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If you post a Citizen or a Seiko in this thread, your mom will be raped by a pack of black gentlemen tonight.

The place to actually discuss watches, free of avatarfagging drama, including bittercelposting, pics of food or drinks, or long-ass stories about your lives.

>Your budget
>Preferred brand or manufacture
>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot, etc
>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz, etc
>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, chronograph, etc
>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet, etc
>Wrist size or desired watch size

Previous thread: >>18539258
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kofe time
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>>18544861
>Polaris Chronograph
Makes more sense than the dive watch variants that didn’t have screw down crowns and only 100m WR.
12mm thick is pretty good for an automatic chronograph too.
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>>18544867
what watch is in the reflection?
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>>18544861
Sorry for posting Citizen, but... If you remember the retard with the old Citizen Eco-Drive watch whose hour hand had got stuck on 6 or 12, it was me. Someone here said it just need to be cleaned. They were right – thank you!

I bought "13pcs Watchmakers Tools" from Ali and used it to open the watch. Didn't care if I destroy it. I loosened the screws on the middle plate and put a drop of isopropyl alcohol on a cotton swab and cleaned the holes (pic almost related) that are holding the gear wheels. I tightened screws, let it dry, put 2 small balls of regenerated silica gel inside and closed the watch.

I know it's not a WR 200 anymore, but I don't care. The watch has been working perfectly for two weeks now.
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>>18544870
The Polaris line is kind of a mess. There are divers, chronographs, travel watches, alarm watches and even perpetual calendars. Typical Richemont's strategy of product line extension.
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>>18544883
pretty cool
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>>18544890
Also unpopular opinion: JLC should relaunch the Albatros line.
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>>18544890
>The Polaris line is kind of a mess.
It’s poorly marketed, like all JLCs, but it’s pretty cohesive, to be fair. They stopped marketing them as divers and scrapped some of the unpopular variants. The only remnants of the dive heritage is calling the alarm version Mariner, which is a callback to an older model anyway.

>100m WR sports watch
>42mm case, stubby lugs, thin bezel
>pencil hands, 60s style dial with applied indices. Fume dials.
>Available in all JLC’s typical complications

Like, you can look at a Polaris now and recognize it as one from across the room, regardless of complication or material.
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>>18544883
>cleaned the pivots and didn't oil them back
oh
ooooh nooooo
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>>18544896
You know you've fucked up when "Blancpain did it better" is a possible response.
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>>18544896
Looks like the bracelet from the Patek Neptune
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>>18544924
Eh, I prefer the JLC.
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How much will rolex raise prices due to tariffs in the US?
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>>18544970
We don’t know because the tariffs change day-to-day. The expectation is that consumers have to eat a 10-15% hit.
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Where is the line drawn for a watch to be considered a frankenwatch? If I replace the mainspring during a service, is it now a frankenwatch? If I source a donor movement of the exact same caliber and replace a broken stem with the donor stem, is that a frankenwatch? My collection is mostly vintage/neo-vintage and I've never really given it a second thought. Although, I do make an effort to maintain original parts as much as possible (for example, if I'm servicing an old oyster perpetual, I will source genuine rolex parts for that movement caliber/era). Can someone tell me what frankenwatch means. Does it refer to a mismatched case/crown and movement?
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>>18544985
My guess: if the replacement parts are the same OEM parts the manufacturer would use to repair the watch, it's not a frankenwatch.
But if you're not planning to sell the watch, who cares? Just keep all the original bits in the box and change whatever you like.
t. Swapping my speedmaster bezel through Omega service center soon
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>>18544883
Do you not have any watch stores near you to repair it for you?
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>>18544985
If a component is replaced with like-for-like (or, in the case of an obsolete part, the upgraded replacement that the OEM would install during a factory service) that is not a Franken.
Even if you replace, say, a plexi crystal with a generic replacement, that’s still not a Franken, though you should be upfront about it.

