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>>18524702
I did try to respond to a bunch of Anons in the previous thread, however it wouldn't let me post all of the responses in one go because it thinks my response is spam. I hope you are all doing well, staying in good health, and most importantly finding happiness in life.

You've all been missed, even you BitterAnon. I hope this thread is a great one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzqh2kroYIw [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgorm0DgkBA [Embed]
Poolex

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>>18524719
Agreed - it would really suck if the 32xx movements are faulty due to a design flaw instead of just a few lemons. Thank goodness mine uses the older 31xx. What watch are you wearing today, Fren?

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my main rotation as seen
>>18524675
first time posting in awhile, i think these threads used to be on /g/ if i'm not mistaken. anyway, i'm really into this 20 year old carabiner piece i got recently, dual time and stop watch with day of the week dial lol. it makes me want one of those timex with thermometer and compass built in.

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does anyone like flip clocks?

the KING is back. It's fucking over. We WON.

>>18524702
that looks good af
>>18524737
yeah i had one, but it broke. i always wonder where it been in the past, maybe in some shitty hotel or something. i'd get a new one but they're expensive as fuck

The coffee poster is actually homosexual.

>>18524702
Holy based, we did it lads.

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>>18524702
Do we all agree that this is the ultimate watch chart?

>>18524767
Inaccurate by its own standards.
Going by prices, Rolex should be lower "luxury" or between "almost luxury" and "luxury".
And, as always, Casio transcends all charts.

>>18524769
Wtf are you talking about? Rolex starting price is like $7900.

>>18524767
Highly inaccurate.
Since when are the best watches ever made "mass market shitters".

>>18524774
San Martin watches are cool, but i'd not call them "best watches ever made".

>>18524767
Where do we draw the line where Chinese components are used? 15k?

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100% (Hundred Percent, down to the IN-HOUSE hairspring) made in SWITZERLAND.

100% (Hundred percent, down to the IN-HOUSE GROWN jewels and quartz crystal) made in JAPAN.

>>18524807
No line to be drawn (swiss made only refers to movements ; no matter the price range your metal bracelet will be made in China, no exception)

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fixed a few things, but it's pretty much this.

>>18524807
Only haute horology can be trusted on that.
But OBJECTIVELY and TECHNICALLY, does it really makes a difference if a 5mm stainless steel wheel is made in Valjoux or in Shenzhen?

most /fa/ /out/ watches?

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>>18524741
Thanks Fren, it's definitely my favorite watch of all of them. I always knew it was my favorite design, and no matter what watch I own, I always come back to this Speedy in the end.

I'm trying to find pics of it on wrist, to maintain the theme. I always liked this one.

Incidentally, I have been wavering quite close to getting a modern 3861...it is calling out to me. Thinking Sapphire Sandwich...we'll see.

What watch are you wearing today, Fren?

>>18524859
Damn that's such a nice wat-
>Right hand
Bro

Just buy Tudor
https://youtu.be/azfVKSn_5AE?si=esN1KbzfQ8MzGttN

Chewdah, guvna, Chewdah.

>>18524848
Casio Forester.
The pinetree logo is effay beyond reason.

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I think I'm going to do it. Just can't make up my mind yet on black or blue.

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>>18524922
I like blue a lot as a color, it's my favorite, but this shade somehow doesn't move me. Black is mich more versatile and it's a strap monster.

Which one is better: Seiko or Citizen?

>>18524934
>Which one is better: Halloween 5 or Friday the 13th 7?

>>18524934
Seiko obviously.
It has different ranges and layers.

>>18524702
What a disgusting shitter lol.

>>18524934
Citizen in terms of QC and their Eco Drive technology.
Seiko in terms of dial designs.

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Posting my watch (which is the best watch ever made) into the watch thread started by our most influential poster.
We missed you OmegaChad, you've been alright?

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Zaratzu.

