WATCH THREADWATCH THREADWATCH THREADIf you post a Citizen or a Seiko in this thread, your mom will be raped by a pack of black gentlemen tonight.The place to actually discuss watches, free of avatarfagging drama, including bittercelposting, pics of food or drinks, or long-ass stories about your lives.>Your budget>Preferred brand or manufacture>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot, etc>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz, etc>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, chronograph, etc>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet, etc>Wrist size or desired watch sizePrevious thread: >>18524101
Pick one.
>>18529142That dial is a hot mess. It makes no sense visually or logically. Your eye bounces all over the place like to make any sense of it. It's like "Two, Wednesday, March, some seconds, five minutes past, uh no five o'clock with, ah fuckit."Also the little signature that's all like loose and off the hip like they were signing an oil painting doesn't fit in with the rigid display.Big nah from me dawg.
>>18529149The calendar is the more technically impressive piece but the Mirage is completely unique. That’s the one I’d have, though perhaps in a different color scheme.
>>18529149See, now on the one on the right the "berneron" signature/logo makes sense with that design language.
>>18529154> That dial is a hot mess. It makes no sense visually or logically.It’s not well-designed in terms of empty space. It almost feels like the case is too big for the movement, even though we know that’s not the case.In terms of readability, though, it’s a piece of cake.Top-down is time, left-right is date.>5:10 and 37seconds, Wednesday the 13th of March.
A casio is all you need.
>>18529149Both fugly
>>18529155>The Mirage is completely uniqueYeah, it's totally not just a small seconds Cartier Crash.
>>18529169The crash is legible, the sloperon isn't.
>>18529169The crash doesn’t have a shaped movement. Yes, it matters.
>>18529182The original crash didn’t, correct. The newer Crash skeleton does have a shaped movement.
>>18529169>the Crash exists therefore it's forbidden to take inspiration from itVery low IQ take.Sylvain Berneron himself admits the Mirage is basically a crossover between a Crash and a Calatrava. The watch is cool as fuck and immediately recognizable. He managed to create an iconic design in an oversaturated market.
>>18529190He managed to make a functional watch with a dial and hands that don't tell you exactly what time it is. I'm not on team "just buy a Casio" but telling time is the bare minimum. Get real.
>>18529197Weird criticism. Hundreds of watches don't have indices. It's all about the design. You're missing the point entirely.
>>18529142Fridec should sue Wedmar, they exactly the same.
>>18529154>Big nah from me dawg.What did you buy with your 15K instead?
>>18529201It's not about the indices, it's about the combination of dial shape and hand shape. The Prateek Pradeep you posted is easy to read. A watch must tell time. If it forgoes indices or has skeletonization that doesn't automatically make it illegible.
>>18529209The Berneron isn't less legible than the Patek. In both case you can only guess the time by a margin of +/- 2 minutes.
>>18529220Forget about the minutes, you can hardly tell what hour it is on the berneron; where is 12?
>>18529223Right here.
>>18529232Or here. It doesn't have indices so it's entirely up to the customer choice.
>>18529232A bit more to the left but I see what you're going for.And yes you're right that the watch would work with any arbitrary point as 12, you'd just have to remember exactly what that point is, and spontaneously divide the dial into appropriate fractions when attempting to read the time.(That's the problem.)When I bought my first actual watch 10 years ago I asked my friend who is really into hot whoreology to "recommend me watches that tell me EXACTLY what time it is." The berneron is antithetical to the most basic feature of a watch.
>>18529182Why does it matter?
>>18529190Literally nobody said that, retard. The claim was that Bergeron is "completely unique." It demonstrably isn't, they made a fuckin Cartier homage and a Lange homage.
>>18529235This is the way I'd use it, and even the Crash allows for this.
>>18529253Lange homage isn't exactly what came to mind when I saw it. I thought it looked more like someone mixed together scrabble tiles from several different editions of the game.
>>18529253>Lange homageRetard.
I cannot find any info on the model or the brand. The text seems to be "René Philippe" but nothing comes up in search results. Not even ChatGPT or Meta could find it.So far I found that Bayer Philippe exists and that he was acquainted with somebody called René so it might be a collaboration release. Any ideas?
Along with that wristwatch there was this, looks in pretty bad shape.How much do you think it would cost to get it restored from the official shop? there's one of their stores near my workplace.
>>18529280It could have been a house brand.
>>18529289Like a custom requested dial signature?
>>18529295Yeah. Maybe some guy ordered a bunch for his personal business. It’s pretty common. You give them out to clients. They’re never worth much.
>>18529300That sucks, my family isn't acquainted with anyone whose name is René or Philippe so I hoped it would be a good brand watch. Still, sounds like a nice idea for marriages, like to give to the people who were invited, as a memory of the celebration.