A Franken is when a bunch of loose parts are kit bashed together. They don’t start as a complete watch.
Taking a complete watch and replacing a dial or bezel to turn it into a rarer/more desirable model is more like just forgery, but that’s only a problem if you try to sell it as the rare model.

Back when getting spare Onega parts was really easy I turned my boring Speedmaster into a Mitsukoshi using factory parts. (When I sold it, I was honest about what I did and why I was selling a Mitsukoshi for normal SMP money. I also kept the original dial and hands.)
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>>18544988
That's my stance as well. All of my current watches I'll keep for the rest of my life. Once it's my watch, I'll do whatever I want to it. I recently sold a watch produced in 2020 and had a potential buyer ask if it was a frankenwatch and I wondered what this autism was. From my experience, Omega is all about doing what the customer wants. Those serviceman are lads
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What was your first big boi watch?
For me it was picrel. I bought it in store around 2010-2011 I think for 1200 euros. I just checked the price and now it's 2300 euros lmao
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>>18544998
that's a shitter, not a big boy watch.
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>>18544999
Sure, but it's still better than your Seiko mod, Ranjeet.
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>>18544998
ah yes the "I wish I could wear my kitchen clock as a watch" shitter
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>>18544998
A used and beat up Rolex 1601 Datejust. What a piece of shit it was. I got so lucky when I sold it, though, because it had a rivet bracelet that neither I nor the seller knew was more valuable than the watch itself.
I ended up selling the bracelet and the watch separately, more than doubling my money. I used it to buy my Explorer II, which I’ve had to this day.
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>>18544998
>MADE IN 30 GERMANY
The designer should be forced to commute with Deutsche Bahn for the rest of his life.
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>>18544998
The Max Bill was so popular a few years ago.
I still think the 3 hands no date version is nice.
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Lately I'm more and more into collecting old tools related to watches, like 60's Olympic Omega Stopwatches and 80's Heuer Trakmasters. As well as loupes and other memorabilia. This is part of my collection.
Anyone relates? Somebody acquiring their own collections?
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>>18544643
Nice!
Would you mind posting a pic of what you already own in your collection?
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>>18544861
Is grey the new blue?
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>>18545014
NTA but i like their Form A
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>>18544643
How about Seiko Elnix?
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Thoughts? I think it's fun.
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>>18544998
>45O—9
>25 —O15
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>>18545062
What it do?
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>>18545073
The hands move left and right and it goes 'beep beep'.
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My nigga Walton Goggins wearing a full gold Reverso
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>>18545073
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX99XwOLv9I
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what's the manliest watch and why is it a marathon?
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>>18544883
>Sorry for posting Citizen,
You guys are so brainwashed
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>>18544997
The swatch service center here seems to be very friendly and accommodating, but to get through to them you have to deal with the boutique staff. The Dubai Mall Omega boutique staff are some of the worst retail employees I've ever interacted with, and this is over a 10 year period. I once went in to try on the Constellation Globemaster, and they asked "do you have a picture of it?" Blancpain is also swatch but their customer service is really good. It's specifically Omega. They refused to accept that different bezels for the speedmaster even exist, they thought I wanted a part from another watch.
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u guys like my daytona?
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>>18545442
needs a crash version
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>>18545393
nice citizen
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>>18545011
he probably does it voluntarily
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>>18545462
pretty sure marathon uses eta movements
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>>18545432
That sucks man. Did you end up getting the bezel or did you get cockblocked by the boutique staff?
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>>18545467
The servicechads called and said it's possible and to bring the watch in. Boutiquecels seething. The watch is going for service as well so I'll post a pic in 6-7 weeks. I'll be seikomaxxing during that time.
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>>Your budget
max $4k
>>Preferred brand or manufacture
European
>>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot, etc
GMT
>>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz, etc
Automatic
>>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, chronograph, etc
GMT but otherwise simple. Not too thick
>>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet, etc
SS Bracelet
>>Wrist size or desired watch size
Max 40mm
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>>18545529
Nivada Antarctic GMT
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>>18545544
Disregard that >>18545544
Longines spirit zulu time.
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>>18545548
>13.5mm thick
lmao
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New version of the JLC Master Control Calendar.
Looks nice!
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>>18545595
It does. It’s just a dial variant?
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>>18545596
Yes. Limited to 500 units.
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>>18545133
pretty sure thats a cartier
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>>18545603
No, it’s obviously a Reverso. The new tribute in pink gold on mesh.
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>>18545529
Sinn 856 utc, fully TEGIMENTED
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>>18545607
This one looks nice but I still prefer the Classic over the Tribute.
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>>18545633
Same. I like the Arabic numerals better than the dart indices.
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Can I get an opinion?
Does this strap fit for this watch? I usually have it on a chunky brown pilot style. (I never wear it on the bracelet. Way too shiny.)
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>>18545671
Yeah looks nice. Cool watch too.
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watch id?
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>>18545713
It’s nothing.

