/wtpg/ #1 >>107308519inspired by >>107273779Post about wrist watches, pocket watches, clocks, sundials, quartz, automatic, mechanical winds, dials, authorized dealers, secondary markets, modding, building, tear downs, collecting, and counterfeits.Last thread was a bit still born because I posted it at 11pm EST Sunday, so it didn't pick up until the Americans woke up.
what is watch building like as a hobby?doesn't have to be mechanical. quartz is fine
>>18599177It's not so different from assembling computers complexity wise, though it requires more tools and dexterity. I made two, couldn't call that building since I was just assembling a case, strap, movement, dial and hands. It's a bit frustating since the vast majority of the parts available on aliexpress are clones of popular brands so any watch you assemble will look like a cheap derivative of a bunch of well known brand watches. But still interesting.This more involved side of the hobby is to service and repair vintage watches, that side can go really far (knowledge and experience required, cost of tooling). Plenty of channels on youtube but I haven't tried it myself.
>>18599176Are there any "super luxury" smart watches that are worth using. I've currently got a Garmin Fenix 8 sapphire 51mm with a titanium strap.
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There are four watch generals on /fa/ why do we need another one on /g/?
Behold the ugliest watch I've ever seen
>>18599181Watches are technology. Do /fa/shionistas even know how to swap watch movements in and out of a case? Do they know the difference between mechanical, quartz, and smart watches?
>>18599179Apple has the Ultra series. Since smart watches are turing complete, I suspect worth using is just about what apps you have installed, right?
>>18599182you need to put on your arab glasses
>>18599176We had the /wt/ here but mods made it go to /fa/.
>>18599183A lot of /g/entoomen visit the /fa/ board just for the /wt/, me being one of them.
>>18599186I suspect /g/ mods hate watches because it's impossible for transwomen to pull off wearing a lady's watch. Like the bracelet just won't literally fit and the dial will be hilariously small.
>>18599179That's not a watch, that's a watch-shaped computer.
>>18599183Yes and yes
>>18599177I put together one with an NH seiko movement, got the dial from a proper mod shop and the rest of the bits like hands, case, strap, movement from aliexpress. the quality was actually quite nice and came in under $100. Could do it well under if you got a cheap Chinese dial too.I accidentally broke off the seconds hand, as I was using a hand press thats just done by hand. they make little stands you can center and press down alot more accurately, id suggest getting one of those or a few extra cheap hands to practice on. Id suggest it for sure, if you already own an older seiko you could swap out the movement to get hacking, hand winding, etc from an NH and put the old movement into the custom build.tldr; its p fun
>>18599176
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watch id?
>>18599208Some breitling super ocean or something. Nice bomb lmaoo.
>>18599183Yes.>t. watchmaker
Kofé time.
>>18599677Pretty! How old is this watch?
>>18599507Do those bergeon tweezers cost more than the watches you work on perchance?
Should I get this black loop thing removed? its kind of bothering me, but then if I ever go back to a normal buckle, the strap won't do its job correctly
>>18599677kofe....
Kofe time.
>>18599182It looks very hard to read
>>18599939how much did the leman moonphase cost you?
>>18599922I don't get tweezers from Bergeon, they are not worth it. In general, you want to avoid Bergeon because it's never worth the price and every alternative is about as good. You go to them when they are the only ones still making that one niche tool.As far as tweezers go :>DumontGreat steel tweezers, endlessly reshapable, costly but worth the price>BecoTechnicBest price to quality ratio and it's not particularly close, especially on stuff like wooden tips or plastic tips tweezers>HoroswissTheir brass tweezers feel "just right" and age great as you reshape and rework them. I've been using and redoing them for years and they feel like that one pair of old battered shoes. It's just right.>BoleyCheap and (un)surprisingly good for the price (since they're made in the same swiss factories as a bunch of others but don't charge you extra for being muh authentic swiss tools with generations worth of heritage)
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>>18600035Surprisingly cheap. About 4.5k, box and papers included. I genuinely don't get why this watch isn't more popular given this value/price ratio
>>18599918Dunno
>>18599677Why this exact model?
>>18600448AE0432-07T from 1991
Bump
Decided to buy a watch. I've narrowed my selections down to a few. I'm a complete wristlet at 6.25-6.5". I work a somewhat physical job. I'd prefer a chronograph (I know this is limiting at my wrist size). I'd also prefer something understated that might work with the hybrid of vintage American work wear and smart casual I've been working towards.>Hamilton Field Khaki Murph 38mm Auto>Brew Retrograph Cobalt or Espresso Mecha-Quartz>Junghans Form C 40mm Quartz>Junghans Max Bill Chrono 40mm Any suggestions, thoughts or warnings about these for a first time watch buyer with a bitch wrist?
>>18602988>Brew Retrograph Cobalt or Espresso Mecha-QuartzWhat the fuck anon....
>>18603003Nigga, I ain't that serious, they're cheap and one of the few chronos in my size range.
