.

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I'm super stoked with how this came out. No streaks in the finish, but there are a couple of gummy drip spot on the bottom that I need to fully cure before this table gets assembled and moved inside.

>>2972565
Looks very nice, how long did it take so far?

>>2972588
Thanks :)
I think I started mid-december, but I had to work on it when I had space to do all of the sanding and cutting in a separate work area. You could probably knock it out in less than a week. The application of the Arm-r-Seal is what took so dang long.

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Upon final assembly, the problem with my work became apparent. It isn't sturdy against lateral force. I only used two bolts per leg that are inline with each other. Maybe I should have used two pairs of bolts next to each other, but I think I have a different solution.

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I think I'm just going to connect the legs on the bottom using some more 1x2 tubing and flat strap on the top with a couple more bolts.

this is the most random question but I was given 5 3 meter long pine planks. they're dressed all round so I don't think they're toxic, but I have no clue what I should make with them? I was thinking of maybe a cat tower but idk, what wood you do?

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>>2972757
What kind of wood is that on the top? I really dig the looks!
I’m also building a table and I don’t want to have it “overhang” too much. I’m wondering, how much strength will I loose, if I make some cut outs at the edges, like pic related. It’s in cm, so a metric 4 by 4 is something like 1 3/4rd of an inch by 1 3/4rd of an inch, reduced down to half of that at the cut/joint.
Trying to work my way up from utilitarian, “just oversize it and put some screws in it” to “that’s actually something I’d like to have in my living area”.

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>>2972827
Looking into it some more, I probably should add another side to it and most joints you see, look like the one on the right (viewed from the top, black part being the leg of the table). I see the advantage (more surface area for glue), but in a table, I’d assume you’d want to keep as much of the horizontal wood as possible, since that is the critical load, which should be routed into the leg just fine when the joint looks like the left.
Is it just
>look at me! I’m a master woodworker!!!
circle jerking, because right seems a bit more complicated to make, or is it really better that way?

>>2972757
your table is wobbly because its square
only triangles are strong
this is very basic geometry that all constructors and children know
you need something to constrain the angle of the leg to the top. more screws or different joints are not going to do that efficiently because we all know torque is force times distance, the further from the corner the more sturdy it will be.
adding a bar at the bottom does not constrain the angle, because a rectangle can fold into a parallelogram without the lengths changing.
a triangle with three fixed sides is completely constrained, the angles cannot change. that is what makes it strong.

>>2972835
It's a table, not a roof, don't overthink it

>>2972827
It's a cheap acacia butcher block from a construction supply place.

>>2972852
>this is very basic geometry that all constructors and children know
haha, thanks.

>>2972835
huh this is the joint for the trim? you want to have the leg go into the trim?

>>2972864
you either pad the feets with a couple millimiters felt (real felt) or put shims (popsicle stick) under it.
The Problem with this kind of design is, the structure is too solid to flex under its own weight, and simultaneos the structure is not constrained against the wood flexing. So either add something flexible or compensate the warping

>>2972872
No, you were right. It has no triangles. I'm going to weld up some diagonal bracing.

>>2972876
thats not gonna fix your problem, even a rock solid table with perfect equal legnth feet will wobble due to most floors not being perfectly level

>>2972878
I put felt on the bottom already. It isn't wobbly, but I can tell that it will fold flat if a decent amount of lateral force was applied. Those legs would act like big levers to rip the threaded inserts out if that happened. Your first post nailed it. I'm actually surprised with how sturdy it is for my design being so poor.

>>2972882
that was a different anon

>>2972894
Ahh, I see. This table business is a lot more complicated than it seems.

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>>2969543
Oh, wow. That’s so much better! That was just a very light touch to the wood.
(I guess I need some coarser stone and a guide to fix the angle but it’s amazing what 10 minutes on a sharpening stone did to those random cheapo hand-me-downs)

>>2972976
> random cheapo hand-me-downs
That said:
I kinda got a taste for it and I need a few more sizes, a very small one and a bigger one for starters and while some random ass cheapo works, I’d like to get some proper stuff. But not exactly some expensive Veritas or Japanese meme stuff. Just a good, middle ground that will work without much fuss. I’m in Germany and I’ve heard good things about Narex, but they don’t really appear much online.
Oh, and that
>>2969636
> somewhat busted Japanese saw (but from Sweden)
Also needs a replacement. I can buy a new blade for it (bahco), but everywhere I look, the blades more, than the whole saw. WTF? Any recommendations on a mid tier one there? Or stick with bahco, since I don’t really have any complaints?

>>2972980
mhg standard line is the value king
i have a Z saw that seems good, not using japanese saws often

>>2972976
noice

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>had third kid recently and am on paternity leave
>wanted to fix a broken table that the kids use (tabletop has split and warped)
>wife says no
>"you're not hiding in that shed all day and leaving me with three kids, the table isn't important right now"
>fine
>still got the itch to do something with my hands
>spend my evenings building a tiny shed out of balsa wood
Newborns are so fucking boring. Hurry up and grow a personality already, or at least become capable of holding your own milk bottle.

Anyway, I've always enjoyed model building and I've always enjoyed woodwork. Don't know why I never thought to combine the two until now.

