Why is it illegal to live like this for a long as you want even when you own the goddamn land?
>>2980214because you end up like this guy.>>2969908
>>2980214AISLOP
>>2980221it's about to fall off page 10, what are you doing? you gonna bump the foot thread too?
>>2980214Because you live in a city.
>>2980214Who says it is?
>>2980232saved it just in time.
>>2980214City zoning ordinances were meant to keep niggers and trash out.
>>2980250so are board rules
Because your paper map just caught fire and burned all of your stuff and you ran back to live with your parents before the sun set.
>>2980250*Trap blacks in the poorest, employment-inaccessible parts of the city after bulldozing their middle-class neighborhoods so whites in the suburbs can get straight to the downtowns and trapping them in rentals so they can't build generational wealth.
>>2980276Did I get banned? No.
>>2980214It started long ago as an anti-homeless laws back when nobody was afraid to enforce such laws. Nowadays it's just to keep goys attached to the grid, pretending it's to protect nature all the while letting sandniggers, gypsiniggers and other homeless people living like this because actually enforcing this law against anyone except the white goy would be racism and discrimination.
>>2980727Or it's because doing shit like this doesn't actually some the real problems causing homelessness, it's just cruel "destroy the camps and keep them on the move" tactics that often cause them to lose what little they have at a time when they've already been fucked over repeatedly.
>>2980214>even when you own the goddamn landKek, you don't own anything if you pay property tax on it
>>2980735You can't force people into institutions or housing, or to move somewhere they could afford to live. The homeless corruption complex is tok strong. Oay people to be homeless or to take care of the homeless and they will make more homeless
>>2981136>You can't force people into institutions or housing, or to move somewhere they could afford to live.Most people aren't homeless because they want to be, and making housing affordable could easily be done if not for the greed of the rich.
>>2981123Full retard.
There but for the grace of God go I.I look around and I think, how close am I to those on the street? There is a huge housing shortage, housing costs are way, WAY up compared to income (renting or buying), and homeless shelters are low on the list of priorities for most places. Fuck man, the way things are going I'd be scared shitless if I had to buy in this economy. Imaging having a job, earning decent money, but health insurance, gas, food, everything is just so god damn expensive so you have to rent a place with roommates just to get a roof over your head. So many people in this country are just a few paychecks away from being on the street, AI is disrupting shit, we're involved in another war in the middle east (every 10 years for some reason), gas prices are insane, and clowns are running the circus (okay, so that hasn't changed). Its been 10 years since we finally recovered from the the last recession. We're due for another.Remember kids, have 6 months worth of cash on hand in case you get shitcanned. I wouldn't bet on unemployment or food stamps doing much for you when the next big one comes.
>>2981152You know how to get 3 million new houses on the market tomorrow? Deport 30 million illmmigrants
>>2981181Eh, you deport them and they just come right back over. Waste of money in my opinion. Its like buying Raid to kill all the cockroaches in your kitchen without cleaning up the sugar water you spilled on the floor. Take away their food supply and they will leave on their own. Put a couple of CEOs in jail for hiring illegals and fine each company a decades worth of net profits and the problem would go away faster than you can say "shareholder rebellion". Still, there's only 15 million illegals total in the US right now and you know how deep they can stake them in an apartment. We're close to 5 million behind on homes. Meanwhile, you have these corpo dickheads buying up inventory and either 'renting' at rates well above average to generate revenue, turning them into Airbnb's, or just letting it sit empty. Something like 7% of the livable housing inventory in the US is empty rentals/investment properties. That is lower than in the past but still, its sobering number when there are something like 750k homeless in the US and millions more living with their parents or roommates or what have you because nothing is affordable.
>>2981181That's the propaganda. And you fell hard for it.The reality is get it out of the hands of Private Equity.
>>2981141>don't pay taxes>state takes your house and everything in itDoesn't sound like ownership to me.
>>2981221They can also get you for not paying your income taxes, do you not own your money?
>>2981152>>2981200
>>2981224They can seize your house for not paying your income taxes. You're not convincing anyone, Moshe. All home "ownership" is is paying a substantial amount of dough for the privilege of paying the state rent money. Meanwhile, you can't do anything you want to this property you "own". Want to expand it? LOL, you have to pay the government first. Hell, if you live in town you aren't even allowed to park on your own grass.
>>2981229If you don't like it move to a country with no rules.