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>>18524859
here's my 3861 ss
It's my first luxury watch so I can't really compare it to anything but I love it. Runs 2s/d fast

>>18524702
Gonna run errands + gym. Perfect day for a G-Shock

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>>18524898
If I only wear one, it's always on the right. I tried wearing a watch on the left for a few years, but it always felt wrong. Such is life.

>>18524922
Have you seen either in person? I find that colours never match what I see in pics. I was able to have a good look at the new FOIS in person a few months ago, and realized that the blue colour doesn't look as blue (more like dark blue/black/grey) and the faux patina lume plots look like diarrhea. As you can probably guess, I didn't get it. There are other problems with that watch too (most notably that the hands are illegible), but at least Omega tried.

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>>18524972
Good day Citizenchad! Are you doing well? Things have been extraordinarily busy on my end, and will likely remain so, therefore I'm rarely here at all. I've missed you all too, and I'm glad to see that you're still around and that your Citizen is still keeping perfect time.

>>18524977
Looks awesome on you, Fren. Thank you for letting me know how it's running - I don't own any co-axials, and I've only heard great things about their performance (especially the Master Chronometers), so it helps to know that yours is running wonderfully. I have the old 1861 as well, and both the 321 and 1861 have tolerances of 12 and 14 seconds a day, so a Speedy Pro that is out of the factory within chronometer specs is a new concept for me (although Omega did a chronometer spec back in the day...I think it was a Gold special edition or something from the 90s, can't remember). My watchmaker has kept the 321 within 1 second a day, but I had to get the 1861 serviced by Omega a few months ago and I've just left it as is (around +4 per day) because I can always reset it when necessary. Did you get the on-the-fly adjustable bracelet? Do you like it? Are you ever worried about servicing in the future, since you'd have to take it to a watchmaker who is trained in co-axial lubrication? Finally, what made you choose the sapphire sandwich over the hesalite? Great to see it!

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>>18525008
>Did you get the on-the-fly adjustable bracelet?
nope, just two micro adjustment holes
it fits perfectly anyway
>Do you like it?
Watch? I love it. I have it for 3 months and I feel like it's part of me now. Bracelet? I didn't like bracelets before this watch (maybe because all I've experienced was casio) but this one feels great. Plus the polished inner links make the watch feel a bit more like jewelry. I still wear it on nato or sailcloth more often tho, at least during the summer cuz my hands swell easily.

>Are you ever worried about servicing in the future, since you'd have to take it to a watchmaker who is trained in co-axial lubrication?
I mean I planned just to go to Omega when the time comes, but now when you said that I guess I need to do some research? My brother is deep into the watches so he'll probably know a guy.

>Finally, what made you choose the sapphire sandwich over the hesalite?

It's meant to be "one and done" watch for me so I picked something that's more practical. The display case back is cool af too.

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>>18524975
G R E E N

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R E D

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>>18525003
>Have you seen either in person?
They're JDM, so it'd be rather expensive to go see them in person... The blue here on the photos isn't exactly my favorite anyway so I'm leaning on black, i know from personal experience that Seiko dials are notoriously hard to photograph and shift their colors a lot...

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B L U E

day 9 of waiting for the rolex AD to call me back

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G R E Y

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>>18525098
W H I T E

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B L A C K

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Should I buy this as a dress watch

don't get me wrong, i love my speedmaster but seeing all the pics of it in here is making me feel like it's become a bit of a meme, sigh

>>18525114
You’re not wrong, it IS a meme. It’s still a very decent watch, but because it’s babby’s first “real” watch and because so many sticky virgins make the Speedmaster their whole personality, it carries a bad reputation.

Fortunately, no one in the real world knows about any of this and, even online, the sticky people are really active posters so you won’t have to take too much shit.

>>18525114
>it's become a bit of a meme
Become?

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>>18525114
oh I'm so sorry you bought one of the most popular, if not the most popular luxury sports watch and you just found out. your disappointed is understandable, normies like myself should be forbidden from buying YOUR watch
>>18525118
isn't making your personality around any watch gay?

now seriously: what the fuck is your problem?

>>18525112
See if you can haggle them down

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R8 my collection.

