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Printing bins and things edition.

>Your print failed? Go to:
www.simplify3d.com/support/print-quality-troubleshooting

>Calibrate your printer.
ellis3dp.com/Print-Tuning-Guide/
teachingtechyt.github.io/calibration.html

If that doesn't help you solve your problems, post:
>A picture of the failed part
>Printer make & model
>Filament type/brand
>Slicer & slicer settings

>What printer should I buy? [52/40/10 :detadpU tsaL]
Do your own research, but if you gotta ask; just buy whatever Bambu fits your budget.
DIY: reprap.org/wiki/
SLA: >>>/tg/3dpg

>Where can I get things to print?
www.thingiverse.com/
thangs.com/
printables.com/
grabcad.com/
www.yeggi.com/
cults3d.com/
www.stlfinder.com/
google.com/
T*legr*m

>What CAD software should I use?
Free to anyone: FreeCAD, Fusion360, Onshape, TinkerCAD,
Free to me: Autodesk Inventor, AutoCAD, Solidworks, Rhino, Solid Edge
Autistic /g/oobers: OpenSCAD, OpenJSCAD, CadQuery
Participation medal entries: PTC Creo, Solvespace
Mesh free-forming and modeling: Blender
Architects: Sketchup

>What slicer should I use?
For everyone: Cura, PrusaSlicer, BambuStudio for Bambu owners.
For enthusiasts: SuperSlicer, OrcaSlicer
For autists: Pleccer/SuperPleccer, Kiri:Moto, FullControl, IceSL

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>>2980188
Nice ball texture on your big blue dildo. What filament is it, PLA?
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i teach forklift training so thought id up my game
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>>2980120
Just learn to use your machine, nigger.
Bambufags like to claim no one needs to be a mechanic to drive a car when we're talking being able to drive on a highway. Meanwhile bambuniggers crash with 80mph in a 30mph area and start crying when being called the morons they are.
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>>2980196
>i teach forklift training
r8 my performance
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>0.2mm across a 330x330 bed.
fucking overdramatic chart. took me a second to notice the scale of it all.
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>>2980201
that's what acetylene canisters look like here, i hope they don't look like that over there.
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>>2980204
that's terrible, anon. 0.02mm would've been acceptable
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>>2980207
>0.02mm
Pathetic. Bed level deviation should always be lower than your smallest nozzle's diameter.
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>>2980201
the problem will fix itself sooner or later
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>>2980201
8/fun on company hours
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>>2980201
i cant be compelled to think about safety when im off the clock,
anything is legal as long as the cops/safety inspector isnt around
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>>2980204
Xmax3? I swapped the belts in mine and fucked cutting one too much and need to replace it again. Tearing that cunt down to the top head is annoying as fuck when a q2c is like $350. I love the volume of this fat old bitch though. 6k hours before it really shit the bed.
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>>2980252
ja.
Mine's all greasy on the inside from several thousands of hours printing abs.
At most, I've had to tension the belts and some toolhead mainboard fuckery, but that's it.
What's that exhaust mod and bushing wiper thing?
Were you having issues with the steppers running hot?
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>>2980255
Exhaust is an activated carbon+hepa filter that's stuck on the back with magnets. Easier to swap charcoal when it's spent since I keep it in bags. When it's sunny I put the spent stuff in the sun for a few days and can reuse it pretty well. I got a q2 so this is pretty much just for my eBay business now. It does what it should.

Bushing is filled with uhmw tape. Tried to print a few toolhead carriages from pps-gf but I'm fucking terrible with heat press inserts and I couldn't get a damn thing square. Don't feel like paying 50$ in shipping for a 20$ piece of plastic so I'm just rolling with what I got. I noticed one time during big maintenance last year that the inside of that toolhead carriage had worn itself away and as a result it was wobbly. I tried manual tensioners last year and ended up turbo fucking my whole system, tried to swap back and it's just not the same. Put some heatsinks on the steppers because it's easy and lowers them by like 2-5C. Not much but better than nothing. Wiring up a little fan is the way to go there.

Aussie friend offered to ship me a brand new gantry+belts but it's like 100$ to ship and a fuckton of work to break it down that far so I said fuck it. Gonna use up all the nozzles and hot ends I have and donate it or some shit.
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Democrats are trying to ban 3D printing
https://www.dont-ban-3dprinters.com/
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The filament dryer on prusa's website costs more than most of the printers. Since im not trying to print any superpolymers that melt at 400C can i just use a regular toaster oven or air fryer ect?
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>>2980265
Toasters and air fryers probably get way too hot. You should be looking at a food dehydrator. Can be found at thrift stores or you can get a pretty good one on amazon for like $100 that can fit probably 4 rolls at a time if you take the trays out. It looks pretty similar to your attached photo.
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>>2980266
My temp range was probably fucked up because i saw this oven claim 300C for up to 99 days.
I didnt think dehydrators would get warm enough but il look into them. Really anything is better than some of these people suggesting lab equipment that use 1kWh
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>>2980267
Some of these dehydrators go to like 175f or higher. At like 6-8 hours I dont think theres a single material that wont be at maybe 10% RH unless its just drenched. I was using one of those single spool creality dryers and it was a pain in the ass to set. The dehydrators have very easy to use buttons to set the time and temp. Easily do PETG and TPU, but havent had to mess with more exotic stuff so not sure.
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>>2980265
Apparently air-friers with accurate and precise enough temperature setting are quite good for filament drying. Their strong airflow probably makes for more uniform heat distribution than a food dehydrator, those have been demonstrated to have quite a temperature difference between the layers.

I think ideally you have something that can rotate the spool while it dries, but that implies a vertical design. It’s also quite important to be able to extract the humidity from the drier as it’s driven out of the filament. Most machines do this by venting some of their air, but the more you vent the more power you need to pump into the chamber to keep it warm. Alternatively, you could use a desiccant to absorb this moisture, so long as the elevated temperatures don’t drive the moisture out of the desiccant. From what I’ve seen, silica gel and activated alumina will not work for this, but molecular sieves probably will. Alternatively, you could add a counter-flow heat-exchanger between the inlet and exhaust, such that it gets fresh air and exhaust without losing heat. I do not know if any drying solutions that do this, for filament or otherwise.

Any venting filament drier is fundamentally limited by the ambient absolute humidity. Drying nylon in a cool dry inland environment? Easy shit, the high delta T makes the relative humidity within the heated ambient air very low. Drying silk PLA in a humid and hot coastal tropical hell-hole? Good luck, the low delta T makes for a minimal reduction in relative humidity once the fresh air is heated. Your situation probably falls somewhere in the middle, but I’d be aiming for no greater than 10-15% relative humidity for the heated air. You can calculate this from a psychrometric chart from your initial humidity, initial temperature, and final temperature. Or with roflb.ch.
As an example, 55% humidity at 25C is 12.6g/m^3, which at 60C makes for about 10% humidity, which would be good for PETG drying.
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>>2980265
Just get a sunlu whatever dryer. make sure it reaches the temps you need.
fucking around with dehydrators microwaves and air fryers is no longer worth it. a lot of dryers are good and cheap now.
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>>2980270
Nylons can need hotter, see:
https://youtu.be/y3rMgwOCAi8?si=68i3hZtPZZwdBoVA

I’m not sure how the relative humidity of the air interacts with the relative humidity of the filament. The nylon being tested was up at 10% moisture by weight after being fully soaked, so I guess there’s a factor of ten or so. That means with nylon you’re aiming for 2%RH to get the filament the desired 0.2% moisture by weight. At 70C that means an ambient humidity at 25C of 17%, which is pretty hard to hit without living in Arizona, or somewhere damn cold. Up at 95C it’s 44% at 25C, which is pretty doable if you pick a good day.

>>2980272
Eh, I wouldn’t recommend the filament driers without a fan for forced airflow, like the Sunlu S1/S2. At least not if they’re anything like the Esun eBOX Lite. DC powered ones like this also often lack heating power, and so only vent from a tiny hole so the temperature doesn’t drop, often resulting in internal condensation imyig inadequate ventilation. The AC-powered forced-air driers like the Creality Space Pi are good, at least up to 70C. Some still have small vents, but at least you can enlarge them and the heater will be able to handle it. Either way you can add some foam insulation to the outside of the drier to reduce the load the heater is under, and to improve the heating uniformity.
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>>2980273
>Nylons can need hotter
>insert elon's engineers worst mistake speech here
Nylons shouldn't be used in an FDM fashion to begin with. The endless fight against moisture, in it's printed form, and therefore deformation make it entirely worthless for any application that does not sit in a tightly controlled environment. Strength is just tensile anyway, it gets eaten by PET for layer adhesion, nevermind price.
And the funniest thing is we also have already solved this problem. If you really need nylon, just order an MJF piece, after your prototype, with none of the downsides.
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>>2980275
Ok yeah fair enough, it’s lack of creep-resistance is indicative of the hamfisted solution of cramming a flexible plastic full of fibres to stop it warping. I know you can keep paying more for materials like PAHT, PPA, and PPS, at least that last one might have some benefit if you’re needing chemical resistance, but the price of them doesn’t really lend itself to rapid prototyping. Test the fit in something easy to print and order it from a professional. Unless it’s le gun parts I guess.

I’d rather see printers move towards hotter heated chambers for the purpose of printing non-fibre reinforced plastics. Like nylon and PET, but also more obscure plastics. Maybe that should be the domain of a pellet extruder printer, so you can take advantage of virgin pellet prices. But the weight of your toolhead makes any sort of multi-material system pretty difficult, for supports or whatever. CNC felt tip marker for support interfaces, or maybe laser charring.

I think my personal desire to be able to print something like PPS isn’t rational. But man, they should make more engineering filaments with coextruded/core fibres. Significantly better layer adhesion and somewhat less issue with filament moisture.
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>>2980275
90C is good 'nuff for nylons, yeah?
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>>2980288
PPS becomes boring pretty fast once you get one of those meme bells handed over, when they allow you to crush it and you realise just *how* brittle it is. It flakes like lacquer splatter, weird stuff.
>regular PET
I don't see it, it's viscosity is just too low. As seen as in every pet bottle recycling project ever, it looks like shit without precisely dialed in. To market that to the average joe in all his living climates you need to build a printer which completely opposes the average PLA shenanigans, which we see manufacturers already struggle with.
>fiber core PET
Haven't had a chance to get my hands on some yet, alas without paying out my own purse, but i have high expectations. On paper it seems like the perfect combination, maybe only superseded by continuous fiber.

I doubt we move on from top tier shelf being FDM PC, POM and SLS/MJF PA, TPU anytime soon though. At most, current events will push PA11 and other non crude oil alternatives onto next formnext.
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>>2980307
Probably needs a whole asterisk for
>metal printing
but i think that's a different topic.
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>>2980196
where's the little dude so you can teach STAY IN THE FUCKING CAGE. also you need 1000 more pallets so you can play warehouse collapse.
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>>2980271
no fucking way spools fit in air fryers. also neither temp nor timer is accurate on my air fryer and it's a medium-high tier.
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>>2980288
>PPS
I still have about $80 of this stuff in a bin somewhere.
I printed a benchy, the thing I needed from it, and two replacements.
>>2980307
You're not wrong, though it also depends quite heavily on the temperature. Since most people are using bambu x1c's they print it at 300c in an unheated chamber.
at 65c chamber and 330 nozzle it's about as strong interlayer as abs. Still not great, but that's not it's main purpose.
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>>2980273
>posting tracking links on 4chan.
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>>2980314
>Since most people are using bambu x1c's
I highly doubt that. Bambuniggers are generally too stupid for advanced materials. Wouldn't even be surprised if Ultimaker beat them by raw numbers.
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>>2980319
>Aktually you have to be highly intelligent to use a real 3D printer.
Nigga, you just tweak numbers in the slicer, google shit and hope for the best 9 times out of 10. Don't pretend.
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>>2980323
At least we agree.
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>>2980319
copium
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>>2980335
chat is this real?
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>>2980335
An ender 3 with a 2040 y axis, I wonder how many of us there are left.
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>>2980313
>I paid extra for a cooking appliance that has an inaccurate thermostat and clock.
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>>2980323
>bambuniggers
>google
Don't pretend.
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>>2980307
>PPS becomes boring pretty fast once you get one of those meme bells handed over
If anything, it’s the strength at high temperatures that’s attractive about PAHT and PPS. Engine bays and such.
>PC
Great mechanical properties, but from what I’ve seen of retro PC restorations it’s terrible when exposed to UV. PC-ABS blends mitigate this somewhat, but I’d be interested to see PC-ASA blends. Or just having a proper UV-stabilising additive. I’ve also seen PMMA filament, generally I’ve known it to have worse mechanical properties than PC but it might have its uses.
>POM
I’ve got a roll of the stuff I’m too afraid to start printing with. Well also I don’t need it for now, but if my lazy-susan bearing is too crunchy for an equatorial mount I may open it up. From what I’ve seen of people 5 years ago printing the stuff, it’s warp-prone and doesn’t stick well to beds, but it will be interesting to see how modern machines with heated chambers and modern build surfaces/glues handle it. I know Prusa sell a build plate specifically for polypropylene, which is also a useful engineering material.
>TPU
Lots of room for improvement here too. 95A seems to be a sweet spot for a decent amount of engineering uses, but much softer and much harder TPUs also have promising properties. That the layer adhesion of that 72D TPU (possible PA blend) was worse than 95A was disappointing, considering I’d like to see something more like an 80D or 90D to be used as a PC substitute. Hee extremely soft TPUs are probably stuck in the realm of pellet extruders, though 3mm filaments might get you closer.

>>2980308
Yeah, and for the most part they’re out of reach of consumers. If we’re ordering from a fab house we don’t care about the printing properties, just that they can deliver a part to spec. That said, electrochemical 3D printing (basically selective electroplating) as the possibility to be cheap and small and low-temperature.
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>cleaning out filament bins.
>find unopened spool of CF nylon from nearly a decade ago.
>finally decide to use it and throw it in dryer for 9 hours.
100 bed, 265 nozzle per the spool, 55 chamber, and it printed this.
what in the everloving fuck. Filament is now discontinued, but still. it behaves like slightly stiffer tpu72d, almost polyethylene like. No matter how I twist it I can't even get it to show crazing, let alone layer separation. It returns to its shape easily, and short of cutting it I can't tear the layer lines apart.
Esun EasyPA (EPA). https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08RS3FB37
the "20%" carbon fibers might as well just be printer toner carbon black, for this is less stiff than just straight nylon.
tldr I printed a useless tray out a discontinued filament and am amused by its properties. I've still got ~800g of the stuff, rec me models for this weird thing.
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>>2980406
I was under the impression that EasyPA had no fibres, but it looks like eSun’s filament is meant to. No clue what happened, whether it be a batch issue or some sort of degradation in storage, but at least you can test for presence of fibres by listening for them when cutting through it. You can also compare its flexural modulus to that of the datasheet.

From the video that looks much less stiff than 72D, but I guess it depends on the wall thickness.
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>>2980388
>PPS
It wasn't the bell i was focusing on, without fabric reinforcements, or at least glued to the backside, i wouldn't trust it all. Nevermind inside a fucking engine bay.
>TPU
That wasn't meant as FDM suggestion. Powder based TPU prints are miles ahead of FDM. Same as aforementioned PA.
>electrochemical 3D printing
Love to see it, although i don't know a use case yet, besides marketing/branding.
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>>2980307
>only superseded by continuous fiber
Wasn't that supposed to be a thing for everyone by the end of last year? Whatever happened to that, more stratasys shenanigans?
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>>2980426
It may not look like it, but I am exerting quite a bit of force in the epa-cf video. Here's an unscientific slowmo of 72D tpu (shiny) and the esun epa-cf. https://files.catbox.moe/w5731v.mp4 Can't be arsed to webm. CC3D's 72D is indeed a nylon tpu blend and it is amusing in its own right. what I find so amusing about the epacf is it's basically as strong interlayer as the 72D but stiff enough to be a "stiff" filament.
Maybe over the weekend I might have time to both print a bin out of the 72d tpu along with some three point bending bars, and spend four or five hours looking for my dial indicator.
pic unrel.
>>2980552
the printers that have been marketed print like absolute shit with hardly any appreciable benefits per current tests. don't think any companies have been gullible enough as of yet, and the consumer ones are far from affordable enough.
to add to this, it appears the industry's focus for technical filaments is on support interfaces so dual nozzle/idex setups are becoming much more common. outside of that it's multicolor printing.
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>>2980449
>he doesn't 3d print parts of his airplane.
https://hackaday.com/2025/12/10/failed-3d-printed-part-brings-down-small-plane/
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>>2980562
fugging catbox.
https://imgur.com/a/ZpvUIYT
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>>2980564
Dumbass didn't use PLA+.
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>>2980576
The part was claimed to be CF-ABS by the seller, good to 100C. The actual part softened at low-mid 50s C when tested. The problem isn't that the part was 3D printed (3D printed airplane parts are not new), it's that someone up the supply chain was apparently trying to get away with fraud in a safety-critical application.
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>>2980580
Yeah from what I read it was almost certainly PLA. If it was CF-PLA, it probably could have been annealed for ~150C heat resistance without warping, I assume it wasn't.
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humour.
>>2980580

thermodynami-cysts of /3dpg/, I've had this eibos dryer for a few years now but only recently acquired the tech to verify it's claims. I haven't had any issues with it, but I'm wondering if filling the empty space where the second spool would go help the heating of the spool I'm printing from. I only ever use the second set of rollers when I'm printing with 3kg spools, and that's mostly pla and abs 3kg spools so drying doesnt matter all that much.
The ui is set to 70c, but the spool is only 60C, at best.
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>>2980595
Kinda what I'm thinking out of pps-cf. obviously it would be hollow and single walled.
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>>2980595
It wouldn't help the heating, but it would speed up the air flow. If it works, it works. If you want to be sure, check with a total immersion lab thermometer in the dryer.
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>>2980564
$20 bucks says this guy ordered via some chinaprint and got chang'd to save a nickel. so he as the qualifying agent failed to properly inspect the equipment and now will catch a hefty fine on top of injury for being a dipshit
despite planes being expensive most plane owning faggots are notoriously so tight they squeak
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>>2980595
having more mass in the chamber means longer to get to temp and more residual heat after. adding a "wet" spool will affect it more. as it changes the humidity, retarding the effectiveness. a mass of silica would be your best use for the space as it would increase the drying and prolong the heat retention (assuming that even mattered in the first place). alternatively see if one rack or the other is the better drying position for a single roll.
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>>2980618
is he fucking TOWING the plane with an outboard in a fucking rowboat? we never should have stopped smoking.
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>>2980618
I'm fairly sure he bought it from a stall at an aviation show, or maybe the previous owner of the plane did. Do the chinks even bother printing FDM carbon fibre parts, instead of a powder technology?
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>>2980260
Fucking Democrats
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>>2980618
>$20 bucks says this guy ordered via some chinaprint
>>2980564
>https://hackaday.com/2025/12/10/failed-3d-printed-part-brings-down-small-plane/
>the owner of the aircraft purchased the part at an airshow in the USA
Want to pay in crypto or cash?
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>>2980624
>?
Cease your investigations.
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>>2980260
Not clicking your link, but from what Google says they're trying to ban 3D printing of firearms. I'm a conservative, a Republican, and a gunsmith, and if they do then I truly don't give a fuck. If you do, the only reason is that you don't have the skills to do it the old fashioned way.
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>>2980659
I sometimes envy the mentally deficient.
You do understand the bills bans mills as well? And any machine that is capable of via aditive or subtractive processes manufacture a firearm.
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>>2980659
>they're trying to ban 3D printing of firearms
by mandating that every machine that has any kind of programming (your aunt's cricut joy for example) have to check in with a centralized federal server and upload the information to be compared to a database of prints. as a healthy dick sucking republican "centralized federal server" should be the LEAST part that makes you mald.
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>>2980661
>>2980668
Stop replying to niggers, please.
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I've had an Ender 3 Pro for 8 years and an Ender 3 Max Neo for 4 years. I'm making a bit more money than I was in the past, and, after troubleshooting a warping issue on the Max Neo for hours, I think it's finally time to upgrade to something nicer.