>>2981231>let me just move these goal posts a bit
>>2981233There were no "goal posts" to begin with, just your insanity trying to force itself on the rest of us.
>>2981234>here's how you don't actually own your home>yes, you do>gives examples>if you don't like it, leave!Weak.
I inherited an acre of land in New Hampshire. I’m gonna try to build an inconspicuous hut on the property when I visit this summer. It’s pretty heavily forested, so it should be pretty easy to conceal.
>>2981236>Herp derp derp a normal part of all modern civilized countries means you don't really own anything!You need to be 18 to post on this site.
>>2981200>jail the ceosA good start>only 15 millionThey've been saying there's 10-15.million for 20 years kid. There's probably 75 million
>>2981240Nah. Even the highest estimates from conservative groups puts the total number of foreign born people in the US at only 54 million. That *includes* people here legally.>The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is an American anti-immigration think tank. It favors far lower immigration numbers and produces analyses to further those views. The CIS was founded by historian Otis L. Graham alongside eugenicist and white nationalist John Tanton in 1985 as a spin-off of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR). It is one of a number of anti-immigration organizations founded by Tanton, along with FAIR and NumbersUSA. CIS has been involved in the creation of Project 2025. Reports published by CIS have been disputed by scholars on immigration, fact-checkers and news outlets, and immigration-research organizations. The organization had significant influence within the Trump administration, which cited the group's work to defend its immigration policies. The Southern Poverty Law Center designated CIS as a hate group with ties to the American nativist movement.Even if you can't trust the numbers of an Org founded by a eugenicist and labeled a hate group I doubt they intentionally made them *lower* than in reality.
>>2981238That's pretty cool. Do you have any pics of the land you can post? I'd dig it into the ground and yeah, truly create a fallout shelter hut. How heavily wooded? No driving path into it? ATV? Hauling supplies in?
>>2981242Is there any country in the world where it wpuld be okay to be white?
>>2981255>Literal /pol/-created troll meme
>>2981256I'll take that as a no then. Understpod
>>2981257>>2981255Okay Elon. Ain't no one on the internet cares you hurt your own feewings over some troll meme.
>>2981248I think I can’t really drive in at all. there is a part that is cleared by the power company for a utility pole. but there is a stream that goes along the road and no bridge over it. it’s too bad that it is so close to the road, but at least the property surrounding it is owned by one person and their house is quite far away, maybe about a mile or so, and is separated by pretty dense forest.
>>2981181So you want to live in the ghetto with the undeported anchor babies who now hate you?
>>2981317No we can deport the anchor babies too. Unconstitutional ass bullshit
>>2981329What's unconstitutional about it?
>>2981330Getting your sopping wet pussy on USA soil was never supposed to be a path to citizenship. That constitutional amendment was written in response to freed slaves citizenship being in doubt.
>>2981333Interesting. Why not just repeal it, if it's such a problem?
>>2981329>Unconstitutional ass bullshit>Literally in the constitution
>>2981333That's certainly the MAGA propaganda, but has zero legal/constitutional standing.
>>2981239It's more the >they can legally take 'your' property from you if you stop paying them for itIf it's never paid for, you don't own it.
>>2981352>>2981351>>2981337Oh look the results of 60 years of ussr propogandaAmerica bad Whites bad. You don't deserve to Brees. Get murdered by your superiors
>>2981370We should come out and publish the real cause of chernobyl and puton should come out and say they overcooked the brainwashing in the long march through the institution
>>2981370You will never realize that you are your own biggest problem. You can do whatever you want with your life. Immigrants, legal or illegal, have nothing to do with your problems. Wake up, or fuck off, it's your call. The actual conservatives in the US are getting tired of hearing your bullshit excuses.
>>2981377That's weird. Two immigrantscame in and voted against guns and now I can't have guns and the solution is always what globo homo wants and that white people should be dead
>>2981377The "actual conservatives" are busy counting their money and laughing at you idiots for attacking immigrants, the LGBTQ, and minorities while they make you poorer.
>>2981382Brool Story Co
>>2981396It's all just in your head bro. Never do anything when you're in power. Nothing ever happens. It's fine bro. Just a little bit more immigrants and you can have some yummy tacos
>>2981401>Herp derp derp
>>2980214it depends on the local area's ordinances because in some towns you can camp on your own land for as long as you like and in others they're full of busybodies that will rat you out.