>>18529314It’s a nice sentiment but I generally think watches make poor gifts. You can’t get rid of it, because it’s a gift, but it’s unlikely to be your taste unless it’s something generic that just about everyone likes like a Submariner or something.Every time you see that person, it’s hey will check your wrist to see if they’re wearing the watch they gave you.
>>18529319Lmfao true.
Looks like a cool one. It got a serial number in the back.
>>18529280>>18529288>>18529336All of these watches are beaten up worthless shitters and you have 0 photography skills.
>>18529280>>18529288>>18529336flea market galore
Looks like the spambot is back.
C63 or Baby Alpinist? Or something else entirely...
>>18529491I honestly like the ward dial morelorier falcon is in this same sort of classyou could look at a black bay 36 if you're feeling spendy, or get the real explorer 36mm
>>18529491The Seiko will just disappoint you. The other will feel overpriced when you realize you can get the same no name shitter for a hundred bucks on AliExpress.What is the watch you really want? Save up for that. You’ll be happier in the long run.
>>18529491>AlpinistHere we go again, what is it that you find atrractive in this watch?It's green, both fake gold and steel, the hour hand looks like a dickhead, the black date doesn't match with anything else, it's like the worst mix ever. I don't fucking get it.also thiswww.youtube.com/watch?v=C-btPgPoAI8and thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaeRD5GyKHM
>>18529509>>18529533>>18529534trve...
>>18529491In that price point, I would get an Hamilton Khaki Field. There's a large variety of diameters and dial colors. Movements are good (ETA), the watches look nice on bracelet, leather strap or NATO...One of the greatest mysteries of /wt/ is why we see so many ugly Seikope with fucked up proportions and so few Hamilton.
>>18529534I don't like this unrefined brute of a "watch connoisseur". Please do not share his uploads here ever again, thank you.
Thinking about copping this, reminds me of the Rolex gmt with the meteorite dial
>>18529603yeah going with kys poorfaggot on this oneyou either go rolex or fuck off
>>18529603Is this the 15mm thick one?
>>18529604I'm on a waitlist but not going to go grey market or buy shit i don't want to get what i do
>>18529609Yes the sapphire is domed
>>18529612Yeah, that's totally why. It's just the crystal guys LMAO
>>18529612It’s also slab-sided. It wears huge on the wrist. Better to wait for Tudor to bring out new dial colors for the BB58GMT
>>18529620It doesn't just wear huge. It IS huge. There's no getting around it, it's an oversized watch. It's thicker than a lot of mechanical chronographs. It just makes no fucking sense, and the only people trying to argue it's okay are brandfags.
>>18529603Seiko is releasing the actual legit Pepsi watch
>>18529051Trash
>>18529706Good, more presence
>>18529620>Better to wait for Tudor to bring out new dial colors for the BB58GMTExactly. The only reason they’re still selling the old GMT at all is to clear out stock.
there's a clock on your phone
>>18529787But not in your mother's basement. Sar,
>>18529568eh something about them irks me
>>18529568Hamilton is caught up in their own larp pretending field/tool watches are a thing anyone needs and pumping out as many nato straps as they can as if spring bars are popping out on the battlefield in daily life.It really is a mystery why Rolex is the only brand apparently willing to fill the NotQuartz+NoDate+36mm+Steel Bracelet market and why every other brand just throws their parts bin ideas at it. Literally all anybody wants is a OP for $900. Lorier has gone from a micro brand nobody would give a fuck about, to not being able to keep up with demand, all from just appealling to this market segment.
A watch without an accuracy rating or certification is just a toy.
>>18529852>Hamilton is caught up in their own larp pretending field/tool watchesthey are, i have the black pvd khaki field, it's 100% utilitary, 100% non larp, non performative, stealth and wearable, just a watch to check the time.
>>18529142It’s been over. This kind of pricing was less than 25 years ago. Not even the 90s. It’s criminal what’s happened.
>>18529903
>>18529903You can still get watches at this price with the same quality (ie San Martin, Watchdives, Seestern), it's just that many old brands became luxury. Others didn't, like Squale, Laco, Bulova, Stowa.
>>18529280That looks like a cheapo lookalike of an old Omega Constellation.Brands that made these typically didn't last long. They were the brick and mortar equivalent of amazon/aliexpress "hommage" brands.
>>18529905
>>18529787What kind of Philistine looks at their phone for the time? Pathetic.
>>18529852I don't get what's your point but Hamilton's core collection are stainless steel mechanical no date watches in 34-38mm on bracelets.
>>18529913
Thoughts on the new Zenith?Usually i love Zenith chronos, but i dislike everything about those, the indices, the sunbdial overlap, the edges... I only like the bracelet.
>>18529959Looks cool. Too bad about the date window.
