/balding/ and /finasteride/ general - hair is love, hair is life!Sticky: http://tuxbell.com/index.php/BaldingReminder that if you can clearly see down to your scalp when your hair is wet, your hair is thinning, lots of small new hairs sprouting at the hairline or crown is a sign of hair recession.Holy trinity:Tabs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinasterideLotion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MinoxidilShampoo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KetoconazoleFinasteride/Dutasteride are 5-alpha reductase inhibitors that prevent free T from being converted to DHT, a byproduct of testosterone that serves no purpose after puberty but to choke out your hair follicles and make them thin out and die in a few short years, a condition known as androgenic alopecia.5ar inhibitors prevent your hair from getting any worse, mild regrowth is expected, rapid onset diffuse thinners see a significant recovery on fin alone. Can be taken orally or topically.5ARIs are not dosage dependent, taking as little as as 0.2mg daily fin can reduce serum DHT by 68%, while 5mg reduces by 72%.0.5mg daily dut reduces serum DHT by 95%, but is considered a second line treatment, and can be more expensive and harder to get prescribed. Start with fin.Fin has been used to treat benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) for 30+ years, it's very well studied and is tolerated well in almost all men, however, there's a 1-2% risk of erectile issues in controlled studies.These can be avoided by reducing dosage, spacing out dosage, or stopping the drug. Fin takes days to fully bio-accumulate, the half life of fin is about 8 hours, adverse effects occuring within minutes of starting fin or persisting long after stopping fin are not real and have no basis in reality. Please note that dut has a much higher half-life of 5 weeks, if you're prone to fin sides, dut may cause them for far longer.Refer to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3481923/ before responding to PFS trolls.(continued on next post)
Minoxidil (liquid and tabs) is a vasodialator that opens potassium channels and widens blood vessels bringing nutrients to your hair follicles, stimulating them into thickening, accelerating growth and elongating the growth phase. Min is taken with fin to restore your hair to it's original hairline, thickness and vigor when hair loss is caught early enough, (pre-NW2). Can be taken orally or topically.Topical min does not work in 1/3 of men because they lack the required enzymes in their scalp, all men have this enzyme in their liver so the oral route is a good fallback.The FDA formulation for 5% liquid minoxidil is food safe (vape juice, ethanol and water) and can be safely taken orally if oral min tabs are expensive or rarely prescribed where you live. As a general rule, ~4 drops (0.1ml) = 5mg minoxidil.There's a 1-2% risk of fluid retention with higher oral dosages, start with the lowest dosage possible and work your way up when you're sure it's well tolerated.Ketoconazole is an anti-androgen and antifungal that inhibits DHT on the scalp and used to treat fungal infections of the scalp that may be making your hair loss worse such as seborrheic dermatitis, a condition where you exhibit severe greasy, flaky large dandruff flakes with dried yellow crystals (blood plasma) embedded in the scalp. Some people may only have traction alopecia (hair loss from scratching or friction), but it will not cure androgenic alopecia on it's own. Can only be taken topically.Do not use spirolactone. Spirolactone is a diuretic which, in large doses, inhibits testosterone and, by extension, DHT.It is regularly prescribed as an anti-androgen for male to female HRT, and thus, comes with an astronomically higher risk of sexual side effects in men including ED, gynecomastia, and can cause potassium toxicity.Previous thread: >>18529594
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>>18542221I swear this is the male equivalent of those shapewear things that hide your saggy cottage cheese thighs
>>18542223Yeah at that point I think it'd just be better to accept whatever bald spot he has instead of that whole routine. People age, genetics suck, but this is just childish and feminine. I saw ads in the paper the other day advertising like $5000 wrinkle removal treatments at a local plastic surgeon. Women just make up things to be insecure about I swear
>>18542221Dude calls gluing a wig to his skull "installing" it.
>>18542221That guy isn't even that far gone under the wig. This is mental illness and unhealthy vanity
Prevention is worth a pound of cure. Light and sound can harm or heal. Here are a couple things to keep in mind.https://open.substack.com/pub/solfeggio/p/the-startup-executive-who-grew-his?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=58me4k
Can fin + mino fix Norwood 3, or my only hope is a transplant?
>>18542519You lose a transplant unless you're on fin and min, so it is the answer either way.
Use spirolactone. Spirolactone is a diuretic which, in large doses, inhibits DHT.It is regularly prescribed as an anti-estrogen for female to male HRT, and thus, comes with an astronomically lower risk of sexual side effects in men.
>>18542521Yeah, but I've seen guys on reddit regrowing hair on temples, and I'm hoping I can too. Got my appointment for fin on Tuesday.
>>18542534Its possible for younger guys who haven't let their condition worsen for a decade and are experiencing a more rapid loss. Treat it at the first signs or better yet preemptively in your 20s.
what about creatine? I started fin/min this year and made some recovery. I started lifting weights over a month ago and started thinking about creatine, but I've seen a lot of fearmongering(?) regarding the creatine and hairloss.
Diffuse thinning is such a bitch.I can never tell if I have enough follicles to not need a transplant or if the meds will thicken them up enough,
>>18542664It looks like I have a lot of hairs but they're so fucking thin.
>>18542653Hedge your bets with dut if you're gonna do creatine, it's going to drive your DHT sky fucking high
>>18542525>lying in 2025sorry champ, better luck next time
Very happy with my regrowth from diffuse thinningNot the best comparison pics admittedly due to the different angles/light/my longer (and greasy) hair in the new pic but very happy considering in the last pic I tried to part my hair as much as possible to expose any bald/thin spots1st pic was my bald spot that was forming while I had similar length hair to the final photo, 2nd pic is me buzzed down right before starting my stack, 3nd pic is slightly after starting, 4th pic is my first dread shed and 5th is now 10 months laterI can really spot the difference myself when in downlighting and coming out of the showerJust under 10 months of topical fin and min and I've been slacking on my microneedling and even my dosages amount (am poor atm so been doing half dosages for my topicals to get them to last longer) so hopefully I can squeeze out a little bit more gainz to get closer to baseline next yearWent into my stack just hoping to keep what I got but I got a little extraThank you fin autists
How over is it for me bros, peep 4th pichttps://unseecc/album#aFGw9Sc4k69M
>>18542942Love to see it
>>18542963literally nobody saw your pics, the link is expired
Shedding is almost gone entirely after 7 weeks of eating at maintenance/surplus, like 90-95% gone. Mostly was TE.I guess it's not ogre yet, but definitely seems to be some mature hairline receding slowly going on, hopefully follicle cloning isnt too expensive in the cheaper countries so I can avoid the DHT Blocker Russian Roulette when I'm in my 40s.
>>18543171what russian roulette are you talking about?
>>18543207PFS is real, if it was "nocebo" like people claim, every drug would have large communities on the internet like PFS does. But they don't. It's rare, but it's real and ruins lives.