I've been seeing the stuff around Bambu locking firmware, and some weird legislation coming out, so I don't want something that's zogged to shit, what's the recommendation for something that's nicer than Creality, but not riddled with AIDS like Bambu?

Ideally I'd have at least a 300x300mm print bed, but 400x400 would be better since I've been doing some larger prototyping.
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>>2980668
It’s actually kinda ambiguous whether the spyware has to be on the hardware or on the software that generates the g-code. Because it’s pretty hard to tell that something is a firearm component from the g-code file, even if you have a list of known 3D printed gun files it would be tough to render each c-code. CMC mill g-codes would be easier to render, but trivial to make a part outside of their ban list.
If the spyware was in the slicer, it would be much easier to detect firearm adjacent componentry. And arguably easier to legislate on than chinese hardware, if the age verification requirements on Linux end up having any teeth.

Still, the whole thing seems like a logical impossibility. At worst they catch a few retards with no opsec trying to make a liberator or fgc 9.

>>2980732
SV08, maybe the larger Anycubic enclosed printer that got released recently, maybe something from Qidi if you want a heated chamber (just not their most recent 3 pro max or whatever it’s called).
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>>2980645
6 dairy queen coupons
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>>2980736
>it’s pretty hard to tell
literally the problem the program will be totally ineffective and the standards are asinine so it's just a totalitarian overreach that will mostly affect people who aren't making guns
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>>2980829
Don't worry anon. If you get caught, you'll get the same treatment as 40x repeat offenders that get caught with glock switches. You'll be out on personal recognizance and nothing will come of it.
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>>2980675
no, u.
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This is the only filament dryer that uses a white system? Has no chink copied it yet?
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>>2980863
Well today i learned shu te is a filtered word. Anyway any kind of valve system that doesn't require silica balls.
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>>2980863
that looks retarded.
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So arches don't print well but what about small arches? Is there any thing I can do to make them more printable without supports?
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>>2980884
Teardrop.
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>>2980889
This one is a model so it has to be an arch.
It's quite tall too so supports would take too long and use a lot of material.
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>>2980863
>>2980864
You mean the vent that can be opened and closed by servo? Yeah it’s neat, especially if you have a seperate drying and storage mode, but I think otherwise you can just tune the size of a static vent. Also Polymaker’s polydrier might have a controllable vent, I’m not sure. Using desiccant barely works because up at 50-70C silica gel releases its stored moisture. Not sure about activated alumina.

I was going to wonder why they were bothering to have an internal humidity sensor since those always measure just from 10-90%, but apparently the SHT3x sensors measure down to 0% and can probably survive 120C temperatures. Damn I need to get me some of those.

>>2980884
Arches imply shallow overhangs, so part cooling really matters. But beyond that, if you can make the majority of the arch flat on top, you can bridge it instead, which most printers handle much better than shallow overhangs.
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>>2980884
Get a little closer to the bed and if your slicer lets you heat early layers hotter do that, easier to bridge with better adhesion
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>>2980901
Is there a way to change the orientation? Upside down or on its side should be ok for any size of arc.
Different material. Something you can blast with your fan to cool down faster.
Change the wall printing order. Use inner/outer for best overhangs. And an arch is kind of like two overhangs that just kiss in the middle.
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>>2980903
>>2980904
>>2980905
This is a pic of what I'm trying to print, each of those slots are 4 mm wide, that's the diameter of the arches. This is at the very top of a 25 cm tall piece. These slots go all the way to near bottom of it. Right now they're made from semi circles. I could flatten them a bit, so they're wider than they're tall.
>https://litter.catbox.moe/5h24cj.png
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>>2980908
if it's your model, you could design it directly with support in the file.
Behold! my mighty paint skills.
>red is your arc
>green is support
You should be able to bridge 4mm easily. And then you can put your arch support on your support bridge.
This is the easiest way to save on filament, while still printing with support.
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>>2980909
I can give that a shot. How thick and tall do you suggest those beams should be? I already said the arches span 4 mm, the walls are 2 mm and I'm printing with 0.2 mm layers.
But I don't understand how that would be better, doesn't printing the entire bottom support at once, in a single layer, covering 4 mm unsupported be worse than printing the arch?
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>>2980913
>How thick
I would say 2 maybe 3 layers wide for the vertical support and 4 or 5 for the vertical bridge.
>and tall do you suggest those beams should be?
I would start a bridge right beneath the part where the two sides start to "lean" into the middle.
>doesn't printing the entire bottom support at once, in a single layer, covering 4 mm unsupported be worse than printing the arch?
here is the thing. You can get away with quite a lot of bridging, compared to arching. The bad part with arching isn't the unsupported part where you are crossing from one side to the other, but rather the couple of layers right beneath the final bridge. Because that's where the biggest overhang happens.
See pic related for what I mean. On the left side you got an arch and the red circle is the layer with the most overhang. You can see how it wants to sag more than the layer above it that has even less support. But this layer actually bridges from one side to the other.
On the right side you got a bridge that is 10mm wide (sorry for the bad focus) and no real problem bridging it. Yeah, the first 2 or 3 layers sag maybe a little bit, but layer 4 and 5 are already horizontal again.
And just FYI this benchy was printed with ASA+. PLA is even better at bridging and overhangs because you can blast it with your fan 100% to cool it down even faster.
And I wouldn't even worry about your 4mm arch. Actually you might get away without any kind of support.
Hope you learned something anyway. Good luck and happy printing.
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>>2980913
And here are some general CAD design tips that might be helpful.
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>>2980931
Thanks for the pic and explanation, much appreciated.
Mine is from ABS and I couldn't do it without support (I printed a little test arch, just a slice of the full model, didn't work). The arch used to be 10 mm apart, then 6 and now 4 and I can't really make it any smaller at this point. The piece is supposed to be as open as possible.
This notebook can't handle how complex the model is getting by now so I'll try getting it done tomorrow on another PC I have access.
>>2980932
>sacrificial ribs
Oh, those are easier to model. I'll try that too.
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>>2980908
client not found why not just post the image? also have you considered printing it upside down or making the arches separately?
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>>2980884
Gothic arches. Possibly with a flat bridge at the top.
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>>2980187
The fumes from denatured alcohol seem to affect me more than the fumes from the resin. I do wear a respirator with organic filters but the smell seems to cling to my skin.

Should I DIY a fume extractor? Not with a brushed motor obviously...
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Just bought a Saturn 4 Ultra 16k after waffling back and forth considering getting a 3d resin printer for like a year now. Saw it was on sale on Elegoo's website and finally stopped being a little bitch about it. Ordered a wash/cure station as well, then went on Amazon for the rest of the shit (namely an enclosure). Now that everything's en route, I figure I'll ask anon:
What's the single biggest fuckup-thwarting trick (You) have added to your arsenal? Regardless of how big or small it is, is there one niche bit of knowledge or gear you swear by other than the usual suspects?
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>>2980903
>You mean the vent that can be opened and closed by servo?
Pretty much. I very much distrust silica gel after learning the industry completely shitting on it. If they don't use it, why should i?
>Polymaker’s polydrier might have a controllable vent
Nah, there seems to be a mod for it though.

It's a bit weird the consumer side hasn't catched up, or rather stagnated since summer in general.

>>2980944
>>2980945
>>>/tg/3dpg
They're a bit more active on resin over and please stop killing yourself and get proper air filtration.
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>>2980951
>They're a bit more active on resin over
Ah, I hadn't thought to check /tg/ when I was looking for the right board for 3d printing; thanks, anon
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>>2980944
>Denatured alcohol fumes are toxic, highly flammable, and cause dizziness, headaches, nausea, eye watering, and respiratory irritation
. Due to methanol content, inhalation can lead to central nervous system depression or, in extreme cases, blindness or death. Always use in well-ventilated areas or outdoors, avoiding confined spaces.
um, yeah. resin fumes aren't toxic but everyone develops resin sensitivity if they're exposed to it. idk if the full face masks some youtoobers wear is necessary, I'm pretty sure it's not but yeah if you were worried about resin smell and not alcohol killing you you were looking the wrong way crossing the street.
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>>2980951
>>It's a bit weird the consumer side hasn't catched up, or rather stagnated since summer in general.
Things like the Sunlu E2 are pushing the boundaries of temperature, I'm tempted to get one since I get a staff discount where I work. But the lack of controllable vents, or any humidity feedback really, is definitely not optimal.
Bambu only somewhat recently made a printer with a controllable vent for printing PLA with the door closed, I expect the same idea will trickle down to filament driers sooner or later.

The iDryer seems to be an unusually obscure project for what it claims to do, for much cheaper than an E2, possibly even cheaper than a standard good drier like the Space Pi. Though I have my doubts about whether that fan will last at the 80C+ temperatures it's going to be immersed in, and the fully printed case isn't the most robust design for something that gets that hot. I'd probably buy some Sunlu ABS-FR if I was going to make that project, but I think it would be even smarter to make a sheet metal case so I wouldn't have to worry about it softening. Maybe a double-layered case with insulation in the gap to save power for multi-day drying, that aircrete I saw NightHawkInLight make seems like a suitable material.

I'd also like to see someone rigorously test the iDryer, especially for hot-spots, but also just for performance vs a passively ventilated drier.
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>>2980953
they're also stupid unhelpful faggots mostly, not like us smart sophisticated gents who don't dally in resin.

>>2980957
>for printing PLA with the door closed
am I not supposed to be?
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>>2980958
>am I not supposed to be?
For long prints with a heated bed, with a closed door and lid, the chamber temperature gets above ~55C, the glass transition temperature of PLA. It will then cease it's ability to hold a good shape as it is printed. Up until that point, your overhangs and bridging will suffer, and your chance of heat-creep causing a clog in your hot end increase too. If you have the lid off, or are running one of those cold plates like biqu frostbite or gecko-tape, you should be fine. And for short prints it's not generally an issue. Having a big printer with a segmented heated bed helps too.
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>>2980958
>am I not supposed to be?
depends on how well the printer can exhaust excess heat, handle heat creep in the extruder, your extrusion cooling solution, and where the cold air is being taken in from.
There is a benefit to printing PLA at ~30-35C ambient temps if you can deal with a loss of quality. On large prints with tall thin walls being printed fast it can also keep warping from happening, though the excess heat can in itself cause warping.
One of my bins printed out of hs-PLA has a slight bow to it because I left the door open but forgot to remove the lid, so it led to some weird temp gradient.
But you can also get warping from excess heat, the print itself might fail to cool properly the prior layer, or it could lead to extrusion issues if the heatbreak proves insufficient and the material in the extruder gears softens.
tldr, just open the damn thing.
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how do I design threads for PLA printing?
Do I really have to draw it up to precise specs - nuts need special tolerances (forgot what it's called).
How much difficulty will I encounter printing parts with no tolerance?
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>>2980984
Just look up a tutorial on youtube. It's so easy a woman could do it.
>How much difficulty will I encounter printing parts with no tolerance
They just won't fit at all.
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This "measure backlash when probing" feature in Marlin seems like it wouldn't work for a BL-touch, no? Maybe an inductive sensor or something else, but it seems to me like there's no way of measuring the backlash of the Z screws independently from the backlash of the probe.
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>>2980984
>how do I design threads for PLA printing
you make a solid wall then tap it, or just selftap with the metal thread and a little bit of heat.
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>>2980957
>Bambuniggers now think they invented vents and others are copying them off.
>sheet metal on an dehumidifier
And then they complain when we call them stupid.
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>>2980984
a good rule of thumb for external threads is nominal OD - (0.1 * pitch), for instance an M12 would be 12 - (0.1 * 1.75) = 11.825. for imperial threads, instead of 0.1 you use the average toenail thickness west of east
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>>2981001
I'm not saying they invented them, just that it's the first time I've seen automatically actuated vents on a consumer 3D printing product, so it's probably more likely that someone will apply the same idea to a filament drier now than it was before. Not a bambufag, currently driving my ender 3 into the ground with another upgrade.
>sheet metal on an dehumidifier
Yes, nice sheet steel for high temperature resistance. Fibreglass panels would work too, copper-clad FR4 could even be soldered together and/or have heating elements etched into their copper for extremely even heating, but thin sheet steel would be the cheapest. Shame ammo boxes aren't very cheap where I live, nor tall enough. You'd have two layers of the steel, with an inch air gap full of fibreglass wool or some other insulator (maybe aircrete as I suggested earlier because I can't buy less than a few cubic feet of fibreglass wool) it would retain heat excellently Maybe the outside layer can be plastic. Though if someone can direct me to cheap plastic containers that can handle 120C without losing their strength or decomposing over time, that would be ideal for the inner wall too. Just buy two containers of slightly different sizes and nest them for an insulating gap, maybe to leave as air, maybe to fill with insulation. Just having air between two ikea tubs being used as snapmaker U1 lids seemed to do a good job from what I saw online.
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>>2981002
I got something good enough within tolerance with a janky onshape plugin.
it'll do
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>>2981008
but seriously all I wanted was to find a library of files and just chop parts to fit my design.
why I no can find?!
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>>2981009
because you touch yourself at night and use an online environment.
When you export to stl make sure the cad program actually modeled the threads, they don't always unless you select some setting to do so.
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>>2980196
>Forklift trainer
Don't forget to show them Gabelstaplerfahrer Klaus
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>>2981021
It's mandatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1BAiJIaezc
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>>2980984
in fusion 360 you need to model the thread tool and then reduce the faces of the threads.
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>>2981032
I have a spool of it I somewhere, I think.
I too wanted to use it for inserts on pelican cases, but the impetus kinda fell apart considering the things I've got in those already have the included foam picked into the correct shape.
The use I will give to it eventually is for anything that needs a foot pad/feet bumpers, apparently it grips well.
From what I've read, it prints like shit not matter what you do.
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Anyone have a Bambu H2D or a printer with a chamber heater? Probably going to be printing in ABS soon. Have printed some parts in the past that were pretty blocky that didn't warp, but had some prototypes of other parts that did warp without chamber heating. Curious as to whether chamber heating and a good build plate + some design tweaks can pump out some parts without warping. ABS has been real hit or miss for me.
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>>2981087
chamber heaters help, but unless you're going above 60c you're better off preheating the volume with the bed for 10-20 minutes before you start printing and not run an exhaust fan. figure out what you can do with current equipment before throwing money at the problem.
https://warosu.org/diy/thread/2953645#p2957521
You only *really* need one if for some reason you're printing a filament with a relative low bed temp but high propensity to warping. only ones that I have noticed are straight nylon and straight pet. both have a ~80c bed temp for my profiles but still require 60-65c chamber hence the heater actually has to run.
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I see a lot of people talking about orca slicer. Ive always just used prusaslicer because ive got a prusa machine. What am i really missing, if anything? Maybe im wrong since i bought into the cult but arent most slicers forks of prusa anyways?
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>>2981091
I use both, but I use Prusaslicer 90% of the time. Orca slicer has some nice bleeding edge features but I prefer cleaner interface of Prusaslicer. Ultimately the quality of the prints is the same when you got things dialed in.
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>>2981097
Thanks anon. I assumed there wasnt a huge difference but you know people online and youtube creators always dial everything up 1000%
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>>2981089
Saw in that post that a standard 4mm nozzle wasn't being used. Does this help minimize warping or just speed up print time. Not buying a chamber heater as I already have an H2D, but if the product im prototyping has a decent sales volume I will probably be looking at another H2D or throwing some chamber heaters in a P2S.
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>>2981089
Are those bed temperatures for PA and PET because they’d adhere too strongly at a higher temperature? Seems like it could benefit from a dedicated build surface like what Prusa makes for PP, or some sort of release agent like magigoo or that visionminer gunk.

>>2981091
I haven’t used Prusaslicer in a while, by the looks of things it’s imported at least some of orca’s features. I like Orca for its built-in calibration prints, like the retraction and temperature towers. Scarf seams are cool too, not that I can get good results from them.
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>>2981099
I use 0.6 and 0.8 because time matters more than quality for things like fixtures, especially when I might have to print multiples of them.
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>>2981087
why do you need ABS again?
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>>2981024
am I forklift certified now?
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>>2981137
you still need a signed certificate from anon that you have attended his class.
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>>2981133
nta, but maybe because it is the best sub 10$/kg plastic available.
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>>2980187
Hey that's me in the top left.
I ended up redoing all calibrations, tightening screws and wheels, cleaning the extruder and printing all auto towers.
Pic is the results and before anyone comments on the stringing, that has been adjusted further afterwards.
Not entirely sure what the issue actually was, maybe wildly incorrect fan settings and that an increase in retraction prime amount was needed.
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>>2981133
Women generally find abs attractive.
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>>2981172
ABS fumes can make your tits grow bigger.
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>>2981133
Heat resistance and strength. Have used PETG for a similar product and it would shatter when dropped. The ABS would bounce. Its just a better material for my intended use case. Unless theres some other material thats cheap I don't know about.
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>>2981176
>and it would shatter when dropped
This property is toughness, not strength. PETG is typically stronger than ABS, but ABS is tougher.
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>>2981137
forklift certified is a state of mind
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>>2981178
Typical Portland, they don't even know the difference between a forklift and a telehandler
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>>2981177
I guess the part needs to be both tough and strong then. I print mostly in petg and pla, but for this I think im going to jump back on abs as long as it doesnt warp.
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>>2981177
Huh, I didn’t realise that PETG had higher strength than ABS. Seems like ASA might be similar to PETG though. I guess PC is the way to go if you want something stronger than PLA.
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>>2981193
>I didn’t realise that PETG had higher strength than ABS
It's not a big difference, and not generally a reason to prefer one over the other, but tests usually find that PETG is stronger than ABS.

>Seems like ASA might be similar to PETG though.
It's very similar mechanically to ABS. Generally more so than to other plastics, though particular brands/colors may vary.

