/balding/ and /finasteride/ general - hair is love, hair is life!Sticky: http://tuxbell.com/index.php/BaldingReminder that if you can clearly see down to your scalp when your hair is wet, your hair is thinning, lots of small new hairs sprouting at the hairline or crown is a sign of hair recession.Holy trinity:Tabs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinasterideLotion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MinoxidilShampoo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KetoconazoleFinasteride/Dutasteride are 5-alpha reductase inhibitors that prevent free T from being converted to DHT, a byproduct of testosterone that serves no purpose after puberty but to choke out your hair follicles and make them thin out and die in a few short years, a condition known as androgenic alopecia.5ar inhibitors prevent your hair from getting any worse, mild regrowth is expected, rapid onset diffuse thinners see a significant recovery on fin alone. Can be taken orally or topically.5ARIs are not dosage dependent, taking as little as as 0.2mg daily fin can reduce serum DHT by 68%, while 5mg reduces by 72%.0.5mg daily dut reduces serum DHT by 95%, but is considered a second line treatment, and can be more expensive and harder to get prescribed. Start with fin.Fin has been used to treat benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) for 30+ years, it's very well studied and is tolerated well in almost all men, however, there's a 1-2% risk of erectile issues in controlled studies.These can be avoided by reducing dosage, spacing out dosage, or stopping the drug. Fin takes days to fully bio-accumulate, the half life of fin is about 8 hours, adverse effects occuring within minutes of starting fin or persisting long after stopping fin are not real and have no basis in reality. Please note that dut has a much higher half-life of 5 weeks, if you're prone to fin sides, dut may cause them for far longer.Refer to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3481923/ before responding to PFS trolls.(continued on next post)
Minoxidil (liquid and tabs) is a vasodialator that opens potassium channels and widens blood vessels bringing nutrients to your hair follicles, stimulating them into thickening, accelerating growth and elongating the growth phase. Min is taken with fin to restore your hair to it's original hairline, thickness and vigor when hair loss is caught early enough, (pre-NW2). Can be taken orally or topically.Topical min does not work in 1/3 of men because they lack the required enzymes in their scalp, all men have this enzyme in their liver so the oral route is a good fallback.The FDA formulation for 5% liquid minoxidil is food safe (vape juice, ethanol and water) and can be safely taken orally if oral min tabs are expensive or rarely prescribed where you live. As a general rule, ~4 drops (0.1ml) = 5mg minoxidil.There's a 1-2% risk of fluid retention with higher oral dosages, start with the lowest dosage possible and work your way up when you're sure it's well tolerated.Ketoconazole is an anti-androgen and antifungal that inhibits DHT on the scalp and used to treat fungal infections of the scalp that may be making your hair loss worse such as seborrheic dermatitis, a condition where you exhibit severe greasy, flaky large dandruff flakes with dried yellow crystals (blood plasma) embedded in the scalp. Some people may only have traction alopecia (hair loss from scratching or friction), but it will not cure androgenic alopecia on it's own. Can only be taken topically.Do not use spirolactone. Spirolactone is a diuretic which, in large doses, inhibits testosterone and, by extension, DHT.It is regularly prescribed as an anti-androgen for male to female HRT, and thus, comes with an astronomically higher risk of sexual side effects in men including ED, gynecomastia, and can cause potassium toxicity.Previous thread: >>18557141
For me, it was buying a bottle of Nizoral shampoo and rubbing ketoconazole cream on my thinning spots. One week made a huge difference.t. Diffuse thinning.
>Started Nizoral December 2023>Started Fin April 2024>Started Min July 2025>Still baldingFuck me.
>>18576667What does your thinning pattern look like? Thinning at the temples? Crown? Diffuse thinning all over? Very important.
Reminder that Post Finasteride Syndrome is REAL.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emhyp4J_sSQqrd / tldw>former U.S. national guard soldier>bodybuilder for 15 years>has everything going in life, educated, successful career, spouse, etc.>no prior mental health issues>starts taking (((finasteride))) and experiences...>brain fog>insomnia>anhedonia>slurred speech>motherfucking SKULL SHRINKAGE>feels zero emotions>lost the ability to sweat>perpetually zoned out>quits finasteride>severe muscle loss>can't get gym pumps anymore>rest of the problems persist for over 2 years and continue to this dayFinasteride basically took everything away from him.And yet there are disgraceful dipshit zoomers here who claim that Post Finasteride Syndrome isn't real, you must feel really proud of yourselves.
>>18576667post hairline
>>18576652im waiting for the taiwan research to come to marketnever taking pills that will cuck me
how bad is the fin/min shed? working on getting a prescription for oral fin and min but worried about the initial shed making my hair look even shittier
>>18576973if your hair is already norwood fried it's gonna look like shit, like 10-25% density loss, the shed starts about 3 months in and lasts up to 3 months but you'll always bounce back stronger, I really suggest doing fin and min at the same time because the increased hair growth rate means you bounce back from sheds in like 2 weeks instead of months.
>Month 4,5 of Finasteride 1mg daily>Shedding haltedAm I going to make it?
Use spirolactone. Spirolactone is a diuretic which, in large doses, inhibits DHT.It is regularly prescribed as an anti-estrogen for female to male HRT, and thus, comes with an astronomically lower risk of sexual side effects in men.I’ve been on spiro for a few months now and the results are nothing short of legendary. Spiro is the ultimate anabolic tonic that sends test levels skyrocketing. I have >thicker, fuller hair: my temples which had been thinning are filling back in rapidly>facial hair renaissance: patchy beards are a thing of the past. Spiro turbo-charges follicle activity The science is settled: spiro cranks up test production and unleashes it directly at the follicular level. Dermatologists call it “anabolic follicular supercharging.”If you’re ready to stop playing with bullshit like minoxidil and want to grow a mane worthy of a Norse god, you need to buy spiro. Just don’t forget to get a bigger comb.