>>18543222You are severely mentally ill
>>18543222>large communitiesyou mean 1000 megaautists that spam the entire internet with their bullshit?literally the same thing with benzodiazepine PAWS communities where people convince themselves that they've had withdrawal symptoms for the last 20 years, except benzos might actually fuck up your brain chronically>t.8 year daily ex benzo addict and dut user
>>18543231I unironically am 6 years into BIND(Benzodiazepine Induced Neurological Dysfunction) from my psych tapering me off over 2 weeks.I mostly struggle with waves of severe insomnia and CNS overstimulation manifesting as jitters/poor coordination. I had Diarrhea non stop for several years but that went away fairly recently. I honestly think I just have trash genes, I know my mom smoked while pregnant woth me, and she used to be a party girl so I wouldnt be surprised if there eas a lil booze/drugs in there fucking me up in utero too. I respond negatively to many drugs in general.
how over is it im 26https://unseecc/album#iGipl7Gca2Ca
>>18543615fixable with fin
Can you get good/decent results using topical min 5% 0.5ml once a day? I'm currently using 1ml/day and getting heart palpitations. I'm thinking of cutting the dose in half or just stopping it.
>>18544137Are you microneedling? Touching your hair and then mouth thus consuming high dose oral minoxidil? The systemic absorption of 5% topical is very low, about 0.1mg and really shouldn't be causing that
>>18544139>Are you microneedling?No, I'm on fin 1.25mg every 48 hours. But I'm considering adding microneedling to my routine, once a month or something.>Touching your hair and then mouth thus consuming high dose oral minoxidil?No, I apply it before going to sleep, I wash my hands after doing so, and I don't touch my mouth or face after. >The systemic absorption of 5% topical is very low, about 0.1mg and really shouldn't be causing thatDo you think it could be an underlying condition or maybe a deficiency in something? I don't recall having heart palpitations before starting to use it. I'm planning to see a doctor for a general checkup. I kinda look like this dude's (>>18542942) fourth pic left to right, I have areas where hair is thin, and I want to add thickness.
>>18544171Is it possible that its getting on your pillow and your mouth is coming into contact with it? When dried it would turn into a fine powder which could easily cover the pillow.
How’s the hair looking, switched from topical fin and min to both oral fin and min about a year ago.
>>18544321how bad was it originally?
>>18544321>this is what a year on fin+min looks likezamn
If I stop taking fin+min will my hair fall out again?
>>18544340DHT will go back to pre-treatment levels and it'll start wrecking your hair again with massive sheds from the sudden environment shock, also your min gains that haven't fully turned terminal will start shedding and then get double nuked by the DHT.
Thoughts on rectal fin?
>>18544362cool thanks anon
>>18544379think of it this way, you would have gone bald if you didn't take it, so its not like there was some other path you could have gone down that would have kept your hair. There's nothing to regret. Didn't take it, lose your hair. Stop taking it, lose your hair.
>>18543234don't ever take DHT blockers because you're the exact kind of person who's going to give themself PFS, also reinstate benzos at a low dose
>>18542258It’s not a wig it’s a hair system
Can someone spill the tea on oral minoxidil sides? Reddit threads have got me shook. Been on fin for years with no sides, fwiw, still goon and coom several times daily.
balding is often caused by poor nutrition (including tons of carbs even if they're "healthy carbs")and your scalp muscleshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yehk_h_Uj6k
>>18544561tl;dr new theory of balding is scar tissue in the scalp from chronically pulling it taught it spikes 5a reductase, DHT, and so onDHT isn't really the problemhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yehk_h_Uj6k
>>18544559You aclimate to them over time, but if you start with too high a dose, you might get increased heartrate which keeps you up at night and possibly a huge libedo boost that also keeps you up and makes you fap yourself stupid
How do you feel about the new strat of filling in your temples with makeup to hide your sparse hairline?https://youtube.com/shorts/Loq2kH7S2fw
Im a retard with crippling self-diagnosed ADHD and executive dysfunction. Can someone please spoonfed me on if/where you can order fin/dut online? Noticed a year ago that my hairline might be receding and my hair might be thinning but have procrastinated talking to a doctor about it. Northern European region.
>>18544657 (me)Here is a post-shower picture. Jfc didnt even realize it had gotten this bad holy fuck. What else should I consider besides fin/dut? 20yo btw.
>>18544657You need a prescription from a doctor.
>>18544469Not a doctor but second this
>>18544562Your a retard if you believe this rob English is Kevin’s bitch
>>18544657Google your country with finasteride prescription online and pick one.
>>18544562>30 minutes to sell you an enhanced scalp massage technique
>receding>keep changing styles when they no longer work>eventually reach norwood 3 and decide to buzz it off>everyone either looks at me with pity or straight up tells me I look like shit and 10 years older than with the norwooding hair>get on fin and grow my hair out againI guess I can thank the reddit cope for motivating me to take my meds.
>>18544559facial swelling/puffiness/water retentiom/dark circles
which one is best/worst?
>>185450743>>>>>4>2>1
>>18544958Here I'll give it to you in a few sec3 zones, rotate through them in sequence, hairline, crown, sides think of sides as where full bald men still have hairhairline is from ghost hairline to middle of top of headcrown is the remaining areahairline and crown sessions3 min whatever just massage conventionally all over 6 min pinches, pinch the scalp skin6 min presses, with knuckles or fingertips5 min stretches, stretch small sections of scalp skin For all use moderate force, this isn't a light rub, your scalp should be sliding against your skull for theseSides: same as other session but add specifically pinches in the line where sides meet crown/hairline areas for 5 minDo next section in rotation EVERY 12 HOURS or soI have new hair in my hairline, it's been like a year and a half and it's not quite thick yet but it's getting thereI keep missing massages too for weeks at a time lately and they picked the 12 hour gap because supposedly it had the highest success with the test participantsI have done topical minoxidil since like 2014 but have been receding still all this time even with it, until now
>>18545095So is it a 25 min total massage session every 12 hrs?
>>18545023Yeah no shit I’m more wondering if that’s really happening or if it’s nocebo stirred up by melodramatic Redditors like what happened with fin
>>18545224I got it on any dose 0.5-5mg
>>18545299My oral min arrived yesterday but I’m too scared to take it
>>18545074what norwood is this? 2.5?
>>18544657if you don't wanna get a prescription and would rather risk getting bunk from a greymarket vendor, alldaychemist.com has shit. you have to pay with crypto or an e-check though, since payment processors don't wanna be involved with that.>>18544661min + (fin or dut) is like 95% of what matters. min can be enhanced a bit with tretinoin and microneedling. everything else on the market to date is insignificant or outright bunk. PP405 *might* be good when that finally becomes available. there are/were some greymarket groupbuys for "PP405" that all turned out to be the wrong chemical. sometime in the next 6-12 months, the everychem guys *might* get the real PP405 up for sale, but i wouldn't hold my breath
>>18545443On the left side yeah. Still a 2 on the right
>>18544657minoxidilexpress they got paypal/credit and precalculated taxes UK>EU
Anybody tried RU55841? Seeing it pushed on IG a lot lately. Fin gave me sides, even ones I didn’t have pre-existing anxiety about, so I don’t think it was just in my head. Some people claim they get fin sides but none from dut, so that’s the other thing I can try, I suppose
>>18545573rather go for pyrilutamide
>>18545470anyway I saved your pic because it's interesting how you can easily cover a recessed hairline as long as you have full density on top so I can just ask for 500-1000 grafts for my hairline to bring it down to norwood 1.5 ish and not have to bother with a perfect hairline anyway since I prefer longer hairstyles and I'll need so many grafts in the back anywaythx
>>18545664something like this probably requires no more than 1000 grafts I think
>>18545666meds alone would likely get you there
>>18545817also: temporal peaks are a huge deal for hiding recession
>finally get prescription for fin>$49 for 28 1mg tabsFuck this, I'm staying at norwood 2 and hoping my hair will stay that way like my dad's did.