>>18529959>Thoughts on the new Zenith?It’s not new. It’s an extremely limited (60 pieces of each color) edition collaboration with a Swiss furniture maker. It’s intended to get people talking, nothing more. You can safely ignore them.
>>18529903>>18529905>>18529913These look like used prices from 50+ years ago. Is this an auction house catalog?
>>185299642001. It’s a price guide. I bought like 10 of them from the 90s and 2000s
>>18529963>You can safely ignore them.I will not. Zenith has been on my radar for quite some time now. I like the black/orange diver they've released like 2 years ago. I also like the their Revival chronograph. This new release is kino too.
>>18529706Holy fuck what a stinky shitter.
>>18529970looks better on this pic than on the renders
>i just wanna time my jog to the beach without having to carry a phone in my pocketlet me guess, you need more
Seiko Prospex go for 3K now? Are they fucking insane?
>>18529568>>18529897bought one of these recently. not my photo but it's in the mail. also bought a uncle seiko bracelet for it, a jubilee.
>>18529620>>18529706idk I already wear a speedmaster and that's similarly thick, not sure that's such a dealbreaker desu
>>18530015They have different shapes. The Speedy has a narrow mid case and a conical caseback, which helps the watch sink into the wrist. The Tudor has a wall of steel and a flat caseback.They’re not rare watches so your AD will have them in stock. Try it on for yourself.
>>18529706first time I saw a tupoor in person was at jury duty at the voir dire one of the other contestants had one and I saw how awful it looked from the side
>>18529989Meanwhile you can get a seikotona for a tenth of the price
>>18529989it's auto chrono
>>18530049yeah an auto chrono that's like 2cm thick, I'm the biggest seiko stan you'll ever meet but even I have my limits
shittertardello
>>18530058oh, did I say something that triggered someone's tripfag drama trauma response? silly me for popping into one of these threads again, I forgot they've been completely taken over by schizos who never go outside
>>18530060You’re replying to a bot.
>>18530060what's this blud howlin bout
>>18530055it's 1.5 cm
>>18529852Like a year ago Hamilton put out a fairly perfect watch as a collaboration with some japanese fashion brand>36mm>titanium>simple dialSo obviously it had to be a limited edition - we wouldn't want to actually sell good watches to too many people.
> khaki == cacawhy are fascinated with shit?
>>18530074I guess I was stupid thinking they'd eventually use this case again for a regular production watch. It seems like kind of a waste to tool up to make one run of a new case in a different material just to never make it again. Especially when this could legitimately be a best selling watch for the brand.
>>18530032I honestly can't think of a lower life form than SEIKOMODFAGS. Imagine wearing what's essentially a homage/replica shitter, except it says "Seiko" on the dial. It's like these retards are proud to display that cursed name or something. Really fucked up people. Shouldn't even be considered human.
>>18530095It’s fun if you do the work yourself. Yeah, buying a modded Seiko is a bitch move, but buying the tools and learning how a watch is put together by taking it apart is an interesting intellectual pursuit.
>>18530095imagine wanting to wear a rep instead of something that is clearly fake
>>18530112It's also a great way to test out features of a watch without having to buy something expensive. You can experiments with case diameters, dials, hands, and even complications to find what suits you.
>>18530112>>18530113>>18530116I'm sure assembling your own watch is fun, but you're missing the point.I'll just remind you what a Seikomod is:>copy of a design from another brand>dial that says "Seiko" even though none of the external parts were made by SeikoPicrel is basically a fake Patek and a fake Seiko. It also looks comically bad.
>>18530082If they can do it in the quartz (or ideally solar) and under 600 I'd buy it.
>>18530125you're buying a <$300 watch instead of a >$130k watch. of course the quality will be inferior you dolt
>>18530127You're probably not going to get a titanium swiss watch under $600. Maybe if there's a sale or something.
>>18530168
>>18530171Now convert the currencies. Also account for taxes and probably price increases to cover tariffs coming soon.
>>18530139How about buying a $300 watch that isn't trying to look like a fucking Patek, uh? Have you even thought about that, retard?
>>18530189i am going to buy a $300 watch that looks like a hulk
>>18530174I'm in Europe and travel to Switzerland for work often...
As a non-watch person, do most people even recognize your watches? Most watches look the same with a few minor differences. I don’t think the average person can spot a Rolex unless you showed them the engraving. I doubt anyone’s going to approach and say “Is that a limited edition 2001 Seiko!?” I feel like it’s a VERY niche hobby.
