When people say you will be too old to attract women when you're your 30s do they include lean guys with hair or do they imagine we all get bald and fat?
>>18602348It's not a thing for straight men.50 yo men can get 30yo women if they have money and are reasonably healthy (if they look like they still have a couple decades to go), and literally make a functional family.50 yo women can't get 30 yo men and create a family. They can be cougars at best.Gay men need to branch out once they lose their twink appeal. They need to go niche (daddy, bear..).That's what you need to do, OP.
>>18602348mid to late 40s, been on the 4chins 20 yearssuccessful executive6'4", still look 10 years youngerhave zero issues now attracting women of any agewife not amusedadvice: stay fit, focus on good posture, dress well, speak well. Listen more.
>>18602358what age range should I approach, and what mistakes to avoid? I'm a slender east asian guy with full head of hair and what some people say a "pretty" face. I'm aslo 34 and feel like a dirty unc for looking at a woman in her 20s.
>>18602361Just to lie to her about your age and you're fine.I'd say 20 year olds are for 20 year olds or early 30s men, but around 27 yo women know that their clock is ticking. Many of them (not all) would settle for a 45 yo man who owns a house, a car and gets them to travel anywhere in the world every year.
>>18602367*just DON'T lie about your age
i mean, at 27 years of age, women already have 10 years of milleage.
>>18602361About a decade ago I was fucking a 21 year old for a couple of weeks. 2 weeks was all I could take of her annoying ass. We had nothing in common, and the pussy just wasn't that good.Here's the secret: you're about to hit prime age for attracting women. The pool of eligible men still on the market (or back on the market) starts to get real slim, and you'll be able to pull quality you wouldn't have been able to in your 20's.In your mid-30's the supply situation inverts and men become the commodity.The old adage, 'half your age minus 7' still holds, so 24+ is where to target. If I were 34 again, I wouldn't aim under 28 though.Mistakes? Stop dressing like you're 24. Lurk the menswear threads here that pop up and dress like a western man. Dressing like a fucking retard like half the people here won't attract a quality woman if that's what you're after.Lastly: ignore the apps. They're full of non-serious women who will talk for months. Learn to talk to women in person. Ask for a number. Be brave.I'm not talking pickup culture cringe, but you gotta exue some measure of testosterone.Also the slender part: lift. Lift heavy. It'll spur additional testosterone production and if you can get your macros sorted and eat clean, you'll gain muscle.I'm pulling for you.
>>18602378>If I were 34 again, I wouldn't aim under 28 though.why is that?
>>18602378>old adage, 'half your age minus 7' still holds,That's retarded and it makes no sense.Under 20 should only date their age group, obviously.If she's 20 i'd say a 5 years difference max.If she's 24 to 27, then i'd say a 10 years difference max.If she's over 27-30, anything goes, as long as you are not the same age than her parents.
>>18602389sorry it was me typing too fast. It should be half your age PLUS 7
>>18602348Being fat, no style, virgin, no career/no money, gourmand fragrances as signature
>>18602407Funkopop/dvd/videogames collector, being nice and not assertive, accepting her tattoos and her mulatto kid from Bubba.
>>18602412SHE WAS JUST FINDING HERSELF
>>18602361you are unc, gen z girls don't care about whether you still look younger, they value chronological age.
>>18602404this feels like a defense attorney trying to dodge a sex offense.
>>18602798Their pussy ain't that great either
>>18602348you should be looking at your hairline and collagen.
>>18602351Agreed. Looksmaxxers are either incels or genuine faggots. Idiots on 4chan are listening to shut ins and gay guys for advice while normal dudes are just doing this shit effortlessly hahaha
>>18602348The wall at men can be pushed back to 60 but that is the point where women just stop looking at you entirely
>>18602389You think you're being objective, but your "I'd say" bullshit is just as arbitrary and stupid as the formula you deride. Your post is based on your feelings and nothing else, which are immaterial to everyone but you.
>>18602798Half of gen z girls have mustaches from roiding during their trans phase
>>18602378>I was fucking a 21 year old for a couple of weeks. 2 weeks was all I could take of her annoying ass. We had nothing in common, and the pussy just wasn't that good.This is exactly the problem.
>>18602348I'm 33 now and had zero game in my 20si now fuck a different girl every Friday night whilst also being married to a 9.5/10 Austrian model who's currently pregnant with my childidk i was fat when i was young
>>18604635in what kind of social circles do you move to get so many women?
>>18602348>hitting the wall physicallybalding>hitting the wall mentallygoing to thailand or philippines
>>18602348There's really no age limit outside of being actually decrepit, like in your 70s. I'm in my 40s dating a 22 year old. Two of her friends are dating guys even older than me.I remember one of my high school girlfriends, probably around 15-16 at the time, telling me that my Dad was "hot". He was in his mid-50s at the time. Until you're in a nursing home and maybe not even then, as long as you're taking care of yourself as you age then you will ALWAYS be able to pull women at least 20-30 years younger than you.
