511s are the best fitting jeans. you can buy yourself a pair for 30 bucks.
>>18543748I used to wear 511s but as I am becoming a man of advanced years I have recently changed over to 514, and I think they suit me quite well these days. Adult, masculine, not flashy but still showcases my chunky junk reasonably well. I likem.
i wear khakis
550s since 511s are twink cut at this point and levi's ruined base 501sotherwise their new 578 is maybe goated, very zoomzoom-approved cut i dont ever see mentioned
>>18543748Only if you have legs that skinny, because on him they look like regular straight leg jeans. If you have fat fucking bitch thighs, wear looser pants and hide your shame. Nobody wants to look at feminine legs on a man.
>>18543891depends on dem thize anon
>>18543748If my legs were that small I would literally kill myself
>>18543925Because you're roid brained. Most people these days are obsessed with "thicc" thighs because of gymcel culture (for men) and negro culture (for women).
>you can buy yourself a pair for 30 bucks.Yeah and the crotch blows out after 3 washesI've literally saved money by buying $175 jeans from a trendy meme brand, the west has truly fallen
>>18543748I will never buy a product that advertises DEI bullcrap. I am not the target demographic. And that fit is shit.
>>18543933>crotch blowoutsThen stop being fat and wearing tight pants, you pigs. 511s aren't even supposed to fit like skinny jeans. If you're getting crotch blowouts with them, then you're either sizing down, or you're too fat for them.
>>18543943That doesn't even make sense, why would being fat make the crotch blow out? Fat people don't have the flexibility to cause stress on the crotch. It would all be on the waist.
>>18543944Crotch blowouts are caused from friction between thighs. Fatties don't have enough gap between their legs so they always rub their thighs while walking and sitting. Blowouts are also caused from sagging your pants like a nigger. Saggy pants cause the bunched up fabric to rub against itself all the time when you walk, sit, or move any time. and also from getting stretched out unnaturally because the crotch of your pants is sitting closer to the middle of your thighs than your actual crotch. So pull your fucking pants up you pants sagging niggers.
>>18543949Look at those retarded faggots on the left and right. They're sagging their pants down to their crotch and then cuffing because now the legs are bunching up at the bottom. Just pull your pants up you morons.
>>18543949Well, I do ride a bike in jeans, so that's probably not too far off the mark, but I think you need to stop letting fat people and blacks live rent free in your head.At any rate, my $175 jeans solved the blowout problem so "just stop moving around so much like a fat black" isn't the defense you seem to think it was.
>>18543748Why are threads on here everyday encouraging us to buy garbage made in India and Bangladesh?No thanks. I'll stick to my $200 denim made by Japanese samurai.
>>18543956You must be fat. If you don't buy flimsy garbage that lasts a month before you have to buy a new pair, you're black.
>>18543962>You must be fat. If you don't buy flimsy garbage that lasts a monthYes you are. I never even knew what the fuck crotch blowouts were until I got into fashion. None of my pants ever blew out in my entire life, whether they're jeans chinos, or trousers, no matter how thin the fabric was. And Japanese autism jeans also blow out in the crotch. So yes, it's you. Stop being a fatfuck and wearing your pants wrong.
>>18543931You are saying this when the OP of the post is literally black
>>18543966I've had my meme jeans for over 2 years now and at least 200 miles of city riding with no issues whatsoever. I genuinely don't understand the angle here, is Levi's paying you for this or are you this butthurt that your $30 jeans made of fourth-rate cotton are demonstrably inferior to $175 meme jeans?
>>18543966showing a bit of chicken skin is effay
>>18543970The point is, people these days wear pants that are too tight for them, and wear them wrong by sagging them down to their crotch like a bunch of homosexual niggers. Which is why blowouts are higher now. Pants sagging wasn't all that common before the mid 2000s. So they didn't have as much blowouts since they wore their pants at their proper hips and waist, and most people weren't fat fucks.