>I guess PC is the way to go if you want something stronger than PLA.
PC is usually about on par with PLA for strength and stiffness, but it's much tougher and more heat-resistant (unless the PLA is annealed). PC is also more creep-resistant
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>>2981201
>colors
Colour can change the filament mechanical properties? Is it significant?
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>>2981203
It can be. Colors are implemented by mixing pigments into the plastic, with effects that depend on what's being added and how much there is. Black, for example is usually carbon black, tiny bits of soot that can improve the mechanical properties of polymers (significant for things like car tires), but as it's an extremely potent pigment, there isn't usually much added. It usually has the best mechanical properties, possibly aside from "natural" uncolored plastic. On the other end, white is usually titanium dioxide, which comes in small crystals that typically don't bond well to plastic (and can be somewhat abrasive). It's a fairly weak pigment, so bright white can need a lot of it. It usually has the worst mechanical properties of filament colors. Other colors are usually somewhere in between.
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>>2981205
If I recall MyTechFun or someone similar tested it and found pink to be the strongest.
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>>2981218
Fantastic, I can now improve my prints by 2% but only if I use this very specific filament color from this very specific vendor from this very specific batch.
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>>2981218
It varies.
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>>2981222
Exactly! In reality it’s useful to know just so you can taunt the people trying to print something “as strong as possible” for not using the most optimal filament.
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>>2981222
That's not unique to 3D printing. It applies to every construction material. Different kinds of wood have different properties, and within species they vary by climate. Individual trees vary from each other, so wood is rated according to indications of its strength. Individual foundry batches of metal vary, so any time something important is built, material tracking with mill test reports keep track of every bit of metal used in a project. And some places will cheap out if they can get away with it. Etc.
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>>2981205
White PLA has never been problematic for me. Clear PLA when used for some mechanical prints has been a nightmare. If I remember correctly I had delamination issues or something. PLA is naturally a cream color, so they must have been doing something funky to make clear PLA.
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>>2981245
Reading comprehension not your strength I take it? That was a response to the varying strength by color that everyone keeps parroting about like absolute retards.
>I need stronger parts!
>hurr have you considered changing the color of the part?
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Is this a scam? I mean I'd love to have a higher temp hotend just for the keks and in case I really need it but this is an insane price for something that's basically a different shaped heater and maybe a different thermistor
Do you think it can be machined out in a shop out of 6061 alu and with some electronics added?
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>>2981309
it's rather pointless to advertise a ridiculously high temp hotend on a machine that doesn't have an actively heated chamber.
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>>2981316
> machine that doesn't have an actively heated chamber.
Yea that's my next project, I like my C1L but the chamber takes forever to heat up so I'll use a ptc heater or something
Prusa machines are nice but their spare parts are expensive as fuck, I've seen Chinese knockoffs literally at 1/20 of the price like the nozzle adapter for example
Now I'm thinking this hotend could probably be DIYed too
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>>2981318
there's also this weird gap when if comes to filament temperatures that I've found, where everything seems to be either below 320 (pps-cf being the hottest at like 330C if you're printing fast) and 400+ for things like pekk, peek, ultem, pps, and the like.
I find no point in a 350+C hotend for consumer printers, though pet-cf and ppsu do make a case for at least 320 max temp.
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>>2981324
300C is pretty standard these days, is such a hot end really going to fail if I turn it up by another 20 degrees? Worst case you change the torque of the nozzle. Or maybe the press-fit bimetal heat-breaks and such fail due to differential thermal expansion?
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>planning to print an infidex 176 v
Anyone tried printing a camera before? I can't decide on a filament to use, and further on print settings. I have an $80 spool of PPA-CF core but I dunno if that's really the best option. It'll take about 600 grams in total, so using that would be about $48 in plastic
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>>2981332
If you print first in abs then for some reason decide to go for reprinting in PAcfcore you'd have spent $90 total.
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>>2981324
Mainly for steel nozzles, I found that running them hotter by 20° completely alleviates the negative sides of them and they run just like brass, that and I like to apply the logic of something being overbuilt for reliability, sort of like when you have a powerful engine that you don't redline and it's gonna last for a long time
>>2981328
Thermal expansion applies to everything that's heated, that includes the hotend "body", nothing's gonna crack because of it unless you use an ugga dugga on your nozzle
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>>2981328
thermal expension is negligible on such small parts.
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Is there a way to get multiple dovetails in a part using the orca/bambu slicer, or in prusaslicer?
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>>2981342
my bimetal nozzles require a 0.1mm to 0.15mm z offset adjustment printing at 320C.
Not a concern if the machine does load cell leveling though.
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>>2981345
so what? the expansion from room temp to 300C is in the micrometer scale so your added 20 degrees effectively does nothing as far as total expansion goes
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>>2981361
you have a point. My main printer dates back to the prior decade, hence I'm still using feeler gauges to set xz offset, and I typically do it with pla temps and adjust accordingly for particularly pps and petcf.
I wonder if the load cell printers do their pecking at print temperature or some other predetermined temp.
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>>2981282
>yes, the fine composition of materials matters, but only neerrrds care about it
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>>2981381
>what is a standard deviation.
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>>2981383
A statistical measure that can be estimated with multiple tests.
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>>2981087
A chamber heater matters more for layer adhesion than warping on an enclosed Bambu machine.

t. P1S with a PTC heater.
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>>2981421
All machines work the same fundamentally, you prevent warping the same way you prevent heated or welded metal from cracking which is slow controlled cooling
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>>2981309
Me again, found this on temu for 7 bucks, also a bunch of nozzles that didn't cost more than a real E3D one
There's no way the oem parts price is hyperinflated, even if the chinese knockoffs are supposedly lower quality they can't be a complete piece of garbage considering they're simple parts you can sand down in case something's wrong
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>>2981442
I don't know when the order is gonna arrive but I'll post results in one of these threads, in case some of you want to be cheap bastards like myself or you just don't like overpaying out of principle.
I'm gonna print stuff with both brass and steel nozzles and compare to whatever I made with the "real" nozzle and heater I had on my printer
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>>2981375
> I wonder if the load cell printers do their pecking at print temperature or some other predetermined temp.
Predetermined temp, mine cranks the heat up to 170° default idle, probes the bed and then heats up to whatever you need for the selected material
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>>2981442
>converts your fancy european leak-proof nozzle into a shitty chinese V6 nozzle
Eh, be interesting to see how viable it is, but if you want high temperature printing I'd probably just run the original heater up to 320. If you're worried put a bigger fan on it.
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>>2981446
Unfortunately the fancy euro nozzle is single piece and I've only got one so even with replacement nozzles I can't swap them out
As for leaks, I'm gonna see how it behaves, shouldn't leak if it's tightened properly but I've got a backup plan, I'll put a small copper washer between the 2 parts to seal better if it leaks, the kind you use with hydraulic brake lines
I suspect the possible leaks are mostly gonna be an issue with petg, not composites with CF or GF which I'll have to print with steel cheapo nozzles anyway
> I'd probably just run the original heater up to 320
You mean in the slicer settings?
I haven't yet tried that or had the need to go further than 260
I'll first see how the cheapos work and then figure the heater upgrade later.
I've also ordered the cheapest pei build plate intended for k2c I think, the size is the exact same like mine, even the locating notches in the back so we'll see how that works too.
If all else fails I still have the original equipment and I didn't waste a ton of money on these
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Bought a Qidi Q2, what am I in for?
Any upgrades to print other than the riser for the top? I think I saw something about a cooling duct for parts but not sure.
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>>2981447
>You mean in the slicer settings?
No I mean the maximum temperature in the printer's firmware, assuming it's 300C and you wanted to push it higher. For the reasons we being discussed above: >>2981316, >>2981324, >>2981328, i.e. printing PPS and PET-CF.
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>>2981449
a bad time printing pla and petg, a fantastic time with ABS,nylons and pet blends.
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Once I run out of my current stock of hex head fasteners I'm going to start buying the torx equivalents.
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>>2981442
Im going to buy the prusa HT hotend for my core L eventually. Kind of the same mindset that i want the most flexible machine possible. I dont have much of an interest in multi filament prints right now so i am trying to get the most ability i can.

I always thought part of the prices with Prusa stuff was for the industrial market. If youre using a machine to prototype parts for production its a cover your ass thing using official hardware only.
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>>2981344
are you looking for pattern? if you leave the dovetail as an object you can pattern horizontally in fusion and then boolean add or subtract as necessary. don't forget to 0.2mm gap, you might duplicate the dovetail negative and expand the sides before patterning.
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>>2981472
>>2981344
I did not read the question sorry. fak.wav
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>>2981473
It's a pretty regular shape that i want to make, I guess I can just do it in fusion. Shouldn't be too much of a pain, i just wanted to know if there a moron tick box somewhere I was missing.
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>>2981442
titanium really brings the dough out of retards
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>spend $3000+ on 3d printing gear
>still feel bad when I waste $3 of PLA
Why am I like this
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>>2981496
to be honest that's a lot of PLA
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>>2981505
It's about 200 grams
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>>2980187
>Where can I get things to print?
>www.thingiverse.com/
>thangs.com/
>printables.com/
>grabcad.com/
>www.yeggi.com/
>cults3d.com/
>www.stlfinder.com/
>google.com/
>T*legr*m

I'm trying to make a stencil. I don't get CAD at all. The design is simple. Which one of these guys would take my shitty paintshop, and do it all the rest for me?
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As much as i admit Prusa did a lot of things right on the Core One, the continued partnership with E3D isn't one of them. The simple fact that we don't have a simple hardened steel nozzle, which worked well for more than decade, available, but instead have to shell out for some triple coated raretanium is quite frankly jewry.
>But goy you can buy the adapter. It only throws away the whole reason we came up with this nozzle.
May god punish England.

>>2981509
If you can't even post your image/vector/etc. in question, i have bad news for you anon.. That said, if it's really simple you may get away by asking AI.
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>>2981520
Yeah dude I'd have to find the abandoned thing I'll ask GROK. If you can suggest a better AI please do
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is 3d printing good enough in 2026?
I've been seeing really cool stls but is the result worth it? I'm planning on buying a printer and printing wargaming stuff and some other silly useful stuff, but if it works out I'll probably try bigger stls since I'm into painting
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>>2981534
If you want war games stuff go straight to resin little guys are really hard to print with fdm. It’s more work but the results are worth it.
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Hmm, it all fits nicely to the ender after I added some aluminium spacers. It’s nice not to have any PLA or PETG parts between the hot end and carriage. The stepper stick-out is somewhat concerning, but that’s why I got the pancake stepper, and considering how fast this machine prints it’s probably fine. But I’m wondering how to mount the heat-sink fan and part-cooling fan. I’d rather not put any printed plastic on any of the existing screws, especially not for the heat sink, there’s another hole or two but they aren’t tapped so would need nuts on the other side. I’m thinking maybe a bracket containing a magnet or two, so I can easily take the fan shroud off. I’ll be using a 4020 axial fan for the heat-sink, and a 4020 or 5015 blower as the part cooling.
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Can't wait for spring to kick in so I can take the ridiculous brewers belt off my vat and can actually print and post process without freezing my ass off in my garage
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>>2981543
I feel like "more work" is really doing it injustice. 90% of wargaming folk who are truly interested in 3d printing would be turned off by the postprocessing alone
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>>2981546
for why.
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>>2981555
Because my shitty V6 heat-break keeps leaking.
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>>2981556
how on earth do you manage a leaking hotend past the mid 2010's?
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>>2981552
it's been low 60s here all winter. summer is going to be straight fire as in literally the state is going to be on fire since we got almost zero snow.
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>>2981546
>flash new firmware
>start a bed mesh
>takes a while but it finished
>touch new pancake stepper
>it’s really hot
>turn printer off
>look into adjusting stepper current
>apparently you probe the reference voltage on top of the trimpot
>adjust it from 1V to 0.3V
>stepper doesn’t move
>can freely rotate the extruder gear
>move pins around
>stepper still doesn’t move
>turn current back up
>still no movement
>swap Z and E stepper
>Z screws don’t rotate, but extruder turns
>use pocket oscilloscope and see no waveforms on the extruder driver’s pins
>swap back and do another bed mesh
>extruder stepper locks up and starts getting warm again
>square waveforms on the stepper pins
what the fuck is going on
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>>2981543
>>2981554
thanks guys
a friend who is into 3dprinting just told me I need an open room or some kind of extractor to use a resin printer, is he right?
I mean, I can't use it indoors with just an open window?
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>>2981594
No it’s toxic and that’s part of the “more work” lol
If you want to just dip your little toe get a super cheap normal filament printer and use it for terrain and walls and stuff until you get bored then upgrade to resin
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>>2981594
you CAN use it inside with just an open window.
as long as you aren't in that room for long, and you wear a respirator while you do shit in there.
resin is in that fun zone of "is this fine or is it the next lead", where we dont know the long term effects, but what IS known is that repeated exposure can lead to resin allergies, which sucks ass.
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>>2981595
>>2981600
thanks anons
if I use the resin printer with precautions, is the printed mini still toxic? I mean, when I manipulate it (like painting)
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>>2981591
>turn printer back on again
>tell it to do a filament change
>extruder stepper just works
I think I tricked myself by unplugging and replugging the stepper, seems like the stepper-driver faulted-out by detecting no connected motor.

>>2981602
Once it's washed and cured it should be pretty inert. At least, somewhere around as inert as cured epoxy, which contains BPA. So I wouldn't eat food off it or make a toddler's toy out of it without a robust clearcoat, but for general handling it should be fine.
Just note that it does coat surfaces in the room with microscopic droplets of the resin, as the fumes condense. I'd invest in a blower fan and some cheap ducting to route out of the window.
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>>2981450
Right, I'll avoid doing that for now, I don't have a lot of confidence with lobotomizing the firmware yet
>>2981471
> I dont have much of an interest in multi filament prints right now so i am trying to get the most ability i can.
Me neither, they're currently talking about indx but I see it's gonna cost a ton and so far I haven't ever found the use to print multiple materials at the same time, but I really want to be able to change nozzles without taking everything apart
> I always thought part of the prices with Prusa stuff was for the industrial market. If youre using a machine to prototype parts for production its a cover your ass thing using official hardware only.
Sort of, the filtration system they sell works really well but the replacement filter is expensive as fuck even though it's just a normal hepa filter, pretty sure the same ones are sold for pennies on amazon and other sites for example
I'll try the adapter as soon as I get it and will post results. In the meantime I'll figure out why my C1L is making clanking and shaking noises on the left side, haven't seen any print issues but I'm concerned about something falling apart.
I've heard factory assembled prusas sometimes do have these fuckups and it's recommended to go through everything
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>>2981604
I've also been thinking about the nozzle adapters and nozzles and reported leaks and I'm wondering why didn't they ever make this sort of tapered press fit style thread like picrel?
They're used on pressure and flow regulators on argon and other gas cylinders and they handle insane pressure without leaks
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>>2981602
once its cured the mini is safe, right up until you sand it and the dust goers airborne.

i've found my bigger issue is that the dirty IPA fumes made the room smell like absolute dogshit even 8 months after i moved the printer into the shed with a growtent venting it outside.
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So if I'm tuning linear advance and input shaping with Marlin, does that mean I have to look at the results of the calibration prints, and manually write a bit of g-code that will save those settings to the printer's eeprom?
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I only just ordered my first printer and I'm looking at filaments.
Am I correct in thinking that since layer adhesion is the weak point of all FDM prints I'm better off getting something with better layer adhesion even at the cost of overall material strength if I want to have a single piece print that's (relatively)strong in all dimensions?
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>>2981614
Kinda? You can usually design your model to have loading in the X and Y directions, or only compressive loading in the Z direction. Generally the only cases where strength increases significantly but layer adhesion decreases significantly is with non-core/coextruded fibre-reinforced filaments, and with high-temperature filaments that you're not printing in a hot enough environment. If it's strength you want for engineering prints, you'd better have bought yourself a printer with an actively heated chamber, or at least the ability to add one later.
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>>2981605
Besides adding length to the overall setup, looks like a perfect spot for residue to form.

>>2981611
Yes.

>>2981614
If you're doing a print that depends on layer adhesion you're in for a bad time. What do you plan to print, what it's form and function? How do you buy a printer without planning what exactly to do with it anyways? Do you buy a saw just for the sake of it?
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>>2981594
add a fan

>>2981614
get a roll of PLA to learn and prototype with, it's cheap and there are a lot of other things you can do to help a design not fail. jump straight to ASA for strength and UV protection with a higher melt point.

to wit my mailbox pull which was PLA lasted 4.5 years in the direct sun and then crumbled to shit out of nowhere. I reprinted in PLA because I didn't have any ASA or PETG color that worked with a gray mailbox.
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>>2981628
>Do you buy a saw just for the sake of it?
do you not?
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there goes lcd screen 2 in the mars 4 ultra. Got a bambu p1s coming in the mail. I'm not rolling the dice printing things that don't absolutely need the detail of resin
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>Printing drybox things for filament drier.
>Could just remove them before I put them in the drier.
>Lazy.
>Needs to be able to withstand 75C.
>PLA out of the question.
>PETG is probably okay, but varies from brand to brand.
>ABS or ASA would be optimal.
>Get some ABS.
>Print the thing.
>Blobby and rough surface with mushy edges.
>Print a calibration cube.
>Smooth and crisp edges.
>Fuck about with the slicer to slow it down a little and maybe help it out.
>Still bad.

Alright, I'm retarded and don't know what I'm doing. Any theories on what I'm doing wrong here?
I'm using the same filament profile for each print. I'm using some random dry pod model from the internet. So, I'm guessing the issue is something relating to the model geometry, or slicer settings themselves.
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>>2981605
thermal cycling makes the nozzle leak, it's a threading issue, this wouldn't solve the problem.
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>>2981670
A significantly shorter layer time on your print compared tot the cube is my guess.
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>>2981670
post a pic of the cube and drybox in your slicer, and the cube and drybox IRL.
my guess is thin walls that can warp enough to ruin the finish.
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>>2981675
I always assumed as much. But then why don’t normal V6/MK8 nozzles leak all the time? And why is mine the exception?
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>>2981603
>At least, somewhere around as inert as cured epoxy, which contains BPA.
There are medical-grade resins, which are approved for things like implants and dental work.
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>>2981708
i don't know nearly enough about your setup to answer that, maybe you overtightened, it doesn't take much to deform brass.
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>>2981717
>maybe you overtightened
I did not consider that possibility, I assumed tigher was always better so long as I didn't strip the threads in the aluminium heater block. Be cool to see little copper sealing washers that you replace each time you swap a nozzle, not that I think it would be worth doing for anything at these pressures.
But just as easily it could be the differential thermal expansion causing it to loosen up on heat-cool cycles. At the moment I'm running what they called a "copper bimetal nozzle", the ones with the silver-coloured plating and the hardened steel insert, along with a titanium-core bimetal heat-break. Who knows, maybe I just happened to pick a bad combination of parts.

Also my co-worker occasionally blasts out clogged nozzles with a butane torch, but just recently he did so for a K1 nozzle. It would seem to me that doing so would ruin the heat-treatment on the hardened steel nozzle, and possibly cause warping or thermal shock between the dissimilar metals in the nozzle or its integrated heat-break.
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>>2981728
>I assumed tigher was always better
It isn't. Get a torque wrench calibrated to the proper torque for your setup. 3D printing supply companies stock ones specifically for this purpose.

>Also my co-worker occasionally blasts out clogged nozzles with a butane torch
This is fine for solid tungsten carbide nozzles, but can damage others. Steel heated to the point of burning out carbon residue will indeed ruin the heat treatment.
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>>2981509
Well, let's see it. What do you want modeled?
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slow going, but it's getting somewhere
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>>2981643
Definitely not. I already got several.

>>2981708
They do, or rather did. You can find an example at any given time on reddit. It's just the most common cause, a dumb user, mostly moved on to Bambu or anything with a non leakage design.
>>2981728
Rather ask why your coworker has so many clogged nozzles.
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>>2981708
If by normal you mean the default ones that are single piece with the heat break, that's because there's nowhere to leak from, the only downside to using an adapter is the possible leaks since inside the thread there's a gap when everything heats up and expands, the only way around it is with secret handshakes and tightening st a specific temperature of the heater
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>>2981730
Steel is fine unless it changes color when heated, but you don't really need that much heat to clean out plastic from a nozzle anyway, anything else can be flushed out with paint thinner or acetone
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>>2981769
>Steel is fine unless it changes color when heated
This starts at about 200C for carbon steel, with the useful tempering range extending somewhat past 300C. Carbon burns in air at around 550C. Even fully annealed steel is a lot harder and more wear-resistant than brass, but hardened steel is a lot harder than over-tempered steel. Various alloys can maintain useful hardness at higher temperatures than carbon steel, but you probably shouldn't assume that these more expensive materials were used if it's not explicitly said to be.
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>>2981749
It's only a straight single-sided part-cooling duct, but I think that should be fine. I'd put one on the other side too, but that's where my CR-touch is. Making a curved multi-sided duct in SolveSpace seems like a nightmare, this 76 element file is already taking a second or two per update. I guess I could try moving it around to fit a second blower, but being able to mount a 5015 fan flat on my mounting plate, perfectly aligned with the 15mm tall heat-sink, simplifies the design a bunch. I'll test it as is, but before that I'll need to spend a bit more time finalising the cable routing. I really don't want the solid-core wires from the hot-end flapping about in the breeze, so I'll make a clamping jig for their JST connectors. The design uses the clamping magnets as the aligning pins, solid and simple.