>>18525159
Starting from top, going left to right:
Shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit

I rate it LickingAStreetInMumbai/10

>>18525159
2.5/10
You get points for the Marathon and the Tissot, those are cool.
The rest is horrible, especially the fake Rolex. No one who could afford a GOLD Rolex would wear any of the shitters you wear otherwise, so you're just signaling yourself as a cope fag and a fake person.
The Addiessive looks horrible, the "android" is like a 45mm from the look of it, it's migrant/flea market territory.

tldr; i'd keep the Marathon and the Tissot, get rid of the rest, and wait untill i can afford a proper third watch for a good 3 watches collection

>>18525159
I am speechless.. For the lack of better worlds, your collection, my friend, is pure class.

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I like collecting watches, but, as many before me, I reached the conclusion that I don't want to regularly wear more than three watches. In fact, I end up wearing pic related for the vast majority of the year. So much so that other watches feel "off" to me. When I hear or read or think "watch", I associate it with the feeling of the white birch. It's probably a sign of me having found what I'm looking for in life and have no need to look no further.
I still enjoy reading and talking about watches, about innovations or clever designs, but I stopped thinking of acquiring another one.
Friends of mine have done kinda the same. One is wearing his Tank and Santos back to back while he owns at least 30 watches in his collection, another one is wearing exclusively his orient, and I haven't see another friend of mine wear anything but his panerai carbon for at least 6 months now.
Is that what "exiting the game" feels like?
I only wear my moser on special occasions and my tudor when I'm doing rough things like mountain hikes or sports.

>>18525370
>Is that what "exiting the game" feels like?
No, it’s what realizing you spent money foolishly feels like, you dumb fuck.

>>18525370
In a way, watches are like wives.
Sometimes, you know you've found the one, but yet you still look around and want to try others.
The way people act about watches is the same they do in a relationship, some people have a personality to look for something new, something better and can't enjoy what they have.

>>18525099
bussin'

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>>18525035
Thank you, SpeedyChad - I appreciate your real-world thoughts on this. I'm glad the watch fits well, and that the bracelet does feel good. I've tried on the watch numerous times, and the bracelet is superior to the older one by a fair margin. Regarding the servicing - don't worry about it; I only mention it because my watchmaker is older and wasn't trained by Omega in the co-axials, so it has always been something in the back of my mind. I've had great experiences with my Omega AD with regards to servicing, but it seems that it's regionally dependent. Some people have complaints, especially in the US, so it's a give and take. There are independent watchmakers who are trained with Omega co-axials, of course, so it's just a matter of research and finding someone you trust.

I was thinking Sapphire Sandwich too, but only because I don't have one. Also, I like the applied Omega logo, the polished areas of the bracelet, and seeing the movement. Yours looks great, wear it in good health!

>>18525096
What watch are you waiting for? I think my Rolex AD was a little irked that I bought my SeaDweller used on the grey market...but it's not like they'd sell me anything I wanted anyway. Their servicing is impeccable though...

>>18525114
I think it's because I'm heavy into them (I have 5) that you're seeing lots of pics of them right now. Here, have a great Reverso instead. Did you post a pic of your Speedy?

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>>18525118
Bad reputation? That's the first I've heard of it. True, it's usually one of the first 'real' watches that a non watchgeek will buy, but it's because it has a combination of elements that are appealing at an affordable price. You can get an 1861 for around 3.5 or 4kUSD, and it's got the moon connection (tangentially, but still there), a design that is iconic and legible, and recognizable in the watch community. What other watch has those things (history, price, and respect)? Submariners are more expensive, and although the Bulova was worn on the moon, the modern Bulova has the design shell but a quartz movement. Granted, it's much more affordable, but will not have the respect in the community due to the lack of a mechanical movement.

As for people making a watch 'their whole personality', I'd agree to that for sure. You see the same thing with the Paneristi, or Rolex owners who are 'building their relationship' with their AD. Human nature.

