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>>2976510
I’ll just become a robot tech

>>2976510
Good thing I'm not a gymnast

I'd love to see AI jack off in the bathroom to tranny porn then go in the warehouse and take a nap between a stack of boxes out of view of the cameras

>>2976510
Anyone who says that vastly underestimates just how badly humans like to fuck shit up instead of paying a qualified professional or doing actual research before attempting something

>>2976550
/thread

NEET chads are immune to this

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AI Robotics Engineering Chad here:

Anyone with a simple task job is fucked. Burgers, food in general... is done for. Totally automated using two robot arms, not even a whole humanoid. Same for laundry (famous demo task for new AI models). Same for Amazon warehouses too. They have a way to eliminate jobs en mass now, using robotic arms to fulfill orders, picked and delivered from a grid of bins.

For more difficult stuff, like working on cars, machines, operating them, etc. That is much more difficult. Those jobs are safe for a long time. The robots are very unsafe desu. If they go out of distribution (see something they haven't seen) they just glitch out like crazy. Could probably kill someone. I wouldn't want to work anywhere near one.

The short term, it just comes down to what companies can convince consoomers is "cool", which is probably as simple as having Cardi B do a twerk on a robot and making a song about it with the Chik-Fil-A CoolBot™

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>>2976583
I install this shit for a living, how long before Bot#25815 takes my job?

>>2976583
How do you learn to build robots? I need a guide for the dumbest niggers of the world

>>2976583
Except burger flipping and that class of jobs don't even need "AI" at all, they're just simple jobs that can be done by noon humanoid purpose built robots. Humanoid robots are just investor fishing bullshit, how many do you see in your normal life? Zero of course. But even as we speak purpose built robots are working tirelessly in dark factories to manufacture things.

And as for the trade, they're going to be safe for a very, very long time. Think about it, where are they going to get the POV training data for day...a plumber or a mechanic or an electrician? Are they going to plop on body cameras on tradesmen, record their limb movements, and ask them to continually explain their thinking process out loud, and then feed that all into a model as the training data. Ohh and by the way, robot fingers don't have the same dexterity or touch feedback like human fingers do. Any idea how we're going to incorporate that into the training?
Lmao good luck

>>2976626
5 years ago robots struggled to stand upright now they do backflips, it's just a matter of time. Maybe a decade.

>>2976571
Based

>steals the copper wires
Sorry robro but you should have paid your union dues. Also the boss is now gonna have to pay us extra overtime because of that oil leak you caused.

God I wish I could buy a robot to do my job...

>>2976583
nobody's gonna pay all the $$$ for a robot when they can just hire some beaner for $10/hr.
plus the robot is a liability and if it gets damaged you're fucked. if paco gets damaged you fire him and hire jose.

>>2976673
2000 a month or whatever is more expensive than a robot

>>2976700
robot has way more upfront costs.
and it won't be cheap to buy a robot that can cook and assemble burgers. low tier work for humans but lots of engineering, precision, LLM computing needed for a machine to do it.

>>2976721
have you never watched the wagie assemble the componentized tube of goo slop that is a tacobell food product? its literally using metered scoops and caulk guns to dispense the filling onto a standardized edible wrapper. its within one expansion gradient of 2 axis pick and place machinery
i bet a 30k garden variety cobot could stand in for a dopehead loser human with an order of magnitude less waste with less than a week of setup. the problem is people are resistant to seeing a robot touch their food

>>2976510
my job involves ladders so yeah im safe

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>>2976725
>madtv pilled

>>2976725
Runs out of burgers, have to go in the back to get more burgers, find the stock, … no rbot can do that.
They would have automated that already.
Better yet, just pre-cook the burgers, and deliver them frozen in pre loaded magazines of 1000 that can automatically shot onto a heating conveyer and slapped together with the buns.

Makes the mcdownalls 4x bigger 4x cost, and thats if the burger clip doesn’t jam.

>>2976510
Does your trade job consist of doing flips and cartwheels?

>>2976583
This. Any job that requires even a modicum of complexity higher than performing simple is beyond any ai powered gadget for the sole reason that precision visual/spatial feedback in systems level motor coordination is dependent on sensor accuracy with an error rate of 0.12*10^-46

>>2976801
>Runs out of burgers, have to go in the back to get more burgers, find the stock, … no rbot can do that.