>>18543748Diesel New Saddle Jeans is all you need
>>18543976I'm trying to follow but you're really not doing a very good job here. Let's try to make it simple:Pair #1: Falls apart instantly. $30.Pair #2: Lasts for years. $175.Same wearer. Same lifestyle. Same body. The explanation, I take it, is still "niggers and faggots"? Final answer?
Reject slim fit, embrace straight fit and loose fit
>>18543985Slim is fine if you're actually slim, like the twink in OP. Everyone else should wear straight and relaxed fit, because they'll get the same result/silhouette as slim fit on a slim guy.
>>18543992Eeew
>>18544007>gay ass obviously fake fadesEarn your fades, you posers. Always buy dark wash and fade them yourself.
>>18544010Yes
fwiw switching to a slightly taller rise fixed crotch blow outs for me even on cheaper pants. even with a belt on i think lower rises can just slip down more easily, an even a centimeter of slippage while walking was enough to increase tension on the crotch of my pants
>>18544080Yep. Crotch blowouts are entirely a pants sagging issue. With saggy pants there's too much tension in the crotch area if you spread your legs even a little bit. And if you're fat, then the sagging crotch of your pants is rubbing against your thighs all the time, causing additional wear and tear. Wear mid or high rise pants and pull your pants up (on your fupa and not below it, if you have a protruding gut). Wear them at your hips or proper waist. And whenever you're going to spread your legs, squat, or sit down, pull the legs of your pants up a little (like in picrel), so that the crotch of your pants is in your actual crotch and the legs of the pants aren't getting pulled apart at the crotch seams.Watch the way this guy pulls his pants up before squatting.https://youtu.be/JANvVVsyZJE?t=88People these days sag their pants down to their crotch (and always wear them below their fupa) and squat/sit down just like that while their pants are still sagging, thinking that the spandex in their pants should compensate for the tension by stretching. Like this guy:https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CsPAsICeRsM?feature=shareThat's why faggots want stretch in their pants in the first place. People have gotten so retarded that they don't even know how to wear pants properly anymore.
Is Levi's paying astroturfers to do damage control on 4chan?
>>18544110Do you have a playlist of men with borderline speech impediments squatting in business casual clothing
The 1955 pattern 501 is peak and looks good on literally anyone
levis makes me feel like a fatass having to buy size 34 instead of being size 32 in every other fast fashion brand jeans
I like the levi's 514 only because it corresponds to my hometown area code
>>18544120I don't give a shit about Levi's. I'm speaking facts. Men these days are pants on heads retarded and wear their pants like faggot niggers. Your jeans' crotch is meant to sit at your actual crotch, especially if it's a tighter fit. Doesn't matter if you're wearing low, mid or high rise; not sagging at your thighs. If it sits at your thighs, then you're putting too much tension on the crotch seams and friction from your legs rubbing together.>>18544124Unfortunately no.
>>18544136You're not speaking facts though. If the facts were as you say, then high quality Japanese denim would have the same problem as $30 Levi's. You can type nigger faggot nigger all day but it still won't make Levi's good.How much do you get paid for this?
>>18544144Except, your autism jeans have the same problems. Just because yours haven't blown out yet, doesn't mean others haven't.
>>18544156BTW, that's Lee 101z made with 19oz Kaihara denim. They cost 300 USD.
>>18544156Let's say you're about to drive 20 miles at night in the rain. You have to drink either a pint of PBR or a pint of Tito's first. They both can get you killed, so clearly, they're the same thing, right?
>>18543748man this is an embarrassing memory, in my early 20s i was really fat like 40 waist fat and i went to the levis store and asked the employee if they had the skinny levis jeans in sizes over 38 waist and he gave me this dirty look like "get out of my store you peasant" i never felt more like a piece of a shit than in that moment. probably should have just killed myself in the change room to spite him
>>18544010dumbass
>>18544181>t. wears gay ass perfectly horizontal whiskers sanded by a Pakistanihttps://youtu.be/nQMhv5XAdOc?t=482
>>18543748Way too tight in the thigh and crotch area. That combined with a looser leg makes you look like a gay cowboy.