The props from the movie were sold a few years ago
https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/nicholas-cage-rick-santoro-watch-and-jewelry-from-snake-eyes/a/997051-2908.s
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>>18545393
zogbot shitter
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>>18545671
Looks fine. The Type XX is a pretty versatile watch so it looks good with basically anything. I see it most often on black or dark brown gator.
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I really like citizen attesa. such a nice tool watch.
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>Frederique Constant
>solid gold perpetual calendar
>30k eurobucks
What even is the public for this?
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shitters for avaturdfaggots
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>>18546047
Hey Ranjeet, how was work at the call center today?
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>>18546051
Don’t reply to bittercel’s bot. It’s pointless.
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>>18546041
>there's probably an ounce of gold in it
>that's like $3k
>somehow that bumps value of this shitter by $26k
great deal
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>>18546041
On the one hand, that is actually cheap for a perpetual calendar in gold but, then, the kind of people who buy a perpetual calendar in gold don’t fucking care about getting the cheapest.

I’m guessing they only made like five of them and they just put them in the catalog for “prestige” purposes.
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>>18546064
Either that or they make them on demand. They use that movement in other watches, so it would just be a matter of producing the gold case.
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nifty
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>>18545442
jackie daytona
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>>18544896
I don't disagree, I had a chance to buy the 35mm one for 800 bucks, I shoulda bought it
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>>18546041
Poop
Just get a used blancpain or jlc
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>>18546145
>those divots
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What is the most beautiful Rolex Day-Date?

I’m currently searching on the grey market and have narrowed it down to the following options:

Yellow gold, white dial, gold sticks - unfortunately apparently only available in 36mm, and desu for many men that’s a bit of the penny-pincher/cope-size these days.

Yellow gold, black dial, white sticks - 40mm - pretty good, but the contrast feels a bit harsh.

Yellow gold, white dial, gold Roman numerals - 40mm - very beautiful and harmonious, but almost a bit too retiree.

Everose, olive green dial, gold Roman numerals - 40mm - really really nice. So far I find the least to criticize; only possible downside is that one might eventually get tired of it since it’s not as universal as a white or black dial?

The green dials for yellow gold are a bit too flashy for me, and silver or gold dials and everything with diamonds feel a bit over the top.