I'll print this in PETG to see how well it works, but I'll borrow an enclosed printer to re-print it in ABS if it's good. Either way I may put a layer of foil tape on the side facing the heater block, to block radiant heat.
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>>2981728
>aluminium heater block
alu is extremely soft, it's very easy to overtighten and fuck up the threads.

>copper bimetal nozzle
copper is also very soft but work hardens quickly when you torque it (threads) or bend it, then it gets soft again when heated, it's a balance. ideally you'd have torque specs but 3d printers are toys and the manufacturers are hobby engineers
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How do you remove glue marks from your prints? I've tried warm water, soap, and IPA, and gotten shit all. The marks are still there.
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>>2981708
>/MK8 nozzles leak all the time?
Bit of irreverent history, but somewhat relevant to the point:
Creality fixed the Mk8 by basically remaking the entire thing with some standoffs and making the ptfe go all the way down to the nozzle and remain pressed against it. The old Mk8 and Mk10 did leak quite a bit since the heatbreak could be inserrted not far enough, the nozzle when tightened would tighten against the heatblock rather than the end of the heatbreak, and since parallel threads don't seal there would be slow oozing.
I wish i was able to find a cutaway to better explain the issue.
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>>2981789
The creality model would still leak, but that was from damage to the pfte that would sit against the nozzle. people modded these with especially cut lengths of ptfe that would be pressed down with hardware.
With the early e3d's the main thing was to always make sure that there was a slight gap between the flats of the nozzle and the heatblock to ensure that the heatbreak tube was pressed against the nozzle.
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I'm trying to design a fan shroud for a thing, and I fear I might be too retarded to use openfoam. is there an alternate or should I just make use of the cheap iteration that 3d printing enables and wing it through multiple iterations?
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>>2981783
Try less aggressive glue, or none at all.
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I designed and printed a holster for my calipers but the file is a clusterfuck after multiple revisions and edits. Do I just need to reverse engineer it into a fresh Fusion file or is there a way to transfer the good bits (mostly the internal geometry, while I'd like to redo the exterior) over while losing all of the extraneous fuckups?

Side note, this was a class project and was printed in a batch on a clapped out Ender 5 that I had no control over. Gonna get my own printer soon (probably an A1) and hopefully it'll print cleaner on that.
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>>2981811
Looks cool, and depending on the way that it was designed and the program you used you could very well easily make changes to it. Fusion 360 is free for a slightly cucked version, solidworks is easily pirated, and freecad is free as in freedom beer.
I'd at least make sure that the inside is a flat shelf at these locations so the tips don't bite into the plastic and get stuck.
I'd also add a battery holder, even if I haven't had to replace the battery in mine in years.
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>>2981806
what diameter filament is that, or it is an extruded birdsnest?
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>>2981783
you don't unless you stop using glue. I have a plate that has grown it's own texture from old glue and it literally imprints into the print surface. it's just a side effect of glue stick buildup and sometimes it's texture, sometimes it looks like embedded glue. PEI is a lifesaver coming from needing a glued up plate.
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>>2981806
make creepy doll hairs
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>>2981814
I have the student version of Fusion and it's what this one was designed in, and what I'll use for the update. The internal geometry is good and the thing works well functionally, it's just that this is the 3rd iteration and the file has been through so many sketches, cuts, and extrudes that it's an absolute mess and Fusion freaks out trying to do chamfers and fillets and things like that, which I mostly want to do just to clean up the external appearance and feel.

Battery holder is an interesting idea. I'd also considered adding some kind of pocket for a 6" machinist scale. This was really designed just to take up less space in my toolbox than the factory case, though, so I can just carry that extra stuff inside it.

>>2981815
Extruded birdsnest. It was actually part of an attempt (the second failed one, in fact, the first one put steps in the prints) to print the caliper sheath >>2981811 in PETG on an old Raise3D that's clearly at the end of its useful lifespan. It printed fine for the bottom half of the print but then completely left the chat.
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>>2981825
PETG is more flexible and heat/UV resistant than PLA, but less impact resistant. For something rattling around in a toolbox, I’m not sure which I’d rather have. TPU would be the superior choice in my estimation, if you print it with a decent wall count it won’t be floppy. But 95A might struggle with that print orientation, especially on a bed-slinger.
I just throw my cheap verniers in my toolbox, and keep the digital callipers for home use.

If you plan on doing engineering prints, I’d highly recommend an enclosed core-xy over an A1.
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>>2981830
Yeah, I was split and printed both, the grey one in my photo is PLA that was printed simultaneously with the failed PETG. The main reason I was interested in PETG was its better water and oil resistance, maybe important for machine shop use. I'm a student majoring in machining so my good calipers have to come with me in the box as well. (Pic is the current setup, I also just laser cut the wood tray for the mics - and yeah, I know the standards can't stay where they are, I'm gonna print a case for them as soon as I have my own printer.)

That's a good point about the bed slinger. I'd really like an enclosed printer, especially since it's going in my garage/workshop (insulated but not directly heated, tends to be around 55-60F in the winter) but my budget is pretty limited and there aren't a whole lot of options for a printer that's enclosed, cheap, and user-friendly. I'm considering maybe a P1 since Bambu is blowing them out but I'd probably have to get it without the AMS.
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>>2981832
>imperial pliers
yuck
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>>2981822
I'm trying out my smooth plate instead of the PEI one cause I wanted a smoother finish, but the patchy, off-glass finish it's giving me cause of the glue is shit. I'll try it glue-less and hope for the best.
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>>2981832
>enclosed, cheap, and user-friendly
Sovol Zero? Centauri Carbon? Not as hand-holding as Bambu, but also not as much of a bot-net.
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>>2981844
Instead of smearing the glue around with the stick, make a sparse spread of glue stick over where you want to print (maybe 10-20% coverage). Then sprinkle a few drops of water on the build sheet, and use that to thin the glue into a liquid that you can spread into a thin, even film over the sheet. Let it dry, and you'll have a very thin, smooth layer of glue stick.
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>>2981846
Sovols are user friendly now?
t.SV08 owner
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>>2981846
The Sovol's build volume is way too small. The Centauri Carbon seems like a possible option though and it's cheap compared to the Bambus, might be worth considering. I'll have to do some research on it.
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>>2981879
The zero uses stock klipper and has a few other improvements over the SV08. Not that I own one or would recommend it to a complete noob, but the anon in question has used a 3D printer before so it would probably be ok.
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>>2981886
I'd have to check on that, but so far they are intermediate to very willing to learn in my book. Their offer is nothing but bang for buck and if you're ever in need for something close to support it became a rather small bang quickly..
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>>2980187
I have a problem that I think only has one clear answer. I've been working on a design for about six months. Posting short videos about it. Wasn't really sure how to monetize it since I only have a couple printers. I figured I would post the files for download online eventually. Anyway, a bigger channel basically copied my design and is charging around 100 dollars for a finished product. So I guess now my only option is to undercut them. What do you guys think?
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>>2981909
>What do you guys think?
Do you have a finished product?

>Posting short videos about it.
Why would you do this?
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>>2981909
Post the 3D model for free immediately out of spite, and move on to another project. Next time either go into things with a sufficiently non-trivial design to copy, or patent your design before making any public information about the design.
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printer bed is best dryer. There's no way this ends in catastrophe.
>>2981909
You can cite prior artwork and have some chatbot type up a takedown notice citing prior artwork. you can also publish the files fo' free, or upload them to cults and use their reporting system to have theirs taken down.
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>>2981915
The part cooling fan might help with drying via airflow. What are you printing?
>You can cite prior artwork
If they've patented it sure, but they're probably just selling a functional copy of his design after assuming it's in the public domain. Trying to argue that it's an exact copy and attack them on copyright grounds would likely be far more difficult. The new guys aren't charging $100 for the STL, they're selling the final product directly, so there wouldn't be anything to take down from Cults in the first place.
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>>2981920
patent!=copyright, hence the letter might be enough to dissuade at least through an informal channel. If that doesn't work then it can get costly from my limited understanding.
I needed a new drag chain end link as my current one broke again, you can see it dangling atop the print head.
The nylon I printed it out of is too soft and I reckon it'll just fall off.
I'll try polycarb next.
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>>2981920
and I was reprinting picrel mounting for a minipc and egpu in a stiffer plastic, ABS-gf core to be precise.
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>>2981920
>so there wouldn't be anything to take down from Cults in the first place.
doesn't cults enforce the physical reproduction of the files? I've seen the sale of files tiered to personal use and then at a higher level for commercial use. Maybe it was patreon. I've also seen etsy shops shut down over the use of a flexi dragon model they didn't have the rights to.
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>>2981909
>What do you guys think?
You're incompetent. How do you spend six months on a case mount? The big forum with the alien might be better suited to fish for sob points.
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>>2981871
Should I just use liquid glue?
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>>2981931
There's more than one kind of glue. The actual adhesive is what matters.
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>>2981939
for beds, there really isn't.
It's typically just pva and some solvent.
Even the famous multiple magigoo formulations are just variations in the concentration of pva.
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I'm thinking about replacing my hex heads with torx as particular fasteners run out.
I'm not autistic, I just want something different in my life.
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>>2981952
sure but an upcharge gluestick from bambu made only from beds goes on a lot smoother and clumps less than an elmers school stick that starts purple and dries clear. it's all PVA but all PVA is not created the same.
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>>2981974
i don't know why I bother trying to explain shit to bambuniggers.
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Is the ender 3 still cool?
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Are Prusa printers a meme?
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>>2981846
>>2981882
>>2981886
So I looked into the Centauri and reviews are pretty much universally bad. I know the botnet aspect of Bambu sucks but I think it's worth it for the build quality etc. For what it's worth I don't really consider myself particularly competent with printers either, the class really focused more on designing and slicing along with general printing knowledge but we only did half a dozen actual prints and we used settings we were instructed to use etc.
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>>2981952
And "liquid glue" includes things like cyanoacrylate and polyurethane that anon shouldn't put on his printer's bed. There are different kinds of PVA too (it's a category of polymers, not a specific chemical). The kind in glue stick is not the kind in wood glue, which is not the kind on lickable envelopes, which is not the kind in chewing gum. Even for FDM bed adhesives, there's also ABS slurry, which apparently wasn't the sort of thing he's looking for. And as the other anon said, glue sticks themselves come in different varieties with different performance as an FDM bed material (I prefer Kores, which has its own proprietary blend of herbs and spices).
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>>2981992
You're repeating the band name, what do you think?
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>>2981992
Mine works great and I've more than made my money back on it selling parts online. Printing stuff every few days and barely needed any maintenance over four years.
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I got promted to full time at work and will most likely be getting a small raise, should i impulse buy the p2s or wait until the summer sale, currently have a modded ender 3v2
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>>2982018
Bambu will have an anniversary sale in June.
P2S will probably be a little bit cheaper.
You can buy it now, or wait a couple of months and save $200 or so.
Depends on how badly you'd rather have it now.
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>>2982019
i mean, i dont need it now... but ive been trying to print dual filament signs on my e3v2 and it keeps fucking up on me trying to enable the custom pause at height g code
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>>2982020
I mean, I've got one myself.
It's pretty good. Questions of worth are a pretty difficult thing to answer.
Having used a couple of printers at this point, the P2S is the easiest printer to work with. "It just werks" and whatever. But, it's not like it's doing anything that you can't get an Ender to do, if you're willing to mess around with it a bit more.
But, it's definitely easier in that I can just slice something and tell it to print it, and it just does it without much issue or fuss.
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>>2981982
Ender 3 scrap parts projects are still cool.

>>2981992
Mk4s and mini, yes. Core and core L are great.

>>2982020
>>2982018
Without a definitive project on mind, i'd wait. Besides making your impulse a planned decision, some $200 savings will do great in filament.
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Thoughts on the Bambu A1?
Thinking of picking it up as a birthday gift to myself and repurposing my Ender 3 as maybe a laser engraver.
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>>2981996
Fair enough. If you explicitly don’t want a printer as a project, I can only recommend Bambu or Prusa.
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>>2981915
Straight generic polycarb ended up being soft enough to where I don't think it'll damage the cable, but stiff enough to actually function as the endchain link.
Hopefully it won't get fucked by chamber temps.
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>>2982073
why would you willingly put a rattle snake in your printer?
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>>2982046
Yeah, that's basically the consensus I've seen most places. I don't like the idea of buying the printer equivalent of ishit but end of the day I need a tool, not another hobby.
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>>2981977
Personally, I think you're just here to talk shit on Bambu owners. You don't actually care about what else goes on in the thread.
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>Core One + has a maximum chamber temperature of 55C
What the heck? They make this thing out of PLA? Also damn they’re charging $500NZ shipping.
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I have 10 printers currently going most of the time, and I think I might be running out of outlets unless maybe I run some type of UPS or battery bank. I have two sockets in the guest bedroom that are 110v and I think on a 30a circuit. The guest bedroom has 2 P2S on one outlet and on the other outlet it has an A1 mini, another P2S and an H2D which don't like to be started at all the same time. In the garage I have 3 P1S on one outlet and 2 P1S on another outlet but that outlet also charges my car.

Seems like im pretty maxed out. Cant really run any more 30a outlets from the breaker as my house is extremely difficult to run new outlets in. I almost think it might be cheaper to run battery banks until I can get a dedicated warehouse or something. I saw a youtube comment about someone running 4 printers on an eco flow delta max or something which is a big battery bank. Im guessing a UPS is probably a better deal as I could probably run 4 printers on a UPS for load balancing?
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>>2982082
There'd be a lot less shit talking on bambu, if they're users used more common sense, i.e. googling their issue once, closely followed by
>any opinion on A1, P2S, H2S? I don't know what to do with it, but looks cool

>>2982089
>laughs in euro
Did you double check your utilisation with a current clamp? What's holding you back from putting more printers next to your MCB box?
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>>2982099
That is true. I do understand your distaste for that sort. Get the same sort of people when it comes to computers and RC aircraft. Mountains of information and people asking the same questions, yet they decide to type it again. I actually have a Bambu myself, but I actually try shit before asking for help. There's no reason to help when a person won't put any effort in first. Only reason I got what I have is the fact that they're everywhere, and popularity carries certain benefits.
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>>2982099
a to the m to the p to the CLAMP - amp clamp, huh! clamp the amps, huh. get a reading up in this here bitch, huh! s' thye amp clamp, shieee
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i just paid real money for the hero me guide pdf document
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how much of a pain is using the printer itself for filament drying? I ordered a printer with heated chamber and saw someone mentioning it's something you can do
I know filament dryers are cheap as fuck but I haven't decided yet if I want the multi-spool combo box or not yet so I'm holding off on buying one.
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>>2982105
Jesus Christ, fuckhead. There's a complaint about morons unable to google their issue once literally four posts above you and yet you decide to waltz in here. Are you mentally retarded or did your mom not teach you to tie your shoes? Go kill yourself.
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>>2982105
Its doable with most common filaments, but its gonna take a long time per spool. Id say minimum 12 hrs with flipping it halfway through on a heated bed.
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>>2982105
For every minute you dry a spool in your printer, you waste a minute not printing.
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>>2982109
Thanks for heads up! Will put my filament in the oven instead.
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>>2982107
>did your mom not teach you to tie your shoes?
I assume it's ESL, but the longer i think about this, the meaner omitting “how” becomes.
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>>2982107
retard
nine times of ten when you google something stupid but technically doable you get
>try this amazing hack today, you will save money and results are indistinguishable
clickbait, people here don't have the same incentive to lie.
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>>2982110
Use the broil setting for extra efficiency.
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>>2982115
Maybe learn to twist the search engine's arm a little. We all know Jewgle will do anything to get more ad views and clicks, so dragging you off to JewTube for video ads makes sense. Start with -youtube if you want to rip that trash off. Maybe find a nice forum. They still exist and have huge amounts of data to pull from.
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>>2982105
The one big advantage you get from a dedicated filament dryer is the ability to dry your filament while printing simultaneously.
It is the best way to print some very long prints with a hygroscopic filament.
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>>2982127
And use an adblocker. Don’t give the adjew its shekels.
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Im about to design and print this in blender for a cosplay prop staff/sceptre (the "metal" parts only, the rest will be just wood, string, and an usb flame led stick).

I am worried however how can I reinforce the very thin spiral rods on the staff head because thet seem very feeble. And i also wonder what is the cheapest/simplest way of smoothing and doing the metallic finish.

Silk pla would still look to plasticky, and electroplating is out of my skill/effort-budget. Just filler primer and silvery paint? Rub and buff?
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>>2982115
>calls people retard
>can't fathom a question that's been discussed a thousand times on reddit, duet3d, VD and TFDM
You really are stupid.

>>2982131
Same here.
>How do i do X?
>Noo, not the obvious answer!
Do you people even think or do you just scroll Tiktok till the last braincells jump ship?
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>>2982131
If you can find it, Meltonian Nu-Life shoe spray in silver. I don't see it on their site anymore but a local shoe repair place might have it, or people still seem to be selling old stock on ebay. It's meant to be shoe paint but my experience was that it's hands down the best metallic paint for cosplay, looks pretty convincing and it's flexible and doesn't rub off on stuff like normal silver spray paints do.
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>>2982131
>>2982139
Actually to add to this, after a little more research it seems like there's a product called "Saphir Tenax" being marketed as a replacement for the discontinued Meltonian stuff. That might be worth a try, it does come in silver.
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>>2982115
There is an incentive to lie. People around here very much like to honor the tradition of trolling the shit out of others.
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>>2982105
>how much of a pain is using the printer itself for filament drying?
fool's errand, but with the filament box and filament that isn't nylon or pc you can make do. Decent filament dryers are sub $100 now, and gasketed boxes/aluminized bags plentiful.
I only ever do it when I'm going to be printing sub 2m prints and the bed is at 100C or hotter printing something else, and even then it's only really viable due to a large bed.
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>>2982089
what the hell do you need 10 printers for
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>>2982162
making fake posts on the internet.
We've got some retard that just likes to spam retarded questions and asinine posts for attention.
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>>2981604
Printing multi-material is useful if you're not just using it to mix colors and print flexi dragons. Being able to mix filaments is useful in functional prints and using PLA for supports is nice because it's cheap and comes off easy.
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Whats the current consensus on the best indx printer.
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>>2982162
I print increasingly large and bizzare dildos, and more printers means more speed.
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>>2982178
There are none available to consumers. INDX hasn't launched yet.
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>make a project box with an access cover.
>don't want any more hardware so model a blind clip and hole.
>forget to chamfer one side of the clip component.
>print, pull from printer, sex levels of fit on the cover.
>set it down on a table nearby. it clicks together.
I can't decide if I should drill 8 mass 38 bayonet holes and paperclip the cover off or fix my mistake and reprint.
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>>2982187
mas36*
for reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA3VsMteAxk
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>>2982178
Core One (+) is expensive, the camera sucks, and there are a few other nitpicks that makes it fall short compared to other coreXY machines. But it’s probably dead reliable, and it’s very moddable if you’re not afraid to get your hands dirty, though at that price you might be better off with a Voron or whatever. My only gripe is you’re paying for Prusa’s nextruder only to put it aside when your INDX kit eventually arrives, if they could cut a few hundred off the price tag for a headless printer that would be pretty appealing.

As far as I know, it hasn’t been officially announced to work with any other printers, meaning you’d have the same wasted toolhead issue. If you’re buying an SV08 then that’s not the best toolhead in the first place, and that’s probably a good budget option, but at that point you’re spending more on INDX with tools than on the printer. If you want to pay Sovol money, you should wait for an INDX knockoff. The induction heating is hardly necessary, there’s no reason we have to have no wires going to each toolhead considering there should be a PTFE tube on each toolhead anyhow, so there’s a cost saving measure.
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>>2982206
>so there’s a cost saving measure.
The inductive heating system only requires duplicating the heating element (a piece of steel wrapped around the filament path) for each toolhead, which is simple and cheap, and heats up / cools down in a few seconds at each toolhead change. A traditional heater with a heater block either stays hot between stops (resulting in ooze and filament degradation) or needs a minute or so to warm up at each change. It's also bulkier, allowing fewer tools than an inductive setup.
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>>2982207
Yeah, but I don’t think that’s been an issue for the U1. Keep the filament warm but maybe below melting point for frequent changes, but let it cool down more for more infrequent use like support interfaces. Use the PID parameters to optimally pre-empt the heat-up, seems like a very solvable engineering challenge. Weight and bulk isn’t really a huge issue unless you’re trying to make the fastest printer possible. I still expect induction to be somewhat more expensive.