>>18602348Going bald and getting fat are really the only things that happen to men that would decrease their sexual value. But you can still be bald and fat and get laid if you have the clout, resources, frame."Hitting the wall" for men is more like... being a wagecuck who can't take vacations when they want, called in to work weekends, etc. basically not being in control of your own time. My gf of nine years left me basically for that reason; I never had the ambition to start my own business, and she hated that I didn't have the autonomy to just take time off whenever I wanted. Women just want to float around and travel, and if you can't help them do that even in your twilight years when you're supposed to be leveraging your Patriarchal advantage - you've hit the wall.
>>18605428How are you dating someone that young?Are you rich? Good looking? What could they possibly see in a person as old as you over some young Chad. I'm in my mid 30s and get zero pussy btw, if I get older it will probably get worse. Women just don't like me at face value at all, even though I'm 5'9 and ripped, ugly face.
>>18605677not that guy, but I'm 34 and I work as a substitute teachers and other teachers tease me about students falling for me. I'm a skinny asian guy who looks kinda like picrel. The problem are women that I aim for 25+. They hate the boyish look, they want you big, bearded and masculine looking. Like military contract operator or some shit.
>>18605677NTA either but certainly being good looking, fit, tall and white puts you in a top tier category irrespective of age.You also seem to be mistaking men's preferences in women for women's preferences in men. Women need to be younger to be fertile but men need to be older to provide security, that's why women don't want little boys, i.e. zoomers. Women have always been attracted to older men for this reason and will always continue to be.
>>18602358>>18602361You're asking a fat basement dweller LARPing as a rich tall guy legitimate questions? LMAO, you niggers are hopeless.
>>18605859I hate that while my face is kinda full instead of gaunt, and I don't have wrinkles I have those little sunken spots around my mouth and cheeks that just scream "you're going on 40 m8"
>>18602351why are you on this board? do you even own clothes?
>>18606237How about you post your fit and let us see how big of a nigger you are?
Hair, skin and weight will control the wall if you are talking about young girls.As long as you dont fall for psyops like 20yo are still children or muh age/2 -7, in theory you can get even 16yo girls after your 40s. 50s... dont bother.The point is that young girl have higher emphasis on feelings, looks and less masculine guys.So if you 40 but still looks kinda young, have hair, low bf and also is kinda immature for your age you can still hit young girls, but depending on your personality, you may find them annyoing af and not worth it. If all you like to talk about is politics, finance, stocks, going to high end restaurants, smoking cigars and driking fine wine... like the typical boomer, dont even bother cashing young girls.Now if you still immature at 40, you enjoy cheap things, going to concerts, smoking pot and you can talk about labubu and genuinely laugh about silly jokes and pointless discussions about jhope and jimmin, the go for it.Im not using immature here as an insult but difference in personality. If you feel like the typical old guy, it is better to chase girls you age, even though younger girls may look better on paper. Even if you pull one, you will end frustrated.
>>18606696I have this problem at 34, some young girls are crushin on me (I work as a substitute teacher) , but I can't bed the 40yo arthoe I like.
>>18606638I'm 6'9 tall, have a 9" long dick, my wife is a supermodel and I donate 2 million dollars to charity from my spare change at my cushy CEO job. Trust me.
>>18604329Yeah, this is the truth. It's just another form of grooming at this stage
>>18602371>milleageNot in countries with the metric system they don't.
>>18605428Based. Thanks for the hope anon.
>>18606696Literally me
>>18605724Unc, at 34 you should stop hitting on women, even if you look young. Your cute boy privilege has passed and it will look out of character ie creepy.
>>18602348>do they imagine we all get bald and fat?Not being bald and fat will massively warp the average person's perception of your age. If you actually take care of yourself as you age rather than waiting until you're getting old to start exercising and eating well, then you get another bonus.Most people just give up in their late twenties and for those who don't, the difference is MASSIVE. I'm in my early 40s and my wife is 13 years younger than me, in her late twenties. She recently started a new job and she told me that most of her coworkers assumed she was around the same age as another recent hire, a guy who was 21. Many of our friends have told us that when they first met us, they thought we were around the same age.Now, she and I do both have very good genetics and take care of ourselves but all that aside, I'm a fit attractive guy who dresses well. If you put me next to a bunch of other average guys my age, fat and balding and dressed like slobs, it's impossible to not look younger in comparison. As for the "wall in your 30s", I started dating my wife when I was 33 and she was 20 so no, I wouldn't worry about it.>>18606696>kinda immature for your ageThis also helps a lot.
>>1860235130yo?They can get 18yo, my man.
>>18610981If you're put together then you can still get them at 40. Zoomer "men" are so incredibly unattractive at all levels that it's never been easier to pick up young women as an older man.
>>18602361>asianLol, just give up.