>>18545856It's $6 for 90ct + $5 shipping at cost plus wtf are u doing
>>18545899ok the doc just wrote me the most expensive brand. I can just ask for a cheaper one when I'm at the pharmacy
>>18545920this + you can just take 0.25mg
>>18544847enjoy breaking your penis with femboysterilide
>>18545819Nta, idk if I'm an outlier or what but fin is working pretty well on my temporal peaks. One of my sides was basically straight and it's already showing a temporal peak three months after I started with the meds.
>>18546102not an argument.
>>18546135you didn't make an argument either THOUGH>erm ad hominem, england and kevin from ed edd n eddy saar
Will fin fix my diffuse thinning? It better! Otherwise I’m shaving off my eyebrows and sprinting naked into the woods to become a cryptid.
>>18546444yes, diffuse thinning is the easiest one for fin to fix
>>18546444It will slow down any further shedding but fin doesn’t regrow hairs so it depends how far gone you are already
>>18546494>fin doesn’t regrow hairsThat's a lie btw. I'm on fin only and regrowing a fuckton of hairs.
>>18546536Same, can confirm you'll get some back. I dunno if it could fix a norwood 3 but I'm like at 1-2ish and you can see the small hairs growing back, and this was taken like a month ago and I'm still gaining hairline. The short hairs facing downward used to be on a patch of scalp that was completely hairless. Well, hairless but with those tiny normal skin hairs. I think if you're not at the "completely smooth with toughened/scarred scalp" you can recover at least a bit.
>>18546494>fin doesn’t regrow hairsreddit horseshit>>18546110yeah I'm getting them back with dut too albeit slowly
>>18546536>>18546552>>18546607It definitely does not stimulate regrowth you fucking brownoid retards.
>talk to balding faggot >tell him to use min and fin >says he's using peppermint oil instead >mfw peppermint oil has nothing to do with hair whatsoever You can lead a horse to water....
>>18546158how about 30 years of the drug being on the market and the phase 3 trials. what does scalp massage have a shoddy study from 1912?
>>18546610it does if the follicle is less than 50% miniaturized. if it's dead it's dead though yeah.
>>18542218Norwood 5, thinning scalp. I stopped caring. I wear my hair like pic rel.
>>18546610I never said that + dut is just a more potent DHT blocker than fin
Fin ruined my orgasms and cum volume
>>18546750stop taking it then
>>18546774Can't decide whats worse, living like this or losing hair
Test
Lost some hair after surgery, i guess because of the meds, but doc told me they will start to grow back in a, couple of months.
>>18546610>source: me being baldhere you go retardhttps://www.oatext.com/Long-term-(10-year)-efficacy-of-finasteride-in-523-Japanese-men-with-androgenetic-alopecia.php
>>18542525quit using my pics to shill spiro you fucking jeet.>>18543228>>18543231someone should put a bullet in your head jeet.>>185450743 but 4 could be good if you actually took care of your hair.>>18546444diffuse thinning is usually not male pattern baldness. chances are fin will do nothing. you need to see a dermatologist and get a scalp biopsy and diagnosis. don't listen to the literal paid finasteride shill from india.
>>18546610the thing where they tell you that you have to take minoxidil forever or your hair falls out is bullshit too. i stopped taking it entirely a year ago and nothing fell out.
>>18546845Did you find out you were jewish or something? Indian shill just doesn't hit the same
>>18546846Not entirely bullshit but I think we need some trials exploring long term finasteride effects on long term minoxidil terminal hairs
Any tips on how to get liquid fin?
>>18546778don't be a limpdick redditor>>18546845see pic paki
>>18546881¡Ándale! ¡Arriba! is this what we are calling "white passing" now in the year of our lord Current Year?There are multiple kinds of alopecia and finasteride doesn't treat all of them. Finasteride is only for androgenic alopecia. Diffuse thinning is more often associated with telogen effluvium, alopecia areata and other conditions that aren't caused by dht/hormones. People who come in here saying they have it should be pointed towards a dermatologist not given armchair diagnoses over the internet.Hope you understand Sancho!
>>18546845Gonna cry, pigslim?
>>18546891jeet shill kill yourself 3rd world shit skin
>>18546892You will take the spirolactone. You will take your meds. You will get the job. You will get the leg lengthening surgery.
>>18546881get a mechanical roller and roll your own cigs retard. you're smoking flame retardants and other gross bullshit when you could be smoking organic locally sourced tobacco that tastes better for half the cost.
>>18546896i could kill you with my bare hands dweeb
>>18546898You’re an unemployed hundred pound gay manlet schizo freak.
>>18546898Why did you record this, pigslim?https://vocaroo.com/1dZY2z3gePI7
>>18546899yup. a 135lb trained fighter like me would manhandle you any day of the week. gonna cry shit-skin?
>>18546900because you said you want to fight me for a year and a half straight then pussied out?lol?
>>18546903It’s time for you to take your meds and get a job, pigslim. You’re pushin 40.
>>18546905what's the matter, boy? you realized you sound like a cringe faggot talking about how you'll kick an mma guy's ass all the time when you've never even been in a fight before?LOL
>>18546881Is this supposed to be the hand of a swole bodybuilder who could "murder me in one punch"?
just fuck already you two
>>18546888unpatterned diffuse thinning is it's own thing>"white passing" couldn't care less and I'm European>>18546908cute samefag
>>18546909ive already offered him a plane ticket and a $500 custom mouth guard if he can grow a pair and fight me irl since he wants to so bad.i let him go on and on about how he'll "murder me in one punch" for over a year before even acknowledging it. >>18546910i know you're not the same anon, and you're white. just goofin.
>>18546912The unemployed gay manlet schizophrenic is just goofin. That’s a relief. How do you feel about the fact that I could crush your skull?
>>18546917you couldn't though. you don't know how to fight. why do you think i want you to fly out here so bad i know it would be hilarious (for me)
>>18546920You’re a hundred pound manlet. One punch from me would be lethal.
Nobody gives a fuck about your gay slapfight. To get back on topic:I'm considering starting 0.25mg fin and 5mg min a day. if I'm gonna start feeling side effects (except for shedding, that's to be expected) how reversible are those side effects going to be if I'm gonna stop taking the meds? Or is it possible that I'm gonna have that shit permanently?
>>18546924>when i get really angry i start seeing red and black out then the bodies start droppingLOL bro you are years of training away from being able to hang with even bantamweights at my level. Quit the one punch man internet tough guy act its cringe. I am literally offering to spend my own hard earned money to fly you out because I know exactly what would go down if you were stupid enough to take my offer and let me vid it.
>>18546932The hell are you yappin about son?
>>18546935>fat beer belly guy sitting on his couch drinking light beers talking about how he could kick those scrawny ufc guys on tv's assesa tale as old as time... we got a real lolcow on our hands he genuinely thinks he could "kill me in one punch"do yourself a favor to save yourself future embarrassment...go on any mma forum, boomer facebook group, etcpost a picture of your physiquesay you're untrained first day in the gym and ask if they think you could take on a decent bantamweight kickboxeryou might have a bit of a reality check...
>>18546943This ain’t your blog pigslim. Reduce yappin son.