>>2973022
you set up a joke but I'm not going to make it

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wuddup fagets im makin christmas tree

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>>2973022
Finished the roof. Made some tiny jigs to cut all the joists at the correct angles, it was an interesting challenge to make reliable jigs that would allow for reasonably reliable repetition given the small scale of the project and the softness of the balsa wood.

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Going to start a project of replacing my pantry wire shelves with wood. Was planning on going with a floating shelf design light on the left, but I'm not sure how structurally sound that will be over time. Also from what I've seen, the shelves come out to like 3" in thickness 3/4" top ply + 2"x2" support + 1/2" bottom ply) which I think looks odd. Would something like the right be a better option?

>>2973382
I think the right is a better setup for storage and organization, but which aesthetic you prefer is up to you.

>>2973022
good luck with the project and the kids, and may you find time for yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bjTWv9GzD1k

Has anyone done checkering/stippling on rifle furniture before?
Is there a way to do it cheap, because all the official checkering tools are rather expensive.

I only want to do 1 stock.

>>2974056
https://youtu.be/le_4_O5K4dY?t=3334
make your own tooling, these guys use a thread repair file to profile a piece of bent tooll steel

>>2974060
Wow, thats actually ingenious. SAE and Metric threads both use 60deg angles, pick a TPI for your LPI and just file away. Youll get 60degree blades spaced perfectly to your LPI.
95% of the tutorials on youtube just show you making a single row cutter which is obvious, and the few who do the 2 row cutters are all shitty and inaccurate at best. Hopefully this will work, it makes sense in theory.

When I get some free time ill go and try and make one

>>2974068
Threads have their major and minor diameters truncated, the root and crest of a thread are rounded not sharp. If you use a thread file, or the side of a tap, or anything thread related, youll get the spacing and degree correct but it wont have a sharp cutting edge.

>>2968641
Thought this was from the 1800s. I like it other than the 2x4 on the far left sticking out.

Hey frens, new retarded in the hobby. I wanna do a skyline diffuser and am not sure if only gluing the wood columns to the base is enough for the arm lever they'll create when hanged on the wall. Do I need dowels? Maybe not all the columns but some rows?

Also, I'd like to avoid drilling holes on the wall if possible, can a 40cm x 40cm -ish diffuser be held on the wall with double sided tape?

>>2974080
the thread file is for shaping perfectly spaced teeth. the gullets and cutting edges are perpendicular to the teeth and likely filed with a regular triangular file

>>2974104
Gluing them to the backing should be fine, but clamping will probably be a bitch to do, I'd recommend screwing them in from the back so you don't need a complicated clamping setup.

As for hanging it, how are your walls constructed? Tape almost definitely won't do the job.

>>2974115
I'm in Germany, so bricks and render on top

>Tape almost definitely won't do the job.
Oh well, guess I'll have to do french cleats or z clips. Anything better?

>>2973382
Most of the support is on the ends. Even those small cleats aren't coming off the wall, but with floating shelves it's trickier to support the nose of the shelf.

Generally I'll build the floating shelves hollow in the middle then either support the front with long lags or add material to the cleat and prevent it from twisting with washers.

I sometimes have to do commercial large and heavy isolated floating shelves and the shop puts no thought into mounting them.

>>2974278
by commercial, I mean the framing is metal studs (double reinforced pop can), drywall (chalk), and the floating shelves are mdf (compressed newspaper)

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>>2973397
>>2974278
Ended up going with the floating shelf design. After installing the plywood it’s surprisingly study. I do have these gaps on the ends though because the room isn’t square. What’s the best way to fill them in? Joint compound and wood filler will probably crack when the shelves flex with some load. Is some sort of filler and then caulk the best way to go?

>>2974294
Generally, you scribe cut to every surface first so gaps don't exist. This is the only way for stain grade.

Bondo, a putty or 4" knife, and sanding will work when you're painting. You can also mix some of the wall paint up with painter's caulk if you can make a clean bead around the outside.

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for me it's 3

>>2974382
Which ways do each of these warp or twist and how much?

>getting laid off next month
>think about starting doing something completely different
>already have some basic experience in woodworking
should i take the risk? i'm in EU, thought about making custom solid wood furniture, one offs etc, something good quality that will last
i know this is a retarded ultra general question, but is there a market for it? i feel like people don't order tables from aliexpress and particle board furniture quality has went down while prices went up, so i feel like i have a chance to fit in

>>2974659
>>already have some basic experience in woodworking
>should i take the risk? i'm in EU, thought about making custom solid wood furniture, one offs etc, something good quality that will last
only some basic experience and you think you'll make a living off it, producing good quality that will last? I guess if you go full on brute and make stuff out of massive pieces of wood, you'll have the "last" part covered, but I doubt there's a marked for kludges made from thick wood and a bunch of screws, folks who like stuff like this will just diy it.
And the quality part? Europe is full of proper craftsmen, so I doubt you'll beat them quality wise.
What have you built so far?
It's one thing to complain about particle board slop, but it's another, to make stuff that even comes close yourself.