Of course you could also make a radiant heated hot-end, but it would make the heat resistance requirements on the gantry carriage significant.
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>>2982187
>fix my mistake and reprint.
this
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>>2982089
uhhh h2s draw is about 10.2a can you run three on a 30a circuit or does it pop the breaker? as in plug 3 in one outlet and set them all to heat the bed and chamber and see if it pops.

for simple outlet multiplication you can always change a 2 gang into a 4 gang either by upgrading the wall box or with a screw in adapter. you're still on that 30a circuit tho. I had a dozen outlets in my old two car garage but of course I was only running 1 saw/vacuum/etc at a time but making more plugs on a circuit is easy.

to pull another circuit in the same room you might be able to find the room lights are in a separate circuit, probably only 20a and you need to test with the lights on to see the printer load you can add. you can switch from incandescent lights to reduce the overall draw on the circuit. obviously test with all lights on.

you can also pull another line from an adjacent room by going next to the gang box through the drywall and adding a new gang box. in other words find bedroom1 outlet on adjoining wall to bedroom2 with printers and cut into the joist space for an old work screw in box, short wire and you're on a new breaker (just don't run grandma's vacuum)

essentially you need to figure out how many printers realistically can plug in to the single 30a breaker at peak load. if you trip the breaker with 3 printers all pre heating you can either run two or keep 3 and just ensure you're not firing prints on all 3 at the same time (distributing the amp draw instead of peaking). if 3 work on the same breaker repeat with 4 until you trip the breaker and know the real limit. Also if you pull and tap from different rooms it's helpful to label the breaker to which the outlet(s) belong.

tl;dr keep plugging shit in until shit breaks then do one less thing on that circuit. be creative to find other circuits near that room.
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Got my first 3D printer and printed my first benchy. Looks fine I think?
Now I only have to actually learn how to 3D model...
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>>2982162
I run a small business. Like $44k in sales per year currently. Trying to expand.

>>2982263
I have 3 P1S running all at the same time at start and the breaker doesnt trip. At this point I think the best bet is to maybe get 2 more additional printers running on the remaining outlets and then move to a dedicated space and start looking at getting an employee. My brother has a small warehouse hes leasing thats 5min from my house. Just at a weird bottleneck right now. Growing too big for my house, but not big enough for a dedicated space or an employee. Also stuck between working full time, but not making enough to make the business full time.
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>>2982284
>Looks fine I think?
Yep. If that's one you sliced yourself (as opposed to gcode that came with you printer) then those settings should do well for that material.
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>>2982284
Pretty good. Small defects in the normal areas small defects occur.
If you want a cool experiment, try printing a few at different layer sizes and use other nozzles, if you have one. It'll help you get an idea of what level of detail is going to show up in prints, and how long it'd take to print things with certain levels of detail and all that.
A benchy is ultimately a very generalist test. It's not a very detailed model and you're not really testing the mechanical limits of the printed object either. But, it's pretty nice for showing you that the thing is putting the plastic down in the right places.
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>>2982284
3D modeling really opens up your printers capability. Once you can model you can make your own designs and even edit other peoples designs. Sometimes I borrow components from existing designs that way I don't have to model from scratch. It really saves a lot of time.

I would definitely recommend watching through a lot of videos on slant3d on youtube. Gets you in the mindset of modeling for additive. I do most of my modeling on tinkercad and its got me pretty far. Have heard plasticity is good, and i do a very tiny amount of modeling in VR. Not knowing how to 3d model really gimps the use you get out of your 3d printer. The design process gets a lot faster the better you get at it too. Used to take me hours to model simple stuff.
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Is multi material printing a meme? I've been testing it out trying to use PLA as support for PETG and it's been a total nightmare. I've never had so many issues with my AMS.
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>>2982154
why does your printer cam looks like it belongs in a SCP video
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>>2982312
It's a meme unless you have a toolchanger. You need quite a lot of purging to not impact your layer adhesion.
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So I don't print a lot of ABS. Getting some warped edges on this part along the handle. I have the bed and chamber heat ramped to the max. I think theres basically no cooling. Im also printing on a smooth plate for even better adhesion and I have a slight brim.

This is at 100% infill though, and I think thats where the issue might be. I have another printing right now where I lowered the infill to about 50% with a tri hexagon infill and a few wall loops. Im thinking this will keep the part strong enough while reducing internal stress that might be pulling the part up.

Anyone have experience with ABS and what I should maybe be changing? I almost feel like I should add a chamfer right where the part is curling but it would probably just curl past the chamfer.or pull up entirely at the ends.
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>>2982330
whats your enclosure and ventilation like?
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I think this looks sensible.
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>>2982336
Fully enclosed. No ventilation. This thing is just cooking inside of there. Pulled it off the build plate and it was just a solid chunk of hot plastic
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>>2982343
try a wide ass brim or a raft
you have the right idea with lowering infill but with some prints warping is just inevitable and you may have to get creative with orientation instead of printing flat, also sometimes less is more with bed temp as a crazy differential across the print will necessarily happen if you are cranking the heat and will usually cause warping
finally make sure you let the print cool down really slowly by just leaving the printer alone for awhile after its finished
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>>2982330
That seems like very minor warping for what it is. I've had worse warping with PLA and PETG. If you turn your bed temp up past the glass transition temp of the filament, I suspect that will help, if only because that's what fixed that happening for me with PLA and PETG. I imagine the theory behind it is something like the bottom few layers being soft enough that the warping forces just stretch them instead of ripping them off the bed. But of course a higher bed temperature might cause your adhesion to be too strong once it's cooled.

A brim is always a good idea too, of course.
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>>2982337
Pretty sure the CR-touch will fit here. I've had dogshit part cooling for a while, it will be great to actually be able to bridge. There's a magnet edition if you pay for the patreon, but apparently it falls off too easily, so I don't think I'll bother. So long as I can get a nozzle changing spanner between the ducts I should be fine.
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>>2982330
Warping after or during printing?
If you take ABS out of the hot printer straight into room temperature, it's more likely to warp given the rapid change in temperature.
It's generally better practice to let it cool down in the chamber and stay attached to the bed for as long as possible.

Warping during printing will probably be from the difference between the part closest to the bed, and the part that's being printed. Which you reduce with more chamber temperature.
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>>2982330
Fan off for the firs 3-5 layers.
Bed to 100C or 110.
What nozzle temp are you using?
Try using a skirt that is as tall as your print if all else fails.
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its always cool when companies put out offical STLs as 'merch'
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>youtuber runs a print farm
>grid infill
Yikes.
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anons, i thought i'd print myself some metric setup blocks. i printed a 2mm one as a test, and the print came up kinda weird. the edges of the block are flat and are kind of 2mm high, but the center of the block has this kind of a bulge and it goes up to 2,3mm

this is the file: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6811391/files i used the "2mm" one as a test. the printer is Longer LK4 Pro, 0.4mm nozzle, generic PLA. i can provide more info if needed.
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>>2982316
because it's the shittiest camera known to man.
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>>2982284
That benchy looks perfect. was it the presliced file or something you sliced?
Also yeah, learning cad will be the main thing that makes it a tool rather than a toy. The main thing about it is fixing peculiar problems that only you have. Sometime you can find something that fixes it on the aggregator sites, sometimes you caan find something that's close enough but requires modification, and sometimes you have to model it from the ground up.
>>2982371
>always cool when companies send out files so that redditors can print out tons of landfill.
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>>2982375
pictures.
But if your top layer is bulging you might want to tune your extrusion multipliers. with a solid infil on a part that short the tiniest error in first layer height and/or extrusion multiplier can lead to weird patters showing on the top layer. Having infill layers can fix this.
The easiest thing would be to print a 4mm sample with some infill layers, no more than 3 or 5 top layers, and possibly even try ironing.
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>>2982380
dont kid yourself, we have all printed at least one useless knick nack
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>>2982382
thanks anon. i'm not very good with taking pictures. the "border area" that looks smooth is pretty much exactly 2mm. but the center patterned one is higher by 0.2-0.3mm. i specifically opened blender and made a 10x100x2mm piece myself, and then checked the settings and the slicing in cura, and it showed the last layer at 2mm height. i don't really know what ironing even is, so can't really try it yet.
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>>2982389
Sure, but there's a difference between printing something stupid at a time and constantly "needing" current thing like funko pop clones, rainbow dragons and robot figurines.

>>2982372
Sure it wasn't rectilinear?

>>2982390
Ironing is a setting in your slicer.
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>>2982312
my h2c just werks
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>>2982312
>trying to use PLA as support for PETG
yeah no, you're doing it backwards. I use PETG as support interface for PLA all the time. I tried to switch it and shit was fucked.

It has to do with the glass temp and chamber temp but I couldn't be assed to figure it out. I'm sure you could, open the door, dial the heat in, turn up the cooling fan maybe. use only interface not full supports ofc.
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>>2982389
My waste bin is full of useless things.
I've also printed things meant for one time use, like these topcase spacers meant to prevent packzis from squishing on the ride to work the next morning.
That being said, I do print benchies or the autodesk benchmark when tuning in new filament.
I just don't find the point of a flexidragon that will be broken the first time a kid drops it or it falls off a desk, or something is placed on top of it in a bag.
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>>2982392
>Sure it wasn't rectilinear?
That would be worse
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>>2982396
What don't you like about grid and rectilinear infill?
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>tfw whole kilo and more than one day.
maybe I should check and recheck this design. make absolutely sure it's going to work.
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>>2982372
I fucking hate Gyroid dude.
>Part that is never going to see any amount of stress
>Sometimes just entirely decorative objects.
>Set it to gyroid because a youtuber said it's the best one, and now it shakes the fuck out of your printer and takes twice as long to print.
I know I can change it myself, and it's my own fault for not remembering to change the setting in the slicer. But holy fuck a random desk ornament does not need 20% gyroid infill.
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>>2982406
don't do circle holes do diamonds
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>>2982299
>>2982380
yeah that was the one that came with the printer to see if the printer isn't broken
this one is one I sliced myself
>>2982300
I wanna learn how much I can push speed mostly, I did default settings for the one I sliced and it took twice as long to print. The other one was rapid PLA but surely there's some improvement to be had.
>>2982303
I have some CAD knowledge because I used to study architecture for a bit and did some related modeling over the years, but there's a wide gap between being able to model something and being able to model something that will print nice and efficient. I am printing something I modeled right now so we'll see how it goes(a super simple cover for something I'm printing in vase mode)
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What the fuck is the point of literally anything now that this thing is coming down this year
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>>2982419
What is it?
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>>2982372
It’s better for supporting top surfaces compared to cubic. Adaptive cubic should be better but i seldom see any variation in density, maybe my parts are too small. So i leave it on gyroid.

>>2982405
At least one of them have overlapping paths.

>>2982407
It supports top surfaces well and doesn’t seem to take much longer at all. But my prints are usually 80% walls for time consumed, so for ornaments maybe it’s more significant.
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>>2982420
3d fdm printer but resin, with resin quality, but now uses injection instead
Has true multicolor now, meaning full gradient coloring (resin is just colored like normal printer), almost no resin residue (literally) and ventilation
This shit wasn't painted, it literally came out of the printer. This thing is literally 3d printer 2
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvOWv06N5h8

This stuff seems perfect except for the price. With shrinking that low it might even be printable without an enclosure, and the manufacturer doesn't mention a hardened nozzle anywhere. I know there's other manufacturers that have stated hardened nozzles aren't necessary for their graphene filaments.
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>>2982426
This shit is gonna be like $5k and prints will be purely decorative.
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>>2982429
$5k for that quality would be a steal. I have a feeling it will be many times more expensive.
>>2982419
>>2982426
link the video, I found the company but I'm seeing just some old shit
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>Why don't I print with 0.4mm nozzles more often? this looks fantastic.
>ah. right.
Maybe it's time to have a second printer dedicated to just having a .4 and not running high fiber content filaments.
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>>2982431
>>2982429
>$5k for that quality would be a steal. I have a feeling it will be many times more expensive.
1.6k euro for the full multicolor model
>link the video, I found the company but I'm seeing just some old shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80yzqtDvnds (it's in spanish tho)
My bad, yeah I'm also searching but I can't find much either, keep in mind shit's just been revealed
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>>2982432
I'm hoping I can unclog the nozzle and jsut print+glue the remaining part on.
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>>2982432
Weird Bambu
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>>2982405
Rectilinear is a meme when it comes to strength, unless it's 100%, which is a different type of meme depending on what you're printing
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>>2982424
>At least one of them have overlapping paths.
Which is usually not a problem at small nozzle sizes. And it's faster than other infill patterns which produce multi-directional shear planes. Now, what don't you like about rectilinear?
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>>2982441
>Which is usually not a problem at small nozzle sizes
Until your print fails because it gets knocked

>And it's faster than other infill patterns
It's not though
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>>2982436
>when it comes to strength
But not all prints are structural. Rectilinear provides an even support surface for top layers, so you might be able to get away with fewer than other infill patterns.

>depending on what you're printing
So it's situational, just like everything else. Why do you think it, specifically, is "a meme"?
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>>2982442
>Until your print fails because it gets knocked
I have never had this happen with rectilinear infill with a .4mm nozzle. Prusa's standard structural setting (used for mass production on their own print farm) is rectilinear infill with a .4mm nozzle.

>It's not though
>>2982441
>it's faster than other infill patterns which produce multi-directional shear planes.
Do you know what a shear plane is? It's a solid plane, which makes it suitable for carrying shear loads (something which infill is better for than perimeters in many loading configurations). Infill patterns with multi-directional shear planes include rectilinear, triangles, stars, cubic, and honeycomb, and among those, honeycomb is both the slowest and the only one which does not have overlapping paths. You can compare print times yourself controlling for maximum infill spacing (which is not the same as infill percentage). Adaptive cubic can be faster, but it's a support-optimized infill pattern which does not produce a consistent structure (and it still uses overlapping paths).
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>>2982394
I'm using it as interface only. Only time I've had clogs with this machine is when it's set to swap materials. I've managed to get one somewhat successful print, but even that failed after it was completed cause the PETG separated from itself on the same layer the PLA had been printed on on another part of the print. I'm guessing something to do with the PETG cooling too much while it was laying down the PLA?
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>>2982451
>I'm guessing something to do with the PETG cooling too much while it was laying down the PLA?
Contamination with PLA that ruins layer adhesion. Increase the purge.
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>>2982452
To what?
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>>2982396
How would it be worse? Grid is a nightmare.
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>>2982455
That depends on the printer. You gotta figure it out unless somebody with the same setup already figured it out.
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>>2982344
>>2982353
>>2982360

Switching from 100% infill solved the problem. Im at maybe 40-50% I think and no issues. Didn't really change anything from my original settings other than it not being a solid chunk of ABS. Im hoping it will still be plenty strong.
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>>2982466
Friendly reminder strength increases only marginal between 20% and 80% infill. If you're not already doing it, increase your perimeters.
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>>2982434
What's best for gluing abs? a dropper with acetone, or straight up superglue?
>>2982466
perimeters increase strength.
infill increases weight. and time. and chance of failure.
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>>2982470
>>2982475
I have a good number of perimeters, but I think now I will reduce the infill a little more and add a few more perimeters. Hopefully doesnt change the warping too much. Thanks for the help so far.
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perimeters = walls right?
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>>2982475
ABS-acetone slurry.

>>2982482
Yes.
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>>2982447
>I have never had this happen with rectilinear infill
No shit, because we're talking about grid infill
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I saw some guy testing a custom 3D printer and he found that the effective extrusion ratio (mm^3 per step) changed as a function of extrusion speed (mm^3/s), and it was somewhat significant even at conventional rapid-pla coreXY print speeds. Can this be calibrated out? It seems like setting a static value for steps/mm and for extrusion percent wouldn't be the optimal solution.
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>>2982407
i just like the word gyroid
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>>2982426
why the fuck is >>2982419
showing silicone shoes? feels like y'all are conflating some shit
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>>2982261
done.
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i dont have a 3D printer and i dont need one often enough to justify buying one, id rather just purchase my parts from 3D-printing services. today i received a part and noticed something pretty critical. i dont have any control over how my part is being printed beyond material type, color and infill density.

i have some very small holes that i want to put wood screws into. i intentionally sized the holes so that the threads bites the plastic, but the actual core of the screw doesnt push the material too hard.
the printing service automatically orients the part it thinks is best, but it ends up placing the top of my blind holes on the bed. on top of that, they always print with an outer and inner brim, which means that my holes get covered and the mouth breathing apprentice tasked with cleaning up finished prints doesnt know there are holes underneath so they stay covered. the brim also means that my rounded edges look like shit.
and because i cant adjust the wall thickness, the only way that my wood screws can bite into the plastic properly is by printing at 100% infill, which i have to pay for. i wouldve printed at 5% infill but pumped the wall thickness to like 3 or 4 layers so my screws have some material to bite into.

does anyone know a printing service that lets me adjust those things? getting a printer myself isnt really an option.
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>>2982529
I like that latch. I made a similar box a few years ago but your latch is much better.
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>>2982550
Find a printing service that isnt dogshit enough to require a brim in 2026? If it’s PLA that means a smooth PEI bed, if it’s ABS that means a heated enclosure, and maybe some care to slice the model to avoid warping. External brim is one thing, but internal brim is kinda absurd. If you can’t tell them to disable that at the very least then pick someone else. Consider MJF nylon from the Chinese.
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>>2982561
Previous design had the hatch blind within the dovetail. hence the chinese fingertrap fuckup. I might smash in the cover and end up with a tray of sorts at least.
>>2982550
What are you trying to print and in what material? What are you currently paying? Is the issue just a hymen over the holes? holes in the xy plane tend to shrink due to triangle shennanigans.
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>>2982484
>ABS-acetone slurry.
seems like effort. let's hope stolen-from-the-office superglue works.
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>>2982570
Thanks doc.
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>>2982550
finding a buddy with a 3D printer instead of sending your shit to the india of 3D printing (aka chinese)

or idk, buy a drill?
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>>2982501
I misspoke there. Replace "rectilinear" with "grid" in that section.
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>>2982502
This is well known. The usual response is to limit max extrusion speed to parameters which result in around 5% or less underextrusion. It's not just a matter of compensating for the variable flow rate, this happens when the hotend is running into its heat transfer limit. You may be able to squeeze plastic out beyond that point, but it would be cooler than specified with accompanying poor layer adhesion (though this may not matter for your specific case). On some materials, this is visible with a transition from hot (shiny) areas to cold (matte) areas depending on extrusion speed.
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>>2982580
Well I have seen algoithms that increase hot-end temperature as a function of flow-rate. Maybe that minimises the difference in volumetric flow.
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>>2982570
Superglue is brittle and has outrageously low shear strength, so its use is situational. One good use is as a plastic-safe thread locker, since most regular threadlocker damages many plastics. If you're making a mechanical glue joint, the adhesive should generally be more flexible than the materials being joined so it doesn't crack/peel as the structure flexes under load.
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>>2982581
It does, but you need an inductive hotend to respond fast enough to track that through typical movements. And there are still physical limits to a hotend's heat transfer ability.
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>>2982584
I figure it's fine to momentarily overcook the filament for short slowdowns (i.e. cornering, retraction, etc.), the main advantage is when you swap from the first slow layer to the second faster layer, and probably also for bulk bridging. The printer knows its PID values, it can figure out itself how much it can cool down and still get up to temperature before higher-speed sections. Depending on the print size and the filament, also maybe for the outermost perimiter.
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>>2982550
>getting a printer myself isnt really an option
Why? And why aren't calling or writing an email considered options?