>>18546947son? is that how you talk to a man who could kill you with his bare hands effortlessly, boy? put some respect on my name next time. "yes sir denim twink god"
>>18546947shut up bald faggot.
>>18546949That’s how I talk to hundreds pound manlets. >mfw I pound your child sized bones to dust
>>18546954lolcow tier and delusional to think you could
>>18546956When will you get a job? You’re pushin 40.
>>18546958When will you get a hair transplant?
>>18546958My job is raping you daily.
>>18546967What do you bench?
>>18546968lol retard you don't even know how fighters train. most don't bench press because it develops muscles like the bicep that are useless for fighting.
>>18546968your wife
>>18546968you know most mma gyms get at least 1 roided out gym bro a month who comes in and acts like he can kick everyones ass then gets laid out by a guy my size. how do you think they get new members?go to your local gym and get humbled sometime. you can't fight. lifting weights is only like a peacock's feathers. you have no cardio and don't know how to punch, footwork, or even how to breathe without getting the wind knocked out of you yet. right now all i have to do to trip you is bait you into stepping to the left because you don't know how to yet.
>>18546927start fin first then min so you know what side effects are from which med, and I'd also recommend starting with 1.25 or 2.5mg min>>18546943nta but what the fuck are you going on abouttake that shit to >>>/soc/
>>18546968punching strength comes primarily from the legs, hips, core. you don't even know how to punch in a way that utilizes those muscle groups so to someone like me you will hit like a wet floppy noodle even if your arms (tertiary muscle group) are big and swole.
Uh oh pigslim is havin another melty!
>>18546986you sound like a clown. everyone knows i would murder you bro. anyone who even casually watches ufc knows what would happen.
>>18546989Pigslim, this is the balding thread. We’re here to talk about balding and hair. Return to one of your 6 containment threads and stop derailing the thread. We all know I’d rape you in person. You’re a hundred pound gay manlet.
>>18546990gym bro who thinks he can fight mma guys..... he's doing the meme... he's literally a walking meme.>We all know I’d rape you in person. You’re a hundred pound gay manlet.you don't know how to fight. all untrained guys are the same to me. having gym muscles and some weight advantage maybe makes you 10% harder to fight than an ordinary untrained guy but i could knock you out with one arm tied behind my back either way.
>>18547003Take your meds, schizo.
we don't care
>>18547004you would get murdered by grapplers my size. where your weight and size are actually an advantage. what do you think having gym steroid muscles even does for you?your punches will be weak because it takes most people a year to even learn how to punch with torso rotation instead of snapping their arm.ok so its a 30% stronger weak little arm snap punch? you're still hitting like a slow wet noodle. do you think lifting weights makes you harder to knock out? no your chin is the same as anyone's and i have a significant reach advantage on you because i am bigger than you.
>>18547007What do you deadlift?
>>18547008probably high 200s right now
>>18547008im not as weak as you think, i just don't train arms right now because i have no reason to rn.doesn't mean i'm not out here doing burpees when i wake up every day.
>>18547008just drop it bro. bantamweight fighter murders gym bro every day of the week, everyone knows this. if you want to be able to fight learn fighting. you'll probably be great at it since you're already big.
>>18547017Stop talking to me you gay manlet freak. I don’t care about your schizo ramblings.
>>18547019i'm a manlet but you have short little t-rex arms and i have an insane ape index so in a fight i'm the bigger man than you. its not about how tall you are its about how long you are.
>>18547019short guy with long arms is a tall guy's worst nightmare. you lose the jab game and footsies automatically and i get to throw punches at you safely from behind guard while you have to drop it and expose yourself to hit me. and also i'm one of the few guys who actually trains overhands, so i can just throw blind hits at you that hit almost as hard as a cross that you can't predict even if you were good.
>>18547024What in the hell are you talking about small son? You’re like a chihuahua. No one cares, least of all me.
>>18547029>You’re like a chihuahuakek in your delusional headcanonbut in reality you're the tiny little yapping dog i could squash like a fly
>>18547033You look and sound like a teenage girl.https://vocaroo.com/1dZY2z3gePI7
>>18547039go post your physique and ask somewhere people actually know about fighting what would happen if you got in a fight with a good kickboxer my size.
>>18547039go to your local gym and try to spar one of the short guys lol
>>18547049>>18547052Gonna cry?
BALDING GENERAL
>>18547066This is the new pigslim general. Sorry, but he escaped his containment thread.
>>18546610Then why did my hair grow back?
>>185450744 mogsRegret my buzz cut, should've just grown it out ;(
>>18547114all untrained guys are the same, so it doesn't matter what you are.
>tfw family and friends still lying to me that the hair loss "isn't that bad"Current stack:Fin 1mgMin 5mgRegularly fasting for 37.5 hours to improve HGH.Thinking of washing my hair with onion juice.
>>18547225why stop at 37.5 hours? that's when the benefits begin.>>18547114stop misdiagnosing people in the balding thread. i could snap your jeet neck in half with less force than i deathgrip my dick with when i jack off.
>>18547268There was a study that said HGH benefits peaked at 37.5 hours.
>>18547273oh cool, new to me. you're still missing out on a lot of the other benefits of fasting which start kicking in around that 48hr mark. may as well go for 3-5 days since you're already toughing out the hard part where your body hasn't suppressed ghrelin yet. but if you're worried about losing too much weight fair enough. working out on fast can help you retain muscle mass and make it a better muscle to fat ratio you lose.
>>18547225I actually tried the onion thing over a decade ago before I knew about fin. Needless to say through actually doing it I've come to the conclusion that it is an elaborate prank.
>>18547280This ain’t your blog son.
/boring namefag fight/ general
>>18547311My AI girlfriend reckons it's because of sulphur in the onion, so might be worth taking just a sulphur supplement instead. Certainly less stinky.
>>18542218>>18542223So is everything else in these threads. You're all delusional if you'd take medication just to keep your hair and you still think you're better than that guy. Either shave it if it works for your head shape or just embrace your natural hairline. If you don't like how it looks grow some facial hair like the grown man you are. No amount of medication or surgery is going to keep you looking like a teenager forever, so grow up. You'll have to sooner or later. This board? It's everything that is wrong with men today. Infantilized. Living in a delusional fantasy world where you can stay young forever. Because if not? You have nothing else. Nothing to provide of any tangible value, to yourselves, or your communities, or your Gods, if you believe in any. You persist just to get positive attention from strangers on social media. You've become like a mentally ill teenage girl with no father to protect and support her, seeking attention in all the wrong places. You live purely hedonistic lifestyles, spent avoiding all discomfort and all responsibility. Eventually it will fall apart. You will be left having built nothing on this earth but a soon to decay mental scrapyard filled with questionable choices and discarded women, and you will feel dysphoria in your aging body unlike that of any previous generation of men. Only in a place without meaningful thoughts of any kind to challenge it could such a base mentality flourish as it does here. It's hard to imagine anything more pathetic and passively destructive to himself and those around him than the modern social media addicted man."Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
>>18547364its a pill you bald freak
>>18547373I'm almost norwood 2 and I look forward to aging like an actual human being rather than turning myself into whatever sort of medically mutilated freaks you're all volunteering to be. This is all a part of the movement toward infantile transhumanism and you are on the wrong fucking side.
>>18547378balding =/= aging. it's a genetic disease.