>>18602988Mechaquartz is cool. regular quartz' 1 tick/second makes me depressed
>>18602988>>18603092furthermore if you really have a bitch wrist - quartz is lighter so the mechaquartz might be your sweetspot
>>18599182looks like a fake
>>18599182Straight up brandslop and people pay thousands to display it on their wrist.
>>18599177Do a Seiko mod, it'll be cheap
after looking all the watch threads in the catalog, the poorfag watch thread is the best since it's not a bunch of dipshits jerking off over a few brands and there's more variety
>>18603697I hate poor people and if u can't muster up over $500 for a watch kys
>>18603697Harsh truth right there.
Pls help watchfags. I'm a poorfag that wants to get his gf a watch in the 2-300 price range for Christmas because she has complained she doesn't have one to wear when she dresses nice. The only real insight I have into her taste is she doesn't like rosegold. She really likes turtlenecks and peacoats if that means anything. Any recs greatly appreciated.
>>18603929I'm thinking a Bulova sutton
>>18599177desu just building from off the shelf parts is kinda too easy. Closest ive done is just a movement swap on an old watch and it took an evening as a total noob.most vintage watches are way too hard to repair, though, so its a bit unfortunate there isn't much of a middle ground.Still want to try doing a custom dial watch build, that sounds pretty involved.
>>18603952Specifically i want to try one using vintage parts. Even got some stuff together, an alpina 657 and a cool bulova accutron case, but i need to finish other stuff first.That will make it significantly cooler than seikomods
>>18603929start showing her pics and gauge reactionu can get a ton of stuff for that, ive never spent more than $150 on a watch but im not attached to brands nor afraid of broken stuff which i may or may not be able to fix
>>18602988Same wrist size and we're blessed because we got the wrist sizes perfect for everything vintageI'm a 34mm purist but also im not a chrono guy dont know what sizes vintage chronos are. I do know some are about that size tho. But really we can wear pretty much everything vintage perfect, hell i've only had issues with stuff being too small (i avoid <34mm)
>>18603963But yeah ive got a huge oversized 30s watch (37mm) and i can wear that too like back in those days our wrists are what mens watches were designed for
>>18599939Looks fine i expect that loop honestly not sure what weird ass strap youre using that doesnt need it.
>>18599191I bought one of those hand presses and its awkward and i hate it and havent touched it sinceThis type shit is way better. Got it on aliexpress too.
>>18603986Oh also if you do mess up and bend a hand to hell and back buy a scale modelling photoetch parts benderhad a dial + movement i bought where the hands were straight up flattened against the dial and thanks to it i got them perfect
>>18603929Casio f91
>>18599177I bought a $10 shitter and modded the dialits great the dial is your canvas, put whatever you wantjust gotta get those little levers and presses for the hands, mine are from aliexpresshad to sand the levers thinner though
>>18603096it was some "anniversary" edition slop they pushed out in 2008. why anyone bought them I have no idea, but there's basically the cheapest two-tone datejusts you can buy from the last 35 years.
>>18603886this
>>18603963i love this chart. Also, I too enjoy the 34mm size. I'm kinda in love with it thanks to my oysterdate precision (ref 6694). They did make an oysterdate precision ref 6664 that was 31mm, but a lot less dial variety and I think it was phased out by the late 70s.
Bump.
I'm asking chatGPT how feasible it is to contract mill work to recreate famous vintage movements whose patents have expired. For me the Rolex 1225, or whatever the oyster perpetual was using, would be awesome. ChatGPT is trying to convince me that it's hard to get something like that these days because they designed for 34mm cases back then, and the movements for bigger cases nowadays are just cheaper to manufacture for. Remember that whenever they try to tell you larger cases fit you better, they are just trying to make an excuse so you'll accept an easier-to-manufacture watch.
>>18599977Stop posting that in every thread. No one spells it "Kofe", faggot. >>18608404>I'm asking chatGPTWHY? It doesn't know anything. We're not there yet. A.I. isn't capable of answering a question like that and you shouldn't take anything it spits out seriously. Ever. You people think it's just magic and you trust it. Sad.
>>18608419>>I'm asking chatGPT>WHY? It doesn't know anything. We're not there yet. A.I. isn't capable of answering a question like that and you shouldn't take anything it spits out seriously. Ever.>You people think it's just magic and you trust it. Sad.OK but the design patents are expired for the Rolex 1225 now so I should be able to tell it to just read them and give me a CAD file I can send to a CNC shop, right?
I just bought this bad boy
>>18599177just liek make watchDials are the most feasible part as a hobbyist. Get a movement, a case and hands for it from aliexpress, make or modify your dial and put it together.
>>18608895what about using a watch you already one and just taking it apart to replace the dial?
>>18608907sure why not
>>18608404have you tried browsing Taobao? what's the name of the movement?
>>18608895Did you make that dial your self? It looks really good for a diy (but could have done without a date or lumed hands for my taste), can you make a guide on how it's made or link one you followed?