>>18530198Only other watch people will notice, but the "hobby" (which it's not, it's just being a victim of consumerism) is growing because of the growth of the internet, YouTubers etc. so you will occasionally run into other stupid people who spend their money similarly. I had people at work comment on my prx when it was all the rage for example and those were people that were early on their exposure to the hobby, one of them considering which Fossil to buy and also saying that he aspires to get a Rolex down the line lmao.
never buying a chink watch ever again unless i can handle it first
>>18530198metal casio F91 gets more mirin than autos
>>18530192I really want to buy pic relatedBut I interact with people and go to places where they actually own the real thing and don't want to get clowned lol
>>18530196Still more than $600 US.
>>18530276Just get a seiko or something.
>>18530296I said 600.
>>18530301Then what did I say?
>>18530276fwiw rolex doesnt have any pieces that look like this
>>18530317Because it's tudor homage.
>>18530325tudor doesnt have mercedes hands
>>18530337>>18530325nor crown guards for that matter
>>18530337>>18530338as expected, the retards in the watch thread have absolutely no clue about watches
>>18529208A convertible.
>>18530337YOU don't have mercedes hands.
>should I buy this fugly inaccurate Seiko or this grotesque Rolex homage chink shitter?Fucking hell.This is the reason why poverty should be considered a mental illness.
> Seiko> inaccuratecope
>>18530360Imagine coming here, of all places, to talk about watches. Topkek my friend.
>>18530414
Why Seiko quartz so accurat but Seiko atomatk not so accurat?
>>18530432Quartz is inherently more accurate. Seiko quartz isn’t more accurate than any other brand’s. Mechanical movements, however, require a lot more QC and Seiko does basically none of that.
>>18530432automatic one has more battery
>>18530432Seiko's official tolerance for accuracy is much more lenient than the average Seiko movement, hence why most of the time people sperg about how great they are, but every once in a blue moon someone bitches that it sucks, and they send it off to Seiko and Seiko says there's nothing wrong
>>18530432Pretty much any automatic watch under 500 will not be regulated from the factory, so some people get lucky with +/- 2 seconds while others will be +/- 30 seconds
>>18529706>>18530015>that's similarly thickthat's what your girlfriend told you anon?
Bittercel going off his rails in the main thread lmao
>>18530437>>18530469Personally, I don’t like the idea of of an accuracy lottery. Treat the worst case scenario as what you’re willing to buy.If a company says they are good to within 5spd, then I would only buy that watch if I were comfortable with 5spd, not hope for 2spd and pray I get lucky.
>>18530523If all the watch needs is a simple regulation you could take it to just about any watch store and have it adjusted in a few minutes for under 50 dollars.
>>18530469honestly if its not a chronometer you should be happy with +/- 30that's basically the spec for ETA
>>18530544It’s rarely just a matter of simple regulation when a movement is out of adjustment. Adjustment is much more time consuming and skill intensive.If the watch is out of adjustment, no amount of regulation will make it run satisfactorily.
>>18529706what's inside a thicc shitter like this? the movement can't be so big, can it? is it basically a brick with a cutout for movement?
>>18530563That movement was not well designed and was quite thick. Even if they made the watch as thin as possible (flat crystal, no regard for water resistance, etc) they could have made it thinner than 13.5mm or so.The real terrible part is that there are methods watchmakers can use to try to hide some of the thickness. (See the Speedmaster Pro for example.). Tudor simply didn’t bother.
>>18530569No, the actual terrible part is IT'S A SHITTER! And they know it's a shitter, that's why they made a new GMT movement and new watches for it that are not as gigantic. But for some ungodly reason they still used the old movement in the new black bay pro.Not that Tudor is horrible, they make some good stuff, but they definitely have some retards making decisions in there.
fuck it im getting a prx
>>18530597I admire your courage of coming out
>>18530248cultured citizen enjoyer
>>18529169nobody cares about the crash anymore lolrip
What watch should I get with a budget of 700 USD? Something with 40-42 mm case diameter and automatic
>>18530623unironically san martin
>>18530623I'm so pissed any sinn watch is out of my budget why are they so expensive
>>18530469they are regulated
You should never buy an analog watch that costs $250 or less because you can make whatever watch you want including the cost of tools at that price.
>>18530597Just get the new steel 222.
been studying these crossthreads for a month now and my conclusion is that this one is the worst of the bunch.I can go into detail but the number one reason is that most of the interaction aren't real here. it's like you guys are playing "House", too afraid to tell what's really on your mind as if this is some kind of account linked forum. Too afraid to even post your own watch. The other thread I saw people posting Boxes instead of their watches. It's extremely weird and fake.
>>18530663It's a watch thread where posting your watch is frowned upon... Of course it's going to be bad.
>>18530636They're cheap get more money
>18530663>18530667Samefag copypasta
>>18530663I literally can't post images without adding an email address. Nice anonymous image board (lol)
>>18530623 under $200 SUR309P1 srpc17
>>18530432Seikos are on par with ETA for accuracy.They just give terrible specs numbers in order to avoid warranty claims because they know their QC is not up to snuff.On average, your Seiko will be in the same ballpark as any non-chronometric swiss movement but Seiko gives a huge tolerance within the expected specs because they know there's a very real chance Chang was having a shit day and phoned it in for an entire batch.