>>18544193Jeans are cowboy pants, sweatie.
What are jeans that dont have a sagging dropped gusset, that fit liek slim fit in the thighs and then at the bottom are like a less pronounced boot cut.
>>18544197Wrangler cowboy cut slim fit.
>>18544144So their light wash athletic fit jeans aren't good?
>>18543748Maybe so, but I don't buy or wear Levi's out of principle.
>>18544550which principle?
>>18543966>jeet & famous nice try
>>18543748Too tight. Too uncomfortable. You look ghey twink. Not for me. 505 fits like old 501, which is what I like.
>>18544195Bootcut looks gay.
>>18545170no you
>>18543992this. im always told itts that i should try straight jeans but they dont get i look like a fucking clown in those. 511 for me are literally 501s one size down. they arent skinny at all so it dawned on me these fucks are fat and wearing the wrong fucking fit.
>>18545181The 510 are the skinny ball-crushers. 511s are slim but without the retarded aggressive taper of the 512. Great cut if you're lean with thin legs, otherwise, avoid.
>>18544156skill issue. my jeans are going strong after 19 years. get a wider fit.>>18545181slim fits look fine if you are actually slim. anyone saying "you must wear this fit" is clueless to begin with because different fits look completely different depending on the physique and proportions of the guy wearing them.
>>18545281That's what I've been saying. Stop wearing tight jeans and sagging them. It puts too much tension and friction in the seams near the crotch area every time you walk or spread your legs. Even thicker denim will get ripped apart eventually with that kind of constant abuse.
>>18543748(((Levis)))
>>18545293(((Wrangler)))
>>18544489No actually Levi's are wonderful and the only reason anyone would have a problem with jeans that cost $30 in 2025 is that they're fat, black, and gay. I mean that is a totally reasonable price for premium quality denim, and you should expect a high quality product, which it is.
>>18545281No one cares pigslim. Shut your mouth before I rape your dysgenic faggot ass again.
>>18545298Jeans are supposed to be cheap ass clothes. So 30 dollars is the right price, especially in this day and age of projectile looms and high speed sewing machines. Your 300 dollar jeans aren't going to be better just because you're paying more. After a point, there's diminishing returns. With most selvedge autism jeans, you're not paying 100s of dollars for the quality but more for the "artisanal" antique process, the almost "luxury" experience, and the brand name. They're also produced in much smaller quantities and with first world wages (mostly in Japan), so that adds to the cost.Are Levi's jeans shittier quality now than in the 90s or even 2000s? Absolutely. But are they so bad that they should fall apart within a few months? No. If that were the case they wouldn't continue to sell so much. The fabric is still thick enough. Most people these days are just fucking retards who don't know how to wear pants anymore. Most of them are disgustingly fat, so they often size down to make the pants look more "slimming" (and wear them below their fupa), they sag their pants because they're negrified golems who were programmed to think that saggy pants are cooler and the default way to wear pants, so that contributes to more wear and tear on the pants near the crotch than normally should.
>>18545298The jeans I mentioned are almost 100 USD.
So are Levi's. Their regular stuff retails at 60-70 dollars. You can get them for 30-40 during sales. The selvedge stuff is over 100 dollars.
>>18544197Levis 517/527 or Lee Extreme Motion Slim Bootcut
Im a thrifter so it's all cheapo brands like Levis, but Levis are worse than most of the other stuff I find. Even mall brands like Kenneth Cole seem nicer. To this day my favorite jeans were Calvin Klein, possibly vintage. Polo jeans have also been good finds. These arent uge differences since this is all mass produced etc. but I wouldn't buy new Levis in 2025.
>>18543748If you don't fit perfectly into Levis 541s in size 32x34 (or smaller waist) you are a fat manlet with chicken legs
>>18544200Bought a pair of these a few years ago and they have been my favorites ever since. The raw indigo and black versions get some beautiful fades over time too.