>>18547381That's just what you have to tell yourself, Anon. It's an entirely cosmetic concern and totally unnecessary for your health. Your justifications are tantamount to the arguments for transgender "healthcare". It is because of this sort of dishonest tactic that millions of people are medically mutilating themselves in the name of "healthcare" today. You should be ashamed for your willful ignorance as much as for your vanity.
>>18547390Autistic by chance? Vanity is required for a healthy ego, you judge others and others judge you and it has and always will be that way. Luckily you get to walk around all day thinking about model trains while looking like a leper, the rest of us have other more pertinent concerns.
>>18547407>Vanity is required for a healthy ego,This. Intelligence, charisma, fitness, and beauty alike should all be enhanced when the opportunity presents itself. Neglecting any one aspect is simply a flaw of character.
>>18547407>Vanity is required for a healthy ego>Excessive pride in or admiration of one's own appearance or achievements >is required for a healthy egoI can't say I'm surprised you people would think this way.>you get to walk around all day thinking about model trains while looking like a leperRead it again.Did I say you shouldn't have basic hygiene? Look at how you have to lie and misrepresent me, just to keep up the illusion that the way you behave is sane. You have my thanks for being a perfect example and demonstrating my point exactly. This desperate attempt at doubling down despite hearing the ring of truth in my words? It's pitiful. Really, it's sad. Repent. Not for the approval of any God, and not for me, but for your own sake.>the rest of us have other more pertinent concerns.Are you already scheduled for bottom surgery, Anon?>>18547433>Intelligence, charisma, fitness, and beauty alike should all be enhanced when the opportunity presents itself.You've certainly proven to be lacking in the most important of these characteristics. You are a dupe for transhumanist psychopaths. Mad scientists looking for weak people willing to trade their humanity in for a disgusting fantasy. You are symptomatic of the profound sickness of our age. Give death his due and live with real respect for your own mortality, before you make a choice you can't take back.
>>18547476You're seething because you let your balding go so far that it can't be fixed with meds anymore. The drivel you're spewing is your way of trying to cope with it.
>>18547526>You're seething because you want to transition but you let puberty go so far that it can't be fixed with hormones anymore. The drivel you're spewing is your way of trying to cope with it.The argument isn't better cause it's made about a different cosmetic issue. I'm not saying aging never feels bad, I am saying that feeling bad about the cosmetic aspects of aging shouldn't be "fixed" through medical intervention. I need not lie about your awful ideas, as you've all done a wonderful job at demonstrating their faults for me. This alone stands as truth among myriad lies and speculation, but I will indulge you in a hypothetical for the sake of elaboration, though I have little faith you'll listen.If you offered me to go back to who and where I was ten years ago? I'd reject that. Do you know why? Because it would be suicide. Who I am today would definitionally not survive the journey backward. I would not walk through a "Star Trek" teleporter, and I would not willingly climb into a tech-bro's suicide pod if it would only promise me eternal life. If you would, "you" would die. Deadening yourself to that reality is an ugly outgrowth of deadening your feelings toward aging itself by means of whatever half-baked solutions are sold to you by multinational drug manufacturers taking advantage of your insecurity, or doctors that have abandoned the spirit of their oaths. This is what I mean when I say you've no respect for death. You'd die a million deaths to avoid truly giving the reaper his due, to suppress the feeling of living in an aging body, your mortality looming ever-present. You're a man trying and failing to escape the end, unaware that identity and mortality are intrinsically linked. You are literally trans, and you are spiritually dead. You're not better than the women dying of infections after getting back-alley BBLs. The state of you is objectively absurd and sad, as well as inherently isolating, like living with a terrible secret. Goodbye, horses.
>>18546846you probably didn't even react to minox.
>>18546842they're japanese it;s different.
>>18547373>>18547381>>18547407this guy's a paid shill who sits in here all day misdiagnosing people.>>18547433he likes replying to himself to create the illusion of organic support for his schizo nonsense.
nobody gives a shit namefag
btw pls put on an actual name so we can filter you and your friend
>>18547714stop. misdiagnosing. people. you. fucking. jeet.your "job" involves hurting people and lying about the side effects of medication, ghoulish subhuman.
>There are videos of Purdue Pharma CEOs admitting their company targeted White people with opioid and heroin, particularly those from small towns.>"We used Indian doctors to continue prescribing these pain medicines because it was easier; they had no connection to the locals".>A court ruled the Sackler family, a jewish migrant, will be protected from civil lawsuits.>The CEOs admitted to bringing Indian doctors into the US, providing them with work and permit visas and using them to prescribe the addictive drugs to white people.
I guess I'm just not Jewish enough, but if someone dies of opiate overdose it's kind of their fault unless someone physically came to their house and forcefully put it into their bodies.
>>18547777we don't carewasted quads btw
>>18547787>you should have known i was going to stab you in the back, goy.how talmudic of you.
>>18547791shut the fuck up blake.blake molinaro is a schizophrenic and one of the jannies of /fa/. blake is a half-jew mutt who works in marketing at his dad's company selling medical supplies. every single day from around 10am est to 6pm est you can find him LARPing as a doctor and shilling incorrect, harmful medical advice in the 4chan balding thread, and deleting posts discussing the side effects of finasteride.you may wonder how he has the free time to spend nearly 60 hours a week F5ing this thread AND pay his bills.well the truth is, this is his job.
>>18547794No. It's not about any of that shit. It's about personal accountability, which people used to have not too long ago.
>>18547800>we gave your child 6 refills of a highly chemically addictive and deadly drug for her toothache>and we lied about the risks and addictiveness for decades in the media to gaslight the public>but you see, the victim is to blame because they weren't a phd chemistthese are the same people that swing 100,000 chickens by their neck to death because their holy book says they can transfer their sins from the last year into it.
>>18547802You don't need to be a PhD chemist to realize you don't need painkillers if you aren't in pain.
>>185478075 Reasons Why People Blame Victims >They want to morally distance themselves from the victim. >They empathize more with the perpetrator.>They dehumanize the victim. >They possess dark triad personality traits.
most normal people hate big pharma.can you guys tell this is an inorganic shill i am talking to?
>>18547807I'm starting to believe this thread really does have paid pharma shills.
>>18547808You forgot>They recognize that people have autonomy and make their own choices.
>>18547813>As he defends the morality of a literal vampire serial killerOy vey don't you know who the real victim is, goy? Think about all the reputational damage the Sackler family took when the US justice system gave them blanket immunity from civil lawsuits!
>>18547817I don't give a fuck about these people or "big pharma." I care about people shifting the blame when they make bad decisions, and you should too.
>>18547821>defending the honor of a jewish pharma executive who killed hundreds of thousands of peoplekek we're expected to believe this is "real organic posting"fuck off, jew.
