having trouble with electrical, outlet has enough charge to shock when i touch it but not enough to power a light bulb, I tried the light bulb in other sockets and it is fine. it is a gfci outlet at the end of the run. i get shocked but there is not enough umph to light a light bulb. can someone go over basic sparky trouble shooting techniques with me.
>breaker off follow the line.line goes behind some tile and is in the crawl space in the attic.>are there any nicks in the line possible at wire harness, house is wood construction will check rubbing against light housing possible damage there>is the whole circuit dead or just an outlettwo outlets are dead on separate circuits one install as part f a remodel one part of the original construction, mixing aluminum and copper wiring>did you wire two circuits together on the same bardoubt, i would be incredible lucky to not have blown my face off with 240 had it been different bars.>is the line long enough to create a small capacitor and that charge is just elevation changethis is not a skyscraper, this is residential with the line running less than 100ft>have you found all the outlets that are deadi will start looking
>>2974593>two outlets are dead on separate circuitstwo outlets on same circuit, remodel sparky reused old aluminum line.
>>2974591replace the outlet, or at least bypass it by nigger rigging a jumper from the light bulb directly to the wires in the wall. if the bulb still won't light up then the wires in the wall have a high resistance somewhere, which you'll have to trace upstream.
>>2974591Bad neutral connection. Hot is OK because you still get shocked (not a really good diagnostic). But no return path to light a bulb.
>>2974591pic related is the sign of a 3rd world coun...>aluminium wire...i mean 4th world country.
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>>2974591Buy a multimeter you poorfag.1. Test ground continuity.Run an extension cord from a known good outlet and make sure that a) there is no voltage between the two grounds, and b) there is continuity (low resistance) between the two grounds2. Test live wireMeasure voltage between the live wire and ground:Make sure live wire has the appropriate voltage for your country when there is no load.Make sure live wire still has the same voltage when the light bulb is connected.3. Test neutral wireMeasure voltage between the neutral wire and the ground:Make sure neutral wire has close to zero volts, when there is no load.Make sure neutral wire still has close to zero volts when the light bulb is connected.4. Test live and neutral wireMeasure voltage between the live and the neutral wire and make sure it's the same voltage you got between the live and the ground wire.
resolved, circuit was controlled by main breaker box i thought it was hooked to the sub panel, breaker tripped during demo and nobody noticed. I can not explain the weird shock, but i am going to assume it is not a problem.
>>2975261> I can not explain the weird shock, but i am going to assume it is not a problem.Might have been some asshat wiring live from two different breakers to your circuit. Encountered that when I bought my house.>turn off circuit I want to work on>measure circuit: still live>wft.jpg>open junction box in hall>two live wires hooked up to two different breakers connected to my circuit's live wire.Sometimes, people who worked on your electrical wiring before you were drunk, high, tired or distracted. Act accordingly and measure early, measure late, measure often. It definitely bears investigating further because you probably want your circuits to be off instead of still live when you flip the breaker.
>>2975024the deranged cope of the 4th worlder
>>2975446>cope
>>2975476cope of the goyest of all goys, yeah>aluminium wires and wirenuts in his cardboard shed of a housegtfo you clowns, lmao
>>2974591Everytime I start thinking tradies are gate keeping cunts,>outlet has enough charge to shock when i touch itI'm reminded why we need gates.
>>2974591bro those wire caps go bad with time you are suppose to replace all of them every 5 years
>>2974591>>2975024Just use Wagos.
>>2974591Why do people use these? How do you know that the resistance is perfect across all strands of wire when twisted?
>>2976217I'll put my penis into your wago.
>>2976218Because that is not needed. It makes good enough contact with the wire to transfer its rated current without overheating. That is all you need. It doesn't need to be perfect. That said, wire nuts are cheaper and just as fast to use if you know what you are doing.
>>2976218>How do you know that the resistance is perfectIs you're house a big microchip or something?Resistance in home wiring just needs to be good enough. Theres acceptable tolerance for resistance and even voltage.
>>2974642>Bad neutral connection.This
>>2976450a housefire wrote this bullshit
>>2976450You know because a proper wire nut connection is twisted together before putting the nut on. The wire nut itself just provides a protective cover and some extra insurance that some gorilla doesn't tug the wires apart in the future.
>>2977689>proper wire nut connection is twisted together before putting the nut onthats bullshit
>>2974642> Bad neutral connection.This.Neutral is tied to earth, and you're weakly tied to earth by capacitative coupling. This is why those testers (the ones which you poke into the live hole and touch the top) work.But without an actual neutral connection, the current is in milliamps, maybe even microamps.
>>2977692You dont do this for a living do you
>>2975304I get the feel turning off breakers is a memeI reworked almost all my house wiring myself, and got zapped dozens of times. It's just a tingly feelSure I get being careful especially when you are in a narrow space and wear rubber shoes, but it's not industrial voltageMaybe it's cause I'm in europe and we got lower amperage?
>>2977692This guy thinks back stabbing an outlet is acceptable.
>>2977721I just dont enjoy getting zapped, It hurts. And one time on a job i opened a neutral bundle with the power on and a light in the stairwell that was on caught fire and the one at the top of the stairs burnt out. Backfeeding can be too intense sometimes