>>18529897>amerimutts incapable of comprehending the 24h format had to have a subdial printed on their watches
>mfw there are still "people" ITT who will defend Seiko after >>18530419 was postedHonestly that's fucking pathetic and every Seiko cucks deserve a bullet in the mouth.+45 / -35 sec. / day is UNACCEPTABLE and you all know it. You'd have to be a complete braindead retard to buy a watch advertised at these ratings. Imagine being "lucky" and getting a Seiko shitter that gains 25 sec. on average, that's still straight up unusable lmaoIf you're on a budget and looking for a "functional" watch, you basically have 3 options:>anything quartz>top grade ETA/Selita (-/+ 12 sec.)>anything COSC certified (-/+ 6 sec.)Also maybe a vintage watch from a top tier brand serviced by a good watchmaker.We've been way too soft with Seiko cucks. From now on, every Seiko cuck will be shamed and called a fucking faggot cuck.
>>18530758My AliExpress nh35 runs +6 seconds per day cased up. Sometimes you get a good movement in a cheap mechanical watch.
>>18530767You didn't get a "good movement". You got lucky with the regulation of this specific shit-tier movement, which happens.Be aware though, faggot Seiko cuck: this won't last. You'll soon start noticing variations in the accuracy of your shitter. In a few months your +6 seconds per day faggot Seiko shitter will run at +50 seconds per day. Doesn't matter though, because the bracelet will probably break before that.
>>18530776Calling it a good movement is fine. It's unlubed and runs well after a year of being worn very occasionally. Who knows how long is sat in a warehouse without the rotor moving. I don't think you can ask for much more at a sub-40 USD price point. To avoid confusion, the movement didn't come with a bracelet, and I ended up putting a tropic strap on the finished watch. I just keep the watch in my parts tub these days since 36mm looks too small. As far as Seiko goes I love my SCED037. Seiko watches are cool.
>>18530758>comparing entry seiko to top movementsof course the christjew would be a lying piece of shitlet's see entry swiss>The accuracy of a Sellita SW300 has a tolerance of ±12 to ±30 seconds per day>ETA Standard ±12 to ±30 seconds per day
>>18530789>he doesn't know about the 4 grades of ETA/Selita movementsFAGGOOOOOOOOOT
>>18530767it's funny how a $20 movement is on par with whatever swiss shit
>>18530776mine was 2spd was I lucky too?
>>18530820Yeah, after assembling that watch I decided I'll only get a spring drive or lange because flimsy Swiss movements aren't anything special. I still like the idea of having a Swiss steel tool watch to use as a daily beater.
>>18530822>wasWhat happened?
thin/small watches are for homos
>>18530741The inner 13-24 single-handedly ruins the Khaki Field, makes it too cluttered and as a bonus gets the "hi I can't count past 12"-factor.
>>18530840Post yourself
>>18530852Well, the dial design WAS for 18 year old Americans who needed to learn 24 hour time in the military. Historically, it makes sense. Americans weren’t very smart back then either. They were just a little nicer and a lot less fat.
>>18530853Look up watch hookah.png at warosu.
>assemble shitty rolex clone from chinese aliexpress parts>wow this is as good as it gets only a lange could top thishow can one man be so delusional?is this the "poorfag cope" you guys keep talking about?
I really can't wear the 2100BCE but I could have it on clothes
>>18530863show me the watch
>>18530863That's literally what happened. I have a SKMEI, a cool casual Seiko, and a tool watch. I want something that's actually nice and after looking at all the options in boutiques I have no interest in anything but a lange. Making an AliExpress watch killed Rolex for me.
>>18530857No
>>18530871Here is the watch. I call it "Rolex, but good.">no magnification bump glued onto the crystal>no essay on the dial>dauphine hands>ice blue sunburst dial (actually a seiko dial)>total cost: less than 100 USD>runs within COSC standards :^)I got the dial and date wheel in Arabic so I could learn their numerals, but that only took about 30 minutes lolI didn't start wearing it long-term because: >36mm feels too small. The watch gets lost in the strap (and I tried many straps).>fluted bezel is too reflective/flashy in direct sunlight>case design is too boringOverall it was a really fun experience, I lost almost all my respect for 95% of watch brands, and I dodged a bullet by not wasting my time/money on an actual rolex which is basically worse in every way (except the air king 5500 which is unfortunately even smaller, but if it was 38-39mm I'd buy one).
>>18530922ugly shitter
>>18530985Agreed, just like all Rolex cases.
I'm gonna say something nobody has ever said before.I quite like Accutron.