>immediately behaves exactly like a pharma shill wouldkek well that rules out anyone who was going to tell me to take my meds.did you know that around 1 in 3 jews in western countries have spied for mossad or assisted a mossad operation before?>Sayanim are unpaid Jewish civilian volunteers who provide logistical support to the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad, often without revealing their connection to the agency. These "helpers" leverage their personal and professional connections and resources in their communities worldwide to assist Mossad operations, allowing the agency to conduct its missions more effectively and on a smaller budget.>According to several former mossad agents' memoirs, around 1 in 3 jews will accept mossad's requests if called upon, and the ones who don't never report mossad's activity to the government of the country they're living in.> How Sayanim Assist Mossad: > Logistical Support:> Sayanim can provide a wide range of services, such as helping Mossad agents rent cars or apartments without proper documentation, providing information, or offering access to their businesses.> Community Connections:> Their Jewish civilian status allows them to connect with other Jewish communities globally, providing a network of support for Mossad activities.> Unpaid Volunteers:> They are not paid for their services and perform their duties out of a sense of devotion to Israel.> Key Characteristics: > Volunteer Role: They are volunteers who help Mossad out of their own initiative.> Unpaid: Their services are provided for free, without financial compensation.> Worldwide Network: Sayanim operate in various countries, forming a global support network for Mossad.> Diverse Backgrounds: They come from various professional backgrounds and may hold dual citizenships but are not necessarily Israeli citizens.read "by way of deception" by former mossad agent victor ostrovsky to learn more
>the anti-science chud starts writing paragraphs about jews in a balding prevention thread???
>>18547800You mean like when we went to war in Vietnam and the rich got richer while the poor got blown up and experimented on? Or maybe when the towers fell and the rich got richer while the poor either burned alive or got lung diseases from the fallout? Or when the banks went bust and made it so barely anyone can afford a house, and yet even still the rich got richer? Or how about every time there is an oil spill or chemical leak that ruins peoples lives in ways they won't even fully understand until generations later, and the rich STILL get richer? Please, explain to me, when was this magical time when the rich and powerful, as well as the common man, were held to such a standard?>>18547821>shifting the blame when they make bad decisionsYou mean when people realize they've been tricked and taken advantage of cause they had the wild idea that maybe someone on this earth actually wants to help them, rather than exploit them for their own gain while causing the maximum amount of damage to their person? Most victims of this kind of pharmaceutical exploitation are poor, uneducated, or demented from old age/environmental factors out of their control. They have these problems because the systems and institutions have not only failed them, but deliberately poisoned them, and you'd justify their further degradation and exploitation simply because it's convenient for you to do so. You'd sell your grandma for a nickel, you greasy little fuckworm. You empty man.
>>18547843I swear he spends months in the lab crafting these anti-fin infused attempts at philosophy only to be laughed at and shut down. We are in the tantrum phase now.
>>18547796cool
>>18547843His name is pigslim and he’s the resident lolcow of this board.
>>185477964chan gay is back, use that site
>>18547843>>18547857>>18547967>Cult members begin to ravenously speculate and box with the shadows in their desperate attempts to shut out the words of the nonbelievers.I didn't have to fearmonger about Jews once for my points to be made clear. Can you really not tell the difference in writing styles? The fact that everyone who disagrees with you is congealing into one entity in your mind should disturb you. That such a view is necessary for you to maintain coherence is telling.>only to be laughed at >We are in the tantrum phase now.We are in the manic phase, in which cult members adopt their delusional positions with extra zeal upon being plainly deconstructed. The total disassemblage of your worldview has, on some level, proven to you your error. At the same time it has only deepened your sense of persecution for a shared emotional in-group belief. "You", or perhaps only your personal demons, are more invested in their emotional commitment to an irrational position, than they are in any sense of moral truth. And so of course the whole thing becomes a bit funny. As a priest is funny to the possessed. "Why does he bother?" Why, indeed.>I swear he spends months in the labI'd be flattered if it amounted to more than barely a page worth of text. Is that a lot for you? I admit that I let morbid curiosity get the best of me coming here. While I was trying to make you see reason, that's simply not possible. I can't reason you out of an unreasonable position, and my attempts at doing so are indeed a manifestation of personal demons, however correct I might be. Indeed, I must be correct for me to feel justified in wasting my energy here. You're far from the first person I've failed to extract from a cult as a result of this misunderstanding. You can't free a willing slave. You are not fighting with me at all, nor I you. We only fight with projections, and up until now, we've both been losing. Perhaps knowledge of this fact can help us both to win.Goodbye, horses.
Regrowth or just longer hair?
>>18548376Before shave
>>18548378Most recent21m1mg dut, 5mg min, microneedling and nizoral shampoo
>>18548376Pretty sure I have scalp inflammation as well but I live in the third world country known as Canada and the referrals list is years long
>>18548376>>18548378>>18548379longer hair
Congratulations, Tyler!
>>18548376a month and a half is probably a little soon to be expecting particularly significant results. check back after about 4 months and then maybe again in another 4
>>18548380get on ketoconazole shampoo
How will American Norwoodbros cope when he bans Finasteride & Dutasteride?>B-b-but Trump is on fin! They won't ban it!Rules for thee, not for mee!Tick tock, baldcels.
>>18548717ok retard
It feels weird to be considered "bald" when you have insane amounts of hair on the sides, and just major sparseness on top. Like, obviously I understand my hairline is cooked, and I shave my head. But I'm not actually "bald", and only shave because it looks more intentional than having wispy hair on the top of my head and a fucked up hairline. But it's honestly still quite a bit of work and upkeep to shave your head regularly. Actually being bald sounds nice, because you don't have to do anything.I'm fully expecting that once I hit 45-50 I'll start growing it out again and just embrace the wisp. I'm not bald, just buzzpilled for the moment. I'm lean and youthful, so the shaved head is working out okay for me. Just looking forward to having a hairstyle again one day.
>>18548520That's what I was afraid of, at least shorter actually looks okay though, but I'll miss having longer hair>>18548695Fair, I'm just impatient as fuck, balding at 20 isn't fun and has tanked my self esteem>>18548707I've already been using nizoral twice a week, I suspect something else is going on, but I can't get anyone but my GP to look at it, fuck this shitty country
>>18548600https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ko9TpduOhE
>>18548717Are you going to bring up the EU commission or did you forget about that.
>>18548828>>18548830damn jelly of the NW1. seems legit.
>>18548835"he" was born female
>>18548836really? doesnt look liek it desu. why would he even shill spiro if he's injecting test. PFS is not real btw.
>>18548828did this guy rip off your dad or something? you've been trying to get anons to attack him for months but alas nobody cares. show up at his house already so you can get arrested and receive the help you so desperately need.
>>18548841>>18548846>doesnt look liek it desublake plstake your schizophrenia medications and stop shilling inaccurate medical advice on /fa/>PFS is not real btw.psychosexual side effects occur at incidence greater than 1% in users of finasteride, which would make them common side effects dipshit.
>why would he even shill spiro if he's injecting testdear reader: take a minute and ask yourself, would a normal anon who isn't some sort of weird shill question the notion that a transsexual would promote hormone drugs on a website using their janitor position largely associated with "chud straight white male" politics?the answer to this question is so plainly evident you have to question: who's paying these freaks to sit in the balding thread all day and shill castration drugs?i work in digital marketing and when i hire fluent english speaking indians it costs between $15-30 a day for 24 hour coverage. that's the daily wage for multiple pajeets working around the clock as a team.the cost is so low it would be like a tiny drop in the bucket for an ngo or government entity who hates right wing chuds (pic related) that wanted to derail productive conversations on the "learn how to dress better and get laid" board and instead steer them in the direction of taking sissy pink pills that make their dicks stop working.
you guys ever notice how blake changed the name of the general from hair loss general to balding general to make you self conscious and more likely to take the medications he shills?did you know that blake molinaro the transsexual /fa/ janny works in the medical industry and marketing for his dad's medical supplies company?