>>2981221this is not what people have ever meant by ownership though. if not paying property tax resulting in your home being taken is a disqualifier for ownership, no one has ever, in all of civilized human history, owned their homeownership is a purely financial thing. owning something just means that you have purchased an asset, and owe no debt on it. the entire concept of ownership is a jewish thing anyways, they invented it as a way to exploit communal white society
>>2981382In my state, they voted to restrict guns when the Black Panthers told every black man to go out and get a gun. The NRA supported it. Then they had a Republican governor sign the bill into law. Funny how the narrative changes all the time but the only people that get screwed are you and me. You can have gun owning poors and you can have organized poors but you can't have both.It isn't the 'Democrats' versus the 'Republicans', my friend. It is the 'Democrats AND the Republicans' versus the 99%. They pass the laws that protect lobbying, SuperPACs, and unlimited campaign finance. They are in the pocket of corporations and the wealthy and that is on top of their mere $174,000 a year salary. Health care? They have it. Pension? You 'serve' in congress for only 5 years and you qualify. President? They get $226,300 a year for life. The Congressional Compensation Act of 1789, aka the 27th amendment took TWO HUNDRED AND THREE YEARS to pass and it is a toothless, nothing of a law. That is how driven by money they are. Anything that can hurt the gravy train is stopped, stalled, obfuscated. 'Investors' in congress out performs the stock market every year. How? Insider trading. You think we will ever see a law restricting that? Fuck no.And here you are, playing the game for them, protecting them and stirring up shit and trying to get everyone fighting each other instead of the real enemy. You think Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are on two different ends of the spectrum? They are two sides of the same coin, chuckles. They are not further apart than the thickness of a dime. They are in the pocket of your masters. No one that gets nominated for presentment is anything but a puppet. Trump, Clinton, Bush, Biden, Obama, Reagan, all of of them going all the fucking way back. Show me a 'poor' president of the USA in the last 25 years. The last 50 years. The last 100 years even. That is how long they have been pulling your strings. You gonna keep dancing?
>>2981433The solution is always globo homo yeah that's what i said
>>2981435"globo homo" is part of the distraction to keep you infighting.
>>2981462So what? We don't have a glorious communist revolution?
>>2981477No, we don't. Communism's "expansion" came to an end in the early Cold War and died when the USSR collapsed. China is the only country where a "communist" party still rules, and they were never really communists.On the other hand, retards calling anyone proposing any idea left of Reagan as "communist" is what you are engaged in.
>>2981487You have to excuse me. I had communists shoving propoganda on me for 40 yearsThen again communists are the greatest killers of communists in history so maybe they're not all bad
>>2980214Is it illegal? I lived in a fancy shed for 2 whole years in rural west-central PA and nobody gave a shit.Nothing is stopping you from giving it a shot, but keep in mind that the adventure/romance wears off eventually.
>>2981497it would seem like a rough permanent lifestyle. in my case I have a small plot of land 5 hours from my home that was nothing on it. it is a good jumping off point for fresh water fishing, skiing, hiking etc. I think there’s a sweet spot like this for people who want recreation but not the cost of officially building a cabin with state approval.
>>2981502>people who want recreation but not the cost of officially building a cabin with state approval.You're absolutely right. The people who owned hunting/recreation land around the area I was living have largely stopped (re)building cabins and instead are putting in facilities for a 5th wheel camper or medium sized RV. It makes sense.No septic tank for the state to get worked up over. No inspections required. Doesn't get taxed as a structure. You can go whole hog with electric service + well water + storage unit for toys + etc, or literally just pour a concrete/asphalt pad and call it good.I still own the "shed" and the land where I was living, and the #1 issue with having a permanent structure is that the mice are absolutely relentless. If you don't live there full time, they will find a way in, shit and piss all over everything, die, and ruin basically everything. The only way around it is to have a completely sealed metal structure like a shipping container.
>>2981526Attract some motherfucking owls. Put owl nesting boxes up in trees all around your place. Make sure you have one on each building also, if they are tall enough. Owls generally like them to be a least 10 feet off the ground. Believe it or not, bird feeders. While owls don't use them, they sometimes eat the birds that do. Make them rat/mouse proof, of course, until you get an owl in your area. A water source is also good. Find out what kind of owls live in your area and what they like. There's like 15+ species of owl that live in the USA and they all eat mice.
