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>>18523442
quite easily, it's among the most common frags targeted towards women that men wear.
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I like Oud for Glory but I want to try something with more oud and less saffron, and other notes too because to me this just smells like Baccarat with an oud accord. I was about to get Amethyst from Lattafa but apparently it leans feminine.
Any suggestions? Cheapies/arabslop if possible, I don't want to spend niche money right now
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>>18523443
probably. ive never bought a lattafa fragrance but if they make all their shit ahead of time then its already macerated since that process takes place before the product is even sold. its pure cope to think something gets better after you buy it as if it personally waits until you've used it to start smelling better.
now if the fragrance is made literal days before its shipped off to you then thats a different story but theres only one clone house i know of that does that and its not arab
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>>18523452
>theres only one clone house i know of that does that and its not arab
who is it
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>>18523454
Dua I'm guessing
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Can anyone compare AdP Colonia and Eau d'Orange Verte?
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What's your favorite Loewe fragrance? I got loewe 7 for myself and the Ibiza cosmic for my mom. The loewe 7 smells amazing and unique but it is unfortunately a bit weak and I can't really smell it most of the time. What other frags from this brand are great? I already tried esencia edt and edp and they both smell nice, wish there was an edp version of the 7
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Have you ever bought or sampled a really expensive frag (>300€) that you thought was actually worth the money?
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>>18523481
>300€
not even that expensive for a full bottle
even Nasomatto frags cost more/100ml
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>>18523481
I mean in price per ML, multiple times
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>>18523483
And they're not even worth 1/5 of their price.
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Tfw you go out in public spaces just to use your cologne because what's the point if you're the only one who smells it at home
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>>18523329
>>18523444
>Reposting since I wasn’t paying attention to the new thread.
I’ve been resisting the urge to pick this up recently and think I’ve finally committed to passing on it. It gets a lot of hype and is an interesting take on leather, but I’m fairly certain I would almost always reach for something else over this. Iron Duke when it’s cooler, Fahrenheit if it’s warmer, and that’s only comparing against other leathers.

I like the overall profile it’s just not quite enough to be better. This is also ignoring the presumption it’s discontinued.
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Got a bottle of Prada Infusion D'Homme. Everything about it is true, clean, soapy, and powdery. I like the neroli at the start which is green and starchy. Soon you start getting the cakey makeup iris, there is something giving me a bubblegum/eraser smell which I can only guess is from the iris and benzoin, not my favorite. I'm starting to think there's something about cedar that makes me think of an elementary school setting, don't know why. Performs very well, I don't get the frankincense directly but you can tell it helps build the background of the fragrance adding a smokiness to the base. I'm going to keep trying it because so far it doesn't suit me. I'm not the ironed shirt, clean cut type, I'm more scruffy and relaxed. Even Mugler Cologne fits me better because it's green and musky.
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>>18523481
Is there any luxury products that are actually worth the money? You know you're buying it at a premium, that doesn't mean you can enjoy it and you'll have to pay to get the real deal, because fakes and dupes usually don't measure up.
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>>18523444

Right, c'mon then, what is the best Creed Aventus clone that you can buy in 2025??

Not 'inspired by', or 'its own twist on', I want the best 1 to 1 clone.

What is it?
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Opinions on Nikos Apostolopoulos Sculpture?
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What's the best TdH?
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>>18523582
the OG
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>>18523582
They're all terrible
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any recommendations for indian scents i want to smell like an authentic jeet
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>>18523591
fr*grantica top10 masculine frags
yw
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>>18523591
r/DesiFragranceAddicts/ no need to thank me, you can check out my new incense guide there as well!
>>18523582
og edt is a masterpiece and a classic by now, every flanker is also atleast fine.
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>>18523591
Do you mean the most popular designer stuff they use? See pic related. For what they traditionally would wear get an attar of Majmua oil or something:
>This is one of the most popular fragrances of India.
>https://nematperfumes.com/collections/exotic-perfume-oils/products/majmua
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It's gonna be an Avignon Autumn (winter, too).
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>>18523476
7 literally smells of nothing to me, I've tested it several times at stores but when they handle me the paper strip I smell nothing, I think the cardboard has a deeper smell than that
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>>18523610
>no drakkar noir
well I’ll be damned
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>>18523582
This fragrance makes me genuinely unsettled and angry if I can smell it for too long. Can't really explain.
It's obviously a clever and sophisticated fragrance, but there's something about it that really bothers me, maybe the hot flint accord, I don't know.
I just find it offensive on a psychological level.
No other fragrance ever makes me feel this way, not even fragrances I hate the smell of.
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>>18523619
That's weird. 7 smells pretty strong from up close. Maybe they watered down the samples or something, I've never experienced this
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>>18523631
This is how I am with Hugo. I don't know why it just smells so bad, worse than any other fragrance I ever smelled and I don't understand why anyone would wear it. I still have the bottle, it was a gift from my mom so I'm keeping it. I can still smell it sometimes in the wild and flinch
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>>18523610
I wanted to buy Givenchy gentleman reserve privee. Am I turning into an Indian now?
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>>18523650
it's over saar, you've been redeemed
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What is like Santal 33 but better?
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>>18523650
Overrated imo. It has that same "Boozy" note as Bentley for men, but done better. Bentley smells weird.
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>repels Indians in your path
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Any nice classic 'orientals' for fall? Something like Pasha or Opium Pour Homme, I'm not sure which are still good today.
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>>18523663
Why not opt for something less Indian smelling?
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>>18523667
Anything I wear smells white, especially because I don't spray it 15 times and hit the gym wearing a polo shirt and jeans.
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>>18523660
Nice classic frag, but Sel D'Issey knocks it out of the park, best freshie I've ever owned.
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>>18523670
Underspraying is typical Indian whitefacing
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>>18523680
I can’t tell if you’ve been shilling or genuinely evangelizing this frag
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>>18523690
NTA but come on over spraying is known classless/brown behavior, I always give people shifty eyes when I'm at a restaurant and I get drowned by someone sitting at the next table over showered in perfume. They always dress the same too, like rich upper class but something's off, you know what I mean
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>>18523577
pineapple vintage, followed by the alt fragrance one (yes really)
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what do we think of the newest Killian release
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>>18523700
You type like your eyes were shifty from birth if you know what I mean
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>>18523610
>tfw you own 4 of these
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>>18523591
Habit Rouge if you want to smell like an Indian uncle
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>>18523610
good thing these shitskins dont like polo blue and adg edt
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>>18523444
Just came to say that this smells like heaven. If you disagree then you are retarded.
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>>18523703
Thanks.
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>>18523481
I've tried Boadicea the Victorious's Valiant. Priced at 1300 for a full bottle. It was just a funkier AdP Colonia with too much jasmine and ylang. I found it nauseating honestly
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>>18523631
>TdH literally makes him seethe
Lol
Lmao
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>>18523791
cope harder poordog
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>>18523660
Thoughts on this?
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>>18523451
bump
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>>18523714
Imagine not beint confident in your taste just because some jeets in India wear the same stuff you do.
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Can anyone give me a definitive Issey Miyake fragrances ranking please? Never tried anything from them other than the usual LPH (my bottle was from 2011).
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>>18521336
not unless it's one of your favourite frags
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Best LMLP clone?
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Are there any fragrances inspired by 9/11?
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>>18523876
Kerosene Sacred Memory
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>>18523845
Le Feu d'Issey >>>>>>> anything else they ever created
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>>18523878
But the story tells a pleasant memory?
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>>18523885
Ah shucks
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Curious about Herod, got a little tired of TV

