Why did male fashion undergo debimboification and how do we fix this tragedy?
>>18560651we already did, those who want to dress like this can dress like this if they put their mind to itbut the thing is, what Beau Brummell did for mens fashion shouldn't be discounted as making it "boring", he democratized mens fashion for more men, and eventually men from all classes, and began a codification of rules, standards, and tropes that evolved into what we now understand as 21st century menswear, which is a broad palette with a large enough pool of cultural signifiers, contributed by all social classes and corners of the world, that one can communicate nearly anything they wish to about themselves with the right choice of clothing.That isn't to say I'd be against a "re-bimbofication" of male fashion that doesn't veer into outright crossdressing, but personally, I like the elegance of a 21st century formal suit, and I think that style of clothing paired with makeup, wigs, and a more effeminate but not gaudy sensibility towards colors, patterns, and hairstyles is a lovely aesthetic that I'd love to see more of in the world.
>>18560651https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Male_Renunciation
>>18560723>one >themselvesHimself. We're talking about men here, not trannies.
>>18560778You fucking idiot, do you know anything about engli-...wait a minute, I don't have to waste my time getting angry over bait posts. I don't even like 18th century fashion!
>>18560846The topic is about men you filthy tranny. When you're talking about men even when using the word "one", you say himself, not themselves which itself is a plural. Fucking tranny brained subhumans can't even speak basic English anymore.
>>185606514 is best tbqh famalam
>>18560651The sword and walking stick should be reversed. 1 lived in a time of real duels to the death and can and did kill people in them, by the time of 5 you used pistols and it was lame and gay.
>>18560852thissimpler yet still playful
>>18560858> real duels to the deathThe only thing (you) have ever duelled with is somebody else's penis
>>18560846lel
>>18560651I'm not sure what happened can be fixed, fashion is at the mercy of the few which imbue to the fifthly masses
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>>18560849Do you also cry because "you" went from plural to singular back in the 17th century?
>>18561032I do
>>18561032Are you too much of tranny to speak proper English, especially as a man, when addressing another man? What kind of a tranny dilator compelled you to do the they/them tranny routine when normal men say himself when using "one" with reference to a man?
>>18560849>NOOOO ENGAGE IN MY RAGEBAIT I NEED YOU TO BE AS MISERABLE AS I AM
>>18561040Why do you speak bastardized English and not proper English from centuries ago?
>>18560956yeah because I'm not a cool old timey fop who actually killed people while peacocking better than any modern man. When I say we must retvrn to tradition this is what i mean.
post more feminine men in suits
>>18561177Why do you insist on talking like a subhuman tranny?
golden age
>>18561657Nice curtains.
>>18561638
>>18560651beau brummell was right
I really wish it was still fashionable to wear capes. You know what, fuck it. I might just start wearing a cape. I'll bring it back.
>>18560651>bimboificationthis made me think, you associate dressing in expensive and delicate clothing with stupidity, but to me it's the opposite. if you put no effort into your appearance and wear something like a gray tshirt and a pair of dirty overalls, you're like a child or an animal. it also takes more mental capacity to succeed at life enough to be able to wear expensive and intricate clothing and accessories.
>>18561823I was thinking more in terms of being "slutty and flamboyant". Good to know you have an insanely dim view of common people though
were i a noble backwhen i would dress like descartes or spinoza. all black, black stockings, hits of white and silver on my cuffs and buckled shoes respectively. i never knew why some of them went for this. maybe they were chuds and didnt like the feminine fashions of the day.
>>18562417It's a good look, still
>>18562431
>>18560723>what Beau Brummell did for mens fashion shouldn't be discounted as making it "boring", he democratized mens fashion for more men, and eventually men from all classes, and began a codification of rules, standards, and tropes that evolved into what we now understand as 21st century menswear, which is a broad palette with a large enough pool of cultural signifiers, contributed by all social classes and corners of the world, that one can communicate nearly anything they wish to about themselves with the right choice of clothing.yeah no it's super boring
>>18562417if youre a noble make sure you can fight in battle.
>>18561638you have to be utterly deranged to think this aesthetic.
>>18562865nah
>>18563015If he didn’t have that hair, he would look like a pedo magician. His hair is like 50% of his outfit.
>>18563016and?
>>18562329common people used to dress in a way that would probably be considered flamboyant by today's standards, even if it was considered basic back then. nowadays the masculine default is a beerbellied skinnyfat man wearing a graphic t-shirt, a faded half open zip up hoodie, cheap jeans and old dirty sneakers.
>>18563262You're joking, right? Common people wore shitty earth-toned stuff, because colors before synthetic dyes and all that weren't affordable at all for the common man and like 99% lived in what today would be considered poverty. These days it would be considered a larp, not "flamboyant" lmao.
>>18560651If you want to dress like this then you should. I wear a kaleidoscope of colors, silks, and 10lb of jewelry every day and I get endless compliments. Women especially love it. I'm not a cute twink either I'm a large, overweight, bearded man with the hair of a homeless guy. Throw on a ruffle, drink often, and carry yourself confidently, then this style will be better for you than any of the retarded bullshit you'll hear on this board.
>>18564886>Common people wore shitty earth-toned stuff,That's bullshit fantasy history peddled by (((hollywood))). Medieval people wore plenty of colorful clothing, not just in Europe but the entire world. Natural plant based dyes weren't all that expensive in the medieval times because people were surrounded by nature and farms. The expensive ones were usually mineral dyes.