Platinum with an ice-blue dial is of course incredibly cool, but completely disproportionate in price. Maybe someday in the distant future.
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>>18546327
The metal depends on your skin tone. I think the Everrose with the Slate Ombré dial is very good looking, but I’m too white to wear it.
For me, it would be the white gold with meteorite dial.
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>>18546145
neat idea but the shapes are objectively bad design.
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>>18545060
Basically the same system Lip and Timex used.
Except they're even more annoying to find so eh, I'm not really looking for them.
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>>18546548
Ah i see, i thought they were unique.
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>>18545544
I like it.
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>gf borrows Reverso for a day
>it now has a huge scratch on the side of the case
Why are women like this?
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>>18546631
Because men’s work traditionally involves working with your hands, it becomes second nature to take your watch, wedding ring, etc off before doing anything. Women don’t have that habit, so they’ll do whatever with whatever they’re wearing.
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>>18546631
This is 100% your fault. You should have given her a $10 chinese clone that she can fuck around with instead of letting her use your stuff. They are like children and will make disasters out of everything if they're left unsupervised for too long
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>>18546633
The Rolex salesman told me the safest place your watch could be is on your wrist.
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>>18544896
looks like a citizen but not dinner plate but also worse dial
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>>18546631
ask her to buy a new one
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>>18546858
I'll just break one of the stuff she likes the most.
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>>18546876
Sounds like a healthy relationship.
On another note, cop or not?
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>>18546916
ACAB
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>>18546916
Vario has made one of the most hilarious watch I can think of. The Versa.
It's a Reverso Duoface cope with 2 quartz movements in a 26 x 40 x 18mm case (18mm is the thickness).
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>>18547005
At least they don't just do Sub Clone #2355
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>>18547015
Sub Clone #2355 would be better than a 18mm thick dress watch.
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>>18547042
No, it wouldn't. Clones are quite literally completely worthless.
Also, I was asking about a watch with 10mm thickness.
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>>18546916
Not, Don’t buy microshitters, no matter how vintage inspired value they deliver straight to the enthusiast by cutting out the middleman.
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>>18547175
Who's the middleman, and what should I buy if I want precisely that exact watch but don't want to cut them out?
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>>18547175
Let's assume I have $30k to spare (cause I do) and want a <41mm watch with a dial twisted by 2h, no other complications, and a pocket watch look.
What would you recommend?
Cause from where I'm standing, I got the feeling that what I want isn't offered by anyone else at any price point.
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>>18547182
Vacheron American?
Or you could buy the real thing and actually buy a vintage trench watch, then pay to have it restored.
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>>18547188
I've looked at VA of course and didn't like the style.
Also, please explain to me why trying to acquire a watch from 110 years ago, rebuilding it at my own cost and dealing with the risk involved would be better than buying a new watch in the style I like with 2 years warranty for 300€?
Cause the math ain't mathing in my head.
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>>18546916
Looks like silly steampunk shit. Do you wear a top hat with a bunch of gears glued to it?
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>>18547182
RGM Watches in Lancaster PA offers one with a couple dial variants I've been considering buying, and they're way cheaper than that. A lot of people will say get the VC American because of the brand name and you can afford it, but if you're someone that already has watches from big brands like Rolex and Omega and you'd like something a little less NPC in your collection maybe something like that could be a cool choice.
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>>18546041
>What even is the public for this?
rich white liberal eugenicists
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>>18547236
>rich
>white
>eugenicist
Ok, based so far…
>liberal
Huh? How?
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>>18547193
you start with I HAVE BILLIONS AND BILLIONS IN BUDGET and when anon offered you good advice you recoil with retarded take about cost.
if your goal is cost effectiveness go buy a fucking casio.
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This is the only watch you ever need
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>>18547236
Rich people don't buy Frederique Constant shitters. They buy Rolex, Cartier, Patek and Richard Mille.
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Vintage Vacheron deserve more love.
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>>18547229
Good advice, just for the satisfaction of seeing that OP doesn't actually have 5 figures to spare for this watch and he wanted the microshitter all along
>uuuh actually it's not worth it the value just isn't there.....
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>>18546916
>>18547229
These watches (including the VC American) are ugly, stupid and larpy-tier.
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>>18547573
It does. They had so many interesting designs in the 70s through the 90s. Their catalog is relatively boring now. Just like every other HH brand.