>>2974670
>only some basic experience and you think you'll make a living off it, producing good quality that will last?
i'm planning to do some trial projects and learn first, a few months of just grinding basically
>What have you built so far?
bathroom sink vanity unit, glued together from solid wood floorboards i got for cheap, it's horrible but it works and is a tank
storage room shelving and partition wall, all from 2x4 equivalents and osb board. it's so-so
kitchen cabinets, made from pre-cut particle board element i ordered (don't have formatting saw) - 2 standing sections, 2 hanging ones. not really satisfied with the board quality.
mudroom low cabinet for shoes etc, same materials as above
a shed. 2x4 equivalents and osb board, sheet metal on top, with a shelter to the side. also did shelving inside. pretty satisfied with this one
and some odds and ends here and there, palletwood stuff like small stepladder etc

i'm not really planning to some master craftsman from day 1. i just can't stomach working in an office with retards, earning money so another retard can benefit off my work.

>>2974677
Start by making something you can batch out in your evenings like cutting boards. See if you even like the process. Doing rough construction is a different beast from fine woodworking.

But you really need to start small, learn and practice getting the details right, and sell basic things before you can start doing custom furniture. And even if you get to that point, you need to make a solid name for yourself before you'll earn enough to actually be a living instead of a side hustle.

>>2974678
that's what i was thinking too, honestly
appreciate the answer anon

>>2974682
Something to keep in mind is that the biggest hands-on time sink is going to be sanding, surface prep, and finishing work.

The biggest time sink in a personal business is stuff that has nothing to do with your profession.

Run your side hustle smooth first. A web of problems will come up if you get overextended. The woodworking side should be completely mastered first.

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>>2974659
the bar really isn't that high, go all in

>>2974677
>planning to do some trial projects and learn first, a few months of just grinding basically
You sound delusional, unless you live in some american tier shithole where craftsmen all died out
Literally any 18yo kid with one year of actual training will do a better job than you

>>2974780
>Literally any 18yo kid with one year of actual training will do a better job than you
why?

>>2974780
Will they? Most of them have their brains friend with phones etc and the ones that don't have better prospects anyway being so young etc

>>2974382
Is 1 stronger than other two

>>2974677
You could join a carpentry crew for a while

>>2974801
i was also thinking about that, however most "carpenters" around here just make particle board cabinets. thanks anon.

>>2974802
there must be people who do roofs and timber framing

>>2974808
there are
i actually had a dude that made oak furniture near me, and reached out about internship some time ago but never got a reply sadly

>>2974477
1 will cup with the grain pattern
2 *may* twist
3 is going to expand/contract with the grain but generally is the most stable

this is all home depot slop though so expect warp in any orientation since they're still wet
>>2974800
it's definitely heavier

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what's your go-to finish? been fuckin with picrel now for a while. it's nice but minimum 48 hour process for finishing

>>2974884
If you want faster with similar results there's two options: Catalyzed hardwax like Rubio Monocoat or Osmo 2K, or a UV-cured finish like Clean Armor. The latter's a really good option if you want a no-VOC finish that's set instantly after you run a special light over it, but there's a $300+ upfront investment in the equipment.

Otherwise, depends on the application. I used polyurethane on a coffee cart because there's a lot of liquid spill risk going on with that, while Shellac is my go-to for anything that's not going to see a lot of handling or any food/water spills, like by bedside table.

>>2974907
i don't mind shellac, it's a bit finicky but you can't beat the price. not gonna spend $1000+ for uv and i don't like that rubio doesn't darken the grain like other hardwax oils but that's a personal preference. also i hate it just based on principal due to every woodworker having been sponsored by them. same for totalboat fuck those guys

>>2974908
>i don't like that rubio doesn't darken the grain like other hardwax oils
Well, the idea with the clear is that you want as little change to the color as possible, you can always add a little Transtint in or use one of the color variants.

>>2972976
You don't need a guide, just take it as an opportunity to work on technique.

>>2974881
It's more of an exercise in grain expansion. Without testing, I'd just assume sapwood has great deflection over humidity and temperature change. I see higher density growth rings in old growth when for the most part that is better than what's available now.

>>2974812
that's the thing though people will not talk to you unless you have actual skin in the game you know how they say you need experience to get experience
guess the only you can do at this point is to get started in any palatable capacity as you can and network as you go but more like colleague not as a student

I want to go full meme and build some I-joists from pine and ply to add a storage platform to my shed. Has anyone attempted this and is it as easy as it seems? I’d get an 18mm router bit, 18mm ply, 1x2”s and build a 2x6” equivalent. I only need 2 maybe 3

>>2975043
i just googled what these are and i'd honestly go with anything else, just by the looks of it

>>2975043
why not just go with 2x6's instead?

>>2974973
i think "old growth" is a bit of a meme. you can have a 100 yr old tree that grew fast and a 50 yr old tree that grew slow; show the end grains to some boomer and he'd relish in the 50 year old tree's "muh old growth." in reality trees are plants and they all grow different before they show up on home depot's shelves. "old growth is better than what's available now" is bullshit, there's always been variations in pine/fir because that's how nature works

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>>2972827
>>2972835
Fugg.
Seems like my miter saw vibrates too much and fucks its height setting.
Ahhhhhhhh
Fugg
Guess I’ll fill it with glue and hope for the best, since it’s ts mostly supposed to take downwards force.