>>18560723if moids crossdressed, they'd be hotter. but moids dont wanna be hotter, they wanna whine>>18560989howd he make his hair do that lmfao
>>18565196Retard, everything women wear today was originally men's clothing. They've been doing nothing but cross dress for decades.
>>18565196>howd he make his hair do that lmfaoOne heavy strike from a firepoker.
>>18560651>debimboificationGoogle "The Great Male Renunciation."
>>18560858>can and did kill people in themand would then be charged with murder
>>18565196>howd he make his hair do thatwig
Somewhat related fit for my bro's wedding. Was going for a bootleg red carpet fruitlord look with a Western hint. Ended up looking a touch funereal as everyone was in tans and blues
>>18565213only if the cops could keep up with them
>>18565429you need to mew and get down to like 8-10% bodyfat, or start working out. depends on where you want to go with this look. but you can't stay here.
>>18565429i'd recommend some proper high waisted dress pants, or some lower rise jeans, the middle ground doesn't work here>>18565818yeah what he said
>>18565429How much do you mourn the fact that your bro is getting married?Don't wear black for celebrationsI don't like what's going on at the knees and above of your pantsthe length is fine though.
>>18567887>>18565907>>18563015>>18561638hazbin/vivziepop brainrot bullshit
>>18560852Indeed. Shortening the waistcoat/vest was the right idea that just made it all come together perfectly.
>>18560651I assume dressing like a flamboyant faggot had more to do with aristocrat men wanting to flex their wealth? So the modern equivalent to that would be shit like gangsta rappers wearing expensive clothes and jewelry.
>>18568052obesity speaks. dandies fuck hotter women than you ever will, toad.
>>18568179i'm fit and I don't like to wear heavy clothes because they hide my gains plus it's hot as fuck the whole year where I live
>>18568189you're fat.
>>18567896i was just getting to that, as it happens
>>18568412
>>18560743I'm bringing it back, homies.
>>18568414I'm with you. Fuck boring clothing.
>>18565196>whining about whiningVery boomer minded.
>>18560989>fashion is at the mercy of the few which imbue to the fifthly massesThe lost of colours and volume in mens' clothing is 100% the fault of Geroge Brummell and George IV.
>>18565429Wrong shirt size, those sleeves are WAY too long.
>>18568950its literally fine what are you on aboutdo you think picrel is the correct length?
>>18560651Because everyone hated Louis he was a fucking weirdo faggot that got too tyrannicalim glad it changed because coat napoleonic military inspired drapes are where its at, its masculine and cool and edge how a man should be. Not a faggot that gets easily triggered and attempts to kill the opposition then masculine men raise against you and kill you, rightfully so, for being a faggot.
>>18561333Checked, at least you didn't deny it, respect anon, for being proud of your hobbies
>>18568948Is it really still his fault? Nobody dresses like that anymore, most people dress like homeless people. Actually I take that back I've seen homeless people better dressed than half the population.
>>18569584Too short, actually. They're sized for each other but your wrist shouldn't be so far away from the cuffs. Get your jacket altered and get a new shirt. Make sure to get the last cuff button moved to the front. Do MTO/MTM on the shirt if you're in between sizes. Your collar points are way too small in general so you need a new shirt anyway. You have the same issue RFK has with his collar. The points should reach your lapels.
>>18568948Men were wearing plenty of colors and patterns throughout the 1950s-2000s. It's only zoomers and millennials who stopped wearing colors in the name of "muh minimalism". Now the only thing these cucks wear are white, grey and black, and navy blue if they were feeling a bit bold that day.https://youtu.be/1u5Gkh2t1ZI?t=5
>>18569584What the fuck is that collar, genuinely baffled at how small it is, the tie doesn't fit underneath it, never seen something like that beforeWhen bending your arm at the elbow at 90 degrees the edge of the cuffs should cover your wrist bone.while the balance of shirt sleeve to jacket sleeve is correct, they are a size too smallThe pants are still too short even though you're wearing heels which follows a bit different rules.
>>18571875>>18571879i was posting this in jest to make fun of the idea the sleeves were "too long"this isn't my fit, i saved it from another thread ages ago
>>18571878I sometimes like to wear red. It's like you say "I am here for the Sex."
>>18571878The Peacock Revolution happened once; we can make it happen again!
Would it be too gay to get a suit with shoulder pads and a snatched waist?
>>18573826depends on gay you're okay with looking
>>18573826Gay? Nah. It just sounds fun and bold to me.
>>18573812Yes. Say no to zoomer and millennial cuckold fashion. Boomers had more style and balls than all the succeeding cuck generations combined.
>>18573879 >>18573812this style but with cute pale feminine twinks with anime hair is what i wanna see in the world
>>18573922David Bowie core.
It looked like shit and it was a shithole period.
male fashion is pretty gay today, not because of the clothes, but because men aren't men anymore. you can dress androgynously and still be manly, it's just how you present yourself. look at someone in the realms of mick jagger, later era david bowie, new wave artists and even prince. people nowadays just don't know how to dress therefore, they have no realm to experiment. fashion is about balance and creativity.
>>18573879Unironically true. I wish men still dressed like this.
>>18573879the 60s was cringe>>18568948this can work but combined with modern pants, coat open, make it a frock coat, make the boots non-horse riding boots regular solid color t-shirt underneath or a button up and a tie, you cna keep the neckerchief just another style more cowboy western maybeand thats it u are wokstar, modern dandy
>>18574389Boomers were based when they were young.
This is what peak male fashion looks like.
>>18560651the average male became poor>No eyelashesRich men stopped showing opulence just to be relatable>"It's okay anon, money is gay"
