What are some ways to get into working broadly in the "fashion" industry? Starting a brand seems so unlikely to lead to anything but pain even with a lot of knowledge and money, much less with little of both.
Capital. That’s all it takes.
>>18541389>"fashion" industrybuddy the fashion industry is to gay guys what wallstreet/media/law/teaching/running the govt is to Jews and maybe WASPs (half Jewish through dad but not halacha). you need a rich uncle who fucked you in the ass and then maybe you can suck his buddy's cock to start your own label. if you are or have rich people investing in you you may be able to start a micro label and sell 1200 jeans out of LA. you can also do that if you're jewish.the same goes for all art and all design and literally just everything that isn't shudra tier labor. now, how to do you actually get a good job as a white man that doesn't involve sucking up to some established cabal or being rich? being a craftsman and selling that craftsmanship for dimes on the dollar to those people for them to turn into a commodity. you can also sell it yourself and try to compete but the algorithm will not be kind to you without giving out the odd cabal handjob.whatever you do decide to commit to, putting in the work and producing something before being paid is unavoidable. you need to have a product and everything else is just knowing people and kissing ass. if you have a good product and niche but somehow applicable product maybe, maybe you can sell it yourself and make good money while teaching yourself the skills to eventually turn that into a house and get a woman into that house to make you kids. you may even be able to squeeze selling the product by marketing insights into your process by masking as an influencer who makes clothes or shoes or furniture or whatever. people who don't get shit done (the vast majority of the human population) love to watch other people do shit. the internet is so big these days that you will find a niche somewhere. so don't despair on that front, there is enough work cut out for you elsewhere.
>>18541407>>18541465now, if you already have capital you obviously wouldn't have made this post. and having capital is mutually exclusive with actually working outside of jobs that 10x your money or uses that soft power money for hard power influence.most rich people are bored. many do work, yes. it's just that they form clan structures around the wealth meaning that only the capable work while the rest decadently jerks off all day. you don't want to mess with the latter. contrary to popular belief rich friends are awful because these jerkoffs are awful people with good lawyers.you want some relation to one of the former with a concrete business plan. and you can make that business plan when you have a product. read up on investment strategies (what to do with the money you're asking for - before you get it - for when you get it) relevant to your type of business. you can't run a company selling clothes like a silicon valley start up. so much should be obvious. there are some very technical and essentially fact ways you need to handle the money to see any growth whatsoever. gentrified dickheads ignore that when they start their boutique flour businesses and artisanal breakfast-with-a-twist shops. that is why they fail even when there is a market, which for flour might be the case, but you won't reach all the artisanal bakeries of your city when you run a mom and pop without a website, for example. stuff like that. I mean, working in the industry basically means you either want to be a glorified sweatshop tailor or you want to run your own business. there is no in between. just my two cents here in these posts from knowing too many jerkoffs with money, who ran their or other peoples' businesses into the ground
>>18541470>>18541465are you a jerkoff with money? yo wanna get me money
>>18541472if I was jerkoff with money I wouldn't post here Friday night. I'd be eating late lunch with my wonderful wife before going surfing or something. The weather is kinda shit right now. The last thing I'd be thinking about is giving some incel who's not even gay enough to suck my cock money.Buy a sewing machine and some cheap denim fabric and trying to make a nice pair of jeans. That's your proof of concept.
>>18541489how do you convince rich people to give you money without doing any of that extra shit.
>>18541470>>18541465did this money shit really matter years ago??? cuz in warrior societies, if i wanted it i would have taken it. this transactional shit is some modern day lame merchant shit.
>>18541389Honestly the fashion world is pretty parasitic. Being attractive, fashionable/LGBT with strong social positioning in your cities local arts and music scene is a strong start. Having a reputation built up around smaller creative passion projects - preferrably collaborative ones (ie. modelling shoots / zines / club nights etc)Getting a day job that positions you well such as ; trendy fashion shop, art studio assistant etc are all good since they bring in networking opportunities. Networking is 90% of your career when starting out. This gives you the social clout necessary to launch a brand or project off the back off it once you've garnered enough social karma within that community.The industry is mostly filled with people who started out as nobodies, leveraged their situation and built something slowly over time before eventually landing The Big One that cements their future. There are very few overnight viral sucesses in this industry. Sad truth time though.Fashion is a generally parasitic and toxic industry. Filled with social ladder climbers and clout chasers and people who are out to exploit, manipulate and use others.I was involved in the UK streetwear industry for a bit and had approached first stripes tier. I had enough rank I was known when I showed up to the big events by those who knew and ran the brands. People had heard my name type of thing. But because I did everything anonymously (ie. no face) - I was exposed to a lot of tedious bullshit like younger instagram photographers cropping me out of photos I was in or people just not wanting to know who I was until they saw me standing with x,y,z. Which was a bit of a joke when they were all wearing and hyping over the t-shirts I just designed for the brand.Spend long enough in the fashion scene and you realise it's a constant cycle of consumerism and trends. I moved on.
>>18541610Sounds like it’s mostly people looking for coke and sex.
>>18541465>>18541470>>18541610What if i have 0 friends and no immediate connections to the city scene? And no social media? My Grandma’s got a sewing machine though and opening up a bigcartel is a bit simpler. Start small?
>>18541610I'm actually doing some passion art project right now, but I still feel like no one knows me. How can I embed myself in a city's art scene better? Or is buttering up the instagram algorithm the only way?
>>18541615what if you dont want coke or sex?