>>2975126
Glue up and fill the voids with dust or little bits of shims. Scuff it with sand and keep rolling forward. You're fighting a few battles when trying to fine join construction lumber with a miter saw.

>>2975126
oh shit nigga the only thing you're supposed to have between a mitre joint is something that keeps the two corners together not something that tries to pry it apart

>>2975050
arent there clones and shit that are developed specifically so they grow fast

anons, is there any point in buying a budget cnc machine? one of those $1-2k range mini ones, just to cut some details in on some small projects

whats a good drill press for wood
i see metalworkers raising a racket over pillar size it's probably not an issue for wood right although occasionally a steel profile here and there will get drilled

>>2975147
> oh shit nigga the only thing you're supposed to have between a mitre joint is something that keeps the two corners together not something that tries to pry it apar
When you say it like that, it actually sounds like it’d make sense. Oh well.
It’s a table, so that pic is looking at it from the top, plus there’s a table top getting screwed on top, plus, the whole shitpine stuff is just the subframe, it’s all gonna get covered in beech, which is also gonna add stability, so it’s not like this miter will see much spreading force.

>>2975170
they're loud, require speeds and feeds, and need dust collection. something a laser can do instead?
>>2975171
i don't mind my 12" wen. to me the things to look for are hp and the table; you'll want something with miter slots for a fence/clamps. check for runout too but even on my chinked wen it's a non-issue

>>2975179
i don't think a laser can cut a groove

>>2975165
no clue, but the samples i posted were all home depot slop. it's easy to find tight rings in their 2x4 pile

>>2975180
>groove
why would you use a cnc to do what a table saw can do?

>>2975183
because a table saw can't cut a rounded groove

>>2975184
ok? so get an $80 bosch router and circle jig then

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Maybe you're just not good with a miter saw. Learn to sharpen your pencil first.

>>2975170
CNC is for any kind of deep cut carving and template cutting*. Especially if you want to cut ten of the same thing. It's also handy if you need something flattened.

>>2975180
Lasers are best for shallow cutting and burning in a design.

*Though you can cut and shape a template with a jigsaw or bandsaw, then sand it to final shape pretty easily too.

>>2975044
>>2975049
I like them aesthetically. I do statics for a living and think theyre a nice display of how forces are distributed.

>>2975050
Isnt old growth just a name for the slower growing varieties that were grown 100 years ago?

>>2975203
thanks anon. i'm wondering because when someone says "cnc machines" i imagine those big ones, and these small ones look like oversized 3d printers, so i was wondering if there's any point to them at all, for amateur purposes

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>>2975126
>>2975129
>>2975147
I guess for my first try at “proper” woodworking it’s not too bad, even if it might be a retard-joint.
But speaking of “proper”:
I can totally understand old school, handcrafted joinery, when you had neither the machines, nor glue or proper screws, but what makes glue better than screws? It’s a pain in the ass, messy and I can’t really get it into 90 degrees because every clamp I place fucks up the other angles.
Is it simply a matter of git-gud and the see the light or is it simply >muh tradition, screws are bad! ?

>>2975265
in vacuum, the main advantage of glue is that it's stronger, that's it. also when you glue things together, in general the glue "holds" the entire area, not just one "point" like a screw, and doesn't create a point of failure like a screw does
on the other hand screws are faster and easier to use

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>>2975265
i like the tape method for miter joints. also less glue makes the whole situation cleaner

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>have a chance to buy like a hundred 8x8cm (3x3), 1,5m long used timber for $2 a piece
i was thinking i could just make like 10 thick garden tables or some such and sell them, but maybe there's a better idea?
pic uhhhh unrelated

>>2975050
Old growth trends to grow slower, because they often had to grow in a mature forest full of shade from other old growth trees. This leads the tree to grow very straight upward to seek light, and grow slowly due to lack of light until it can reach high enough. It is no guarantee as you said, but it is a general trend.

>>2975322
What kind of wood? Some types hold up way better outdoors than others.

>>2975325
>two trees planted at the same time
>one grows faster than the other
>harvest
>boomer bleats about muh old growth
you can find this shit in the offcut pile at home depot

>>2975322
89¢/bdft is really not that much of a discount if it's softwood, i'd offer $1 per board

>>2975265
do better

>>2975178
the only reason to do it this way would be for the looks but now you're saying you intend to cover it up
should've just tenoned the aprons into the legs like a normal person

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>>2974933
>you don't need a guide
For general sharpening, I agree, but for setting a correct angle (which it doesn't have right now), to have a straight cutting edge on which I can sharpen on, it seems like this is quite hard to do by hand.
But even with that slightly off angle, damn, this is a fantastic tool!
Why did no one tell me that a chisel is a multifunctional precision tool?! I only knew it as a blunt-ish, brute force thing, to hammer on. But now, I can use it instead of a sander for many small things and be quicker and dust free!
I guess I should try to learn planing next.
I've seen two boxes of planers at some local auction, how much money should I bid on those, to figure out if a) they still work/can be sharpened and b) if I can learn how to use them?

