This is the longest I've ever held a job, and I actually enjoy it for the most part. But I asked for a raise at my three month mark, and the GC basically told me I'm too incompetent and replaceable to deserve a raise. I took it to heart, and ended up blowing off the next workday because I was so drunk. I guess I sort of assumed I could find another job, but they were all too far away (even if they paid more), so I came crawling back.Apparently my 12AM text woke him up, and that's mainly why he said "my respect for you went from here '-' to here '_', but instead of firing me he just transferred me to HVAC. I don't think he hates me, he just doesn't want to deal with me anymore. Apparently I'm "doing a good job" in HVAC as a total beginner (although it was recommended I apply more deodorant). But I'm still capped at 15 an hour. And I had a conversation with the GC today, about what economic value there actually is in bringing a new helper onto the crew (when it's been a three man job as long as I've been there), and he called it a 'mind-boggling question'. As in, it's a waste of time to ponder the systems and frameworks behind all of this in an economic sense.I would chalk it up to 'neurodivergence', but then again, it seems like just about every coworker I have is always talking about their "ADHD" or "dyslexia". The designer is literally a diagnosed sperg and it shows.It still feels like a hostile work environment to a degree, but I'm just grateful to have stable income. From what I understand, autonomy and efficiency are what's most valued on a jobsite, and I guess that's basically the reason they told me I'm not eligible for a raise. But the GC also said that "we don't discuss wages here" and the HVAC guy said "I'll let you know when you get a raise, don't ask", which seems like a red flag desu.Call me a faggot or a retard or whatever, thanks for reading my blogpost.
>>2983501This is how it is in the trades. Nobody is gonna pay you any more than the day they met you. Raises are for office workers.What you’re really getting is experience. Your value is effectively min wage + $1/hr per year you’ve been working. 10 years of experience gets you $20/hr with a $10 min wage.
try fewer words next time
>>2983501I would say you're being a faggot, but you need to reflect on "why." These people have lives and jobs to run. You need to make those easier for them. You're very focused on the meta (what are people thinking, how do employees move up, where's money going, etc), and that's something you'll only develop with experience and some practice on your own when you're competent to fly solo. It's far too early and it's detrimental to think about that. Right now, you need to focus on learning a trade and learning to be personable with your crew and customers. Be clean. Dress right. Own the right tools and be organized. Learn the fine details of your trade and nearby trades. Have humor but don't be too funny. High energy nerds should do less, always. If you do a whole bunch, but it's not 100% then your boss has to correct and redo it all. Don't do things in a way that they're ever slightly wrong. Just be immaculate, then they'll have to compete other companies for you. It takes time. hvac is kind of a blessing. You're getting your foot in the door to a trade with earning potential. There's a lot to learn. You'll be able to be autonomous without breaking your back, running crews and subs, or begging for raises the way you are now for an entire career. I would say run it until you get a full-time apprenticeship. Supplement with some courses.
I absolutely hate working with guys like you
>>2983510See you tomorrow chris :)
>>2983519Ironic because Chris is the name of a fucktard at my company>first day on a site>walks over to the journeyman>"Do you know how hard it is to get cum out of a fursuit?"
>>2983520>"Do you know how hard it is to get cum out of a fursuit?"That never happened you larping fagI did kek though
american work culture is funny. well, it's funny to me, sad for you.
>>2983501You asked for a raise after 3 months, with no experience, am I reading this right?
>>2983501>three months on the job>already asking for a raiseyou don't belong on the job site.
>>2983568bootlicking wagecuck or boss that sits in his truck all day, call it
>>2983660Even at McDonald's it takes 6 months just to figure out if you're going to show up more than half the time. Asking for a raise at 3 months is unrealYou need a new job because he already thinks you're a piece of shit, not because he's a bad a boss
>>2983666>satan tripsliterally didnt read this redditspacing gaylord
Sage>>2983668>reddit spaceReddit does three CR because their faggy ass board used to eat the first one. People have been doing 2 since email existed. You're fucking dumb to think it's a reddit thingChoke on a dick. Get out of the poop, faggot.
>>2983568>>2983554femanons, this is why you make 85 cents to the man's dollar.
dude wtf. unless you're one of the guys your boss actually needs to talk to just put your head down and work and don't bother him.
maybe don't do random no call no shows>>2983666asking for a raise right away as a laborer is not unreal...Thought I assume Op is a clown who doesn't have a drivers license and needs to be watched 24/7
>>2983660you literally don't have enough experience to be demanding raises, retard.
>>2983692Maybe if you're a welder or pipefitter and an old hand and tell the boss to hire you for $20/hour for the first week and put you on $60/hour after a week because you.know you're hot shit and will bust out jobs. But you agree to that before you even get the job. You don't accept a wage and come back a couple days later and be like 'um actually more please'You are still the new guy. You showed up not even yesterday to these guys, you showed up this morning
We usually start people at the lowest end for a 6 month probationary period and then bump them up after that if they make it that far. All in the employment contract/offer
>>2983744There are dumb chuds out there, getting raises you don't think they deserve, simply because they asked. These unwrittten rules of yours do not actually exist, are you just making excuses for your own passivity?
what a bunch of boomer mindbroke niggerfaggotsit was sop for years to have a 90 day review and pay bump at every job and anybody that says otherwise is full of shitbut this is a b8 thread so nevermind
Trades/construction is fucked, always. Sometimes there are decent guys in there but it doesn't matter, every company or general contractor is a fucking parasite that has to compete on being more parasitic than the others to survive. They don't have a choice. They chew people up and replace them like dull blades, never bothering to sharpen them because it's faster to just throw away the old shit and buy a new one. That's why they act like every job is life or death, I've had a few unironically ask me to jog from place to place on the job site instead of walking. Like dude, not my problem you massively underbid this contract.The work itself is fun, but the corporate nature makes it insufferable. Best to keep these things as a hobby and gtfo of the industry, it's not gonna get any better. They're gonna keep importing poor brown faggots and threatening them with deportation unless they work for $5/h which drives down wages and expectations for everyone
>>2983501>ask for raise after 3 months of on the job training>no call no show>drunk>body odorYep, you really are meant for construction work.
>>2983845the "chuds" you're imagining are those who work fake email jobs in the office.
>>2983501>But the GC also said that "we don't discuss wages here" if you live in a one party recording consent state, get him on audio saying this then talk to a jew lawyer who will work on contingency.
