There is a retard making graffiti in my area and I'm tired of seen it. I called the city services and they are useless, they only cleaned a couple of them and did a piss ass job. No one does anything and I'm tired, I want to do something good, but I don't want to damage the buildings. The motherfucker painted bricks, marble, plastic, stone and basically most materials you can think off and you can't treat them the same way.Also if you know some way I could catch him and give him a scare. I think he goes graffiti around night-morning because I hear loud music around that time but I'm not sure and I want to catch him red handed.
>>2988348Collect some feral dogs (with food) and keep them fed so they hang around the area.
>>2988352I don't live in a third world country (yet) but I'm seeing the degradation in my neighborhood and I want to fight back. My question was more about tips and tricks for removing graffiti, what materials do I need, etc.
>>2988354>what materials do I needThe internets is saying "World's Best Graffiti Remover" and "Elephant Snot" depending on the surface type, followed by a pressure washer. Apply the solvent a few times over a 15 minute period before washing it.
>>2988348Get some cheap light-gray latex paint and a big paint brush. Latex is water based and so won't harm anything. Every 15 minutes you spend paints over 2 hours of his graffiti. He'll get tired of this and move on.
Removing spray paint from rough masonry surfaces like concrete, brick, stucco, etc. is damn near impossible. And trying to remove it from a painted surface is just going to fuck the paint and require repainting. So in the end, it's way easier and faster to just paint over graffiti than to try and remove it.
>>2988348In the next few days, I'm going to pull off a major heist (Remember SABER in Los Angeles? lol). Nobody can stop me.
>>2988348fresh paint.
>>2988379>SABERhis finest work lol
>>2988348>I called the city services and they are uselessBear in mind that the cops/city may just be collecting "evidence" until it reaches a certain $ threshold, and then they can charge them with felony instead of a misdemeanour.Even if you decide to resolve it yourself, keep pestering the city with photographs so they gradually pile up more and more evidence.
I'm glad for your advice, but honestly I was expecting someone here with experience dealing with graffiti. I don't want to paint over it I want to try to remove it, I've seen videos on YouTube where they remove paintings even on bricks, but dunno if that's false advertisement or if there are different kinds of graffiti and not all works with it.
at least put up a security camera if it keeps happening.
>>2988348put cameras, get the little shit ang give him a good beatingif the graffiti issue continues, repeat the beating partit's called prevention
>>2988492Snare the bastard and enslave/sell it. It's probably an 'undocumented' so nobody will even notice.
>>2988348Waaay back when I lived in a Los Angeles burb, some kids started tagging an electrical box on the corner. Repainting the box just gave them a blank canvas to do it again.I knew an artist at the time so we took a different approach and just added pink sparkles and hearts to the existing tags, plus 'trans rights' and a little rainbow. Stayed like that for a few days, then "someone" splashed gray paint over the whole thing. City finally repainted & it stayed unmarked for a few months.
>>2988348Bro, why are you ready to die on this hill and get confrontational over someone else's property in a society that doesn't give a fuck? Your morals are right but sooner or later you will have to accept that these morals are to be applied to your closest people, not society in general. You can either paint your own stuff on the dude's graffiti to troll him, cover it like>>2988360said and win the war of attrition, or like, physically hurt the guy. Reporting him to the police is useless, you'd have to record him doing the deed plus capture his face/features/car plates to prove it was him. You might never get the chance to get all that without spending too much effort or time on it. So effective solutions are to either stop caring or become a bigger menace than the guy.
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>>2988534I want to still try. I want to still clean it. Again, I'm asking for tricks and materials and advice to clean graffiti from different surfaces. The only one that even tried to write the bare minimum was>>2988356Me planting cameras and giving a beating to the dude making graffiti is another story.
>>2988543Do you even own a pressure washer?
>>2988543Anti-graffiti coating would make future removal much easier.
>>2988546Yes>>2988560What's that
>>2988543Okay, my best advice would be to try chlorinated rubber thinner. It's used to clean paint brushes and I used it to remove my own graffiti off the wall but it didn't come off perfect mainly because the surface was very coarse and it would shred anything I would wipe the wall with. Your wall is like that also, probably, so you'd need to buy a pressure washer or apply solvent first and then use pressure washer (wear some protective gear in that case because you can get splashed with solvent)
>>2988543>excuse after excusewell, you can always whine about it on 4chan i guess
>>2988360This. Took four tag and paint over cycles before the asshole that was tagging our building to move on somewhere else. Once he stopped, we color matched the wall to restore it to it's normal state but during the "war", we used cheap white paint from a five gallon drum.