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I want to do some small projects with my dad like making small tables, small boxes, a radiator cover, a laptop stand, drawer dividers and a holder for sharpening stones. Any other stuff I could put on this list? We're both not good at this stuff so nothing too complicated.

Also I'm thinking of buying some of these fuckers on chinkexpress. You can't have enough clamps. Are these any good or should I stick to all-metal clamps like these >>2975265?

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>>2975500
Just get DeWalt or Irwin for squeeze clamps. Random-ass fly-by-night chinesium clamps will probably fail at the worst time.

If you want something cheap Harbor Freight bar clamps are handy, especially if you want to make panels.

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>>2974659 here
if i'm shitting up the thread then say it

anons, what would you consider to be essential basics in woodworking tools? let's say focusing on easy projects (like cutting boards, yeah) and basic cabinetry and such. i already have a small mitre saw, oscillating sander, drill driver, power drill, chainsaw, angle grinder, some chisels and other basic stuff, a really shitty hand plane, a few clamps, a shitty wood saw and a few heavily used files
i was thinking i should get a router, a used small planer, maybe a jigsaw or a hand saw, and maybe a table saw if i can get a nice one used, and then at least a few proper hand tools
i also have a bunch of stuff unrelated to woodworking, like a mma welder and such
picture just to get your attention

>>2975531
not necessarily in this order but:
planer
jointer (or sled for planer)
some sort of joinery solution (pocket holes, biscuit, dowel, domino)
dust collection
table saw
track saw
jig saw
drill press (that milescraft portable one works pretti good)

>>2975531
also if you're doing cabinets start looking for deals on hinges, drawer slides, and handles. shit's expensive

>>2975531
I'd go in this order:
Dust Collection - Have at least a shop vac, you can upgrade to better collectors and extractors later.
Table Saw - This is going to be your most multi-function tool that gives you a broad array of ripping and cross-cutting capability, especially once you start building jigs for it.
Router - Second most multi-function, especially if you can fit in a router table of some kind. If you want to do end-grain cutting boards you need a router flattening jig or a drum sander because trying to use a planer will cause nasty tearout.
Planer - With this and a table saw you can turn rough lumber into useable surfaced boards that are precisely as thick as you want. A sled with shims can be used to flatten out the first face of a rough board.

Nice to haves:
Band Saw: Another multipurpose tool, can be used to resaw thick lumber into thinner boards and do cuts that aren't safe to do on a table saw.
Drill Press: When you need to drill straight, period. Portable presses are cheap and handy, I've got the Milescraft.
Jointer: Don't buy a benchtop. Buy this once you're actually deep in the process and need to save time milling raw lumber.
Track Saw: makes breaking down sheet goods and trimming large panels really easy.

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>>2975539
this with 2 buckets pairs great with a shop vac for dust collection

>>2975534
>>2975535
>>2975539
thanks anons, truly appreciate the answers

>>2975531
You're probably not ready for cabinets. They're running large cnc, hinge boring machine, panel saws, edge banders, dovetailer, planers. If you're already building raised panel doors and shakers, drawers, whatever then I take it back. There's money to be made with the addition of a paint booth.

In a perfect world, you can keep your foot down on the scope of work you have to complete. I don't like to see a business expand with poor ROI. Rev a Shelf is tagging people for 500 per accessory, but I often struggle to convince people of 200 a box and 300 for a countertop. That's as good as it gets senpai.

>>2975531
why do people make these stupid fucking tables

>>2975593
A reason I could see is that they have limited garage space, so a workstation table they can roll out, do a project on, then tuck back in a corner fits that.

Or you know, because they felt like doing it and your opinion doesn't really matter on it.

>>2975597
looks stupid like a slop production station

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this is what that sloppa wishes it was

>>2975620
combo machines never do anything well, hence why you can buy shopsmiths for dirt cheap

>>2975624
that one was literally built for jackasses
these are for actual workshops

>>2975626
2500 euros for one is jackass money not workshop money sweaty

>>2975639
wut they cost 3 to 5 times that at least even so it's more about what the build prioritizes

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>>2975659
>3 to 5 times that
heh i was looking at their discovery wagon. the one you posted is 5600 euros (2x). zero reviews anywhere and a dedicated page on their site saying their "competitors created fake accounts" https://www.damatomacchine.com/en/opinions. like i said: does nothing well, no different than a shopsmith. at some point you almost feel bad for these companies and their customers but they do have some dedicated machines so there's that at least

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>wanted to move some shelves i made some years ago from my shed to a storage room
>it's cramped to fuck and the shelves are built for apocalypse, 4 levels of 2,5m x 65cm, 2cm thick osb board with supports.
>start disassembling it, top 2 levels come out easily enough
>get to the third one and remove all the screws on the angle brackets and try to move it
>for some reason it goes up where i grab it, but the back doesn't want to move, as if it something was still holding it
>feel my hand on the posts at the back
>there's some fucking wood screw head in each one, holding each shelf to the post
>i suddenly remember putting screws over there because i'm paranoid and thought the angle brackets won't hold them, and i remember that for some fuckign reason i then rotated the shelves in such a way that the screws are now at the back, and not at the front where they're easily accessible
>can't move the shelves forward because i had to take shit off them and it's all cluttered to fuck
>spend the next hour bent over the shelves, using a ratchet to get them out one by one
>each one is like 15cm long and holds super firm
>while doing this a piece of wood sitting nearby gets pushed around by me trying to get these screws out, and hits me in the head TWICE
learn from my mistakes, please. don't be like me.
thanks for reading my blog