How ignant do you have to even be? Beyond the fact that, yes, there are absolutely robots that can do that now (in the human way you're thinking of, even), there's no reason to assume there's some specific ingredient that can't be put into some mechanically-convenient container and just loaded from a feeder that's filled once in the morning and that's it. You know...like they actually do in food factories.

Moreover, a single snafu doesn't mean the idea isn't workable. Even if there is some specific technological blind spot that's impractical for a robot to do, being able down your workforce from five people to just one (even if you have to pay them more), is an easy $100,000+ a year in savings. More than enough to account for the maintenance contract and potential losses from downtime.

Yes, that's exactly what tradesmen do all day. Backflips.
If the job is really simple and well defined without much chance of variation, you can automate it but good luck getting one of these to fix a leaky shower. My plumber tried three times and failed. In the end I had to do it myself. Shit was hard and required lateral thinking and planning ahead. Didn't require that many ninja backflips though.

>>2976510
Ok bot, paint this room please...

*does tripple backflip, throwing paint all over the room, landing on the cat*

No... not what ai was after, rry again please.

*cartwheels through window*

Sigh.

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>>2976850
>Thinking the webm is about the bot ability to do a backflip
Lmao, these brainlets are going to be the first ones to get their job taken.

>>2976510
Will there ever be a bot that can lay underneath a dashboard and try to reach screws with a ratchet to change blower motors or hvac actuators?
He can have my job while I just charge the customers.

>>2976847
>an easy $100,000+ a year in savings
lmao yeah let me spend six million dollars to open a robot operated restaurant and save money.

>>2976850
Flip dat there tho, and make dat doe

What it is that it do tho, that it do what it don't,

The main focus of robotics right now is plumbing since if it can do plumbing it can do most things do its considered the main challenge.

Would you pass a plumbing inspection if you told the inspector that it was done by a robot rather than a licensed tradesman?

>>2977331
I dont understand peoples failure to imagine a robot
1.unscrewing a pipe with a wrench
2.taking out the pipe
3.holding the pipe in place
4. Screwing the pipe back in
This shit aint rocket science its not easy but its not science fiction.

>Yeah dude let’s fire everyone and get robots!
> Why is our revenue down 99%?
>What do you mean “robots don’t buy anything?”

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>>2977336
How much plumbing have you done? Can the robot remove all the bullshit a customer has under their sink before tackling a leak? And then chisel out the remainder of a rusted to hell pipe that refuses to come out in one piece?

Or does the robot give up when pipes are >150% their torque specs? Maybe the robot goes full HAM on the pipe wrench and breaks a bunch of stuff behind the wall.

if a robot can easily remove a stuck on rusted bolt from a really tight space without having to dismantle or destroy the machine I will willingly bow to them and become their sex slave

>>2976583
>less general automatons will make more general automatons less valuable
Retard. Technology is always and only a force multiplier, increasing productivity results in more goods chasing the same number of humans.

Were that technology decreased real terms wages your propaganda would be superfluous

>>2976725
>the problem is people are resistant
No, the 'problem' is the wagie does more than just that one task

>>2976626
You started strong and then completely jumped off a bridge.
>where are they going to get the POV training data for day...a plumber or a mechanic or an electrician? Are they going to plop on body cameras on tradesmen, record their limb movements, and ask them to continually explain their thinking process out loud, and then feed that all into a model as the training data.
That's exactly what's happening, both in China and Silicone Valley. You think the average tradie even thinks about this shit? He just sees a paycheck by google and starts mumbling away. Heck it might even improve his work as he's forgetting less things.
>touch feedback
What the fuck is a torque screwdriver.

>>2976583
Same here.
>For more difficult stuff, like working on cars, machines, operating them, etc. That is much more difficult. Those jobs are safe for a long time.
Cars are largely solved outside the US. Everything is a conglomerate standard. Every screw is known and already digitalised. Why would a machine struggle with this? If it's really completely at it's wits end it can still start replacing random parts. You know, just like a "real" mechanic.
And fucking
>operating machines
Adidas and Nike both already admitted cloth fabrication could be fully automated tomorrow, humans are just cheaper. Wow, just the jobs i yearn saving.

t.EE who does this for a living. If you really want a safe job become a nurse or anything that'll require human contact.