>>18525370
Yes, it does CredorChad. If I reduced my collection to what I wear the most, it's the 1966, the Holy Grail, and 'everything else'. If I were near water more often, I'd wear the Seamasters or the Rolex more, but quite honestly I could be quite happy with just the two Speedies. The thing that makes me happy however is having the variety to choose from. If I feel like something dressy, I can do Reverso, and if I feel like something precise, I can go Citizen. In other words, I have variety to assuage my mood. I do seem to require this, but I haven't bought a watch in a while because I seem to have hit the point where I have a watch for every mood requirement. I've looked at Zenith, more Omegas, but they all feel like variations on a theme to me now, and I have the ones that I truly want anyway. So, maybe you're at the point where your choice hits the mark for you at this point in life where you live now. Enjoy this moment, because watches are taken care of in your life.

>>18525416
Based Omega chad

>>18525416
Budget 7K
Which Zenith would you recommend? Something that's easy to maintain btw, forever. I guess Zenith are the Kings of keeping components, but humour me anyway.

>>18524844
yes because at that point i migjt as well just chill in the "shitter" category and put my cash into the S&P

unironically make 140k remote and have no expenses cause i just live in my apartment in europe or with my burger gf or in cheap countries and cant justify blowing 5k on a fucking watch. seems straight retarded to me even if i really like watches

why not just chill in repland and homageland if chinks are touching all watches anyway lmfao

>>18525480
Before or after taxes? 140k in Germany are like 60K after taxes which is still impressive but yeah.

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Kofe time.

We need to ban Russians.

>>18525591
We need more watch posting

>>18525490
He's probably talking about 140K crypto and hiding it from German authorities.

>>18525591
this

>>18525405
I like the idea of the Reverso. I would go in public with the watch clearly visible, but turned around. Other people should not be able to read the time from MY watch. If anyone would ask me the time I would just tell them to stop being a bum and get a watch!
What a brilliant timepiece this is.

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thoughts on this Omega Swatch collab?

>>18525662
Plastic quartz shitter, badly made, with hysterically terrible strap. Looks cool though.

>>18525663
>Plastic
umm it's ceramic actually

>>18525669
Sure it is buddy.

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Taking the Serica camping. Olive NATO. Fugg it

>>18525710
>minutes
>HEURES

>>18525710
Chad af

>>18525712
The French have many names for prostitutes

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Kofe time
The crystal is fucked up, but then again I've been using it as a daily for 4 years now. It does make me wonder how i can avoid this on my other Weekdater, any ideas? Could i order a custom sapphire crystal with the same dimensions as the acrylic one? Like, would someone be able to make one if i provide an acrylic one? Could you even fit a sapphire crystal in there?

>>18525710
Geez that looks messy with those round plots reaching towards the center.

>>18525730
Based

>>18525730
My man I think your best bet is just buying acrylic crystals and polishing + replacing them.

>>18525730
Acurirycu gorassu

Where is 24h clocks?

>>18525782
>gorassu
???
>>18525780
I can't polish this one, a few gashes are like a millimeter deep. I suspect the dimensions are pretty standard, or thereabout, since the last time i had the watch serviced they replaced the crystal for free without me even asking for it. It's not the same as it was though, it's a bit taller.

>>18525864
>>gorassu
Ah yes, i get it now.

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>>18525405
was sorta thinking about swapping this guy for the one with the white dial

re rolex - waiting for either a stainless sub or gmt

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>>18526024
Based.

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>>18526027
Double based.

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This is my favourite watch of all time.
It's a cheap seiko homage shitter. If I knew how to service the Omega movements i'd get the Cosmic 2000 this was based on.

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>>18526052
Omega for reference

>>18525730
I substituted acryllics for sapphire many times over. If the crystal width and thickness is correct, it's an easy swap. Flat to domed and vice versa is also possible. Often times people get hung up on OEM parts but frankly fuck em, if you're not intending on selling get the best spec crystal possible and get it swapped.