>>2975742
i wear my earpro all the time, it's saved me from so many bonks when i'm doing shit like that

>>2975731
Yeah that was a random pic from Google but don't think a 500kg chunk of metal with fixed core mechanism is the same thing as wannabe transformer with hollow pipes

>>2975780
shirley you must have researched this heavier shopsmith piece of shit before just belting it out as some sort of alternative to building your own, cheaper, more functional workbench

>>2975659
and what's this build prioritize? a single employee business? sitting on ass and waiting for the guy on the saw to be done so you can mill up your lumber?

>>2975808
it's less noise more work unlike your posts and portable heap of junk

>>2975813
and what do you have currently?

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>>2975043
Went along with it, turns out to be pretty easy. Snug fit with 18mm router bit. Made one spare for testing purposes. Any tips to accurately measure beam deflection?

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>>2976132
Also made some end blocks to fill the ends. Will be glued and screwed on later. So far id say I joists are not really worth the hype, in this size theyre only marginally cheaper and lighter for same strength as a solid beam

>>2976132
>>2976135
>I like them aesthetically. I do statics for a living and think theyre a nice display of how forces are distributed.
oh (you)

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>>2975531
What is this little jesus handle for?
> man, i throw down the chopsaw handle with so much force it pushes me back 6 feet unless I’m grabbin my safety handle

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>>2976174
>didn't build in a concealed weapon to use against the miter saw
ngmi homo

>>2976174
>Grab handle for rolling it around

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>>2976135
Tested one with a 200lbs midpoint load and no problems at all, deflection way under L/360 so put them in.

>>2976174
its for extra leverage when hes mitering angles and plowing yer heffer

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pretty happy with these bookends and they're super simple to make. walnut crystals are my new go-to dye

is there anything in efficient carpenter about spiral staircases

>>2976526
good job anon. still think this is retarded as fuck and you could've just used 2x6s or some shit, but if you're happy, you're happy

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How difficult would it be to build a range hood like this for a novice? I feel like it’d be pretty difficult to get it to exactly symmetrical and get my cuts to line up, especially that middle section.

>>2976778
personally i'd do the compound miters on my miter saw then biscuits and glue to make larger panels. depends on your setup though, i would imagine if your table saw is big enough you could make something akin to a tapering jig and do larger pieces

>>2976778
Thin veneer panels and long miters aren't the easiest. If you're a methodical person, you might have some luck.

>>2976526
So, you need to use a “non creeping” glue with these things. In addition, it needs to be waterproof.
I think real I joists use resorcinol black glue like the kind that binds exterior grade plywood. Which isn’t your plywood btw.
So, several issues there.

I bought a saw stop but it cant tell the difference between hotdog and wood. Everytime I try to cut something it just shuts off

>>2976798
Polyurethane is considered a waterproof non-creeping glue. I make things unnecessarily complex for fun but I’m not a complete retard

>>2976916
Call customer support.

Or maybe stop trying to feed wet pressure-treated shit into it.

>>2976954
lmao does it really shit itself if you try to cut wood with too much moisture? my $200 skil is better than that wtf the chad skil vs the virgin sawstop

>>2976778
So is this passive or powered

>>2976959
It works by pulsing a static charge into the blade. If it detects the charge drop, which can happen into skin, a hotdog, foil, a nail, or just too wet construction lumber you shouldn't be using for fine woodworking anyways, it instantly fires the explosive charge in the cartridge.

If you really need to the instruction book tells you how to set it to override mode for the next power-on.

>>2976778
Build a frame and drywall instead if you plan on painting

>>2976968
>construction lumber you shouldn't be using for fine woodworking anyways
nice qualifying cope, i'll sleep soundly knowing sawslop retards can't even rip a 2x4 without spending an extra $120 for a new cuck cartridge

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>>2976916
ahahahahaha hey sawcuck did you check your cuck box in bypass mode for a red light???

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>>2977014
What in the Aliens vs Predators am i looking at ?

>>2977018
Yeah sorry was just playing around showcasing my elbow flexibility, had to hold phone with toes so that's why image is slanted
Also it's actually a table slab, I guess some kind of filling is available, but I'm afraid of screwing up the process.

I have a small garage and no room for a real shop. Should I get a track saw or a foldable table saw?

MFT table might be a good solution

>>2976998
>Blames the tool for not knowing how to use it

>>2977048
A jobsite saw will be able to do a lot more stuff, especially if you build some jigs for it like a crosscut sled. Track saws are really nice, but a bit more specialized.

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how does this work doesn't it need water or oil
do they just let it drop on the floor

>>2977068
You only really need a couple drops of oil, not soak it.

>>2977068
do people really sharpen shit every day all day, so much that they need to put their sharpening stones in a quickdraw slot?