>>18531045And this one.
my samsung watch 5 is more accurate than all of youre shitters by the way. it also doesn't require any maintenance apart from charging it every 3 days at night in my bedroomwhy should i be wearing a tick tock watch, again?
>>18531052gears are cool
>>18531052I'd get a smartwatch so I can change the faces and not own 50 fucking shitters. You know watchfags can't stop at one watch. But you have to upgrade eventually so you'll just have 3 shitters instead of 50. Also a real watch face is better since it's actually real and not pixels.
>>18530896Same here.I used to have a large collection but once I realized that they’re all basically the same, I started to get rid of them.Nowadays, I wear a Garmin most of the time. I kept my Cartier Tank LC for when I want to dress nicely. I kept my grandfather’s Rolex because it’s an heirloom. I never wear it, though.
>>18529142Sup
>>18531402Don’t make your dog wear a watch. The dog doesn’t like it.
>>18531402bussin' boomercore
>>18531330Based ascended seeker of meaningful chronometers.
>>18530922Jesus that's fucking pathetic, kys
>>18531528Looks better than most watches.Post a watch you assembled.
>>18531402post your cock
>>18531530>Looks better than most watches.It's the ugliest watch in this thread, you delusional retard. The proportions are completely off, it looks cheap as fuck and the aesthetic choices you made are all over the place. It's literally a chink fake Rolex you can buy on some shady market in Mumbai lmao.>Post a watch you assembledThis isn't something to bloat about you idiot. A while ago I went to a lutherie workshop to make my own acoustic guitar. It's a fun thing to do but you won't hear me say I make better guitars than Gibson and how Gibson is a fucking scam.
>>18531549Anon you is a retard
>>18529142How bad of an idea would it be to stretch a budget to the absolute max and buy a H Moser and Cie? It would be a never sell kind of watch because would technically be a gift (wife gives me some money, I don’t tell her how much it costs and I put the rest on top) Will H Moser fizzle out and end up impossible to get parts for? Or will they turn more into a FP Journe and really obtain critical acclaim with prices going through the roof?
>>18531557The latter is more probable.also consider the fact that wt held Moser to the highest regard until bitterjeet decided to remote it from his charts after whoreanon got one.
>>18531559I have no idea who whore anon is haha. You can get the 40mm Pioneer for about the same price as a Rolex Submariner around my neck of the woods. Buy a Sub would be a real good watch for what I would be after, like a rest of the life and give it to a kid kind of watch.
>>18531557i dont see why it would fizzle outat worst a conglomerate would buy it out, plus i dont see the meylan's being as delusional as fp journe
>>18531557Terrible idea for a "never sell" kind of watch.Moser has that very specific post-COVID microbrand design language that makes them inextricably linked to the early 2020s (flashy dial colors, futuristic vibes, etc).Every watch reflects its own era in some way, and some eras just suck. Moser’s design language is going to age like milk because they'll remind everyone of the 2020s watch bubble and awful microbrands like Studio Underd0g, Ming, Maen and all that crap. It's already happening btw (terrible resale price, serious watch collectors don't care for it, etc).Also they’re thick as fuck. The Pioneer is 12mm for a time-only watch, which is fucking ridiculous for a brand pretending to be high horology.0 chance they turn into the next FP Journe lmao
>>18531570I appreciate the opinion fren. Next Franck Muller- that being said, were never hyped so much to start with. If I was a rich cunt, I reckon it would be a go, I’m not particularly wealthy
>>18531551Is right.>>18531549When you get your hands onto some watch parts and press your first set of hands onto a dial, maybe you'll have a moment of clarity.
>>18531579The thing with luxury watches is that they’re little pieces of engineering, symbols of wealth and fashion accessories at the same time.IMO there are 3 ways to look at watches:>valuing the whole heritage vibe, the timeless classic stuff, etc>being a tech nerd, looking for the best movement, innovation, complications, etc>looking for a specific design that will match your aestheticsTry thinking about it like distributing skill points in Dark Souls when creating your character and figure out what really matters to you.I’ve got nothing against Moser or Franck Muller, and I totally get that some people fall in love with those brands. Here's my take though: if you’re looking for one watch to wear every day, you’re better off going with timeless classics like a Rolex Datejust, a Speedmaster, a Cartier Tank, a Patek Calatrava or whatever.By definition, a timeless classic keeps you from making any major screw-ups both in terms of the technical side and the design. These watches have proven themselves over the years for very good reasons. If you walk into a room full of the world’s top collectors and watchmakers with a Submariner on your wrist, no one’s gonna laugh at you. It’s also the kind of watch you’ll have no trouble selling later if you have to.