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>>2976510
they'll never take manhattan
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RBYsQE4Pxb4

>>2977622
this, people always like to imagine the simplest case scenario but how often is it that easy? Basically never in my experience, a competent plumber has to use his head a lot more than most assume. In some cases the robot wouldn't even be able to understand what it needs to do since some clients are terrible at explaining the issue, and how would it even get to their home? An automated van? What if it can't easily find a parking spot? Could it predict what might be needed for the job before leaving the storehouse? What if the client is absent and the robot has to call the custodian and have him open the door? These are just a few of the tiny problems that can be far from trivial for a bot, a robot plumber is still a pipe dream for now to the point that imo a 18yo kid could learn the trade now and not risk being replaced before his retirement

>>2976510
that took like 40% of $20 000 power supply of that clanker. I can run for 8 hours on beer and cigarettes

If a human makes a mistake they have enough reasoning to fix it and move on. AI mistakes compound (doesn't have to be fault of AI, can be fault of supplier for example) until 5 days from first mistake whole project is unsalvageable. That or the dumb robot will have to ping supervisor for every tiny thing out of ordinary.

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>>2980811
You vastly underestimate the pace of progress in robotics. We are currently moving from RL to diffusion based methods that allow for the use of LLMs for long term hierarchical action planning, meaning that we will move from robots reacting to basic sensory inputs with reflexes style behaviour to robots able to analyse a situation and plan a sequence of actions. If you've ever worked in construction you know that 50% of the based retards in the field aren't able to plan more than 3 steps ahead. It's either they are super handy and can do everything or double digit IQs liability monkeys that you need to supervise all the time and you end up just asking them to deliver you coffee and fetch your tools / clean up after you. I'm willing to bet that the later ones are going to be replaced in the next 25 years
>t. PhD in robotics

>>2978233
>Beep-Boop Parking Van in open space.
>Beep-Boop, assemble tools.
>Beep-Boop, Walk to cuckcube Number 4
>Beep-Boop, unclog toilet, blocked with wanksock.
>Beep-Boop, van has been booted for illegal parking by Officer-Bot No 33.

>Officer-Bot 33 "Lol. Beep-Boop".

Such is life in modern robot utopia.

>>2980813
but what will we do with an army of retards that are useless in an economical sense? It might lead to social disruptions and political shifts we (or at least I) can't reliably predict right now. So it might get worse before it gets better.

>>2980840
The succubots and VR headsets will probably be part of the requirements to receive foodstamps and welfare. That's the darkest future.

.it's slightly brighter if they require you to join a sports ball game or do arts and crafts.

UBI depresses almost everyone that gets it.

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>>2980850
>succubots and VR headsets

>>2980850
idk I'm an engineer this is not my problem I'm here to allow the Jews to make more money, what they do with it is out of my scope of expertise

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>>2976510
lol, lmao even

>>2980813
>we replace retards in 25years
I hope that makes all these totally not terrible for everyone around them datacenters worth it.

anyone with a brain knows that 90% of all the jebs we do today could've been automated out by 90s let alone today. But that didnt happen for the same reasons as to why nuclear didnt kill ww2 oil giants and why trains and planes still "need" pilots and operators and why we are struggling right now to get back on the moon. So no sadly AI wont automate shit it just gives an excuse for companies to pocket more money you will be stuck with your dogshit pointless min wage jeb forever. Jebs have been a welfare program for a while now.
>>2976583
>Burgers, food in general... is done for.
factories that assemble 1000000 burgers per second existed since forever and its far more material, energy and space efficient than AI robits yet mcdonalds still employs people for PR and Welfare (PR) reasons.
Same for laundry, machine assembly, etc
>Same for Amazon warehouses too.
ok warehouse work actually benefits form computer vision.
>>2976631
these robots never need to have legs anon also not true robots could stand up right and walk completely fine back in the 00s
>>2976626
trades will survive not for these reasons anon but because trade jebs are profitable and needed for bezos and musks of the world since you have to advertise your skills on their platforms ie you have to pay them part of your profits you guys are in the same boat as taxi drivers and barbers.
DIY is actually a bigger threat to trade jobs coz lets be real while a novice wont do a good as a job as a master they dont care as long as their shit is fixed.
>>2977622
yes it can do all of that and then some we are not in the 80s anymore anon.
>>2980840
What do you need to do with them? Automation doesn't happen that fast anyway, even if we try. And if it does obviously politically some kind of welfare will be needed. But no social disruption after all its a good thing that jebs are being automated esp when its construction work. people who say we will automate this that in x years or something are just hyping