I've seen mentions of it not lasting very long and being kinda weak in general, any truth to it?
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>>18523481
Not at all, the best ones I tried cost anywhere between €25 to €220 per bottle.
>>18523663
Plenty of nice orientals for fall, have you not seen the infographics at the top?
If you want some more specific suggestions be more specific about what you're looking for.
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>>18523610
How can jeets afford this? I thought min wage over there was like 150 dollars. Are these upper class jeets? Like top tier scammers?
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>>18523534
that's how you do it
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>>18523947
they probably buy the dupes and claim that they have the originals
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>>18523792
Yeah it does lol
Weird frag that has such a power
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>>18523947
Does she have a cock?
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>>18523802
meh
it's a weaker Dior Homme Sport
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>>18523860
it would be a blind buy
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>>18523988
to me 120 bucks is too much
it's a rather strange frag and I don't know what to compare it to
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>>18523947
Based on my research while there are some high income Indians most of them see fragrances as aspirational goods. You know how you have a collection of bottles you spent a couple thousand on for shits and giggles as one of your many other hobbies? Not so for Indians, all their collections look the same featuring stuff from that chart. As status symbols they save up for them and being able to buy one is some sort of milestone. While saving up they buy some of the cheaper stuff on the image to tide them over. Clones and decants are quite common to ensure they are completely certain of their purchase. Unlike you or I they can't afford to blind buy or be stuck with something that's not a good value. After all this is less of a hobby for them and more of the one thing that will get them complements and the "old money" aesthetic. If you thought you spent a lot of time deciding on a fragrance imagine if that purchase was completely responsible for your self image and your self worth. Truly fascinating people.
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>>18524004
It's not so truly fascinating. This is just a good old case of the Nouveau Riche clique wylding. The Chinese and other browns too overcompensate like this.
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>>18523988
Definitely not then.
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>>18524012
It's completely different because Indians are more value and recognition oriented, Chinese are exclusivity and price oriented. An Indian will want a designer everyone recognizes and a scent everyone can smell for hours to get girls and validation. The Chinese will want the ridiculously priced limited edition real oud and musk to impress their business partner. I find it interesting because Chinese are more insular and I'm not interested in going to their social media and scouring for info while Indians are right there on Reddit.
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>>18524020
Fair. The jeets are like other people next to them like Iranians, Arabs when it comes to this at least. Dubai was unbearable with this 'beast mode' nonsense everywhere when it comes to their perfume souq markets. Maybe it's just a brown thing.
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>>18523842
brown hands typed this
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There's only 24 hours
And that's not enough
To lie like you lie
or love like you love

SOTD: Valentino Uomo Born in Roma Ivory

>>18524020
The rich Chinese, yeah. Mainland poor Chinese overcompensate by buying literal counterfeits of anything. There's a reason why designer fragrance counterfeits are very close to the original, they're made in the same factory because China has massive underground counterfeits market
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>>18523842
this entire thread in a nutshell
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>>18524041
which fragrances are made in china you dunce.
>>18524020
chinks are 100% recognition oriented as well, they are also perfectly fine with cheating and faking as long as it gets the desired recognition.
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>>18523446
It would be good if somebody would update this but with bottles that are actually available to buy
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>>18524054
yeah but it's too much hassle
feel free to do it if you have the time
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>>18524052
I have never once in my life smelled perfume coming from a Chinese person living most my life in NYC. The cultural revolution banning perfumes must still affect their culture and how they wear perfume.
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>>18524054
replace:
azzaro pour homme
mugler cologne
bvllgari black
dior homme
bentley absolute
a*men
ferrari bright neroli
a*men pure havane
ARGUABLE:
koublai khan, it has become neigh impossible to sample nowadays.
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>>18524072
most chinks in london will buy margiela, byredo, le labo if their tax bracket allows it they might buy some LV or some of the givenchy boutique collection
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>>18523963
Not a cock in sight.
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>>18524073
>azzaro pour homme
why?
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>>18524004
I'm not a jeet and I also don't like blind buying. I have a bottle that I shouldn't have bought and I don't like and I get annoyed when I see it
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>>18524079
wasn't it discontinued?
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>>18524082
Sell it then