>>18545309>uhhhhhh actually you're doing it wrong, you need to wear your pants correctly!!!!!Funny how high quality jeans don't require this narrative.And again that's weeks to failure, not months.Now resume your schizo word salad about how scared of black people you are. And the gays.
>>18543966>>18544156>picwhy does this keep happening and how to counter it
>>18546109Stress to the crotch. For me the biggest source is pic related. Inevitable unless you want to dismount which is a PITA if it's just going to be 20 seconds before the green. You can treat your jeans like a precious delicate fashion piece, like the other anon suggested, or you can just pay attention to what you're buying.It will happen to any jeans eventually, some kind of stress point failure either around the ass, which is constantly rubbing on things, or the crotch, which gets pulled like that. I had a pair of premium brand 14.5oz raws that made it about 10 years of abuse before they gave up, that just tells you what a difference quality makes. A pair of uniqlo raws made it 3-4 years. I don't know the weight, but I imagine being raw helps since the fabric isn't pre-damaged at the factory. But probably, being made of fabric that isn't the cheapest trash humanly possible also helps.Levi's, which I bought because "it's been forever since I had just basic boring jeans", were the first time I experienced insta-blowout and from what I've read on the internet, the brand is basically a shadow of its former self. Pure garbage produced to meet the lowest possible price requirements. I emailed them and they offered a refund or a replacement but I was like if this is just going to happen again it's not even worth the subway ride to the Levi's store. So I tossed them in the garbage and that was that.
>>18545309> Your 300 dollar jeans aren't going to be better just because you're paying more. After a point, there's diminishing returns. With most selvedge autism jeanslevi's retail for $80 a pair and are trash.i'd rather pay $150 and get something handmade with better quality cotton.>you're not paying 100s of dollars for the quality but more for the "artisanal" antique process, the almost "luxury" experience, and the brand nameyou're paying for both. and better tailoring. short staple cotton isn't as strong as long staple cotton and i promise you the stuff you're getting is the cutting floor scraps. sure you're "overpaying" a bit for the fact they're made in a first world country but to act like cheap jeans are in any way comparable is ignorant. >>18545298if your problem is with sagging why do you shill for levi's jeans? almost all their fits have a built in gangster sag in them.>>18545293white guy invented the riveted overall and launched levi's into popularity. the jew just paid for the patent. >>18545292how the jeans fit in the hips matters a lot too.
>Skinny jeans are so out of fashion now that they’re going to be dirt cheap.Screenshot this.
>>18546154You can keep on making up stories about sagging and calling me fat, black, and gay, but it's not going to make your made in Bangladesh out of fibers that were too shitty for H&M and Uniqlo jeans any better. Again, your jeans are garbage. Not even worth the cost of a subway ride to exchange for a new pair.
>>18546109Don't sag your jeans. Sagging puts too much stress on the crotch seams when you walk or spread your legs. Wear them at your waist as they're meant to. The crotch of your jeans should be snug with your crotch, doesn't matter if they're low, mid or high rise. Get your jeans in your proper waist size and pull them up.Also, wash your jeans regularly. If you don't wash them often, all the dirt and grim collecting in the fabric will deteriorate the threads a lot faster.
>>18546297You realize this example looks awful, right?
>>18546301That is where your waist is, despite what the homosexual nigger fashion you're into wants you to believe. The point of that image is to show that even high rise jeans should be worn at the waist, with the crotch of the jeans snug with your crotch, unlike what moronic zoomers do these days by getting baggy high rise jeans and sagging them at their crotch. Most jeans these days are mid rise, so they should be worn like picrel. Once again, with no sag.
>>18546315Kill yourself stupid retard. I won't elaborate.
>>18546210you quoted the wrong nigger. i'm agreeing with you.
>>18545295Many such cases
>>18546154This ain’t your blog pigslim. When will you get a job?