>>18548841>why would he even shill spiro/fa/ janitor blake molinaro's dad owns a medical supplies company that sells glue that's specifically formulated for male to female sexual reassignment surgeries. did you know that blake's dad is jewish?
>did this guy rip off your dad or something?you can tell right away this was written by a third world pajeet who comes from a country where blood feuds, honor killings etc are common. it sticks out like a sore thumb as an unusual thing for someone in a first world developed country to say. like then the jeet shills on this board post in broken english about how its "foolish to leave your wallet and phone in your back pocket" and act like there are pickpockets everywhere you go.they don't really have a concept of what life's like in a first world country so they don't even realize how much this shit they say stands out.obvious as fuck.
>>18548888That's not an answer, jew.
>>18542218If I use minoxidil before getting a hair transplant, does that risk transplanting min-dependent hairs onto my hairline?
I bought a derma pen and used it on my scalp for the first time yesterday. I could only manage 0.25mm. It still hurts a bit today.
>>18548953no they transplant DHT resistant follicles from the back of your head
>>18548888Its painfully obvious that a pajeet sits in here shilling meds but because this thread is a revolving door and people stop posting once their hair grows back we constantly have to deal with an influx of newfags who do not know what's going on.
I’ve been on spiro for a few months now and the results are nothing short of legendary. Spiro is the ultimate anabolic tonic that sends test levels skyrocketing. I have >thicker, fuller hair: my temples which had been thinning are filling back in rapidly>facial hair renaissance: patchy beards are a thing of the past. Spiro turbo-charges follicle activity The science is settled: spiro cranks up test production and unleashes it directly at the follicular level. Dermatologists call it “anabolic follicular supercharging.”If you’re ready to stop playing with bullshit like minoxidil and want to grow a mane worthy of a Norse god, you need to buy spiro. Just don’t forget to get a bigger comb.
>>18549098What is this blatant advertising bullshit kek how trustworthy and legitimate.
am I NW1.5 yet?
>>18549098quit trying to use my pics to shill spiro you dumb fuck pajeet.i regrew my hair WITHOUT MEDICATION because i have TELOGEN EFFLUVIUM and SEBORRHEIC DERMATITIS.you need to stop LARPing as a doctor and giving out bad medical advice pajeet boy. you tried to shill FINASTERIDE when i posted about having TE and SEB DERM. and i have seen you misdiagnose many anons over the last two years in this thread.you are a dangerous schizo, and people who intentionally give harmful medical advice like you deserve a bullet in their heads. if some schizo hunted you down and killed you i would visit your grave to piss on it, subhuman shit-skinned indian.
>>18549168The hell are you on about, son?
>>18549185>i'll prove i'm not an indian shill by....>struggling with reading comprehension and simple english!
>>18549188Gonna cry, pigslim?
give it to me straight guys, "baby hairs" appearing on the hairline when ive never had them before is sure fire recession right?
>>18549204maybe so, maybe not. could just be traction alopecia or temporary hair loss from stress. just keep an eye on it but i wouldn't over react yet. it could be an early sign of balding or it could just be a normal anagen cycle. you can get a mesh screen for your shower and count the rate your hair's shedding if you are really worried about it. diagnosing hair loss this way has a 99 point something rate of accuracy. might be useful since it can take a while to get an appointment with a dermatologist.
>>18549204If you're worried about it, go see a dermatologist.
>>18548993Does that mean I shouldn't apply min to the back of my head, or does it not matter?
>>18549189>The poojeet disinfo agent was Bully Maguire all alongYou'll get you your rent when you fix this damn HAIRLINE!
>>18549204Let me get my dowsing rod
>>18549224you don't need to and shouldn't apply it in any of the dht resistant zones of your head. if you are missing hair in any of those areas you need to see a dermatologist and get diagnosed because if you have any hair loss in dht resistant areas it means you have a completely different type of alopecia that fin/dut don't do anything for, and you're taking the wrong meds. minoxidil does work for some of those and not for others. if you have hair loss where you shouldn't then you need a diagnosis and then you should take a holistic approach to treating it.and if you do have hair loss that looks like it isn't male pattern baldness -- its common in men who have any other form of alopecia outside of male pattern baldness, to also have male pattern baldness at the same time. just because it looks like you have one doesn't mean you have both.i had a scary amount of hair fall out but because it fell out around my ear i knew i didn't have male pattern baldness and with a quick diagnosis i was able to get all my hair back without taking fin/dut just minoxidil vitamins (especially d/k2mk7) and better hygeine/sleep/lower stress/etc. i know one guy and two women irl who had diffuse thinning that i urged to get nutrition/mineral panels done and all 3 wound up being low or high iron. and almost everyone with hair loss is vit d deficient. even if you have male pattern baldness if you're not getting blood panels done and making sure you have no nutritional deficiencies/surpluses you're potentially leaving a lot of hair regrowth gains on the plate. IMO the best non-surgical results in hair regrowth consistently are seen in men who take a holistic approach and don't wait too long (1-2yrs usually fine)
>>18549163Around there yeah
>>18549277This ain’t your blog son. Reduce yappin.
>>18549098Wow! I’m buying spiro now. Thanks!
>>18547225How often do you fast?
>>18548379Back again, showered in the morning with nizoral yet my scalp still looks inflamed as fuckDoes anyone have any advice? I'm desperately trying to see a dermatologist but it's been pretty tough
bros i shaved my head and it's thinning BAD on top, i was going to post a pic but i think i deleted it out of shame. Hair has grown out now and I have naturally thick hair so it's mostly covered up now, do I just grow it out to my ass and pray for for the best? My hairline is fucked but i'm not above shaving it bald when it gets bad bad
Did it happen all at once for you guys? I started irregularly diffuse thinning at like 33/34.
>>18550243I lost my temples a long time ago but then I got the DHT itch then hairline thinning right around 31 and after 6 months I had miniaturized hairs coming out with greasy seb derm dandruff flakes and yellow crystals that would bleed if I picked at them, my scalp was weeping fluid any time I picked at it and this fluid would dry and turn into yellow dried crystals it was gross, I probably put off seeking out a fin prescription for 6 months because of the fearmongering.
>>18550217No you get on fin+min.>>18550243Yep diffuse thinning has a rapid onset that's why recovery is so much more likely.
>>18549230ESL moment. Take your spiro Ranjesh.
>>18550457Don't blame fearmongering for your own self neglect. 90% of people with some gross ass shit like you described would at least go to a dermatologist.
>>18549163yus, that looks exactly like mine, I was probably a bit worse off but oral min and fin grew it back just enough to pull that 1.5 look. You can style it properly and you won't give a shit. do not, by god, let it go further than that.
>>18550457If it’s yellow and like crystallized goo, that’s a fungal infection, not bacterial. Get T-Gel from Walgreens immediately because they still sell the original coal tar version.>>18550510>RecoveryHow? So far I’ve just been using minoxidil but that’s like a glorified mousse or an anchor to prevent it from getting worse. Mind you, my thinning isn’t even. It’s on the top, yes, but the left side where I part my hair is worse like a fading stripe. Mind you, it’s not because of hair parting. Still noticeable if I slick it all back evenly. Kinda like a cat where it’s thinning in front of their ears but more noticeable on the left side. What do you suggest? I still have hair, but I have to mask it with minox and a blow dryer every time I leave the house.