Unless you're like me who hates dealing with customers and potential scammers
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>>18524084
nope
https://www.azzaro.com/en/fragrances/azzaro-pour-homme
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>>18524068
I would if I knew anything
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>>18523990
Strange how? Is it wearable? Is it nice? Maybe ill just put the money into interlude black iris
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>>18524073
>azzaro pour homme
discontinued but still cheap and easy to find

>mugler cologne
>bvllgari black
>dior homme
>bentley absolute
>a*men
All still available.
I thought people complaining about the charts were legit but they're just retards. Few stuff has become hard to find like pure havane but most should still be easy to find.
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>>18524085
Idk it's not worth that much and I don't really like dealing with selling shit. It's a YSL l'homme EDP 100ml wouldn't get more than 50 euros for it
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>>18524096
bulgari black is discontinued
og dior homme is discontinued
bentley absolute has been reformulated to shit and the profile no longer matches, same for a*men
the only retard here is you, and if "easy to find" means you are fine with paying double or even triple the retail for designers, it just goes to show how fucking retarded you actually are
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> In store trying out perfumes on my skin
>Heh, why not test my social skills and ask if a fragrance I'm looking for is available
>Ask the salesperson
>Oh yes, that's available.
>She removes the cap and gave it to me
>I stare too long at the cap, autsim kicked in
>I hold the cap in my hand for seconds, staring at the bottle she's holding

.....

>I-I'm expecting to spray that bottle because it literally says tester on it
>Oh! I'm supposed to smell the cap? I said in my head
>It took a painful 15 whole seconds for that entire interaction

Never asking sales again.
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>>18524106
please tell us you made this shit up, anon
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>>18524106
I can smell you from here
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>>18524109
I didn't. It happened months ago. I am actually relieved when others said online how that particular brand has a habit of their salesperson not allowing customers to spray testers lol
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>>18524105
>reformulated to shit
That's true for most perfumes, picking some out is nonsensical.
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>>18524116
LV? I've heard they make customers smell old perfume sprayed god knows when in a slop trough in front of the testers. Very lowbrow and undignified.
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>>18524123
>doubling down
lol, lmao even

>>18524124
grim
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>>18524123
how is it nonsensical when in those particular cases it makes them not fit the place on the flowchart anymore?
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>>18524124
"wow chang! these pefumes are so exclusive that we are not even allowed to touch them, you NEED to get them now"
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>>18524116
>LV
Tom Ford. kek
I think it depends on each store though. Some will let you spray the ones from new boxes. Lucky.

LV needs some quality control though, people have found counterfeit bottles in the store probably replaced by someone at some point.
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>>18524136
That's interesting. Sephora here just got a big shipment of tom fords and you can freely magdump even the really expensive ones like Fucking Fabulous.
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>>18524136
meant for
>>18524124
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>>18524123
My theory is that the "everything is reformulated" shit is just people comparing new bottles to old ones that had time to age and change the scent. Like I saw some YouTuber comparing his 2 boss bottled bottles saying one was a different "spicier" formulation/batch. No man one is just older and probably evaporated that's why it smells more intense
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>>18524128
>particular cases
It would be impossible to keep track of all the reformulations. Are you going to have a live document like Aventus retards:
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NoPpK1UBVzc6phitle3eFAEOOSkjqMysfHYWzl3kbKg/edit?pref=2&pli=1&gid=2117459015#gid=2117459015

It's a fucking guide, the expectation that it's a live document updated regularly that looks at every reformulation and stock status is insane.
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>>18524141
>comparing new bottles to old ones that had time to age and change the scent
That is just one of the hundreds of variables that can affect how different bottles smell. Do reformulations happen? Obviously. Is the guy that smelled two random bottles and goes "dude trust me" enough evidence? Doubt.
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>>18524095
>Strange how?
rare note combination
>Is it wearable?
during autumn
>Is it nice?
if you like incensy resin with sage on cedar and eukalyptus
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>>18524164
that sounds like something i would like. what's a good price for it? I rarely see it for sale and the guy won't budge on the price.
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>>18524143
nobody ever implied that the guide should be a live document, but in the context of "hey, I think the guide is quite outdated" it is absolutely reasonable to point stuff out, worse yet by the time the guide was being finalized half of the discontinued frags were already gone or obviously on the chopping block.
You are just an utter moron, retarded midwit that continues to create strawmen to "win arguments" on fucking 4shit of all places, go back to where you belong, there is no awards for your kvetching here.
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>>18524074
>byredo
That's the Swedish npc middle-class upgrade for women. It's like going from Ikea kitchen knives to Global knives.
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>>18524176
>the guide is quite outdated
>strawmen
Most of the stuff in the guide is easy to find and useful, you're the one creating a strawman. Get fucked.
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>>18523802
It's like DH2020 but sans bergamot and a touch more herbal, the sage and vetiver give me an earthy almost medicinal quality. It's okay, I'd get DH2020 or other Isseys before this one.
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Creed Royal Oud

All you need.
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>>18522129
Perfumanon, on the off chance you should stop back in and see this, I just thought of a great question for you that I’ve wondered about in the past.

How much does the color of juice play into a fragrance as a whole?

Eg, do customers ever reject briefs because a juice is too dark? (If you get feedback) Or as part of your training/education do they say to avoid anything beyond ‘X’ opacity or w/e.