>>2980214I thought you could, what are the rules against it? Isn't that the idea behind tiny homes, since below a certain sq ft they don't qualify as houses
>>2981139>Most people aren't homeless because they want to be,They picked up a guy sleeping on the street last year in Seattle. Looked his name up and found that they had moved him into a subsidized apartment earlier.>I like sleeping on the street.
>>2981727You want mole people? 'Cause that is how you get mole people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mole_peopleThe homeless people you see on the streets are the 'problem' ones or the ones that have truly lost it all and are not smart/healthy enough to hide. No friends, no family, no shelter at all. They are the tip of the iceberg. There are people living in an RVs, living in their car, sleeping at work, couch surfing, or squatting that want and need the help too. They aren't as visible and often don't get the help they need because they aren't getting swept up by cops nearly as much.That isn't even counting situations where you have extended families crammed into housing that is much to small for them or families doubling up. Both of which is very common among immigrants, legal and illegal, and the working poor. In 2021, US public schools counted 1.1 million students as homeless with 76% of them “doubled up” with other families. That still leaves 24% of them without a home at all.Shit man, we can't even handle the problem ones. What's left for the ones you don't see? Imagine having a job and still being homeless. Or being homeless and still having to go to school, getting 'homework' every day. Fuck. Remember the Morlocks from H. G. Well's The Time Machine? They were the were the descendants of the working poor. They took the Eat the Rich slogan to heart.
>>2980331Go back to pol.
>>2981809Mad about the truth, /pol/tard?
because of f yiu shit and piss mainly. When you live like this, you effect other people. Its basically an extension of the golden rule. Stop being a loser.
>>2980331employment is inaccessable because businesses get robbed thereand the middle class black neighborhood got bulldozed because there were no middle class blacks leftthere's barely any middle class whites anymore
>>2980331Excuses, endless excuses.
>>2981973>>2982050>Blaming the end result as the cause
Ironically because of too much freedom. Since you gave democracy hoas get to dictate on a micro scale. Anarcho tyranny and such. If there was less freedom itd be too inefficient for anarcho tyranny.
>>2980214because youre driving down your boomers property value
>>2982193boomer neighbor's*
>>2980243Child Protective Services
>>2980214Buy an rural acreage and you can live however you like. I don't mean 5 acres I mean wooded with 100+ acres where you're not visible from the street or neighbours.You'll still have to deal with crackheads and natives though. I have a rural acreage in buttfuck nowhere that I don't live on and someone still broke into my shipping container.
>>2980214because you live in a dystopian shitholeyou can live as you like if you own the land where i live
>>2980378Don't worry. We already reported your posts :)
>>2981231just accept you got BTFO
>>2981248>I'd dig it into the ground and yeah, truly create a fallout shelter hut.A "hut" wouldn't survive the nuclear holocaust.
>>2981317>the undeported anchor babies who now hate you?they always hated you. their parents came over with nothing, and the kids grew up envying natives who had plenty.
>>2983442That's okay. I reported several homeless encampments. :)
>>2983456https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHwpS0LakeU
>>2981428>no one has ever, in all of civilized human history, owned their homethis is the most jewish thing I think I've ever read on this entire website in multiple decades.
>>2984065>If a band of nomads can just come and seize your home, did you really ever own it?
>>2981367Correct. This other guy is a moron. Abolish property tax. You can’t own your property if it can never be paid for.
>>2981428If you own something you own it paid in full. If you have to keep paying for it forever or men with guns will forcibly take it you don’t own it. You are renting. Are you really this dumb?
>>2984086>>2984087>Retards think property tax is a rent and not your contribution to the community for being a landowner
>>2984132You still haven’t addressed the point, because you can’t. If you have to perpetually pay for something you don’t own said thing. You are renting it. Go ahead and prove me wrong, retard.
Why hasn’t this /pol/ thread been deleted yet? Fuck outta here.
>>2984150>Wanking over a bullshit lolbertarian whinge
>>2980214because if youre too lazy to dig underground where you wont be seen, youre certainely too lazy to pick up your own shit and not pollute the water table for everyone else
>>2984086it can be paid for though. you own the property plus assets that cover the tax. it's really not that hard to come up with a few grand a year...what are you poor? also, there are ways properties can be tax exempt, but youre retarded its ok
>>2984132If you own the property rather than the community owning it, then why do you owe them for using your own property, commie? By your logic where you constantly owe everyone else for your own property, why not pay infinitely recurring taxes for all your clothes and appliances and tools and electronics and other property too?