Funnily enough, I think making your own watch is based and very soulful. Unfortunately, the watch you created is gaudy and clearly the result of a mind that lacks direction. For example, you went with a sunburst dial and a fluted bezel. That was overkill. You can't have multiple flashy features; pick one. Another mistake, you went with a weird black, plastic strap on a watch that is meant to be refined. Lastly, you went with Arabic numerals across the whole watch without considering the European numerals (for lack of a better term) at the minute markers. Your design language is all over the place. I encourage your creativity, but I implore you to try again.
>>18531594I think I’m just going to get a submariner to be honest, either that or a Tudor Pelagos 39. The Tudor would fit in well because my wife could fit the bill for the whole thing (which I know doesn’t make sense, it is our money, but the sentiment is there) But I’m leaning towards the submariner, my brother who I’m very close with and is also into watches owes me some money, so I have spun it to my wife to give my brother the money and the money he owes me that he now has liquid is enough for the slightly more expensive watch (would just bank transfer him the extra to go but it for me)
>>18531594>they’re little pieces of engineering, symbols of wealth and fashion accessoriespeople only care about the middle and the last parts btw
>>18531606You're wrong. The average buyer loves having a transparent case back, even on his $500 Baltic shitter that uses some chink potato movement.
>>18531603Like I've said before, the watch was created to test out features. I wouldn't wear any watch with a fluted bezel, regardless of dial. I wouldn't wear a 36mm or smaller watch, I wouldn't wear a watch that didn't have some visual interest to the case flanks like tapering or satination. The strap I've changed several times, and it doesn't fix the other issues. One thing I REALLY like are the dauphine hands, as they're peaked down the center as opposed to the hands you'll see on a GS which are flat with beveled edges. It's also my only watch with center seconds, which I don't feel strongly about either way. Lastly having a date window is extremely useful. My most worn watch doesn't have date and as I get older I feel that checking the date is something I need more often than checking the time. I also hated the fact that it's automatic. I wasn't wearing it much and having to unscrew the crown to wind it was a pain. Manual wind watches are more fun, but a power reserve indicator would also be nice. So I'm looking for a watch with date and power reserve that isn't mass-produced slop and ideally has an in-house movement, because buying and finishing a movement isn't impressive to me. Any recommendations?
>>18531604How are people this stupid? If you have to do so much accounting to buy a stupid piece of jewelry you can't afford it.If your brother had financial trouble in the range of 5-10k, which is literally nothing in western countries, you have no business buying a Rolex, you're just a victim of advertising.Holy fucking shit, leave to poor people to make sane financial choices.
>>18531665The man already has a wife. There isn't really much you NEED to spend money on past that point, you just have to save some money for your offspring.He's making it.
>>18531668>The man already has a wife.>There isn't really much you NEED to spend money on past that point.Sweet summer child lmao
>>18531665He didn’t want to lose thousands of dollars in bonus interest from his savings account and he was in between jobs because he was sick for a few months bro, gave him a few thousand until he got better and got a new job so he didn’t have to transfer from his savings and not accrue thousands in interest. I’ve got $100k cash, $100k in stocks and $100k in retirement brah, I’m not even 30 yet, I can afford it. I’d buy it myself, but my wife wants to buy me something, but I’ve got to do some creative accounting because her budget ain’t the same as what I want to spend.I’ve owned two Rolex’s before, sold them after a few years
>>18531670If you can afford to have wife and offspring you've probably got everything in your life settled, no? No harm in emptying out the change jars to buy a watch.
>>18531671Wtf watch guys are THIS POOR??I thought this was a rich fag hobby, not some lover middle class flex fest.
>>18531580ali express shitters are just that shitterseven in the pic you can see the metal is shiti'd rather have a casio
>>18531675Richfags just wear ipod watches in current year. Exceptions are made only for mechanical watches that are marketed at sports events.Mechanical watches are for autists and "horology influencers" that try to make it seem mainstream.
>>18531677Casio is overpriced and their straps break before the first battery change. SKMEI is where it's at.
>>18531678I think you actually nailed it.
>>18531675I wouldn’t even call myself middle class bro, I’d say I’m working class, I don’t think it is particularly relevant, my favourite watches are vintage Japanese watches
>timeless>beateris it possible to achieve both?
>>18531686Rolex Explorer.
>>18531686Yes.
>>18531686Omega Speedmaster Professional Cal1861(on a $2 nylon strap)
>>18531686any steel rolex, especially ones before maxi cases and ceramic bezels were a thing
>beater>$8000
>https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/rolex-to-host-president-trump-at-us-open-final-in-hopes-of-diplomacy-win-amid-swiss-tariff-dispute>Rolex To Host President Trump At U.S. Open Final In Hopes Of Diplomacy Win Amid Swiss Tariff DisputeYou really can't get more BASED than Rolex
>>18531715haven't been on /fa/ in a whilesame goes to you lads
>>18531720Today I found out that hodinkee often incorrectly identifies the watches it sells, tricking customers into buying the wrong watch. Now after reading about this it struck me that the hodinkee guy who I've seen in some lange videos doesn't look like a gentile, if you get what I'm saying.Nothing in the Early Life section, but then I found an interview article in which he admits it.