>>2982563
>Consider MJF nylon from the Chinese.
If you're ordering more than three parts, western shops usually match on price, nevermind delivery. I like Weerg. They send you an email if your part won't properly drain, but also pull through when you decide to be a retard.
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>>2982550
I'd just print at 100% infil and drill your own holes.
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i inherited some matterhackers nylonx from work and i have a bambu p1s
how do you make printing this shit more practical? it sounds cool as hell, nylon and carbon fiber. but it doesn't stick to the bed and i read you have to dry it at 80 C for like 12 hours
my ams says 16% moisture and it's been sitting there for two days and it still doesn't stick and looks like shit.
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>>2982550
i hate giving answers like this that don't directly answer the question but if you're purchasing enough parts through a 3d printing service that will fuck your shit up when they make it for you, you should just get your own 3d printer
like even a $100 ender 3 or something idk if those are still viable these days
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>>2982601
Or just buy one full price and sell it on fb marketplace.
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>>2982610
if you want to be a shitter sure but if you needed the printer once you'll most certainly need it again
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>>2982611
You can get a used a1 mini in my area locally. Could probably use it once and sell it for $10 more than you bought it for. You are right though, you will probably need it again. Could be a jig, a little plastic peg, some type of shim or spacer, a stencil, etc etc. If you can't think of a single use for a 3d printer then its quite literally over for you going into our AI world.
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>>2982620
Meant to say you could get one for $140
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>throw on roll of PETG out of my waterproof filament tub
>stringing
>put it in my diy filament drier at 60C for two days
>just as much stringing
Fuck maybe my diy drier is just really bad for temperature distribution. The element and fan are at the top, and so is the temperature sensor, and the walls are just a plastic container with a towel wrapped around some of it. I want to make something like the iDryer, with its humidity sensing and automatically opening vent, but I doubt its fan would handle 65C+ for long, no clue how the 100C variant is supposed to manage.
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When I got my p1p I immediately installed hardened extruder gears. A print just failed with powder on the bed so I put in new extruder gears. Recalibrated flow to be sure and I had to lower the flow extrusion? It's been bad for a while then?
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>>2982634
Haven't assembled one yet, but also wanna build an idryer for my PET projects. The most annoying part is it's yet another
>Theehee, just join the discord for all the detail nitbits i didn't bother to write in the docs because i'm a retarded, russian faggot
project.
The fan seems up to the task. At least everyone seems to be critical about it and after it didn't burn down their house they forget about it. Don't ask me where he found this specific AC model. Google is an absolute bitch about showing you any alternative, including the original itself. I'd prefer a Sunon as well, but those only got up to 5W, the original runs at 14W.
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>>2982636
Oh so it’s a high temperature fan? I didn’t get into the BOM (if there is one) to tell. If it’s used at 90C it must be good enough I guess. Do you plan on making it standalone? I can’t find information on the screen and buttons at all, which I want since I don’t have a Klipper machine.

In the mean-time I think I’ll just modify my tupperware drybox to have a heating element at the bottom and a servo-controlled vent, and double walls too.
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>>2982637
It's used for blowing air into mini furnaces. Not exactly idryer requirements, but seems to be good enough. The BOM on docs is ridiculously hidden, just scroll down on printables.
>Standalone
Not sure yet, but probably not. Eventually i'd like to turn all my machines into RRF and integrate whatever dryer i use then with a neat can cable, but that's a long road yet and work and upcoming kids don't make it look like i get to that anytime soon.
In the meantime, i just hope some german autist will look it up and decides to make a neat version out of it.
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>>2982638
>i just hope some german autist will look it up and decides to make a neat version out of it
amen to that
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>>2982600
>p1s
[laughs in x1c] pass that shit bro, I'll print it
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>>2982550
alright negro, https://www.ebay.com/itm/267618470210
send files. Let me know which holes you want tight, which ones you want with extra walls, and which you want without hymens, along with which orientation you want.
Your options are ABS-CF, abs-gf, PLA-CF, straight ABS, and whatever scraps of crap I find. I will not risk a headache from petg.
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>>2982669
>the guy who can't a full part and unironically uses superglue
>skub
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>>2982676
20%gf core is really not compatible with 0.4mm nozzles, I was just too lazy to change it and got a clog mid print using the scrap spool.
Either way the entire thing is getting remade, I don't like how this model has no airflow over the backplate/ram, and I'll have to figure out a mounting for the psu.
>implying there's anything wrong with skub.
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>>2982636
>idryer
>neat version
So basically a Dry Dock with some kind of controlled lid?
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>>2982666
what's an x1c going to do differently? i have a hardened steel nozzle on it i bought just for this
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>>2982600
>>2982719
figured it out. whatever preset i thought was right to start from was way too hot. the nylonx i have prints at 260 nozzle 60 bed
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Got some glow in the dark PLA.
It glows in the dark.

So, that's cool.
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>>2982752
remember to use a hardened nozzle and to run over your prints with your car.
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the one part i dont test the fitment of in cad and it interferes blatantly with the fan
guess i am printing the shittier offset fan duct until my second fan arrives
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>>2982636
Ok I've been looking for 45 minutes and I can't find anything but an old BOM in russian, with the 7530 fan link going to an expired aliexpress page. The Printables page also just refers to a 7530 220V fan without any further details or recommended store/make. All the 7530s I'm seeing run on DC, or come with one of those shitty adjustable step-down bricks. Seems like an AC fan would be hard to control the speed of, in case that's necessary. And they've got cylindrical output ducts which are hopefully removable.
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>>2982753
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>>2982752
multi material with glow in the dark is cool. also all glow in the dark filaments are not the same, some suck and can sit in sun all day and barely glow others are bright af and nice for hours into the dark
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>>2982772
>glow in the dark isn't totally a meme, goy
>if you got a bad one, you just gotta buy more
>here are all the good brands i can name
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>>2982774
Strontium aluminate is a relatively expensive addition to filament, and manufacturers will vary run to run unless they're halfway reputable.
I think Paramount has glow pla that is decent.
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>>2982776
>pla
That isn't UV-stable though.
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>>2982767
I don't understand, how do the overhangs look so bad while the sloped top surfaces lack any layer line artefacts at all? Non-planar ironing or something like that?
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>>2982799
I'm not sure. I didn't do anything fancy with it, I just printed a default benchy to test the filament.
I was going to try printing a couple more things to see if it evens out.
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>>2982800
Pre sliced? If so, slice one with your own settings and see where you get.
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>>2982801
It was a presliced one from a USB.
I dried the filament overnight and my Nephew wanted me to print a lizard out of it. It came out pretty good.
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>>2982800
That benchy roof surface looks near mirror-like, pretty sure I can see a specular reflection of the chimney. I'd be interested enough in that to ctrl+f through the g-code file if you didn't slice it, or the default slicer settings if you did. Could you post a better picture from above the benchy?
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>>2982750
turns out i didn't figure it out for rectangular geometries on the first layer
they always peel by the second layer
which i know is from temperature difference but how is it practical to print this nylon on a headted bed with a 200 celsius difference
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>glowfren
Comfy stuff, anon. Hope he likes it.
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>>2982824
Sure, here's some benchies! (My autofocus hated this)

It's not something I've really messed about with much, I just have a couple of preset benchy files for testing new filaments I get because I'm curious how they look.
Here's the gcode:
https://limewire.com/d/eHUul#dYVUX18BJd
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>>2982823
print some black eyeballs to drop in those sockets
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how fuggered am I boys?
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>>2982851
pretty fucked
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If I'm interested in getting different hotend sizes, is it necessary to stick to the printer brand or can I go elsewhere? Bambu seem to have jacked up their prices and I'm not sure how keen I am on spending that much.
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We bully bambuniggers not enough.
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>>2982850
But of course.
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>>2982884
As long as it's compatible, it should work.
I have a cheapo 0.2 nozzle and some of the Bambu nozzles.
The 0.2 nozzle is fine, it's two-pieces, and you can wrench the nozzle out of the hotend if you really want. These are inferior to just single piece hotends as gaps between the pieces lead to poorer heat transfer.

But, if you care this much about this sort of thing, you should just suck it up and pay the premium, or look harder, I suppose.
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>>2982888
oh no please mr., don't bully my superior choice in printers, how will I survive. ywnbaw
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I'm retarded. I just can't find an always working 1st layer setup. Have do recalibrate everything it every single print.
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How likely am I to find a model for any given WH parts sheet (not necessarily 40k)? I assume Games Workshop are rather protective of their shit
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>>2982906
if you have to ask about zero
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https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5372213

Downloaded this model, each piece has a slot for a connector but it didn't come with any connectors itself. I'm still fairly new to this, what's the best way to accurately measure how to make my own?
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>>2982906
>How likely am I to find a model for any given WH parts sheet (not necessarily 40k)?
There's some pirate site for miniatures but I've no idea what it is. It's for resinbros obviously so useless to me and I've never looked into it.
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>>2982905
Do you mean adjusting bed knobs, or do you mean slicer settings? Do you have a modern PEI bed and a bed level sensor?

>>2982923
Orca slicer has a measuring tool (looks like callipers) that you can use to measure the difference between parts of a model, I expect other slicers have something similar. If it’s just a simple cylinder or cuboid, you can also make that in the slicer pretty easily, though I’d subtract a fraction of a millimetre of clearance to the dimension.

It might be a standard peg size from software like Meshmixer, or it might be designed for metal hardware for reinforcement.
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>>2982923
You can use the measuring tool depending on the slicer you are using, I'm not sure I've loaded the item in the correct slicer scaling, but it looks like it takes domino dowels. You can buy them, you could simply generate one with rounded edges.
You can try printing just one of the parts, probably the one that uses the least filment and time, and seeing if this fits. it should fit tight-ish, these things typically take some kind of glue.
https://files.catbox.moe/4khkrm.stl
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>>2982950
Hold on, I think it may be that rectangle at the bottom there
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>>2982951
Looks like it bruv.
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>>2982953
What part was that with? Swear I never saw it
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>>2982954
it's the one i uploaded viat catbox.
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>>2982955
Many thanks anon
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>>2982957
fully assembled it looks like the sword will be about 1.2 meters, which appears small compared to the image of the posted make.
I left some clearance in all dimensions to be taken up by glue, but if you scale the sword too much then the clearances will become too large and it may not works. you'll have to do some experimenting here.
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>>2982958
I'm not gonna touch it's scaling at all, for now, I'll do a test print and see how it goes, thanks for the help dude
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Im working on a product right now that comes in two halves. Identical pieces, but cannot fit on a build plate as its nearly 18 inches. Was thinking about using joinery like a dovetail or something along those lines, but I think it would take away from the look of the product. My next option is magnets and I think I could fit a pretty strong magnet in each half embedded in the plastic. Would prefer to not use any glue and have heard print pause is best to be avoided.

So my thinking is to make a cavity in the print that I can slide the magnet into. Seems like with press fit stuff I get all sorts of variation between machines, filament color, and ambient temperatures. Would worry about finishing a print and the magnet slides out or cannot even be pushed in. So my question is whether im overthinking this, or if there might be some design trick im not thinking of? Maybe have the magnet slide in through a slot and it falls into a little chamber and then plug the hole with some type of print? Any ideas?
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>>2982969
>Would prefer to not use any glue and have heard print pause is best to be avoided
Depends on your printer I think.
I have an older Anycubic and it's ok, reliable even.

The question is how secure the join needs to be and what kind of sheer or elastic stress it must resist.
The basic is just to leave a hole that a peg can be glued into but if you want it easy to dissemble then there are options.

What's your use case?
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>>2982969
Replying to myself but real quick idea and mockup I came up with. Green is the magnet and then the red is a plug. The orange is a little set screw that will be visible on the joined face. Might put a little through hole on the key/plug so the set screw can go deeper and keep the plastic wall thinner so the magnets can join better.
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>>2982969
print a test piece. unless you use loads of magnets and print your part vertically with a 0.1mm first layer for the magnet pocket membrane you will very likely be disappointed in their strength.
consider that with a .4mm nozzle the nearest you can get each magnet to each other is .8mm and that's basically miles in terms of strength loss, not to mention on a part that large.
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>>2982972
The joint isnt really necessary as the parts basically sit flat on a table. Very minimal movement which is why I think some decently sized smaller magnets would be perfect. If anything the joints are more about looks and form/function than actual mechanical strength. Two magnets joining feels a little more premium than setting two joints together.
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>>2982975
Friction fitting magnets might work but seems fallible.
Why don't you want to use glue? It would probably work?
Even if you're only gluing magnets.

Magnets inside the walls has a problem that you need to use larger ones for the field to overcome the air gap caused by the walls on both pieces.

A hole on both sides and a peg (printed or dowel or metal) is also pretty easy to do and works better for friction fit, can also be glued.
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>>2982974
I have some smaller magnets that seem like they are holding at the force i need and going through about 4mm of plastic. The magnets intend to use are maybe 8x bigger.
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>>2982977
>Magnets inside the walls has a problem that you need to use larger ones for the field to overcome the air gap caused by the walls on both pieces.
By which I mean what >>2982974 said but without their numbers.
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>>2982979
>The magnets intend to use are maybe 8x bigger
Filament is cheap, make a small test piece and judge the results for yourself.
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>>2982979
If you are concerned about a "premium" feel then magnets aren't really the way to go here. Solid chance your shit ends up misaligned no matter what you do.
You're really better off just dovetailing/gluing/pegging.
even if you get strong magnets on a part as large of that a tiny bit of force on any end will have a tendency to separate the halves.
Filament's cheap, so is printer time. Print it, try it, and toss it if it doesn't work.
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>>2982977
Glue is just a point of failure in a lot of ways and can be pretty annoying for production. Screws and friction fitting are preferred, and even the friction fitting has been problematic recently.

The hole on both sides and sliding in two pegs is a pretty good idea but theres still an opening from where I slid the magnet into.
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>>2982983
>Glue is just a point of failure in a lot of ways and can be pretty annoying for production.
lmao, what.
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>>2982969
I don't get this post, just design some self locking a joint, latching pad or screw connection? Why not press fit your parts altogether?
What's so damaging about a dovetail, but a regular gap isn't? Why magnets?
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>>2982985
>Why magnets?
Perhaps anon is a juggalo.
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>>2982937
>Do you mean adjusting bed knobs, or do you mean slicer settings? Do you have a modern PEI bed and a bed level sensor?


i Got myself a used Elegoo neptune 4 pro. He threw in some textured PEI plates and smooth ones too. currently using a textured one.
I think the problem is a combination of z-axis and probably slicer settings. I often get bad bed adhesion. First i was scared to have the nozzle to close to the bed but got better with it now.
Not sure what i can do better in the slicer settings.
The next issue i have (i think) is under extrusion. But i already did the extruder stepper calibration and even had to lower it a little.

Gotta try some of test print things when i have some time on saturday and see what happens
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>>2983007
since it's second had, you'd do well to check that the installed nozzle is the one one you're slicing for. You can also have a first layer be .3-.4 mm tall if you're concerned about running the nozzle into the bed, and use baby stepping while the first layer is printing to get it just right.
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>>2983008
>nozzle
i already replaced one old 0.4mm with a new one.

>baby stepping
did something like that. went super close. didnt sound good for nose or any other part of the machine. Got those wavy ripple pattern that is supposed to happen with overextrusion or to low z But bed adhesion was phenomenal. hat to abuse the buildplate like a rapist to get it off.
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>>2983012
if you use glue stick/magigoo/hairspray you can always soak it in warm water for a while and it'll release without damaging the plate.
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>>2983008
On a textured bed, you should be running 1.5x first layer anyway.
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I'm thinking of printing a large multi-part design, and filling the inside with expanding foam. Do you think leaving the connecting faces open(still with some dovetails/pegs/whatever) to let the foam lock in infill on both sides would make it stronger than just gluing together two self-contained parts?
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>>2983007
Hmm, I’d do both a volumetric flow / extrusion ratio test and a Z-offset test. I don’t know if Orca can do a Z-offset test itself. Also give your bed a good scrub with warm soapy water. Note that some textured beds are dogshit and others stick incredibly well, thats what my experience was. Cheap no-brand golden textured PEI was useless, while a bed meant for a K1 works brilliantly on both sides. Smooth generally sticks better but can stick too well for TPU and PETG, it should be fine for PLA. Try a bunch of different beds and see what sticks. Also double check your bed temperatures, 55-65C is what I’d recommend for PLA.

Post pictures of your symptoms.

>>2983041
Doubt there’d be much difference, foam isn’t very strong. If anything I’d have threaded rod or other hardware spanning long distances between the parts that later gets surrounded by the foam, like that 3D printed tool guy does with his concrete moulds.
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>>2982638
Couldn’t find the exact model of fan, ended up searching on digikey for a 90C Delta fan thats in stock on Ali. Was just going to change the orientation of my cheap dryer box and add a servo and an outer box, but I figure I might as well get a more professional heating element and a fan that will actually last. Then I figured I should use those nice SHT35 sensors, both inside and outside to figure out the difference in absolute humidity and thus when to open the vent. And with that I figure I might as well also measure the weight of the spool as it dries. So yeah I got feature-creeped, but I have a straightforward plan so I think it will be a finite project. Considering how stringy my prints are coming out it’s a sorely needed one, my current box just can’t be trusted to have even heat distribution to effectively dry without overcooking anything.
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>>2983043
Wait maybe I can also add a motor to rotate the spool!!!
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Would an air purifier do anything to help with the smell when printing?
I don't know if it's this specific printer or the filament I have, but there's a sort of sweetly astringent smell when I print, that seeps out of the cupboard I print in. Sometimes I can taste it.
I've only printed PLA so far so I'm not terribly concerned about getting holes in my brain or whatever, but I have pets so and family that I don't want to bother with the smell.
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>>2983049
air purifiers can't clean a fart out of a closet.
You need either ozone or activated carbon, and to filter the source (eg printer's exhaust) rather than just circlejerking the air several feet from it.
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After doing sone calibration prints and dialing in the parameters I tried to print my first TPU benchy and they all turned out like pic. Playing with some settings only seemed to make it worse.
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>>2983056
After going back to my original settings I only tuned down the printing speed for the walls, especially the outer wall and that seemed to do the trick. No upwards curling in the front with a resulting fuck up.
There are still some imperfections and some stringing, but overall I think I managed to get a respectable benchy.
It was JAYO TPU 95A filament and I dried the shit out of it beforehand.
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>>2983057
can you show it smashed?
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>>2983049
does the cupboard get warm? it might be VOC from the press board or whatever chineseum shit it's made from.
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>>2983041
expanding foam for construction is super nasty shit and will push the parts apart no matter which kind you get. it might even split them on the seams. it stains everything and is impossible to get off.

personally I'd waste the plastic to make it strong enough to stand and avoid the mess. you dont' need to to infill the whole piece, you can make it hollow with an inside and outside wall and infill for the "wall" and if you want it really strong go with ABS and don't be a pussy like the last guy and use slurry to weld the pieces.
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>>2982969
I never put magnets in the direction they work. I like a nice popsicle from zootopia shape so they slide in sideways.

this is a failed version because of magnet thickness variation but it shows the shape better. it's a glasses case. because of variation they could/should have a bump or something to keep the magnet from falling out if it's out of spec but the point is you can do a pocketed magnet without pause print. I will also occasionally print a little extra material for the purposes of heat welding with a wood burner, so a small flap is also an option.
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>>2982923
>>2982950
is it being super low poly part of the design? I would throw that shit in blender and fix it before wasting all that plastic.
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These things and the balls with the sliding slices have been in-demand with people around me enough for me to try selling them on etsy. I found a bulk deal of 4 kg of 4 different dual color silk filaments for 60 bucks, so I'm definitely thinking I could run all of these fidgets I'm seeing for 15 usd at a smooth 10. It'd make enough profit to start stock piling filament at least, but my wife seems to think I'm pricing too cheap.