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>>18525733
I agree. The 6190 is peak for aesthetics

>>18526102
I actually agree. I don't know why. Wanted to say something negative but it's one of those watches that instantly clicked.

>>18526053
How much is that and why are you scared of the movement? It actually looks amazing too.
>>18526036
>>18526027
>>18526025
>>18526024
>>18525923
It's been a while since I've seen masterpieces like that being posted back to back. Thanks for sharing

How do I cope with the fact that I'm retarded and will never afford a Rolex or an Omega?

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>>18526102
>>18526174
i'll say something negative on your behalf, the gap on the band between the face is unacceptably ugly in poor taste. for a watch at that price it should be flush.

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>$1000 is entry level price nowadays

this hobby has gone completely insane

>>18526204
Entry level is way bellow 1000 what are you talking about

>>18526201
That's how bonklip bracelets are supposed to be, dumbass.

>>18525662
It's fucking horrible. Just get a real speedmaster or at least a rep
>>18525923
This doesn't look too shitty. It's like a swiss made seiko or casio with those big numbers

>>18526212
just because its supposed to look retarded doesnt make a difference, it looks retarded. it's not a viceroy or a 30s CW dixy and son, looks like trash.

>>18524767
Rolex IS mass market

>>18526305
Bro only 1.2 million get sold every year. It's extremely niche and exclusive

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HAQ bros, where you at?

the fact apple watch is even on this chart invalidates it, let alone the fact it is not at the very bottom. many things are absent, seiko casio timex don't deserve to be slandered. the arent shitters, just for the average layman. this is a ragebait chart.

>>18526174
To put it blunty, any vintage Seiko movement is not only easy to service but also replacable since they are all compatible with the NH movements.

Omega movements are in comparison far more fickle and annoying to get replacement parts for - every single Cosmic i've seen was trashed like a motherfucker whereas these cheap seiko 7009 can be found in mint condition, fairly easily. They are also kind of overpriced for what they are at this point - mostly due to the Omega namesake.

>>18526336
>this is a ragebait chart.
Of course it is, bitteranon doesn't know how to speak a positive language, only negative.

>>18526065
>Often times people get hung up on OEM parts but frankly fuck em, if you're not intending on selling get the best spec crystal possible and get it swapped.
I don't care, i intend to daily the watch and practicality is what matters to me.

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>>18526305
The "luxuriousness" of Rolex is generally overrated (oh wow you made an incomplete calendar and it only took you 30 years, congratulations you are now on par with where everyone else was in the 90s), that's one thing to keep in mind but as far as UN is concerned they have a few things over Rolex :
>UN is in another universe when it comes to complications
>UN has better craftsmanship, as in they have craftsmanship in the first place whereas Rolex is pretty much entirely made by machines and operators
>UN has a history of innovation in recent years which is worth mentionning. See how everyone is moving to silicon hairsprings? They did it first.
>lesser known brand so you can have something that's not going to be on the wrist of every 50-something having a midlife crisis
It comes with some drawbacks though :
>lesser known brand so nobody will know or care what your watch is aside from turbonerds who will likely just know about the Freak
>"unique styling" aka most of their watches look horrendous and are huge
>all-proprietary for an independant brand, meaning service will take forever and cost a ton
>prices are not very competitive. Their least expensive watches (time and date titanium Diver with a home-built ETA with modifications thus likely to be some end of stock and soon to be discontinued ; and Torpilleur in steel, date and power reserve) are 8k and 10k at retail. I don't need to tell you that you have "better options" if you care about specs
>no value retention whatsoever if that's something you care about
Are they "more luxurious" than Rolex? I would say yes, easily.
Are they CONSIDERED more luxurious than Rolex by most people? No, because most people have a seriously inflated idea of how luxurious Rolex is, and no idea of what makes Ulysse Nardin what they are. And a lot of their models won't have a "luxurious look" at first glance. ESPECIALLY their divers which are mostly titanium

>>18526379
didn't read

>>18526379
What does the part in the bottom right do?