>>18531730>a gentileCome again?
>>18531603>I think making your own watch is based and very soulfulThat is IF you are making you rown watch and not buying parts from aliexpress to assemble.
>>18531678>Richfags just wear ipod watches in current year. Exceptions are made only for mechanical watches that are marketed at sports events.It’s true. The classic trio of daily-dress-beater has been replaced with:Apple WatchDress watchFlashy watch (like a Richard Mille or APRO)
It's always hilarious how /wt/ (and more generally /fa/) believes rich people is just a homogenous group of individuals with the same taste and habits.>Bill Gates is wearing a Casio? That means all billionaires wear Casio and luxury watches are for poorfags!Okay but what about the guy running Black Rock wearing an ALS tourbillon or Zuckerberg who turned into a watchfag over the last 2 years?Rich people are as diverse as any other groups. Some like to flex, others don't care. Some have taste, others don't.
>>18531730That's Dufour is so nice
>>18531754do i have to be smelting my own steel as well? raising a cow for a single strap of leather? fuck off retard
can anyone tell me what watch this is?
>>18531787I wasn't talking about celeb-tier richfags. I forgot you need to have $40b in assets to be considered rich on /fa/.I meant people that can afford 2 or more cars and would've had several expensive watches ($5000+) in the 2000s or earlier. Especially so with younger rich people, who also often have fitness trackers, it seems.
>>18531800You have to separate the iron from your own blood to make it
>>18531756I'm not even sure if it's a trio. When you go to a nice place for dinner, you'll see sport watches at best. Only boomers and autists would own a dress watch in current year.
>>18531812if having 2 cars is rich then basically every oxycodone-addicted trailer dweller in appalachia is rich, what planet are you from
>>18531820OK anon, two (nice) cars.
My wife just called me an incel. What does that even mean? What watch should I get to mark the occasion?
>>18531827Are all your friends incels? For me, yes, and my wife doesn't like it when I call myself an honorary incel.And you should get a SKMEI 1988.
>>18531824what is the second nice car for?
>>18531836A sedan for daily commuting, an SUV for hiking/skiing trips, towing something to the lake house; and a little sports car for a fun rip (or a GT car for when you and the wife want to take a trip without the kids)
>>18531836Car 1: 2door RWD manual (mustang, m3, miata, brz, etc)Car 2: anything that has space for a baby carseatBroadly, an enthusiasts car and a family car.Same logic that applies to a two-watch collection. Something meaningful/fun just for you, and something "GADA"
>>18531805looks like panerai or hugo poedagar
>>18531827post pics of your wife
>>18531891I may be a incel from now on, but that doesn't make me a simpcuck
>>18531816>When you go to a nice place for dinner, you'll see sport watches at best. Only boomers and autists would own a dress watch in current year.Depends on how nice and what time of day.A casual lunch, even if it’s at an expensive place, permits casual dress, then you see sports watches.If it’s a jacket-required dinner, the watches get much nicer. You can tell who’s really stretching the budget if they’re wearing their Seamaster to dinner.The definition of a dress watch is also different. It doesn’t just mean “white dial, sticks or Romans, precious metal, black strap, no complications (subsecond permissible) and <34mm” anymore.Like it or hate it, but a 40mm Lange 1 is a dress watch. You see a lot of watches like that.>>18531756>Apple-dress-flashThis actually makes a lot of sense from what I’ve seen around.
>>18531787Jews are petty
>>18529142what is the highest quality everyday sports wristwatch that i can buy for around >500€and>1000€dont care for movement, if it's homage or whatever. just that it feels good on the wrist. ideally black, white, silver or light blue dial, around 40mm, but i dont mind bigger if it's thin. looks wise my favorite watches are pic related, planet ocean, aqua terra, ap ro jumbo, milgaus 1019, heuer monaco
>>18531968Hamilton.
>>18531627Check out the Longines Conquest with a power reserve. Vintage or contemporary version
>>18531968objectively, a NOMOS Club Campus
>>18532013I actually laughed out loud
>>18531671>>I’ve got $100k cash, $100k in stocks and $100k in retirement brah, I’m not even 30 yetWhy didn't you retire at 30 lmfao? You gonna work when your dick stops working? Are you on TRT/HGH? Did you get leg lengthening and min/fin/Turkey yet? Do you measure your prostate?
Thoughts on CW The Twelve?
>>18531968I would take a look at the chinese top brands offerings at that price point there's hardly any competition for them.Check out San Martin and Boderry if you don't want a clone/homage