Anyone who's had success with etsy got any pointers on what designs people really want to buy through the app? I feel like the dragons and everything are mostly traps for festival stands that work when people see them, but I don't know if anyone's going to go on Etsy hoping to order stuff like that explicitly.
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>>2983082
I want to try using the foam mostly to make the pieces feel less hollow when handled(think sound deadening) using it to help join pieces kinda came to me as an afterthought.
I was inspired by a dude who was using it to make 3D printed RC boat parts watertight by filling it with expanding foam. He might have used some kinda specific type of foam, I'll have to look it up.
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>>2983080
Squishing it is still kinda hard
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>>2983080
This looks more like a squished benchy
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>>2983080
Maybe this will satisfy your fetish
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>>2983080
Last one for today. Thread is full anyway
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>>2980187
I wanna try printing with weed cutter string just for shits, I know it's supposedly nylon and of course full of moisture so I thought about drying it in the oven or something, probably isn't gonna be great but I don't care
The issue is I never found the string in 1.7mm thickness, I think the closest to it I've found was 1.6 or 1.5 I think
How do I do this?
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>>2983154
Should extrude just fine, but you'll need to tell your slicer that the filament width is different, or to use a significant extrusion ratio of like 120% if not more.
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>>2983154
I'd sooner use nylon filaments as trim line than the other way around.
I can buy a whole kilo of nylon for $30, but trim line a tiny packet is already almost $10.
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>>2980265
Lol I literally have never used a dryer and everything I have prints perfectly.
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>>2983154
stick in your printer god damn it's not like it's 1.8mm and won't fit. I'd ask how fucking stupid you are but then again you're going to try to print with weed whip nylon which is putting water in your mom's minivan's gas tank "just to see". I mean it looks similar and think how much you'd save filling up with the garden hose? That's you, that's how stupid you are.
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>>2983154
https://youtu.be/XsrkFIuQEZM
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>>2983087
fuck you
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>>2983154
time is a fucking circle.
We're back to early reprap.
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Finally installed Klicky. Haven't finished macros yet, but even just the test runs show just how shitty the stock sovol inductive probe is. Thought this mess was overblown, yet i probably wasted hours on gantry levelling.

>>2983168
Sounds like a business idea.
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>>2983215
I figure inductive probes are probably fine for measuring relative height difference (bed distortion) but I’d want some way of setting a correct Z-offset for each print. Klicky or a BLtouch will do that if you can trust the distance between the probe and the nozzle to remain constant, or to compensate for thermal expansion in software. A strain gauge or piezo nozzle sensor will directly measure nozzle height, be that on the bed or on a little pad off to the side. You could even just put a little microswitch next to the bed and touch the nozzle off on that directly. On the other hand, any remnant goops of filament on the nozzle may interfere with such measurements, so for ultimate reliability you may want to heat up and scrub the nozzle, before cooling down to probe without oozing. A gantry-mounted brush could be used to clean the nozzle after a print, which would solve that problem.

But if your mainboard only has one pin for bed probing, it should be a contact sensor for both Z offset and for bed levelling. So Klicky is basically ideal.
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>>2982666
laughs in voron
you're gay
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>>2983049
ventilate it outside. no more smells, no need to filter anything. fuck the birds, they aren't real anyways.
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>>2983227
Since when do we have AI slop in 3dpg?
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>>2983190
You too.
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Are you guys getting a snap maker u1 or waiting to see what Bambu releases in response to it?
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>>2983227
Eddy current sensor is the best solution for everything. Fast, high mesh resolution, and you can use a single sensor for bed leveling and Z-axis homing, it can just microstep down until the height stops changing.
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>>2983243
nta, but I can't use the real one because btt is retarded, so I would need to buy the btt one and hope it doesn't fail after an hour like their screens or toolhead boards.
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>>2983242
bondtech indx
I'd rather pay prusa the full price for their toolchanger before buying a fucking bambu.
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>>2983245
Do you just hate China or something?
8 tools sounds really nifty, though. Only $150 more than the snap maker too.
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>>2983244
Get a Cartographer.
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>>2983246
>if you don't buy the apple of 3d printing you hate china
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>>2983242
I'll wait to see what Bambu does then compare the two directly.
I already have a P2S, so staying within the same ecosystem is nice, but not required.
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>>2983249
I think it's less that they're the Apple of 3d printing and more that every other company is fucking Linux.
Like, did people do this shit when paper printers came out? Go to every office and
>"OH YOU JUST WANT SOMETHING THAT HANDHOLDS YOU INSTEAD OF LETTING YOU CALCULATE THE EXACT PRINTHEAD PRESSURE AND CYAN/MAGENTA/YELLOW RATIO!"
Let me just make the dragon slop. Christ.
>>2983250
P2S is probably what I'd replace this flashforge with if it were to brick. Having a built-in filament dryer would be lovely.
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>>2983239
I’ll have to put “nigger” in my autistic ramblings more often if people are going to confuse them for AI

>>2983243
How does Eddy reliably measure Z offset? Wouldn’t different spring-steel plates, along with sensors and beds at varying temperatures be enough to throw 0.1mm uncertainty into the mix?
Or, how would an analogue magnetic probe like Eddy be more accurate for determining Z offset than a binary inductive probe?

>>2983245
I’d wait for what Qidi or the other china brands do. A toolchanger designed from the ground up to do engineering filaments could be worth waiting for, so could a filament-path-swapping single-extruder INDX clone. But yeah, if you want a machine that lasts, Prusa money is probably worth it. I’ll strongly consider it if they sell a Core One without me having to pay to throw out a perfectly good Nextruder.
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>>2983253
>Having a built-in filament dryer would be lovely.
Yeah, AMS 2 pretty convenient. I can't really offer much complaint for it besides that it's slightly annoying to maintain. But, it is designed in such a way that you're able to take it apart and swap parts or tubes out, rather than just getting completely bricked if something goes wrong.
I had an issue where the "First stage feeder" was broken, and I just sent them a video of it, and they basically just sent me one reply saying "Here's a new first stage feeder" and then it arrived at my door in a couple of days.

Their firmware updates are pretty nice too. Since buying this shit they've added the ability to print whilst drying and a feature that adds your RFID'd spools to a catalogue of spools you own, and subtracts how much material you've used from the 1KG to give you an estimate of how much material is left on the spool.

It's nothing you can't do with non-bambu stuff (Or a scale), but it's just nice shit to have.

This is seeming a bit like a shillpost for Bambu. So, I will say if I could afford a Prusa, I'd probably like that too and they seem really good for what they are. But, I can't justify the price of one of those.
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>>2983256
>How does Eddy reliably measure Z offset?
>>2983243
>it can just microstep down until the height stops changing.

>Wouldn’t different spring-steel plates, along with sensors and beds at varying temperatures be enough to throw 0.1mm uncertainty into the mix?
No, if everything is to temp when the bed is probed. It measures the actual z height at which the nozzle touches the bed, same as a load cell sensor. And similarly, they're vulnerable to interference from gunk stuck on the nozzle
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>>2983256
>Qidi
don't expect much from them, they've only just released the max 4 and their version of the ams, because retards kept asking about multicolor printing on those machines for some unexplainable reason.
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>>2983259
I've replaced feeders on an AMS1 during a print. The whole thing is really resiliant to restarts and shit, it makes me wonder why they're such bitches about runout switching to another spool.
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>>2983266
also the most common failure I've had is shit in the filament sensor. they also used to sell first stage feeder parts which was great but now they're just like whole feeder or fuck you.
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>>2983260
> it can just microstep down until the height stops changin
Oh, you mean until the nozzle is touching the bed? Got it, that makes sense if the sensor has that much range, nice and elegant. Though it still has the potential issue of nozzle gunk messing up your Z offset.

>to temp
It’s just the nozzle that won’t be at temp as it will be at a sub-melting temperature to prevent oozing, but I’m pretty sure firmware these days can compensate for thermal expansion of the nozzle if it’s needed.

>>2983264
Yeah apparently the Max 4 isn't that great, but their air chiller is definitely something interesting to see for future enclosures that get even hotter. I’d guess we’ll see a Qidi machine capable of printing filaments like Ultem by 2032.

Yeah it will take them a while to move on with another project, unless they’ve got parallel teams (would explain the problems with the Max 4) but I’d rather buy a mod/high-end printer from them than Creality or Elegoo. Anycubic have restored some faith in me after the Kobra X, and Sovol has probably been working on a toolchanger for longer than the other brands, but I’d still be pretty sceptical about quality.
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>>2983269
>It’s just the nozzle that won’t be at temp
Beds typically flex until they've thoroughly heat soaked. The normal startup procedure may or may not give enough time to stabilize. If it didn't, the Z offset will be incorrect for when the first layer gets laid down at some points. This isn't usually a big deal on smaller printers, but it does happen.
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>>2983270
I wonder what fast Z-hops are like with a solid milled aluminium slab for a bed? Or is that why people prefer the 2.4 to the Trident?
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>>2983256
Nigger, if you don't want to get called AI don't write an entire paragraph without any substance. Plenty of local run bots on pol yelling nigger all day.
>inb4 just my thoughts waddah waddah
Yes, you totally just invented the sexbolt Zendstop.

>>2983253
>did people do this shit when paper printers came out?
No, they watched 2d printing turn into the biggest locked down daily utility where ink may charge your second arm and your machine may stop working when not using "original filament". Nevermind "office machines" using dedicated toner cartridges making sure second hand use is almost impossible.
Everything accessible about 3d printing is done by "linux" and how do bambuniggers thank that? By being the dumbest crowd around. If their machines were indeed oh so just werking, they wouldn't ask so many stupid questions.

>>2983278
Only in terms of parts longevity. You won't break gravity on a Trident to see any changes in print quality.
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>>2983283
>if you don't want to get called AI don't write an entire paragraph without any substance
Point taken. One of my faults.

>Only in terms of parts longevity
I was thinking more oscillations and bouncing, maybe skipping steps, lead-screws would be less prone to that than belts but I could imagine the grub-screws in the lead-screws getting loose from repeated high-force movements.
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>>2983283
>No, they watched 2d printing turn into the biggest locked down daily utility where ink may charge your second arm and your machine may stop working when not using "original filament". Nevermind "office machines" using dedicated toner cartridges making sure second hand use is almost impossible.
Everything accessible about 3d printing is done by "linux" and how do bambuniggers thank that? By being the dumbest crowd around. If their machines were indeed oh so just werking, they wouldn't ask so many stupid questions.
This is a narrative that doesn't exist outside of a reddit thread. Every print stand I've been to is basically the same thing. "Oh I've got like 9 A1s running around the clock at home." And it's all Boomers producing the same sort of plastic seasonal goods that grocery stores import from China. Tech illiterates can use them.

A printer company could decide to do some real bitch shit with monopolizing filament, especially as multicolor is refined and CMYK printing becomes feasible, but that's independent from streamlining the UI. I'm also not convinced that Bambu somehow takes options away from you more than the other manufacturers. I ran into an issue where I tried doing some multicolor on my AD5X, and while batches turn out okay, if I go to print just the one figure, there's color bleed with black. This was after I googled multicolor to specifically figure out what settings to alter to make that not happen, and with some additional googling I discovered that the ad5x actually has all of its flush settings hardcoded into it. Even though it's there in Flashforge orca, the machine does not give a fuck about it.

Bambu you can literally just download a list of presets that worked for that model on your exact machine. That's worth something when you're trying to just generate product. I could've had so much more shit to sell this summer, but I had to waste a lot of time "learning" my machine.
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>>2983289
>CMYK printing becomes feasible
I was interested in this until I saw the layer heights required for proper blending. The four toolhead CMYK solution seems like baby steps. I wouldn't be shocked if we saw a four filament hotend capable of blending filament color on the fly in the future. Who am I kidding, I bet Stratasys already figured it out and patented it.
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>>2983291
Doesn't Bambu's dual nozzle machine already do something similar to that?
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>>2983285
>Point taken. One of my faults.
Fair enough. Have a good one.
>the grub-screws in the lead-screws getting loose from repeated high-force movements
Pretty much what happens and what i was referring to.
"Bouncing" is pretty much a non issue for the print itself. You can run a ratrig with a broken/none magnet inside the bed brackets till replacements arrive.

>>2983289
>This is a narrative that doesn't exist outside of a reddit thread
Look around you. This very thread.
>Some anecdotal boomer
Ok, and? My grandma uses literal linux for mails and taxes. That means every boomer knows how to use PCs and don't whine at large whenever the topic gets brought up, right?
>Flashforge
Where's the linux? Why are you bringing up windows?
>I could've had so much more shit to sell this summer, but I had to waste a lot of time "learning" my machine.
Like what? More dragon dildos?
Go be a nigger somewhere else.
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>>2983293
Do you just post shit like this as some kind of stupid stim?
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>>2983294
The fuck is that even supposed to mean? Post something 3DPG or
be a nigger somewhere else.
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>>2983299
You're completely incoherent. Someone said they thought you were AI, but that's not fair. Chat GPT isn't this retarded.
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>>2983300
You messed up following the reply chain.
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>>2983299
no he's right, doing that thing where you quote each sentence in one giant post and have a separate argument for each is for fags and makes the thread harder to follow along with
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>>2983269
>, but their air chiller is definitely something interesting
only done to appease retards that kept trying to print pla inside a heated chamber for some unexplainable reason.
most filament profiles don't even make use of it, only pla and petg.
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https://www.tomshardware.com/3d-printing/12-nozzle-3d-printer-unveiled-mova-atomform-unveils-palette-300
The nozzle wars continues.
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I just want a printer that can do interface layers.
hell, I'd be happy with a printer that would automatically sharpie on a release layer. that's all it would take for me to be happy. Just so that I don't have to insert a pause and do it myself manually.
>but hurr multicolor printing.
of all the directions this industry could've taken. God dammit.
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>>2983318
Any toolchanger, IDEX, multi-hotend, etc. printer can do interface layers without purging. You can use filament-swapping printers for interface layers if you use a lot of purge for changes.
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>>2983308
For now maybe, but as I said it seems very useful for higher chamber temperatures. I can imagine printing nylon without warping at such a high chamber temperature that heat-creep is a real problem. Or printing PLA such that it’s annealed as it prints. Or with a toolchanger, printing ABS and TPU at the same time. Or even just keeping the toolhead itself cool.

>>2983310
>H2C nozzle swapper
I sleep.

>>2983318
A sharpie runs out and needs to be deployed and retracted. But I suspect a diode laser could work too, lightly charring the top of the support interfaces. Either way it’s a pretty simple mod to your printer, I suspect you could even use the slicer itself to generate the exact g-code for the laser by making it think it’s printing a support interface with a second off-centre nozzle, though your gap might be too large.
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anyone have there printer on a cart? im going to pick up this ikea cart off FB marketplace for my future p2s
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>lib politicians are trying to ban 3D printers because "muh guns" even though they already restricted 3D printed guns
>meanwhile, we're having 2017 smartphone brand debates with 3D printers
We're fucked, aren't we?
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I got into resin printing and I think it's not the right kind of 3D for me. Even "ABS-like" resins are too brittle for small mechanical parts. It might be okay for prototyping but the shrinkage is hard to predict.

What should I look for in a used FDM printer? Or are used printers foolishness? Do I need a heated bed if I want to use ABS?
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>>2983380
>Even "ABS-like" resins are too brittle for small mechanical parts.
Get a proper engineering resin like Sirayatech Blu.

>What should I look for in a used FDM printer? Or are used printers foolishness?
Make sure it works. They can be a deal if you can deal with problems that may arise. But it's not a good idea for a first printer
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>>2983380
>Even "ABS-like" resins are too brittle for small mechanical parts
How small? FDM has lower resolution and accuracy, and ABS filament also undergoes shrinkage and warping. Proper engineering resins are worth looking into, but I've heard they are expensive.
>a used FDM printer
Not recommended, especially not as a first FDM printer. Usually people get rid of an FDM printer when it takes too much effort to get a good print out of it compared to their new printer, so you you should expect either an archaic or problematic experience, possibly both.
>Do I need a heated bed if I want to use ABS?
Yes. You almost certainly also want an enclosed chamber too, and an actively heated chamber would be my recommendation.
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>>2983380
>Do I need a heated bed if I want to use ABS?
Yes, and a heated chamber/enclosure. ~100C bed and ~70C enclosure is recommended for ABS. You can get away with less depending on what you do.
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>>2983386
>~70C enclosure is recommended for ABS.
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>>2983397
Yes, that's the standard target for Vorons and RatRigs when printing ABS, which can be achieved on those machines with a decently tight enclosure and ~100C bed.
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>>2983318
multicolor is the fucking jet tho, even if multimaterial is superior, multicolor is just practical

>>2983327
you could "easily" make a bracket for a click sharpie and extend/retract as needed with a lob gear or whatever you call it
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>>2983436
>multicolor is just practical
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>>2983385
>How small?
Like 20 mm diameter tubes with 2 mm walls for telescope eyepieces made from binocular eyepieces. 30-40 mm diameter shapes that can be inserted into shitty chinesium telescope focusers to stabilize the draw tube. I've successfully printed 0.7 mm pitch male threads but so far all my female threads have distorted profiles and don't work. I thought resin printing would let me quickly prototype eyepiece designs, but tweaking the diameters to account for shrinkage is taking longer then just manually machining from aluminum.
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>>2983447
yeah ass, when you have kids and need nametags for everything or make actual functional pieces with words, labels for organizers or just a nice inlay for a dice tray. it's like a damn sign shop in my living room. you're the shitheel who thinks the only purpose is boomer slop, don't judge me for your small mind.
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am I supposed to de-grease the build plate before every print or just after I handled the plate with my greasy paws?
just had to print something three times because of dirty build plate(and because I didn't de-grease it well enough before the second one) and I'd rather not repeat the experience
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>>2983473
I use 99% iso and wipe the plate down before every print.
And I wash it down with soap and water after the use of glue stick, or if PLA doesn’t stick that well anymore.
I guess it depends on your filament and plate material. TPU sticks like hell on my plate. I don’t even have to wipe it down after multiple prints for example.
I use a PEI plate with a little bit of texture on it.
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>>2983488
Yeah I got some isopropyl alcohol because I tried just washing the plate with soapy water and it didn't fix it, maybe I didn't scrub hard enough or something. Guess I'll just wipe it every time to be safe.
So far I've been printing with PLA and I'm cracking into PETG this week.
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>ASA-GF time
>switch to 0.6 hardened
>print looks like shit
>mhh, maybe some drying is in order
>print still looks like shit
>maybe this filament needs some extra love on extrusion rate
>realise i've been slicing with a 0.46 layer height the whole time
Jesus Christ, how did this even get in my settings? And i'm sitting here like a retard "Oh well, that looks odd". No shit, it does.
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>>2983492
Personally I didn’t “scrub” ny PEI plate.
Just gently washing it with soapy water, like some fine glass ware. Was enough for me.
Good luck
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>>2983492
>>2983511
To chime in here, when you wash a bed with soap and water, use dish soap rather than hand soap. It's a lot more aggressive at removing grease.
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What can cause stringing on the printer hardware end? Nozzle size, melt-zone length?
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>>2983532
Filament and nozzle temperature and nozzle diameter
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>>2983532
Oh, and filament retraction, or lack thereof
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Anyone have any experience with print in place designs? Working on a product, and I think I would like it to be all print in place in ABS. Toying around with maybe something like this for the hinge. Is there maybe a better design?
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speaking of, is there like a generic library of like, true and tested part designs so you don't have to reinvent the wheel or browse a hundred random designs when you want something like a good hinge or snap connector or whatever?
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>>2983534
>>2983536
Temperature and retraction settings are things you can change in software, I’m interested in the hardware side. I’ve heard that long melt zones in (super) volcano heat sinks are prone to oozing, and I expect that also makes reducing stringing via retraction more difficult. CHT nozzles and similar are also a potential factor. Part-cooling fan geometry might play a part, alongside the part cooling value set in software of course.

