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I am just trying to make a square with these 2x4's. I want them to be perfectly flat on the surface when I screw them together with no wobble. Every time I screw them together, the clamping force of the screws makes the boards go out of alignment and then the whole thing wobbles on the countertop. I have tried clamping the two sides together, and I get a good fit on all the boards and they seem perfect, but still when I screw them in, they change positions. I am also making sure my holes are 90 degrees to the plane using a drill guide. Idk what else to do and it's driving me nuts
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you could glue them together and after its set drive the screw
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>>2969839
Drill pilot holes. Are you sure your countertop is flat?
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>>2969839
if your cuts are not totally straight it will give it some wobble, also you are using shitty pine with a wide grain, so your screws will move slightly and slide into the softer springwood rings without pilot holes.
best thing is to clamp everything into position then drill & screw, you have clamps, shame they look like shit ones. that might be your problem.
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>>2969858
I've drilled pilot holes and clearance holes. the countertop is flat, or at least I can get the frame to be flat on it. It just gets out of alignment when I fully tighten the screws.

>>2969859
>clamp everything into position then drill & screw, you have clamps, shame they look like shit ones. that might be your problem.
yeah I just tested them and the clamps don't hold tightly at all. I will replace them with better ones and see if that does the trick
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>>2969856
This. Just use glue, and no clamps while laying on a flat surface. After glue has dried, drill pilot holes and screw it down.
I use this technique all the time.
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>>2969839
Pre drill holes
Have better grip strength than the screw
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>>2969839
Pine will never behave that way, the wood itself is warped, the cuts aren't ever straight unless you have a really good saw that you've squared up yourself, the density isn't even so when the screw digs in it will shift. Just give it feet and call it a day.
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>>2969861
Great you can delete this shit thread now that you realized your problem is your Chinese grade clamos. Please don't ever post another
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>>2969839
Joint one face and one side
Then run the opposite face through your thicknesser
Then trim the other roundover with your table saw.
Then you'll have 4 flat straight boards.
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>>2969839
>2x4's
>perfectly flat
Pick one (1)
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>>2969839
That's a recatangle.
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>>2969888
your country better have borders as stong as you gate keep clamp or youre gonna look silly.



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