Weather is cooling down so I can finally start breaking out some of the more rich, and typically darker frags, but several of them can be non-options if I’m wearing a white shirt to work.
>SOTD: The Most Wanted Parfum
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>>18524202
That's not the perfumer anon. Different writing style.
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>>18523610
Jesus fucking Christ
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>>18524202
not perfumer but look on the ingredients and if you see dyes in the list you can assume that the colour is just part of the marketing. When I was researching vintages before buying my mitsouko extrait there was some people saying that juice can darken with age and that with vintages darker is better but that seems to be all unsubstantiated fuddlore.
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>>18523610
What's wrong with this list? Fragrantica's top is fairly similar. Of course if you ask a lot of people about their favorite fragrances they'll tend to choose safe, mass-appealing options.
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>>18524214
Nothing. People just like making fun of Indians and calling other people Indian when they disagree with them.
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Anyone try the new Essential Parfums Iris?
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>>18524186
>>18524176
I'm the anon who suggested an update is in order. Didn't mean to start a flamewar, just genuinely trying to get into scents and frustrated. You would never expect a beginners flowchart for film to consist of obscure stuff that only screened at festivals in Asia, or a chart for beginner car enthusiasts to have a bunch of custom kit cars that require proprietary tools or whatever. Or is it common for scents to have limited runs and then be gone forever like how it is with designer clothes? If so, it would be helpful to notated that on the chart.
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Will this get me a rich italian sugar mommy?
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>>18524232
nope
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>>18524172
dang I just checked a price lister for frags in my cunt and kouros body has nearly tripled in price

I paid ~85usd on some notino sale back in april last year

so maybe 120usd is a decent price if you're interested in the scent and can spare the cash

the frag actually used to hover around 100usd before I bought it and seeing as it's seemingly discontinued and you think you'll like it I think you should go for it (might go up in price in the future so there's a resell opportunity)
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>>18524187
Thanks
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>>18522129
>You can use this to create your very own Dior homme intense,
why the fuck would I want to do that

>>18524230
>Or is it common for scents to have limited runs and then be gone forever like how it is with designer clothes?
that's quite literally exactly what happens with the vast majority of frags
only the most popular ones stick around
the rest get discontinued when the (((suits))) see a drop in sales and then old stock mostly goes to discounters where it will hang around for a while
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>>18524230
>is it common for scents to have limited runs and then be gone forever
Everything good gets discontinued and what doesn't get discontinued gets reformulated to hell. Most stuff can be found on ebay but you will have to pay the price if it was something rare or desirable.
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>>18524268
Some very popular stuff will most likely never get discontinued
Cool Water, TDH, BDC, etc
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>>18524277
They've been reformulated. Very popular stuff like Aramis and Profumo have been discontinued. Being popular is no guarantee.
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>>18524250
>>18524268
Dang. I guess my concept of the industry was all wrong. I would have thought scents were more like paints, with a finite number of combinations they must have all been made already. Or like books and music, with the classics of each genre being perennially popular and in stock. Frustrating.
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I sprayed TdH Eau Givree on myself at the store and two older black women who were shopping nearby audibly started gagging and saying "Ew" over and over until I left.

I am now considering buying it just for its repellent properties.
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>>18524291
based
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>>18524291
I do like eau givree but not for the price that it's being sold at
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>>18524073
Most of these are still available. Just got a new bottle of Mugler Cologne yesterday.

>koublai khan
Available in the Flacons de table collection.
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>>18524291
Uhhh, based.
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>>18524291
Makes sense. 'Eau' and 'givree' are both things they'd be afraid of.
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>>18524294
the guy was wrong about mugler cologne, and azzaro pour homme, one got rebranded and the other one is getting limited distribution routes
a*men and bentley absolute got reformulated to the extent that they barely share anything with their orginal form and he is also right about koublai khan being impossible to sample
best case scenario he was right about 7/9, worst case scenario 5/9 in what world 2/9 or 4/9 counts as the majority
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I want a cologne that smells like a library/old books
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>>18524330
I don't think such a cologne exists
diptyque has l'eau de papiere which smells somewhat like paper
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>>18524330
Encre Noire
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>>18524141
I sampled Green Irish Tweed (2025) and it's literally beast mode. Solid 8+ hours of projection and I could still smell it on my skin 12 hours after. I have no idea how people could think the longevity of the current formulation is poor. Makes me wonder if I got memed on buying Sillage instead of actual Silver Mountain Water.
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>>18524330
Commodity Book is meant to achieve this. It's a pleasant light/woody scent, not a Santal 33 'dupe' as some say.
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>>18524330
check out Athenaeum from Jorum Studio
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>coworkers talk about fragrance everyday and their favorite tiktok fragrance influencers
>designer and masstige slop like Sauvage, PDM, Xerjoff
>always been an undersprayer Chad because fragrances are personal and I don't care about compliments
>coworkers are discovering that I'm wearing niche fragrances because sometimes they come up close to me
How do I play it off cool? Do I say me mum bought it for me?
SOTD: Cologne Du Maghreb
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>>18524354
nobody is ever going to talk to you, the fact that you unironicaly use the word masstige means you are inssuferable beyond a shadow of a doubt
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>>18524354
>Cologne Du Maghreb
No way anybody can smell this after 30 minutes. It smells nice though. I only talk fragrance with normalfags to humiliate how little they know. Just talk about IFRA for 2 minutes and they will never talk to you again.
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>>18524291
Can you wear this outside of summer? Not sure I can handle dirtier and earthier than this.
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>>18524291
samefagging is insane
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>>18524362
sure, but the colder it gets the sharper vetiver feels, assuming winters are really cold you might end up smelling "overdressed"
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>>18524354
>sissysprayer
>chad
lol, lmao even
>Cologne Du Maghreb
nice
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>>18524330
Comme des Garcons Avignon
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130€ for 2009 kouros, worth it or is it already reformulated by that point?
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>>18524291
Fuck foids. If you feel good, you are doing good.
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>>18524371
Everything gets reformulated all the time, you just have to see if it's any good.