My current printer’s PETG and even PLA prints are pretty stringy and even have a tendency to accumulate goop on the nozzle, but I’m in the process of upgrading both the hot-end and the filament drying/storage setup, so we’ll see how much better it is after that.

>>2983543
Even fairly steep slopes like that can curl up a bit at the top, I’d change the top and bottom millimetre of the conical sections to be vertical. Filleting or chamfering the intersection of the two conical surfaces might improve print quality too.
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>>2983543
depends on the scale, but that seems like it would print perfectly in most materials that aren't oozing.
I can easily manage 0.1mm clearance on abs parts.
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>>2983543
>working on a product
>what the fuck are pivots
You don't have to larp here.
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>>2983573
>he thinks professionals are competent
NTA but lmao
you're in for a rough awakening if you ever get a job with other people
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>>2983580
If he'd be that much of a nepo, he wouldn't even bother asking.
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I'm trying to print an M10 bolt (never mind why) and it's really not going well.
Is this seam placement or something?

>PETG
>print temp 250c
>bed temp 80c
>print speed 100mm/s
>retraction on
>Z hop on
Layer height 0.11mm
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>>2983609
lower your temps. place a second bolt on the other corner of the bed.
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>>2983573
Im not a professional product designer. I design and sell my own niche products. Recently I have been thinking about outsourcing some of the design work now that I know about how long this stuff takes to design and I can make quick mockups of how it looks etc etc. This whole product should maybe take less than an hour for someone who is experienced to design. I will put $30 USD up for grabs if you or someone else wants it. I have some files to include with it, but for the most part all this model needs is a handle, this print in place hinge, a shape from one of my files, and just to be designed with 3d printing in mind.
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>why is onshape taking so fucking long to export my ST-
>oh
>that's why
I might have gone a little overboard
CAD is fun
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>>2983609
>>print temp 250c
go hotter
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>>2983653
> now that I know about how long
> less than an hour for someone
> $30 USD
fuck that's insulting and I don't even do this professionally. you're like the guy who wants to pay the electrician $15 because it only took him 20 minutes to replace your breakers. maybe go skulk on >>>/3/, those guys are truly desperate.
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elegoo ASA any good? is there a good support interface material to use with ASA?
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>>2983653
Fuck off, retard.

>>2983665
It's ok. Checks out on the lower side of "you get what you pay for". PETG does fine as ABS/ASA support.
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>>2983653
>$30 USD
kys.
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>>2983653
Ask an indian on fiverr.
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>>2983663
>>2983667
>>2983669
>>2983671
How much do yall charge then? I can see average salaries for this in the U.S. and I also know how to do the work myself. I have designed like 40 products, but I just really don't want to do this one as this one is not fun for me.
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>>2983683
>I can see average salaries for this...
You're not hiring an employee and there is almost certainly more than 20 minutes of work. It looks like 20 minutes to you because it's your design in your workspace. Also, why would anyone take average pay for side work unless they were desperate, and if they are desperate do you really want them? Just get some guy from Pakistan.
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I've been out of the loop for a while, what's good for basic cheap but decent PLA these days? I remember it used to be amazon hatchbox or esun but it looks like they've both gone up a lot.
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>>2983689
I'm still using Matterhackers PLA and really happy with the quality and price. Same with Gizmodorks PLA.
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>>2983686
Fair enough. Hiring a guy from Pakistan, but I do take average pay for work occasionally and not out of desperation. Sometimes theres a job thats not too difficult and I have nothing better to do than jerk off.
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>>2983683
If you can do it yourself, it will take less than an hour, and it’s just a one-off, quit winging and do it yourself. You’d have it done by now three times over. It’s not worth the hassle for anyone to work for less than $100 total, besides maybe a bored school kid or minwagie. Or pajeet.
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>>2983665
Elegoo is my go-to brand, I haven't really had issues with it other than the smell. It's worse than normal.
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>>2983613
>lower your temps. place a second bolt on the other corner of the bed.
So that the plastic has time to cool before the next layer?

>>2983662
>go hotter
I can't go much hotter, 260c might be the max.

I'm now being told to both go hotter and go colder, so that's perfectly clear.
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this is probably really dumb question but I had my printer for like a week
what's the correct way to figure out how much infill I need to have a flat top surface print correctly?
what I did was print a small test piece first, but when I printed a large one it clearly behaved differently over larger flat area, while the last layer was flat in the end when I checked it earlier there was more sagging on initial top layer
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>>2983702
>I'm now being told to both go hotter and go colder,
The anon telling you to go hotter was being facetious. It's obviously too hot.
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>>2983704
>what's the correct way to figure out how much infill I need to have a flat top surface print correctly?
Testing. There's a lot that contributes to it. Slicer defaults are probably fairly close though. Adjust from there if it's unsatisfactory.
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>>2983708
Fuck. Guess I'll make another test model, I'm planning to print something rather large so I don't want the entire thing to fail at the last minute even if filament is cheap.
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>>2983707
>The anon telling you to go hotter was being facetious. It's obviously too hot.
Well I didn't know that so I tried and it worked.
I did however also change part cooling at the same time so that could have been a factor but the 240c print with two bolts in opposite corners was a failure.

I'm a bit confused by it all but at least I have some parameters that work, even if I don't entirely understand why.
I'm trying it again with a different part now that was also not very good.
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>>2983704
>what's the correct way to figure out how much infill I need to have a flat top surface print correctly?
You can increase the number or thickness of top layers and also turn on ironing.
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>>2983721
>250c without part cooling.
>without part cooling
I don't know anon, maybe the part cooling had something to do with it moreso than the increase in temp?
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>>2983704
There isn't one. Best you can ever do is guesswork with a bit of intuition based on how well the plastic bridges, how many top layers you've got, how thick they are, and how much and what type of infill you've used.
Many slicers will add a layer or two at the very top of the infill section.
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>>2983727
>maybe the part cooling had something to do with it moreso than the increase in temp?
Probably but you can see what 240c with part cooling looked like.
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>>2983721
Why does your filament look like it's derived from algae?
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>>2983731
>Why does your filament look like it's derived from algae?
olive green petg
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>>2983729
what about slowing your print speed with part cooling? the 250c being better is fascinating

also a temp tower at speed and half speed might be in order at this point.
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Printed this tonk with PLA silk filament from 2021
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>>2983758
>what about slowing your print speed with part cooling? the 250c being better is fascinating
Yeah, that might help too.

>also a temp tower at speed and half speed might be in order at this point.
I think maybe part of the problem is stringing. I'm trying to print something now that's lots of little flat things and they're getting gnarly shit on their edges.
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>>2983770
Very nice looking. How many different parts is that? Are the MGs resin printed?
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>>2983721
>>2983770
you and you need to swap filament
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>>2983609
Stop using PETG. I don't know how this stupid garbage became such a meme, but it prints like ass, it's too moisture sensitive to be used outside of a desert, and it's simultaneously less stiff and more brittle than PLA.
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>>2983880
What should I use if I want something that won't warp in a hot car then? ABS?
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>>2983880
>Stop using PETG
This isn't a personal project, it's essentially work and I'm highly constrained on some parameters.

My choices are PETG and ABS and I don't know shit about ABS (and don't have any).
I also believe that my open bed printer wouldn't be ideal for ABS anyway, at a minimum I'd need to build an enclosure, right?

>>2983869
>you and you need to swap filament
Kinda but PLA isn't permitted for this project.
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>>2983883
ASA. ABS is vulnerable to sunlight. PETG prints fine if you know what you're doing and have the right setup, but a car can get hot enough to soften it.
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>>2983886
Small ABS prints can be doable on an open printer with a draught shield to mitigate warping if you compensate for shrinkage, while fibre-reinforced ABS is worth considering since it will have less of a tendency to warp. ASA is somewhat less warp-prone from what I’ve heard.
But sticking to PETG is also sensible. So is using annealed PLA if you can tame its warping and shrinkage.
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>>2983770
Nice.
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>>2983903
Did you remember to angle today?
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Is anyone looking into getting the creality M1 filament maker? Recycling sounds like an absolute nightmare, but using virgin pellets might not be so bad. Not sure how much virgin pellets cost per kg, but this maker can process 1kg an hour allegedly. Retail price is I think around $1200. If you shaved off $4 a roll and printed 8 rolls per day you would have it paid off in a little over a month. 240 rolls of filament is an absolute fuck ton to blast through though. I use maybe 60 per month.
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I'm printing PETG CF for the first time and what the fuck is going on? The walls have printed separated from the main body of the print
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>>2983923
>The walls have printed separated from the main body of the print
That seems like a slicing problem.
What's the slicer software?
Can you preview the print and check what the first layer looks like?
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>>2983926
I'm using Creality, looks absolutely fine in the preview
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>>2983929
>I'm using Creality, looks absolutely fine in the preview
Can you post a screenshot of the first layer and print path?
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>>2983923
Import the g-code into a slicer that can view it, see if it still looks fine then. It definitely looks like the g-code is missing some bits or isn't being interpreted properly, the print is otherwise too clean for it to be a printer motion issue. Maybe your slicer is outputting a bezier curve or an arc, and your printer isn't designed to be able to read those? There should be a setting to collapse those into little line segments, at least there is in Orca. Or maybe there's a firmware update to be done on the printer itself. Alternatively, maybe it split the curve into too many segments and it's overflowing the printer's lookahead buffer, though I doubt this.
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>>2983934
Bizarre. I'm using an Ender 3 pro with Sonic Pad and Creality slicer, nothing too esoteric. This is my first time printing PETG-CF (dried for 8hrs at 70°C, printed at 240°C and 80°C) - wondering if I need to crank up the nozzle temp to try for better adhesion
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>>2983935
>wondering if I need to crank up the nozzle temp to try for better adhesion
I wouldn't suspect adhesion because the failure is all in the same way.

>>2983933
Looks ok there, I agree.

Maybe rotate the parts, have a couple in different orientations and see if the failure is still uniform.
It does seem like the printhead is getting ahead of itself but it doesn't explain why the failure is so uniform.

Maybe also try printing one on much reduced print speed.
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>>2983937
Tried it again for a picture of the first two layers
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>>2983943
post preview in slicer.
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>>2983944
NTA but do you mean >>2983933?
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>>2983943
That does seem slightly related to orientation since one side is ok there.

It's going to take a bunch of trials where you vary the print/travel speeds, orientation and whatever else you can think of.
Make sure you only change one parameter at a time and slice them all together and print each trial one by one and document which parameters have which results.
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>>2983945
no i mean put the gcode back into the slicer and look at what it says its doing.
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>>2983947
Still NTA

Notepad++ has a GCode plugin that lets you edit and preview the tool path.
I've never tried to do this because Cura has a "good enough" gcode viewer but it might help.

>>2983943
If you're up to it, have a look at the first two layers and see if the error point (the points where it stops too early and proceeds to the next point) are specified in gcode or if the printer is ignoring the point and processing the next one too early.

It might be that the printer sometimes doesn't wait for the G01 command to complete before processing the next one.
It could also be that the printer or more likely sonic pad, misunderstands the print/travel speed somehow and believes that it should have completed already and is free to do the next one.

Check the firmware on the printer and pad and see if its up to date.
Check if there are parameters in sonic pad (which I know nada about) that make it less aggressive at trying to optimise print speed. It really does feel like something is being overly-hasty and needs some brakes on it.
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holy fucking shit i hate my ender 3, it can't print more than a single time without shitting the bed the next print after that; how did they design such a terrible printer
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>>2983954
isn't it just because it's so old?
get a modern printer
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>>2983954
>it can't print more than a single time without shitting the bed the next print after that
Could it be the bed coating being so worn and/or contaminated?
Give it a thorough clean and see if it makes a difference.
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How do I use 3D scans from something like the creality ferret to assist in 3D modeling? The thing I'm trying to do right now is make a skirt/gasket that will fit around the bottom of my laptop that will let me force air up into it and assist with cooling. I could probably just get the basic shape with some calipers and a measuring tape and then make it form a good seal with some adhesive foam that would snug up against the laptop, but I want to build my skills for other things later on.

Getting an accurate 3D scan of the laptop is easy, but what is the best (free or low cost) way to use that scan to design a part that fits against the object? Do I just free-hand a sketch, or is there another way?
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>>2984003
>Getting an accurate 3D scan of the laptop is easy, but what is the best (free or low cost) way to use that scan to design a part that fits against the object? Do I just free-hand a sketch, or is there another way?
There's various workflows for editing a mesh, some work better than others.
If you search on youtube for something like "modifying a mesh in blender/freecad etc" then you'll get hits.

A lot depends on what format your scan is in and what software you're familiar with. In general it should be roughly the same process as editing an STL that you downloaded.

I think mesh editing (blender) works a bit better than part design (freecad) but both are possible.
In part design I prefer to use the stl as a sketch and essentially trace from it, this ensures that the key components of my part will be compatible with the sketch I'm copying from.
Here's one example:
https://youtu.be/ix8fZG5ZpP0
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>>2984003
>now is make a skirt/gasket that will fit around the bottom of my laptop that will let me force air up into it and assist with cooling.
picrel.
import as a canvas into your prefered cad software. scale it correctly using reference points.
you've now got all the geometry you need.
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>>2983954
Obviously you didn’t upgrade your printer enough. My latest upgrade was a CR-touch and an alibay bed designed for a K1, absolutely worth doing. Earlier I converted to direct-drive and dual-Z.
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>265c nozzle
>105c bed
>40c enclosure
>100mm/s print speed
Is esun ASA+ just shit or am I still unable to nail down some good settings.
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>>2984035
40C isn't that warm, depends on the geometry and size of the print I guess. What symptoms are you getting, warping?
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>>2984003
there is a lady with like 400 $35 scanners near me, she has them on etsy and ebay. DO NOT BUY ONE they are fucking stupid as hell even to play with. primesense something or other. The USB is 2' long and the example for small is to scan a whole ass motorcycle. I thought for $35 how could I go wrong and it was very wrong. It's seriously like using a 480p camera in 2026.

If you find anything like a 3d party software that might run it please let me know.

If you don't want to measure the damn thing then try the phone software with a turn table. You need to set it up in a corner or blind hallway or something but it's better than the shit I bought.
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>>2984037
Incredibly low strength between layers, little to no warping on my prints, been playing with infill-wall overlap and see no difference.
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>>2984039
So the layers aren't fusing. If it was also warping it could just be they were warping faster than it cools, but if it's staying stable I'd guess it to be a purely temperature-based issue. Could try cranking the nozzle temp up more, or waiting for a higher chamber temp, if not both. If you have a solid hardened/stainless-steel nozzle you may well have a significantly colder nozzle temperature than the thermistor would suggest. I'd do some test prints with wildly varying layer times too, starting with something small like a 10mm diameter tower printed somewhat fast. You have part cooling fans turned off, right?
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>>2984042
Yeah no part cooling, guess I'll try upping the temp on some test prints and upping the line width.
At least the parts come out looking quite good, too bad they are useless for now
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>>2984038
>there is a lady with like 400 $35 scanners near me, she has them on etsy and ebay. DO NOT BUY ONE they are fucking stupid as hell even to play with. primesense something or other. The USB is 2' long and the example for small is to scan a whole ass motorcycle. I thought for $35 how could I go wrong and it was very wrong. It's seriously like using a 480p camera in 2026.
one of the funniest things I've read all year for some reason.
For what it's worth, even $600 scanners aren't all that good. Might as well just put reflective stickers on the geometry you need for reference and disregard most of the exported mesh.
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>>2983883
>What should I use if I want something that won't warp in a hot car then? ABS?
ABS/ASA, PC, PA, PET (no G), basically anything that isn't PLA or PETG.

>>2983886
ABS is better than PETG in every way, although it does have some tradeoffs against PLA. You want an enclosure for it, but the enclosure can be as simple as a tent made out of a blanket. You might also be able to get away with printing some fiber filled ABSes in the open if you have a hardened nozzle.
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>>2984035
>>2984039
Brass nozzle?
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>>2984070
PETG won't warp in a hot car unless it's dark coloured and has sunlight directly on it. If the air inside the car is getting up past 60C I'd be more worried about the car itself. 40C maybe, but never 60C unless maybe you live somewhere stupid hot, in which case you'd probably best invest in some sort of reflective window/car covers to stop your car from undergoing a runaway greenhouse effect. So white or painted-white PETG shouldn't ever be an issue. PETG is a dog ass plastic, but heat resistance compared to PLA and ease of printing compared to engineering plastics still makes it useful in some cases. Maybe also creep resistance, idk.
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bros, as each day passes on, i keep on getting tempted to buy the p2s, June is too far away.....
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>>2984035
The print speed alone is an indicator but it doesn’t really tell us how much filament you’re melting.
100mm/s with a .2mm nozzle and a .1mm layer height might behave differently from a .8mm nozzle with a .3mm layer height.
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>>2984073
its 40 c outside here in summer, white cars hit 80+ in the shade.
i've had ABS parts soften enough to warp
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>>2984073
My recommendation against PETG wasn't because it's particularly susceptible to sagging in a hot car (although that's still a concern if you live somewhere hot), it's because it's absolute dogshit and no one should be printing it for any reason.
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Ok I redesigned my direct extruder mount to use the part cooling ducts from the HeroMe project, because my part cooling design was shit but I'm not too fond of the HeroMe system's mounting of the heat-sink. The duct itself is held on by a 20x6x2mm rare earth magnet on each side, with one inset and the other protruding to make what should be a decently locking mount. I kinda still want to add the option for a screw or two to lock it on, but I can't find a good place to put that sort of thing.

>>2984077
>its 40 c outside here in summer
Oh ok you live in the fifth circle of hell, carry on then.

>>2984091
I think there's a compromise between the dogshit of PETG and the horseshit of trying to print ABS by roasting your mainboard and PSU by putting a cardboard box over a bedslinger. Different strokes.
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What's the best way to clean a printer that has accumulated dust everywhere, partly mixed with grease so it can't just be blown away?
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>>2984104
Iso spray fucking everywhere, wiping and then reapplying grease and lube to the moving parts.
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what's a good cheap material to fill prints with to make them heavier? ideally something that will be liquid enough before curing to flow through gyroid infill
plaster of paris or concrete get pretty hot when curing but I saw someone using those successfully, but maybe there's another option
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>>2983954
>>2983955
Get it before the libs ban 3D printers
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>>2984119
gb2/pol/
/diy/ is not for political shilling
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>>2984120
It's not a joke or some sort of political commentary. It's genuinely what they're trying to do.
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>>2984124
>elect republicans.
>still implement file control because users might print something antisemitic.
It's got bipartisan support, just like age verification. reducing it to dems vs. reps makes people miss the point.
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>>2984073
>but never 60C
can't tell if Norway or No Car
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>>2984075
if you buy it now you won't have this problem.
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>>2984091
Ok, what's so bad about it? What would you recommend for something fairly shock absorbing that isn't literal rubber?
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>>2984135
I'm not sure what you meant by "shock absorbing" but
tpu72d.
nylon.
petg if you're a fag.
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>>2984135
>>2984139
Go larp somewhere else.
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Anyone else planning to get the Anycubic Kobra X?
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>>2984143
>closed source
>proprietary parts on the filament changer
>manufacturer known for dropping support
>bedslinger
As long as printer loli doesn't mark it with a praising review, i wouldn't even think about it. If you're just new here; Anycubic is Bambu ordered of Temu.
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>>2984094
Lots of people do the ikea table enclosure for their ender3 knockoffs and I haven't heard of any of them roasting their mainboards.

>>2984135
PETG is not shock absorbing, it's as brittle as PLA. Use whatever else you want, it will be better than PETG.



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