>>18526211
for swiss shitters and microbrands larping in the same tier it's $1000

see oris, longines and etc

>>18526204
Entry is under $500, see >>18524844
under $50 even.

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This is my aesthetic.
Recommend me a watch under $1500, my Casio works fine when I'm working but it would be nice to have a better option lying around.

>>18526475
Casio f91w

>>18526475
Hamilton khaki

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>>18526475
>Doug DeMuro core
I'd try to raise your profile, giving you a car enthusiast backstory.

There's too much talk and opinions on watches here.
just give me the tldr and tell me, what is the best watch?

>>18526548
Rolex Explorer

>>18526548
Casio f91w

>>18526548
Royal Oak
Seiko 5
F91W
Orient Bambino
Rolex Submariner
Omega Speedmaster
Grand Seiko Snowflake
Patek Philippe Cataltraba 2497
Seiko Quartz-Astron
Credor Eichi II
Zenith El Primero
Cartier Tank
Panerai Luminor / Radiomir
BP fifty fathoms
IWC Portugieser
Lange 1
Breguet Clasique
Any of those is the correct answer.

>>18526475
tissot seastar 1000

>>18526562
Half those watches are shit, you failed to answer to a simple question.

>>18526566
He's not half wrong, he's half right. That's better than most watches are accurate.

>>18525084
I'm visiting Japan in October, should I get one of these? Any other models to check out? It would be cool to get a JDM only model

I need a JDM GADA minigrail and I need it now.

>>18526568
>visiting Japan
What for?

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>>18526568
>should I get one of these
Yes.
>Any other models to check out?
I don't think so, it's top of the line, unless you want to go cheaper in stainless steel, picrel.

>>18526588
>minigrail
>he doesn't have a micrograil and a nanograil yet
ngmi

>>18526568
I mean, there are probably a hundred different JDM models out there, who knows what you're going to find.

>>18526551
>>18526557
Which one is better?

>>18526605
The f91w is more accurate

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>>18526548
Weekdater

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>>18524702
Got my first real watch after a decade of Casios. Thought on Certina?

>>18526626
Solid everyday watches for solid men, something like that. It's nothing special, well i do like the color to be frank, and it'll serve you well.

>>18526626
It's not a real watch. Yours not even mechanical.

>>18526623
I have seen this watch here a couple of times. I think it is time for you to substantiate your claims. What exactly makes this the best watch?

>>18526633
I like it the most out of all the watches, therefore it is the best.

>>18526629
>>18526633
Go back to your thread, bittercel.

>>18526551
>Rolex Explorer
i think it's really pretty. initially i didn't love it because the fluted bezel of the datejust, which i adore, turned me off to rolex's smooth bezel. all that said, if i were going to go rolex i'd want to get one of their more iconic pieces (although to be fair those are much harder to get from an AD)

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New G-Slop has arrived and it is excellent

Another quality watch from the only watch makers who matter

>>18526626
Great colour
Band looks solid which is important
And if it's quartz then it's a real watch and not a LARP piece

>>18526751
Has it been 30 minutes already?

>>18526751
Invicta colab?

>>18526775
It's huffing gasoline collab.

I have a question.
Could i get a list of all the different elements used in a mechanical watch, say a bog standard Seiko 5?

>>18526800
Or a Rolex Explorer. Or some other normal automatic watch.

>>18526766
I've not set it to my local time
>>18526775
Haha lmao
It may look similar to on but it in fact was not made from aluminium foil

>>18526551
Yup.

>>18526562
>Cataltraba
try again

>>18526800
There are plenty of so called introductions that only make sense once you understand everything already so they're a waste of time even though they're attractively short, your best bet is to read this till the end and yes it's long but it's extremely well made and worth it and you'll get a real understanding of how everything works https://ciechanow.ski/mechanical-watch/
On the more practical side this series is good https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvMdYdz6a-tFD_GIFjiV4zj48nSfFOOky but it's more about disassembly and service than teaching you how everything functions
Oh and you're in the wrong thread this one is /soc/ with luxury goods for for midlife crisis spergs