>>18543891>closet case
>>18543943>>18543949>>18543966>>18543976Let's take a look inside this Anons head!>FATS AND BLACKS AND FATS AND BLACKSI'm sure that can't be all that's in here...let's look again?>NIGGERS AND FATTIES AND NIGGERS AND FATTIES*slams door* Never mind!
>>18543933This. Im either buying $10 George jeans or supreme. Idgaf
>>18543980Diesel is for gay leather daddys
>>18543891>>18543892>>18543925so is bigger thighs better? i'm skinny but most of my fat over the years has gone to my thighs, i find it gross and am thinking of fasting to get rid of it
>>18544195These are the ideal jean. Not the faggy shit that hugs your legs.
>>18546180more like not made/unavailable
Buy a relaxed straight cut, preferably something replicated from a 1940s-50s 501. People have this weird obsession with trying to do everything completely opposite of what Gen Z does, but they don’t understand that you can manage to wear a relaxed pair of jeans that aren’t absurdly baggy and that actually look natural. Gen Z’s issue is that they gravitated toward the ultra baggy cuts which made them look like literal clowns. The benefits of opting for a relaxed straight cut are that you not only have a good looking silhouette that isn’t skinny and gay, but the jeans are also infinitely more comfortable, less restrictive, and as a result allows them to function with unhindered mobility. OP’s pic look fucking retarded and is essentially an example of what some clueless Indian immigrant or negroid would think is stylish. Skinny/slim jeans look hyperfeminine and are absolute shit.
>>18547529Rapidly aging millennials, thirdies and everyone with a skin tone under tge red line in that Peter Griffin meme still wear slim/skinnies and always will. My local mall is still full of slim and skinny cuts.
>>18547462muscle is better. if you're tubby it's always healthier and at least usually more attractive to lose it. do legs days anon, you'll lose the tub and gain some tone
>>18543748Anon the 501's barely fit over my calves, the 511's only work if you have the phenotype of a twig
>>18543748541s because i dont have chicken legs. And i havent even worn those in years. Been wearing GBRS set point jeans for 2 years now with no signs of wear, damage, tears etc.
>>18547462If most of your fat is going to your thighs then you have too much estrogen. Start exercising. You want big thighs from big muscles, not fat deposits.
>>18547596Even most zoomers still wear slim, skinny and slim tapered jeans. The ones obsessed with baggy potato sacks are the vocal minority. We live in a gay world. Most malls even near me still have gay slim/skinny pants, so now I get all my clothes off the internet. The online stuff is also much cheaper and better quality compared to mall slop.
>>18547537The only good fit itt. This board is doomed.
>>18547628NTA but aging millennials call them baggy zoomer pants. It always makes me wonder what went wrong with millennials. Didn't they grow up wearing straight and relaxed fit jeans throughout their childhood and teenage until the late 2000s? So how did they suddenly turn into skinny jeans wearing fags who continue to cling onto those gay pants to this day?
>>18547386Again, explain why $200+ autism jeans with "highest quality" thick and heavy fabric crafted by Japanese artisan Samurai monks also get crotch blowouts if cheap, thin fabric of Levi's was the only problem. And why my cheap mall jeans never blew out in my entire life even when I used to ride bicycles a lot when I was a kid.
>>18547462It's the best place for fat to go, but muscle is generally better than fat
>>18547638>Didn't they grow up wearing straight and relaxed fit jeans throughout their childhood and teenage until the late 2000swe were still for the pants to be fit and structured. you are making a common mistake by projecting the sloppy trends of skaters and niggers onto the mainstream adult population. the 90s were the peak of heroin chic too.
>>18547661>straight and relaxed fit are sloppyThis is what I'm talking about. Equating normal ass straight and relaxed fit jeans with baggy jeans. Slim/skinny jeans have really mindbroken you people.
>>18547674i never said that. i mean jeans like jncos were worn only by unfashionable young people and minorities even then. adults always wanted their pants to fit nice in the thighs and ass. thats why skinny jeans weren't really that much of a departure, they just slimmed down the bootcuts from the knee down.