>>2988348We had a guy who was tagging his moniker "Eager" all over eveything. People said, "What do?"My suggestion: just add "supports Trump in 2028"
>>2988585You should've just changed it to NEager.
>>2988348Impressive that (so many) decades later, still no one knows any better than scrapping grafittis off walls.It was probably in the fucking 90s, if not earlier that french KF Siceront came up with an anti-grafitti coating (both gloss and matt finishes), with which you can just rinse grafittis right off.
>>2988560>FutureHoly fucking kek>>2988630
>>2988630>Fucking niggerworld...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-graffiti_coating
>>2988630>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-graffiti_coatingCouldn't you just coat the surface with silicone lubricant spray? That shit will make paint fish-eye like crazy...
Is there a graffiti remover with time release? Asking for public appropriated artwork such as anthropomorphs dancing with children, obese blind melon men, and other thought crimes.
>>2988682Chalk
>>2988348Start graffiting over his tag with some remark on his style, or append something slandering to it.If he has a tag start posting flyers with "ATTENTION [photo of the tag] is a registered pedophile, if you see this graffiti on your street your children might be in danger, don't let them hang around unattended".Hire a graffiti artist and make him cover the tags with some nice graffiti artwork.Stop caring.So many options.
>>2988712>append something slandering to it.A simple "IS GAY" after the tag might do the trick nicely.
i worked for a property management company. what you describe is hard to get off.There's a product called elephant snotfollow the directionsbrush it on thick, wait an hour, pressure washeryes, it and the whole process is intensive and expensive. i learned of it perusing graveyard and monument forums
>>2988348spray paint a black line through every single tag will hurt their ego's waaayyyyyy more than buffing
1 - Paint over the graffiti.2 - Wait for them to come back.3 - Shoot them.
Personally I would wait for the "artist" in the bushes with a baseball bat.
>>2989193>3 - Shoot them.you'll be arrested and charged with murder.
>>2988360As a retired graffiti writer, this is the answer. But use a roller, keep it over saturated when youre done and wrap it tight in plastic, so you never have to replace it. Get your paint from a habitat for humanity, or ask a local painter if they have leftover.
>>2989846Only if someone finds out...
>>2989862It's extremely difficult to get away with shooting and killing a member of a graffiti gang.
>>2990119Why do you say that? They kill each other quite often. It's a territorial thing. Whould anyone even notice? Or care?
>>2990120The police would care because a homicide is a homicide, regardless of who did it.
>>2990121Eh, 50% of murders don't get 'solved.' In this case, 'solved' means the cops have a suspect and they are pretty sure they are guilty. These same cops are pretty sure a little man lives in the refrigerator and turns the light off for you when you close the door because of a documentary they saw when they were kids. Picture related. They hand everything over to the District Attorney, who might decide there is not enough evidence to go to trail, regardless of how guilty you might be, and leave it at that. Maybe the DA does think there is a case but the grand jury is like, nah brah, this is crap, and refuse to issue an indictment. But maybe they do and a case is filed. So, then you get a good lawyer and they are able to get the case thrown out for some reason. But maybe, maybe, the case is more solid than your lawyer can crack so it goes to trial. Now, if the prosecution is overworked, underpaid, and you kinda did them a favor getting a gang banger off the streets they might just plead it out for a lesser sentence. It ends in a win for them, frees up their calendar, and you promised to be a good boy from now on so its fine. Or maybe they are overworked, underpaid, and fuck it up so the jury lets you off free as a bird. All of this is more likely to happen then you actually going to prison for murder.Or maybe you are poor, ethnic, or stupid and actually go to jail for the crime you committed. I mean, you live someplace that gets graffitied a lot, has shit city cervices, can't afford to hire someone to fix it, and are asking 4Chan basically 'how does paint work?' Probably best not to chance it.Solution: >>2989849 Absolutely this. It will be a war of attrition but you will win more battles than you lose. Actual graffiti artists will leave you alone because of the time sink. You will be left with 'taggers'. These little shits are fucking scum but respond well to peppy spray. Catch a few and they will stop.
>>2988348Paint over it. Keep an eye out for free paint on craigslist. You can always mix different batches to get the color you need.