https://raidersofthelostscent.blogspot.com/2014/01/kouros-scent-of-gods-12.html
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>>18524354
Never mention fragrances to them ever, and gatekeep everything you wear by only naming the brand if they ask
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>>18524371
The current formulation is honestly fine. I don’t know what year my Kouros is from but its not vintage and it has very very good longevity, durability, and projection. You can probably find it for like 80 euroids or less. I think I paid about 80-90 canadian pesos for mine.
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>>18524400
I can get current one for 50€, I like the current one but I want more animalic honey notes.
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How's the new cool water, bros?
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What frag would you wear on a date with her? Would you overspray or sissyspray?
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How it feels to pronounce Ghehr-len ah-bee roozh
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>>18524412
your alphabet is lacking.
gerlą abi róż
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>>18524291
When I first sprayed it on I thought it had a fishy smell with that cold metallic juniper smell.
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>>18524418
gift it to your daddy twinky winky boyo. Real MANs smell is not for you
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>>18524418
Well, what's the problem?
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>>18524418
That's what fahrenheit smells like
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Bought AdG parfum, first time I've had anything from that line, funnily enough I had Emporio Lui when I was a kid.
Simple and familiar dna, but well made and addictive. I was surprised that it has a persistent freshness and doesn't dry down to the typical heavy base notes.
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>>18524401
Then you’ll probably want to look for a bottle from the early 90s. They still used real civet and oakmoss then as well as other ingredients that were banned or restricted. If you want more animalic you’ll have to look for true vintage and prepare your wallet accordingly.
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>>18524430
>They still used real civet
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Bijan for men or Giorgio Beverly Hills?
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>>18524436
Bijan.
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Best Zoology scent? Portuguese Man O War sounds nice
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>>18524450
I'm Portuguese should I buy this? Don't even know where to buy it here.
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>>18524450
*Zoologist
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>>18524450
Civet. Old school glamorous spicy floral amber.
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>wear 80s slop from recommended by /frag/
>people tell me I smell like shit
>wear designerslop
>people tell me I smell good
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>>18524462
Well, they can be a bit funky and mossy by today's clean and fresh standards.
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>>18524430
Kouros never used real civet
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>>18524450
They're all very different so it will depend on your taste, but I liked Civet and Snowy Owl the most
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>>18524462
>caring what retard normies think
also nobody spoke to you about your fragrance, good or bad. Cool story though.
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Bought this shitter since tester bottles are cheap. Pretty nice, nothing really special though. Bergamont, ambrox, and very clean vetiver. Worth the $50 IMO.
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>>18524450
best perfumery? probably civet or the old moth
most accurate projection of the animal? bee no questions asked, it's beautiful honey and wax scent.
as for my recommendations? rhino, bee, squid. Also sample camel and hyrax, it's crazy that the same formulations of hyrax can smell like an outhouse portapotty on some people, and on others it's sweet earthy, ambery leather scent.
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>>18524471
trooning out at your age may be challenging, but natalie mars pulled it off, so have at it champ!
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>>18524479
>ambrox
into the trash it goes
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>>18524291
Same bugspray smell Bois Imperial has.
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>>18524427
Smells like semen.
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>>18524485
Everything smells like semen to you people
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>>18524450
They're all crap desu
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Do you think there's a chance that Amouage will bring back into production some of Christopher Chong's era releases like Myths Man and Figment Man?
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>>18524517
luckily, no
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>>18524528
Why luckily? What are your favourite Amouages then?
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>>18524462
This is going to shock you but all those people are wrong. Do you trust their tastes in music, shows, and movies? Why would you trust their tastes in fragrances? Older stuff is just unironically better.
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>>18524476
>caring what autistic, lifelong bullying victim contrarians on 4chan think
this is somehow even more sad than caring what normies think
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the thinking man's option is only caring about what women think
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>>18524545
women don't think
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>>18524462
When a woman says that she likes your fragrance, she doesn't necessarily mean that she likes it on you. She likes it as in she would wear it herself. Very important distinction to consider. If you want to wear something that 99% of women will like, wear something that is unapologetically masculine and lavender-forward. They figured all this shit out back in the 70s and 80s. Lavender makes people feel safe. If you know women then you know they love to feel safe.
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Got money to blow. What should I get?
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>>18524450
Koala is best but camel is very nice to.
Get your nose in t Rex though
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>>18523578
Bought it because of the Noel bodybuilder influencer guy. It is alright, smells like Baja Fresh/fish tacos to me.
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Just bought this. The smell is much better and stronger than Brut. I don't think jeets will wear this. Who fougere master race here?
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>>18524602
I have this too, both the oil and spray version. It's nuclear. Smells like Lapidus PH to me. The cap is ass tho, gets worn out after some time.
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>>18524410
You shouldn't be going on dates with girls that young at all
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>>18524565
Tom Ford Grey Vetiver
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>coworker sprayed shitty arabic cologne and it stunk up the break room
Arrrr
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>>18524517
You're telling me Figment Man is discontinued?
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>>18524218
Yes. I already knew I disliked iris prior to sniffing it and I continue to dislike it after sniffing it.
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>>18524287
If you were to get down to the technical nitty gritty, yes, there are only a finite number of permutations and ingredient combinations that can be made, but the number is so large as to be imperceptible. On top of that there are new fragrance materials (aroma chemicals) being discovered/created intermittently which shake up the landscape to varying degrees. Akigala wood is still in a bit of a hype phase right now, Calone was during the 90’s.