>”Traditional” dress watch that is still 40mm across for some reason
>A hundred variations on their integrated bracelet sports watch
>A few incredibly complicated showpiece watches that no one will ever wear, that buyers bought as investments
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>>18547577
What are they larping?
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>>18547752
>What are they larping?
Muh 1920s bourgeois gentleman faggot with a frock coat and a top hat.

These watches take the retro vibe way too far to the point they look like props for a Sherlock Holmes movie. It's not just the tilted dial, but also the cathedral/Breguet hands, the font, the case design, the small seconds... All of these design elements combined in one watch are way too much. People will call you "that Peaky Blinders nigga" for wearing it. Do you want to be known as the guy with a weird watch? I don't.

btw the Vacheron American 1921 is what plebs and pajeets picture as "class" and "old money". Avoid that shit at all costs.
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>>18547820
I would unironically wear it with a t-shirt while watching the footy game with a case of cold ones.
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>>18547825
This is the funniest thing to me about seeing people talk about dress watches and classic watchmaking, people make such a big deal over what the rest of your fit is going to look like with your watch and whether or not it's going to go but it's really not a big deal at all. You don't have to wear a wetsuit with your dive watch so why do you need a suit and tie to wear a dress watch? It's fucking retarded. There's nothing better than wearing a nice little gold watch light sweater and having coffee with the family during the holiday season. I'll wear a gold watch with denim pants and jacket just to go out to dinner with my wife at a pub, I don't give a fuck. If the watch suits you and you're not a little bitch there's nothing to be insecure about.
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>>18547845
Galactic-level chad in the thread.
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>>18547845
I love how there's always a retard who think he has an original opinion about watches while saying the most obvious thing.
>DURRR I WOULD WEAR A GOLD DRESS WATCH WITH JEANS!!! I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!!!
Wow! We've got a bad boy over here!
Nigga, people have been wearing dress watches with jeans and dive watches with suits for over 70 years now. There's a famous pic of Muhammad Ali wearing a Cartier Tank with a t-shirt. Delon was wearing a Tank with denim jackets. JFK was wearing an Omega Tank while sailing. The Beatles were wearing complicated gold Patek while taking LSD in India. It's not even a celebrity thing, every boomer were doing it in the 70s. Same with wearing a Sub with a suit, it's a 1960s thing lmao
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>>18547893
I don't know why you'd think I'd disagree with that. I'm talking to people who don't know this shit but always show up everywhere here and on other forums and in all honesty probably don't even own a luxury watch and just larp online about it.
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>>18547845
the greatest reddit cope is the guy with 5 black dial dive watches saying he can't justify a dress watch because he never wears suits
no one wears suits anymore the people shopping at PP nowadays do so in very expensive italian silk tracksuits
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The upcoming purple-dial 37mm Grand Seiko UFA is calling my name. I've been waiting for spring drive under 40mm and it's finally here. The dial looks warlock-certified. All the other spring drive watches have too much negative space and look empty to me because of the oversized diameter. The question is, if I had the UFA would I still wear my speedmaster? Usually deciding which watch to wear is very straightforward, but a steel chrono and a steel GS have overlapping use-cases imo.
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>>18547912
Anon it's 2025, the era of meme brands is over. Don't fall for the Grand Soiko meme.
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>>18547971
With smaller spring drive watches on the horizon it seems like the era of GS has only just begun.
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>>18547985
People don't want spring drive. Or Grand Seiko in general.
Only a handful of very vocal redditors find GS cool and interesting. In the real world more and more stores stop carrying the brand and the watches take a massive hit on the second hand market.
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>>18547990
GS was interesting when it was an unknown hipster brand that you couldn’t get outside of Japan.
>They’re like Rolex quality, man, but the Japanese keep them for themselves because the rest of the world can’t appreciate them.
Then as soon as they show up in the market, people quickly lose interest, while the hipsters try to pull the same trick with Credor.
>It’s like the Japanese…uh…Chopard?

GS, these days, is propped up entirely by paid reviews on YouTube.



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