>>2990126you're willing to condemn someone to death (not personally kill, because you're a faggot) for random graffiti, why are you even trying to debate this with paragraph of made up scenarios? It's obvious you lack healthy contact with society if you're so vengeful and smartassy.
>>2990126If a white business owner shoots a black graffitt artist, the white man is going to jail. Full stop.
>>2990181Where did I advocate for killing people? Was it when I said "Probably best not to chance it", when I said that taggers "respond well to pepper spray", or was there some other text your schizophrenic hallucinations generated that you want to share with the class? Or maybe you just couldn't make it to the end of what I wrote? Either way, lighten the fuck up. While based on actual crime statistics I thought that including a fucking Tex Avery cartoon and the general jokey nature of much of the text would clue you in that it is satire. Go back to being outraged on Twitter. This is fucking 4chan for christ sake. Give your balls a tug.>>2990206Eh, I doubt that. 52% of black homicides in the US don't even generate an arrest, let alone a conviction. While some of that is the police being unable to locate the suspect most of it is simply they have no idea who did it at all. I suspect that, while white on black murders are quite rare in the US, the white folks are probably better at getting away with it. Better education, resources, and general IQ levels likely account for that. That said, I wasn't able to find any actual numbers to back that up. The FBI doesn't appear to gather clearance rate data based on the races of both the murderer and murderee. Stands to reason though. In every other outcome they appear to do better.
>>2990181you're willing to condemn someone to death (not personally kill, because you're a faggot) for random graffiti,The US Constitution defends each persons right to life, liberty and property. It does not prioritize one above another.Foreign countries may be different, as the peasants are all considered property of a king or lord. As such, their lives may be valued differently.
>>2990245>The FBI doesn't appear to gather clearance rate data based on the racesThe FBI only gathers the data. Local and state PDs clear the cases. And if the blue state government tells them to stand down for black on black violence, the FBI knows nothing*.*A bit different here in Seattle. We just came off a DoJ consent decree. And in this case, the FBI was counting.
>>2990181Anyone low enough to vandalize or steal someone else's property is a detriment to society and should be culled from the herd.
>>2988360yo, if he can not brag to his friends about his crimes he will move on to somewhere that he can brag, graffiti is about impressing other dudes, when i was young i maintained fountains for my hoa there were certain weeks you could expect them to drop soap in there so you just put in an anit bubble fluid roughly if you could get it in 24 hours it would be months but if it took 72 hours you could expect about a month of it happening again and again. vandalism is often about impressing other men.
>>2990245>This is fucking 4chan for christ sakeyou're too cringe even for this place
>>2990262street art and thievery are human nature, your feelings aren't more important than that. You probably shouldn't even talk like you have some kind of moral high ground over an ordinary thief, since a thief isn't afraid to break the community guidelines in order to provide for his circle so he's more in touch with how things work while you're deluding yourself to the point where murder is justified to upkeep your utopia
>>2990302Nice bait faglord. Throw people that litter into the woodchipper along with the thieves, vandals, and rapists too.
>>2990245If a black guy defaces a white business owner's property with graffiti, and the white man goes out and shoots the black guy, the white guy is going to jail; he's not getting away with it.
>>2990350I'm sorry, I guess I am not smart enough to explain it to you in a way you will understand. Good day.
>>2990302>provide for his circleBuying meth/fent/40 isn't providing anything to anyone.
>>2990360What is 40?
>>29903712.5 pints of delicious malt liquor
>>2990307thieves, vandals and rapists are out there doing their thing in spite of all risks, while you're sitting in your house, wishing them death on 4chan of all places. I think I'll take the thief/vandal/rapist side in this one.>>2990360>Buying meth/fent/40 isn't providing anything to anyone.It is providing to oneself, and it actually takes some effort to get your fix when you're struggling with addiction. If you remove these people out of the pool you'll be left with bunch of sadists in power and bunch of faggots cheering on someone else's death until it's their turn.
>>2990423>while you're sitting in your houseWhy yes I do have a house. Thanks for noticing.Yeah I'm was just sitting here all day long waiting for your reply... Nah I was out changing irrigation water on the farm, fed cattle, had a couple mamma cows calve this morning, sold some hay, got a hydraulic hose made to fix my Exmark mower, got an oil seal and fixed a leaking axle on my Troy-bilt horse tiller, and got the garden 90% tilled. What did you accomplish today loser?
>>2990456>What did you accomplish today loser?Nothing and I'm still a better person than you lol
>>2990357I accept your concession.
>>2988360Well said