>>18576664Been using Nizoral since around April and desu I think it's done more harm than good. Maybe I'm fucked either way but since I started using it my hair damaged and thin. Going to stop for a while and see if I bounce back.
For those of you who use the spray/topical fin/min solution, how do you apply it? My prescription comes with a spray head attached but I've always applied it via dropper.
>>18576664you definitely didn't have androgenetic alopecia then
>>18577406I don’t know what it is. I have this weird receding diffuse thinning. Like a receding stripe that looks significantly less dense with visible scalp. Meanwhile where the hairline exists looks fine. Nizoral is filling those patchy areas back, as well as rubbing 2% keto cream on the affected areas.
GUYShttps://gulfnews.com/world/asia/baldness-breakthrough-taiwanese-serum-regrows-hair-in-20-days-1.500324675
>>18577493ratbros... we fucking won
>>18577493Hair regrowth has been possible for decades. The problem is reducing side effects. It’s why genetic engineering hair growth could potentially break you like injecting code into a program, thinking it would fix everything. You’d stop being you, basically.
>>18577505they are mice actually
>>18576720Works fine on my machine.
>>18576652Post-Finasteride Syndrome is real.This poison fucked me up good and proper.
Got a hair transplant booked in 2 months anons but I'm getting serious cold feet, should I commit.>can end up getting botched and looking like shit>even good ones can look thin and pluggy at the hairline giving you an uncanny look>gotta take fin for the rest of my life or risk have clumps of transplanted hair and being completely bald everywhere else>recently found out can't really rock a shaved head after a getting one because the transplanted hairs stick out from native hair so it's either chrome dome or embracengl I'm getting pretty nervous, don't wanna end up regretting this
>>18577370planning this next week. ill just hop off once my hair is all back. norwood 5 to norwood 1 is worth a year or so of being slightly more feminine. who knows? i might even look like a twink hehe
>>18577783replace your missing testosterone with estrogen if you won't want your body to raid your bones for calcium
>>18577781Christopher Lee wore a hair system since like? his 30s? most people don't know this and he was smart about it, even getting ones with greying hair at a certain portion of his life and then eventually grey.If you can afford it go for a hairsystem.
>>18577781If the surgeon is willing to go through with the transplant without you taking fin prior to it and afterwards, then its a shit clinic and you would have gotten a shit result.
>>18577781What >>18577891 says If you're advanced Norwood they should also be talking to you about what you can "realistically" achieve rather than a pipedream
Any thoughts on why my hair looks so patchy when roughed up?Started both min and dut 4~ months ago, is this normal,Could it be possible to have both areata and AGA? I'm not sure why it looks like this
>>18578012This is it when combed forward
>>18578012It could just look patchy, because the hairs are thin on your crown, so when you shift them around a bit, you end up having this "islands" of hair and bald spots all over.When combed forward it doesn't look that bad, yeah you are clearly losing hair, but with dut and min, I think you have good odds for regrowth.Areata would look more like complete bald spots, which you don't have, you have hair, its just less of it all over and more thin.Anyway you need to be on treatment for ideally about 1 year, before you can somewhat tell what effect its having and then you can assess, if you need to make any changes.
>>18576652I saw that goodrx now offers oral min. Is it too dangerous to take that through a regular telehealth service? I've heard you should have an irl doctor watch you. But after the fin fearmongering, I don't know how much of that is baldie FUD.
>>18576667Play your trump card and switch from fin to dut. Might also be worth checking with a dermatologist to make sure it's androgenic alopecia and not some other curse.
>>18577781The big thing with hair transplants is just being sure you have a good clinic. Research it and don't fall for marketing. A huge red flag is if the person doing the procedure isn't actually a surgeon.
>>18578300If you can find a telehealth doctor to prescribe it for you, you're fine, 5% topical min via the oral route is cheaper tho.
>>18578300it's not really fud to say an old bp med can effect bp. it'll be on you to monitor it
>>18578318you're not gonna give yourself low blood pressure at the 2-10mg dosages common with hair regrowth, that shit is prescribed at 40-200mg and usually with a diuretic too.
>>18576652Topical min bros... How do you prevent your hair looking like ass for 8 hours (4 in the morning, 4 in the evening) every single day? My hair just soaks up this shit and becomes sticky and grainy, and then you can't brush it properly or anything. This problem happens both for foam and liquid. Foam at least dries quickly but the hair stays sticky and unbrushable. I have very short hair.
>>18579034Also what do you do if stay with a chick for the night lol
>>18579034stop putting it on your head and take 2-8 drops orally along with your fin/dut, i swear nobody reads the OP
>>18579047I have too many male relatives with heart issues, not taking the drops sorry.
>>18579035Fuck do you think? Apply it anyway.>what's that anon?>shit that makes my hair goodWomen apply shit all the time, what's so different in your case? In the case of a relationship, she probably should know, and in the case of a one night stand, do you REALLY give a shit if she sees you doing a hair routine?
What should I take for my hair? I’m a ftm tranny with schizophrenia.
>>18579035i don't think it's any more embarrassing than if you had to take daily medication for other reasons, it's not like you have to take off or put on some kind of medical device or worse, a toupee lmao
minoxidil is cope and a humiliation ritual
>>18579134being male is a humiliation ritual