>>18550931>How?Minodoxil makes your blood vessels less constricted so your hair is a little better but does not fix the root cause. Male pattern baldness is caused by DHT, the hormone. It builds up in your scalp and kills the pores. NOTHING that doesn't block this from happening will stop male pattern baldness. End of. If you get a transplant, guess what? All the hairs you didn't replace yet will still be getting fried, so they're gonna say the same thing; take something to prevent DHT buildup. And that thing is finasteride. It blocks the hormone and your hair regrows if it isn't completely gone. I have been using it for 3/4ths of a year now and I'm much better. It's real. The balder you are the less you get back though>what about the sidesRisk you gotta take. Maybe you get them, maybe you don't. Most people don't. But you lose nothing from testing it for a week or two.
Can fin help or is turkey my only option atp
>>18551460imho they can help but it'll be a bitch to style that forehead without dumb combovers that will leave you exposed on a windy day.I'd start min and fin right away, wait for a year or two and if not happy with the results, go for the turkey route.
Hello, fellow /balding/'s.Earlier today I got a trichoscopy and I notice a few oddities.>little to no vellus hair count>medium-low hair per cm2>normal follicular units per cm2How can this all be? How can I have a normal amount of follicles (80-100 is considered normal according to google), but have such a reduced hair count? And why are there so little vellus hairs?I have a theory, I started dut and min around 3 months ago, so I could be in a shedding state that kicked out all the vellus hairs, but shouldn't the follicles still be visible?Quite confused.
Is it time to go get rid of it?
>>18551692If you're not going to treat it then yeah.
>>18551562Vellus hairs are not commonly found on the scalp.Shed or they have gone terminal
>pale, gangly balding guy>Want to go full Feyd-Rautha or Prometheus Engineers mode>Know id just look like a chemo patientGuess I'll keep wearing hats...
>>18551692Yes, but not in the quitting sense. You need to shave it or keep to short to treat it. I also see you have a topical infection of sorts or psoriasis. Shave it, clean it, treat it, massage that. Even if it’s not by much, it will at least regrow a little nicer.Sometimes maintaining a lawn means cutting it all down and starting fresh.
>>18551706>not goonmaxingbe better
People on oral minoxidil Do the docs check your vitals first? Do they require you to have check ups?If so, what should I be monitoringConsidering just drinking topical
>>18551754Don’t drink topical. This is not recommended. I tried it like a big fucking retard and I was sick for two days. Even the taste and smell was sickening.
>>18551760Just mix it into sugar and turn it into sugarcubes. Saw a redditor do it and I think he had pretty good results.
>>18551788>Just clog your pores, bro.
>>18550848I used to be a textbook NW2 half a year ago, I'm on min 5% + dut 0.5mg
Where is this on the norwood scale? I genuinely don't know what to think of this guy's hair.
>>18552127Advanced Norwood 4 or 5
I’ll just wear a buzz cut, stay in shape, and keep my penis, thanks
>>18552358you need a 6 figure income to offset your hairline debuff
I shave it down to a number 1. Women are attracted to my T levels.
>>18552426Yep. Or be ch*rming/have a p*rsonality (in addition to being fit).
>>18552426the guy who pushes that narrative in this thread is an incel. just thought you might want to know.
>>18542396that link is 200% bullshit all you're doing is pitching down or up your music, changing a light bulb doesn't hurt I guess
>>18544321Not bad at all. How's the crown looking though?
>>185450743>2>1>4
What should be my next step if I've been taking finasteride and dutasteride daily for 2 years and my hair is still slowly thinning at the front-middle?
>>18553479oral min
>>18551692Why not attempt medical treatment?
>>185534812.5mg sound good?
>>18553490Work your way up to 5 ideally
>>18542218Erm... Should I hop on Fin? I haven't been eating nor sleeping well and have been a depressed layabout for quite some time now.
>>18553755start eating sleeping and undepressing and check again in a few months
is this bad?
>>185534907.5https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11342986/
Just got back from the dermatologist. I've been on fin since march, topical, applied every single night without missing one day. They were so amazed by my regrowth that my pics are going on the before and after page of their wiki. I have not done the medical release paperwork shit to post it but this is an approximation of my situation, hand on my heart, not lying.Not mine just something I found on the internet, but pic is about where I'm at in terms of density, but the hairs on my crown are much shorter as this is a 2 years progression pic.
How fucked am I? 29yo, just started treatment of oral 5mg min + 0.5mg dut yesterday lol
>>18554061Depends: Are you Catholic?
Is it true that a hair transplant is permanent for the most part because the hair from the donor area (back your head) is less susceptible to miniaturization?
>>18554135Yes, the issue is you'll still need to take finasteride after. If you get a transplant at, say, norwood 2, your hair is still gonna keep receding and you'll look like this guy.
>>18554116diffuse thinning like that is the kind most treatable by what you're taking. It might take a year or so but you should be fine so long as you are diligent about it.
>>18554135yeah those hairs are resistant but there's not enough of them to cover the whole scalp at decent density. you still meds there's no escaping them.
>>18553479you are just imagining. i was balding since age 15 or something, then started dut at age 25, it knocked hair loss completly, its impossible to go bald on dut, unless you have some other issues.
>>18542218this thing is a miraclenearly a year of 2.5mg per day and my hair fall is completely goneused to shed hair just by swiping my hand through it, now i feel confident in drying my hair with a towel like i used to
I just like shaving my head
>>18554148>>18554575That's good to know then because I'm at a NW2 and been using a super low dose topical fin for the past year and I haven't grown anything but I haven't lost ground either. I just want to fill out my hairline and temples as I have no other recession going on
>>18555716I tried gradually lowering my topical fin dose years back and after a few months, my gains started disappearing.I think that either low doses of finasteride aren't as effected as the studies would have you believe, or applying topical finasteride naturally leads to microdosing in individuals who don't shave their head because a good portion of the topical solution doesn't reach the scalp even if you're careful with it.
>Dutasteride 2.5mg/day>VDPHL01 8.5mg x2/day>PP405 Gonna be the ultimate stack in 2030. The future is almost here.
>>18555830no one is going to bother with 2.5 dut.
>>18555830wtf is VDPHL01also PP405 is probably going to be widely available only in 2035 and that's if everything goes well. this shit is making be question a HT though, because it seems that it's better at bringing back the dormant follicles, so that + fin or dut is going to be pretty close to proper treatment
>super low dose topical fin
>>18555847>VDPHL01extended release oral minoxidiljust came out with their phase 2 study proving more effective than standard oral min or topical min while being outright safer than immediate release oral minyou can go up to 100mg+ a day in order to ensure everyone even those with low sulta enzyme activity have it work for themtldr: a company is 1-2 years away from release a perfect version of minoxidil that works for 100% of people
>>18555831where are people getting 2.5mg dut capsules anyway?
>>18556156they aren't unless they're buying raw powder and mixing it in a solution but I doubt retards on here know how to do that.
should I switch to oral min from topical? seems like it's easier and just an overall better deal
>>18556137searched for it and it seems way more promising than the other newer stuff, especially since it's just another form of min which is something that is already proven to work
Is there some sort of hair health general guide I can follow? I'm not balding but my hair is pretty unhealthy and I would like it longer
>>18556468bump