The weird thing to keep in mind about scent perception is it’s never just about a smell being present or absent. The way we smell things changes based on the concentration of the ingredients. The easiest example is Gentle Fluidity by MFK, there’s a gold version and a silver version. Both fragrances use the exact same ingredients, but in different concentrations and smell very different. So in short, there are near infinite fragrances that can be created.

There isn’t much in the way of perennials trends, but there are however waves of things that are popular. You can go way, way back looking for trends, but the 80’s tended to be overtly masculine and powerful. 90’s were leaning towards blue aquatics and clean. 00’s continued this trend. 10’s started towards the “post blue” movement and sweet gourmands continue to gain traction. Ouds took over for a while there, I don’t remember when exactly. They’ve died down a little but are likely to never fully go away now that they’ve engrained. We’re still pretty set in the middle of the Ethol Maltol era of sweet fragrances atm and a lot of people are waiting to see what the “Next new thing” will be.
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>>18524330
Pineward is releasing Tome September 1st, go check it out. (Not a cologne though, prob parfum concentration)

“It’s moody. It’s warm. It’s complex.
It smells like ink on old paper, worn leather, cool skin, and late-night thoughts.

Or, as a Pineward customer once eloquently said, “Exactly what an old world, young professor on [an] expedition tent would smell like in the early morning.”
Notes:
Parchment (nagarmotha), sandalwood, leather, cedar, Jade 403 (binding glue), vintage book (furfural, vanillin, benzaldehyde), orris root, black tea, coffee, ambrette, tobacco.”

You could also consider Cœur de Noir by Beaufort London.
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>>18524430
>>18524432
>>18524470
Cinarome animalis, never real civet.

>>18524450
I’ve been curious about Man-O-War myself, but been waiting for their next release because I hate paying shipping for a single 2ml sample. Also, >>18524474 is correct, their fragrances run the entire line from sweet gourmands in Bee to a shitty pissy scent in Hyrax. If you can afford to drop the cash buy their full sample set or one of the smaller mixes. Ignore the people who shit on them, I won’t claim every fragrance is a hit, but they’re certainly interesting.

My personal favorite is Penguin, mossy leather base with a cool airy top feel, but Civet and Musk Deer are good, I didn’t care for Snowy Owl. I actually can’t stand Bee even though it’s one of their best rated, it smells sweet the same way artificial sweeteners taste “sweet”. Squid is somewhat unique, Hyrax is one of the few fragrances that uses Hyraceum. And T-Rex is famous for almost always being in the top 5-10 for loudest, most bombastic fragrances, I quite like it myself but would never own more than a travel spray at a time of it.
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>>18523451
I am once again asking for your help
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>>18524410
>overspray
very hard to do
>>18524620
post beef curtains
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>>18524436
both
t. has both
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>>18524479
>Worth the $50 IMO.
most certainly not when picrel is the best vetiver on the market
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>>18524545
that's the one thing you should not care about
>>18524602
sandniggers wear this

>>18524623
>>18524728
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>Myrrh oud and frankincense oil
>6 sprays of CDG Avignon
>Platinum cross pendant
>White linen shirt
>Pocket Bible on one hand

I think I'm ready for the Sunday mass bros
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>>18524736
Where'd you get oud oil and myrrh oil?
>>Platinum cross
based, I wanted to get my baptismal cross done in platinum originally but went for 18k in the end
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>>18524641
>people are waiting to see what the “Next new thing” will be.
I'd expect the aquatic blue fragrances to develop into more light, airy, transparent and modern. H24 and Bois imperial type of scents, but something that actually smell nice and mass appealing.

With the trending interest in fragrances and explosion in niche brands, there's also much more competition and there's more diversification in what people like and can choose from. Same as with fashion and music.
So is there going to be a new bdc or sauvage in the foreseeable future that dominates the market?
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>>18524620
That's my 22 year old girlfriend you freak
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>>18524629
It's not on Amouage's website, so yeah. Fate Man and Imitation Man are also discontinued.
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>>18524754
I don't think so, we're just gonna see more choices pop up, things will be less centralized. It's not gonna be "blue showergel frag or nothing" like in the 2010s, we'll have everything, gourmands, synthetic ouds, airy woods, white florals, and all will be popular
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>>18524746
I use Nemat Oud oil from Amazon. It's no more than 50 bucks. The myrrh and frankincense is from my local grocery but I'm sure you can find it online.

>Baptismal cross
That's great. I wish we have that too but mine's just passed down lol.
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>>18524736
>>18524746
>>18524776
what do you do with the oil?
just put a dab on your skin?
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>>18524776
>Nemat Oud oil
What kind of oud smell is it, barnyard, medicinal?
I wouldn't really want to smell like frankincense but I've been curious to know what myrrh smells like
>mine's just passed down
That's based actually
>>18524778
Yeah pretty much, behind the ears, not on the neck so I don't stain clothing
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>>18524776
Ah man nemat is US-based
I'll have to find a euro alternative
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Are all women ugly without makeup?