>>2977069
so should i dry out my water stone and start putting oil on it (wd40) it said it can be used with either oil or water
>>2977072
generally you should at the start of the day

>>2977073
Water stones need to be soaked, oil stones/diamond stones just need a small amount of oil.

>>2977075
i think i got the silicon carbide one that's low grit and for axes and chefs

>>2977072
Only reddit autists. I still use the stock 40 tooth blade that came with my circular saw from 5 years ago on literally every task and it all comes out fine.

>>2977089
cause its the motor that bears the weight
you would feel it very quickly with hand tools

>>2977089
"It's fine" and "could have better results" often sit in the same couch. You can leave the basic blade that comes in your table saw and it works fine with a bit of extra cleanup, or you can get rip and crosscut blades and get smoother, cleaner cuts.

>>2977092
*unless your wood is deemed "not for fine woodworking" then you have to call sawcuck support for permission

>>2977096
Why did you pay hundreds extra for a Sawstop if you're only cutting super wet pressure-treated construction lumber?

>>2977118
i didn't. i paid $269 for my skil that cuts anything, including the home depot slop staples such as fir, cedar, and even pressure treated. you're a retard defending a retarded company. we are not the same

>>2977121
No, you're an obsessed retard.

>>2976916
>>2976968
Some blog people and friends too got it to trigger with pine at like 15-18%, sometimes the kiln dried pine from HD has more moisture than that. A real problem is used exterior wood (like siding or stakes) because it has a ton of salts on the surface which make it conductive on the outside even when it measures very low moisture

>>2976999
There’s a question on why moisture content may trigger it on that same page and they say “it cant be answered”. It’s easy to test and make a reference table for common woods and even show the variability, they probably do that but don’t want to publish it. I’m all for safety measures but their tactics are pretty shit

>>2977048
Table saw does more stuff but doesn’t do some stuff that a track saw does so it really depends on what you want to do. Also depends a lot on if you plan to use a mitre saw or not.

I use mitre saw+track saw and it’s pretty good. It won’t do some things like cutting slots, rebates or wide notches like a table saw would and it’s slower for long cuts, but a small table saw doesn’t cut big sheets or long beams as easily. Mitre+Tracksaw+Router is more functional vs footprint I would say

>>2977137
I’ve been watching some of the japanese guys jskkoubou twcdesign and yasuhirotv and I’m convinced you don’t need a table saw at all let alone a scamstop saw. You can probably do everything with a skilsaw. I’ve been using mine more and more hardly ever trotting out the tablesaw.

>>2977125
obsessed with my skil, yeah. upgraded to the tso fence, got some nice blades, all in i'm under $400. that's 2 sawslop cartridg--er i mean 2 attempts for you to cut regular wood
>>2977135
almost as if publishing that info would result in less cartridges being sold or sales altogether. fucken pottery for a company that "cares so much about woodworkers" they tried to mandate their marked up slop on everyone

>>2977142
if you run your skilsaw upside down that's on (you)

>>2977048
I'm in the same boat as you, starting out woodworking last year. I have a palm router I use for face jointing rough lumber, with a sled I built with steel rails. It tucks vertically on a corner nicely. I use saw horses with a plywood tabletop for most of my work. And I have a jigsaw that I regret buying. I'm terrified of the the tablesaw and jointer, and I'm looking to buy the Festool HKC-55, which can use a crosscut guide rail for mitre cuts, has a kickback stop, and can use normal guide rails too. And eventually i'll save up for a 13 inch helical head planer.

>>2977143
Good for you? I mean, nobody here is defending Sawstop's business practices, but you're getting really butthurt over the fact that a saw that works fine for its intended end users who are willing to pay a premium to turn a potential ER trip into a bandaid doesn't work well with lumber meant to be rough cut and left outside for decades..

>>2977147
just don't do anything obviously stupid and you'll be fine. biggest thing for table saw kickback aside from stance and pushsticks is blade and fence alignment. love me wen 8" spiral jointer, love me wen 13" spiral planer, simple as. i wouldn't waste money on festool if you're new to woodworking (or really at all)

>>2977149
not butthurt at all, actually the opposite. sawstop promotes people being lazy, has a shitty fence, shitty dust collection, is an evil company, and apparently now i've learned it can't even cut wood lmao. that you keep trying to pass this off as "oh well no one cuts wood like that anyways" is quite comical. time to throw another hotdog at it to make you feel better?

>>2977151
>i've learned it can't even cut wood lmao
Very specific types of wood that basically nobody buying one works with.

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>>2977152
DAHHHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHA
>very specific types
>no one works with
jfc you lefties really are sheep holy cope

>>2977152
hey what say you to sawstop's paying off of biden's cpsc to try and mandate their bs and when companies and people argued they would have a monopoly the ss said they'd share their patents but then renegged and ultimately got thrown out by big trump cock?

>>2977072
You only need one stone and a bench worth its money has a junk drawer

>>2977170
okay have fun on r/woodworking with the select species sawslop allows. don't forget to save a hotdog to dialate with every hour

>>2977186
>Obsessed with sex and gender identity

>>2977186
>with the select species sawslop allows

>Only has an issue with super wet construction shit most people spending Sawstop money won't touch
>Can be set to cut it anyways
>Retard just doesn't want to admit he's stupid

I have to cut some 6” baseboards at 45 degrees, so standing up, but my miter saw only goes like 80% through and it’s almost impossible to flip over and try and match cuts. What’s the best way to accomplish this?