>>18608941I've talked about this in previous threads over a few years now. here's a collage of the v2 sakuya watch, you should be able to glean the gist of it from this. A lot of time in inkscape, separating parts into colors and layering. Then cut each one, and assemble with glue. This one was cut with a Cricut, which gives the edges a cleaner non-burnt look but limits complexity and small detail. The Nano watch was cut with a laser cutter, but chars the face and edges. Then test fit, and make any adjustments to layering to prevent the layered card stock from hitting the hands. I usually make three or four at a time since there's a lot of risk of messing up along the assembly process, and even individual cardstock blemishes may be unsightly even if the assembly process is perfect.My latest iterations use etched brass and paint instead. This greatly simplifies the hand process, but getting the paint consistent and even is a challenge in itself. I'm working up to glass enameling, but that requires a kiln I haven't bought yet.
>>18608964this is so based, grats
>>18603929what's her wrist measurement
>>18608924Rolex 1225, though I found out it's just a date module put on a base movement called Rolex 1210
picrel is the greatest and best watchall else is cope
>>18609135Funny thing is that this watch is 10x more “shock resistant” than the so-called “G-Shocks” that are 10x the price
>>18609135Pope Francis dailyed one of these. Just sayin’
>>18608964Just remember to zapon them before casing 'aight.
>>18608404ChatGPT and other AIs are mostly useless for watchmaking info because the info just isn't accessible online, and if it is then not freely and not very reliably, ESPECIALLY when it comes to manufacturing.As for how easy it would be : very difficult.>you need to get your hands on the specs and relevent manufacturing documents>you need machinery that can operate within the right tolerances>you need to get your hands on NOS shockproofing systems>milling will only cover the bridges and plates, still gotta take care of the gears, springs, hairsprings, fork and jewels, these last three being consideraly harder>Rolex can and will try to shut you down anyway even if they no longer have the patents if you in any way hint at their name in any material, as they do with people currently providing generic spare parts they are legally allowed to produceIt's not IMPOSSIBLE but as with any new caliber production, it would cost a fortune relative to the possible returns. There's a reason Nomos needed some serious investment to be able to produce the public domain Peseux to acceptable standards.If Soprod and LJP are struggling to settle and Sellita only survive by cutting corners when there is a glaring gap in the market, it's going to be even worse if you try that but with obsolete calibers.
>>18609181yeah but shocks make watch faggots have an aneurysm, the uglier the better
Paying Tudor full price when you can get a discounted Omega at an AD seems like a poor choice yes? Like the BB58 looks good, but fuck me. For that price I could negotiate myself a better deal next store over.
>>18603978It's just a normal folding clasp buckle with a hirsch strap designed for a pin buckle.
>>18609261Yeah Tudors are for cucks.>I’m going to spend thousands of dollars to buy Rolex’s “poor person” brand.
>>18609254Based
>>18608895Fucking gay weeb shit. Damn
>>18608964I appreciate the art and craftsmanship but I just don't know why adult men like that feminine 'cute' japanese culture shit. Unless you're Asian in which case it's slightly less weird for an adult man. Whatever. Yes I know what website I'm on.I've just never gotten a straight answer justifying pink anime shit as a hobby for men.
>>18609517I totally agree with this.I mean, if you're asian, it's weird because it's kids culture but at least it's *your* kids culture.If you're non-asian, then you're fantasizing about the kids culture of a different place entirely, and its cringe on both counts, plus being weirdly pervy
>>18609561Thank you. But as I've learned, we're really not supposed to talk about that here because this entire site is supposedly about anime. I just want to understand though. This board isn't nearly as shitted up with it as others. I guess the anons into fashion are less likely to be into anime stuff. At least dude's anime stuff is on-topic. It's totally cool to design and build watches.
>>18609182He daily'd this shitter
>>18609373Tudor made a better design than any Rolex
>>18609711lol
Vintage Tank louis manual small/ladies or a jlc master ultra thin moon? Ideally will get both, but having a hard time choosing between the two.I like the style and feminity of the Cartier compared to all my sports watches. I want something old gold and manual wound. But I also really like Jlc as a brand, and the MUT moon in black looks sick, with a display caseback to show off the movement. I am also an astronomy nerd and the moon is my favorite celestial body. Please provide your distinguished opinions, gents. Ladies please avoid.
>>18609561> if you're asian, it's weird because it's kids culture but at least it's *your* kids culture.Ah yes, asians, known for being one single homogenous group. Nonetheless, your argument has swayed me. I will be trashing all my weeb stuff and walking into the nearest Invicta AD tomorrow to embrace good old American culture: niggers.
>>18609711I stand corrected, that is nice. I wish Tudor would stop hawking black bays
>>18609757Ah yes, as we all know there are no white people involved in watch making besides invicta
>>18609784Ah yes, white people, known for being one single homogenous group
>>18609792>white people, known for being one single homogenous groupyes, actually
>>18609811Oh noThe americans are here
>>18609922>Yea goyim, white people should never unite! Brother wars forever!
>>18610041Says the golem ruled by banks and credit.pottery
>3k+ watch>2824 / sw200 moveshit>not even 2892 / sw300anyone else at the point where they completely dismiss a watch because it uses an eta 2824/clone?
>>18610055I would dismiss this watch before even looking at specs as ugly RO cope.
>>18610042name one european country that also isn't