Also SOTD pic related
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>>18524556
Is that why a lot of women like the Myslf line? It's something they can imagine pulling off?
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>>18524778
I put some on my finger, depending on the intensity and just rub it on my neck or behind ears, maybe on my wrist if weather is colder
>>18524781
>What kind of oud
It's not really barnyard-y or fecal, it's more smokey, dry wood. You get hints of earthy vibes in the background but it's not overpowering.
>Myrrh
If you ever smelled unburned incense resin it smells like that, with bit of pine-y nuances. It's got a Christmas tree vibe going on but personally I like frankincense more as a perfume note, not so much for myrrh.
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>>18524786
>Are all women ugly without makeup?
mostly

when they are young and their skin isn't yet ruined by make up they can be attractive
but then they wear more and more make up ruining their skin which they then have to hide behind more make up and then it's over for them

but if any woman wants to break from the make up world she's gonna put herself at a disadvantage attractivness wise since decent make up can easily give a woman +1 or even +2 of facial attractivness
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>>18524556
You are retarded, and if you had any experience with women you would realize that, which proves that you're also an incel.
Women are attracted to raw masculinity, not the performative one - wearing a perfume never makes you more masculine to a woman by itself, even if it smells like cigarettes and mold.
Just as an anecdote, my gf says she loves a bunch of fresh floral fragrances on me that are not what was considered masculine in the 70s and 80s (which is what your idea of masculine is), and also routinely sniffs my neck, armpits and crotch and says she loves that as well, and that's not because she imagines herself smelling like that.
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>>18524790
>smokey, dry wood
That's nice, I've been on the lookout for a clean woody oud
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>>18524556
that is not what women mean when they say that
>>18524796
>Just as an anecdote, my gf says
you have never touched a woman
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Ambroxan is genuinely disgusting yet so ubiquitous in modern mens perfumery. I refuse to wear anything with ambroxan in the dry down.
IFRA are to blame for it's proliferation by restricting all the natural fixatives.
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>>18524815
Your favourite perfume probably has ambroxan in it too. What you dislike is an overdose of ambroxan
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I like Ambroxan in aquatic fragrances. Particularly the briney oystery types
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>>18524730
>>18524545
no no not women's opinions, you have to be obsessed with not wearing anything that may be worn by arabs, jeets, or reddit like the incels here
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>>18524754
yes and it's le male elixir rn
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>>18524828
women have no opionions, they have the general consensus, which can be broken if she is attracted to you enough, but assuming she is tapped into social media trying to fight against the social pressure in todays age is not a smart thing to do.
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>>18524556
Fragrance reviewers asking girls on the street if smells good and then if it would smell good on a guy, then they have to think about it.
Women typically don't consciously know what they like. They conjure up an image of something based on the emotions they feel subconsciously. That's why they tend to have these idealized images of a man.
"This smells like a clean fit man fresh out of the shower with a white tshirt" or "this smells like a mature mysterious wealthy man in a dark suit who knows what he wants" or the badboy in a leather jacket. It's their idealized idea of a man.

You don't hear a man talk like that "this fragrance smells like a sexy girl straight out the shower with a clean white tshirt and her life in order".
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>>18523481
I think they were all slightly sub 300 but I’ve bought a few MDCI perfumes that were all worth it (Invasion Barbare, Chypre Palatin and Cuir Garamente). Oud wood and Tuscan Leather were worth it too imo
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>>18524815
What does ambroxan even smell like
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Why do people say this is a "blue" fragrance? Because the bottle is blue? Because there really isn't anything else blue about it
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Does anyone get immediately tired of scents? I can't wear even my favorite scents more than once or twice in a few days before I get sick of them.
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>>18524857
that is why you should have at least 100 frags so you can rotate them without getting bored
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>>18524862
I'm probably close.
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>>18524864
>I'm probably close.
good, then what's the problem
keep on rotating those frags and you should be fine
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>>18524291
based
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Hello smell thread.
I tried this the other day and it lasted 13+ hours on me. I like the idea of a vanilla scent, but is it appropriate for a man to smell like something so sweet? Vanilla is my favourite flavour, however I don't know if I want to smell like it.

t. used the same handful of stuff for years and years and curious of new shit
>polo green
>geo f trumper skye
>any vetiver I get as a present
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>>18524291
If you like Eau Givree you'll likely like Eau De Rochas, and that's cheap enough to spray 20 times to get some performance out of it (while if you spray Eau Givree like 6-8 times you won't smell it in 30 mins).
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>>18524871
Love the original Habit Rouge, don't care for any of the flankers. It's a gorgeous fizzy citrus, drying down to a sweet woody rose.
But it's not versatile at all. I have to be really in the mood to wear it.
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>>18524871
Sweet fragrances are fine. I have this stuff which is very sweet and plummy but at the same time it's most definitely masculine.
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>>18524878
>ideal homo extreme
>definitely masculine

LMAO sure
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>>18524871
It's quite common these days. Depending on how sweet it is you just have to be mindful in warm climates if it becomes cloying.
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>SOTD Azemour Les Orangers
Is this what oakmoss smells like?
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>>18524871
Have you tried the "original" EDT? Not nearly as sweet.