>>2977195
Is it a compound or single-bevel saw?

If it's a single, and that's as deep as it cuts, you might just need to use a hand saw to finish.

>>2977197
It’s compound. I guess I could lay it flat and angle the blade. Never really tried or knew it was capable of that. I may be retarded

>>2977195
Flip it over then inch your way back to the cut if it's hard to line them up.

>>2977204
Something to check though is if the corner you're putting it into is actually 90.

are negative C temps bad for wood? i don't have a heated garage/shed to work on stuff, and i'd probably have to keep raw wood outside under a shelter, which means it'll sit there during winter too. i'd assume it isn't bad per se, since you know, wood is stored in unheated warehouses or just sits outside under the elements, but i thought i'd ask

also, people keep saying "buy seasoned, dry wood, 8-12%" which i get, but then i drive next to a wood shop in my area and they literally keep untreated-looking construction lumber outside so rain just falls on it.

>>2977150
I don't think i can get over the fear of a table saw. but I think with a tracksaw I can do everything albeit slower than table saw. I was leaning towards getting a kreg track saw but it's not much cheaper than something like a ts55 festool.

>>2977234
>I don't think i can get over the fear of a table saw.
hey let me give you a story
one time i was cutting some logs on my sawbench and it was pretty big ones, so i just cut it a bit, then rotated it, then cut itanother bit and so on. it's one of those old style wood cutting saws that're like 100 years old and have a motor that could spin the moon around
and one of those logs was rotten inside, and the saw just ripped a shitload of that material out and flung it at me, because it didn't care. one of those pieces punctured my work pants and then my leg, making a 0,5cm hole in it, which then proceeded to gush blood with alarming efficiency. i even have a pic with my leg covered in blood streaks. it was a fucking rush let me tell you. i'm also like the third victim of this saw.
so i guess my point is, if you see one of those old style saw benches, just let someone else use them.

in all seriousness though, i used it a number of times since then. the trick is to treat every tool like this as if it wants to kill you. if you approach tools with this mindset, it's actually much more difficult to get hurt.

I'm scared too, but with Sawstop™ I don't have to be

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>>2977238
> one of those old style wood cutting saws that're like 100 years old and have a motor that could spin the moon around
Like this one?
Some madman even paid me like 50 Üros for it, I really hope he just boughted it for the motor. Put that money towards a lifetime supply of sawstop cartridges!
(Just kidding. But seriously, how does sawstop trigger that one autist so hard? People buying these probably either have the money and don’t care, or are actual professionals who did the math and won’t just randomly use some piss-wet shit-wood that’ll trigger it)

>>2977267
yeah, pretty similar, just with a metal top. same cable even, 400V iirc.

>>2977144
> skilsaw upside down
no, I’m not going to do that either. That’s basically making another tablesaw except somehow even sketchier

>>2977267
My diy table saw looks like this it's low power tho

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>>2977234
what's your fear? kickback? or sawing your hand off? desu your palm router is likely more dangerous. just don't wear long sleeves or anything on your hands, make sure your blade and fence are aligned with your miter slots, and for 99% of the cuts you can use your guard that'll protect you from the blade as well as stop kickback with the riving knife and pawls. never stand behind the blade always to the left of it, never use the fence for a crosscut, always use a pushstick or some other method to push your piece past the blade. and don't do what woodworkers on youtube do and shoot the piece onto your outfeed table after you've cut it.
>>2977259
or buy sawslop and become a tranny i don't care, just know what you're getting in to

>>2977233
the wood they're keeping outside is probably air dried instead of kiln dried. great for things with character like walnut because it looks more "live" but not sure if it's any better for construction lumber aside from maybe being drier since it sits out there for a year or so. i never had problems in minnesota -40°F, obviously don't cut it at that temp just make sure you sticker it so air can flow over both sides

>>2977333
> sawslop
I think bosch makes one too, like a contractor saw that uses gas cylinders (?) to stop the blade.
Also, it doesn’t hurt the blade and cost $500 for each misfire

>>2977352
ss sued bosch and they removed it from the US market then ss decided it was okay but as far as i know it's either not sold at all anymore or only in europe

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I want to buy stuff for the endorphine hit and I saw some woodworking Youtube videos so this is now my general.

>>2977368
This is a no nig zone

>>2977383
let's see what happens when he gets a saw first before we just go and put the sign up. with any luck the skin color issue + blade may solve the problem with minimal intervention

>>2970340
I thought people were just being weeaboos, but the moment I picked one of these up, my panel saws became worthless
It can do 90% of the cuts needed, and quickly due to small kerf width. When it gets dull in about 6 months you just replace the blade. It's overpowered really so long as you don't gorilla grip the thing and bend the blade

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You see that Alien sticker? I sent that sticker. I know ur mad jelly, you dont have to try to hide it anon.

>>2977516
Isnthst the guy that put up the pentagram because lool it's Halloween and started unironically worshipping it

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I live in a small apartment, so I’m glad you can now get small routers and they’re also nearly silent,