>>18547650Nobody said high quality jeans never fail. As I mentioned before, I had a pair of jeans that eventually got a crotch blowout after 10 years of abuse. Now scream about fats gays and blacks again, since it's your only argument. >Fats blacks and gays, fats blacks and gays, reeeeeeee
>>18547386he's right, crotch blowouts are usually caused by fit and a lot of denim bro brands that cater to millenials have fits that encourage blowouts. he just said it in the most autistic way possible, but he is right.>>18547537>Skinny/slim jeans look hyperfeminine and are absolute shit.they can look alright with just a tee shirt but the second you throw a jacket on slim fits and skinny fits make most men look top heavy and goofy.>>18547677>i never said that. i mean jeans like jncos were worn only by unfashionable young people and minorities even then. adults always wanted their pants to fit nice in the thighs and ass.hollywood celebs started pushing slouchy waisted oversized jeans in the late 90s. they weren't jnco wide, more like buying a relaxed fit pair of jeans a couple sizes too big in the waist.
>>18547691Your lone example means nothing. I wore cheap mall jeans throughout my childhood and teenage (and I was a pretty active kid) and none of their crotches blew out. You see more crotch blowouts these days because most men now wear gay little slim fitting jeans (often sized down) and sag them like niggers. Which puts a lot more stress on the crotch. Hence, blowouts, regardless of the quality of the fabric. And that's a fact no matter how many times you type "fat blacks gays fat black gays" So stop being retarded fatfuck niggers and wear your pants properly in looser fits, in your correct waist size and pull them up, as they are intended to be worn, and your jeans will last longer, whether they're cheap mall jeans or 500 dollar autism jeans.Stop doing what the moron in this pic is doing. Look at the way he is pulling the crotch apart by spreading his legs while sagging his jeans like a nigger. Pull your pants up when spreading your legs or sitting down, and your jeans will last longer. Stupid fucking grown men these days need to be taught even how to wear their pants.
>>18547725>I wore cheap mall jeans throughout my childhood and teenageguessing you're a millenial? cheap mall jeans were still pretty good back then, and levi's hadn't totally gone to complete shit yet. a lot of the upscale mall brands would make their jeans out of imported japanese denim with long staple cotton, they just didn't really advertise it. >blowouts, regardless of the quality of the fabric.the quality of fabric does noticeably change the way the denim 'breaks down' over time.but the fit is the most important thing like you are saying. if your fit is bad then the best fabric in the world will just wear right through.>Stupid fucking grown men these days need to be taught even how to wear their pants.i spent an hour on zoomer fashion tiktok the other day and didn't see one male wearing his pants correctly.
>>18547725>REEEE BLACKS GAYS AND FATS BLACKS GAYS AND FATSIt's funny how you still can't account for a simple apples to apples comparisonGood jeans: lasts 10 yearsLevi's: lasts 3 washesSame fat black homosexual wearing them. Same fit. So what changed? Did putting on Levi's turn me fat black and gay and wiped my memory of being slim white and hetero?
how long have you retards been arguing over whether cheap walmart denim is as good as premium japanese denim, why the hell do I come to this hell site someone please put me out of my misery
>>18547750its been an ongoing, frequent point of discussion for 3-4 years.
>>18543892Unbelievable. Imagine being so fruity you set up a camera at work to showcase your own male ass online fucking kek
>>18547739>>18547743I just want to say for the record, that I'm a fat fuck(not black though, sorry) and I've never had a pair of jeans fail on me before. I have no clue how people half my size are destroying something as sturdy as a pair of jeans. The only thing I can think of is that you are overconfident in your movements because your slim enough, so you must move in them the same way you would in something looser fitting and stretchy? Are you falling of your skateboard 20 times a day, or doing fucking gymnastics in them? kek. I like to wear different shades, so could be that I just have enough pairs that I'm not wearing the same one every day until it gives. That's on you for buying a single 400$+ pair of epic nippon denim, as if tight fitting everyday clothes are something you should buy to last. A mistake only a SKINNY could make.