Best vanilla fragrances
>Eau des Baux
>Un Bois Vanille
>Eau Duelle
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>>18524871
my favourite vanillas
van sea - salty, marine very clear acqua di sale DNA softened by an everlasting vanilla in the base, really nice releaxing summer scent
babycat - olibanum, vanilla, suade. Sweet but not sickening and everlasting, heard vanagloria is very similiar to it but it's hard to sample it where I live
ani - ginger, florals and spicy vanilla.
spiritueuse double vanille - boozy vanilla, intoxicating.
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>>18524871
Vanillas I wear in order of increasing sweetness
>Shalimar EDT, current formula. Easily worn by men in current year. Very nice ambery vanilla with very little sweetness.
>Tobacco Vanille. Slightly sweet vanilla but nicely balanced with sharp tobacco
>Dior Homme Intense. Sweet and pillowy musky iris vanilla.
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>>18524871
Serge Lutens Chergui is a good mix of spice, tobacco, and vanilla. Like a more refined Eau de Bavx
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>>18524880
Masculine yes. Manly no.
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>>18524944
chergui is great but vanilla is not one of the notes I'd use to describe it and I definitely wouldn't call it a more refined eau de bavx
chergui is in another league
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>>18524966
Noselet
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>>18524980
but enough about you
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>>18524565
A Gibson Les Paul or a datejust. If it’s a significant enough amount a Hyundai ioniq 5 because I just drove one and for the price that car is excellent
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>>18524985
>gibson
>fwd
>electric "car"
Jesus christ, a golem among golems.
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Where do you sell used fragrance bottles?
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>>18524990
facebook, ebay and it's equivalents
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>>18524986
Idk what fwd means
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>>18524990
in europe it's local fb groups.
idk how well that works in USA where building a trust based community will never work due to negros and jeets
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>>18524986
Also what you play a jazz master you faggot. (jk I have a jazzmaster too but they are gay and Gibson is straight as fuck)
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My Oud Wood bottle is coming in 5 days, it has no reformulations right?? it's made in December 2024.
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>>18524998
jaguar, but you got disturbingly close
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>>18524995
Fuck white dicks
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>>18525002
So you’re trans
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>>18524997
i don't want to kiss up to a bunch of retards who think they're a "community" for six months before i can sell a frag
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I guess I should test this considering I bought it nearly a week ago.
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>>18525020
thats not how it works at all, you just have to have proof of purchase
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will any of you cunts attend this event?
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>>18525023
>proof of purchase
What happened to you "trust based community"? I buy shit from randos here in the US with nothing but their "dude trust me" and I have yet to be let down.
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>>18525045
you trust them not to decant the og juice and fill it with cheapest replacement, which I guarantee happens among negros, jeets and spics.
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>>18525056
Solution: don't buy from negroes, jeets, and spics.
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>>18525064
telegony and microchimerism are brootal mate, you don't get to chose.
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>>18525028
Why would I pay to enter a trade show about things I can smell the following week at a store?
Same thing with esxence.
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>>18525028
Might just travel there in hopes to meet perfumer anon, I’m sure hell be there
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>>18525067
If you can't psychically detect minorities and nigger blood by this point you're just a failure
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>>18524728
When?
Not right now surely, that's not even the best vetiver frag in its price range.
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>>18525103
nta but it's the best choice even for 100 bucks
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>>18525086
is that a rape threat saar?
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>>18525028
If it's the perfumery equivalent to pretentious shitshows like pitti uomo I rather not.
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>>18525134
>turn-ups
fucking milaniggers
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I did it... I actually ordered BDC L'exclusif...
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>>18525134
uhg that's disgusting
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>>18525148
meant for >>18525147
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>>18525147
I heard it's just a slightly better version of the parfum. I'm wearing the EDP today and I probably won't get anything else from the line.
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>>18525021
>Don't post at me or my son ever again.
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>>18525105
Terre d'Hermes is better.
Please don't reply saying TdH is not a vetiver frag because if it's not then Vetiver's a tobacco frag.
>>18525145
>milaniggers
Not to say that Milanese have good taste, but Pitti Uomo is held in Florence.
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anything worth sampling from ds&durga?
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>>18525214
Nothing
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>>18525214
Coriander is nice, basically og Acqua di Gio on steroids
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>>18525023
i don't keep receipts of my frags wtf
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French Lover sample soon (two weeks ffs it better be great).
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Frag for attracting this kind of girls?
I generally dress sharp but I've gotten a lot of compliments for my mesh ballet flats in recent weeks.
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>>18525240
They're currently all fat single moms covered in tattoos pushing approaching middle age.

Whatever attracts that.
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>>18524997
I'm portuguese and you can't basically buy anything second hand, not because of scams (although the brazillians are trying to change that), but because people basically want to sell second hand used shit at full or near full price, I seriously can't believe these people
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>>18525252
I meant young girls who currently look like Hayley Williams did at 18 to 25, not girls who looked like that 15 years ago.
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>>18525261
I see this a lot even in Canada. I tried finding a better price on Jicky EDT in the 75ml old school bottle from second hand sellers. Discounter price was $99 and they were asking $120-140 for the same bottle. Asian sellers though.
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I sprayed ONE spray of Sultan Vetiver near my bed a few days ago and I still smell it.
I don't like it enough for a full bottle, but the quality's there.
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>>18524836
idk, if there was a perfume that smelled like debt free fair skin virgins without tattoos or hardcore political beliefs - I could see it being mens favorite on women
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>>18525272
Yeah its called freshly distilled lavender hydrosol from very very very old money french estates, reserved only the monsieurs daughters.
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>>18525271
available at 90$ for 50ml here.
>>18525261
lmao, in Poland we get people selling stuff at insane sale prices sometimes, like recently rossman had a 1+1 sale which resulted in people getting some amouages, crivellis and tom fords at around half the retail, even funnier some groups, specificaly the ones centered around niche would shame people for trying to resale
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>>18525214
Cowboy Grass is pretty great
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>>18525214
I like St Vetyver which is supposed to be similar to Cowboy Grass (mentioned by >>18525307), but goes for a boozy/sweet take.
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>>18525309
Absolutely
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Can someone explain why civet musk (or literally any other body odor of a mammalian animal) is attractive, while human body odor is disgusting? Why are we repulsed by our own shit
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>>18525364
read any studies regarding androstenol? we also find our "musks" attractive. Human body odour is disgusting because it's usually related to bacteria. Also have you never felt attracted to the scent of your sweaty partner? not to mention that a fair portion of humans will find their some excretions atleast intresting, sniffing your own farts or swabbing your grundle and sniffing.
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>>18523444
Has anyone tried the new Prada Paradigme? Is it too generic man frag or is it a love letter to the genre?



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