>>2980813
and yet wamo is almost all remote indian drivers

now that we have this
where's the giant mech community to make giant mechs a reality

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You thought they could get a robot to play tennis but now put s string in a needle lol. Pack it up tradies.

>>2983153
Robots will never be as cheap to hire as alcoholics. Especially because no 'tradie' company would ever own their robots. They would have to hire maintenance people, deal with down time, service, repairs, and parts. Many of these shitlord companies don't even own their equipment. It is all rentals or leases. So, they would do the same thing, which would not be cost effective for something you would need every single day. You can justify not owning a trencher or a skidsteer when you only use it occasionally. Even if it costs more in the long run it saves you on headaches. But have all your workers be rented from another company? Where you have to pay them all the same and they can tell you 'Sorry, I know you need 25 but we only have 14 available. Sorry." Sounds like a union hall with extra steps.

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>>2983169
>They would have to hire maintenance people, deal with down time, service, repairs, and parts.
This.
Although I'm sure someone will be along to explain how a robot will show up,clean the shit from the area, do all the diagnostic steps and then order the correct parts, while dealing with the pissed off customer, etc.
(image semi related. Good luck with that, robo-dude)

>>2983169
>You can justify not owning a trencher or a skidsteer when you only use it occasionally.
I can't even do that, and I'm a one man show doing my own projects...

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>>2983181

>>2983184
And that is why you are not a corporation my friend. You think like a person, not a machine designed to grind up people and the environment they live in and turn it into shareholder value.

>>2981252
The bottom leaf in the second panel.

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>>2976510
Carneys on suicide watch.

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>>2977628
>if a robot can easily remove a stuck on rusted bolt from a really tight space without having to dismantle or destroy the machine I will willingly bow to them and become their sex slave

>>2978233
Very true.
When I joined my company, one of the first things I set out to do was automate this monotonous and annoying task that we would periodically get throughout the week. It's literally just pulling some files from a web service, uploading them to an S3 bucket, and running a job through a third party web app. Automating that process was easy as hell, but there would always be the most seemingly inconsequential revisions that would need to be made to those files for it work, and it was never consistent. Way too much contextual information required to do it right.
>inb4 just use ai bro
This is an incredibly complex system that interfaces with ANCIENT mainframe code. AIs today don't have nearly as much training material on mainframes as it has webdev shit. AI is useless in this context, not even considering the crazy obscure business logic that drives all this code.

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>>2983504
>business logic
that's like military intelligence, innit

>>2976510
Literally why labor unions were invented retard, the ai robots of the 1900s were cheap immigrants wanting to do their jobs for 1/4 pay

>>2976510
i work in school IT.
the issue isn't the AI, its the retards accepting AI's word as law.
half the kids who come through with dead machines did so because they followed the ai chatbots suggestion to go to "x" website and install the newest drivers, with a link to a 5 year old linux BIOS.
so they brick their windows/mac install, while trying to google how to access their onedrive (all they had to do was log in).
until the AI can remove the step of "belive what a human tells it" as truth, and plug in a power cable to a screen, while ignoring the user blaming some iphone update from a week ago, i'm still in a job.
and until the AI can identify how much you can trust an end user based on the first thing they mention while recounting an error, ignore anyone who starts with "i just..." because they for sure KNOW they fucked up, but refuse to tell you WHAT they fucked up, in case that wasn't the issue, and they just admitted to using the laptop as a doorstop but actually it WAS a virus that snapped the machine in half.