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>>18609581
I have one. People ask about it, and I always say "It's probably fake. I won it in a poker game from a scumbag senior officer, and I wear it because it reminds of of getting a win on that asshole." I feel like that's a better story than "I definitely paid and didn't take out on credit this $10k watch, which you and I know my paygrade can't afford."

If you can buy and look like you can buy the real thing get it, otherwise don't.
Also price in service your watch will likely need sooner or later chinks can leave a mess in the movement.

>>18609829
>servicing a $600 throw away counterfeit watch
Lad

>>18609581
I don’t mess with rep watches, they may look 1:1 on the outside but they consistently fail after 6 months.

I say there are plenty of fine 600 dollar watches if you want a 600 dollar watch. And I would also say if you have the money then a 10k Rolex is worth the money, however I would advise buying vintage instead of new, because I they provide 95% of what new provides but at 30% of the price. The only thing you lose really is lume and waterproofing.

>>18609581
Rep watches are for a display of fake wealth.

Ask yourself in what situation would you EVER benefit from looking rich while in reality being broke.

Wearing a 50K looking watch while driving a KIA Soul?
Dating a bitch who want you to pay for everything and buy her a trip?
Wearing a fake Rolex while asking your boss for a raise? While asking for a tip as an Uber? While being a cashier?

>>18609880
>I don’t mess with rep watches, they may look 1:1 on the outside but they consistently fail after 6 months.
this 100%

The only exception would be quartz watches, which will be mostly Cartier in the rep world (i which they made rep quartz F.P. Journe but they don't).

>>18609859
I don't believe in $600 things meant to be thrown away. I'd rather have a couple nice quartzes.

>>18609880
>>18609978
Why not just get a replica that has a NH35 movement or something similar?
>will work for a long time
>the movement is cheap and can be easily swapped when needed
You are buying a fake Rolex to impress the normies, let's be real here. Normies don't know shit about watches, and it will be good enough for them.
You will never fool a watchmaker or an expert, no matter what kind of replica you get.

>>18609592
holy larp

>You care about watches and have an interest/passion for them
Don't buy it, can't cope enough to ignore that you're wearing a fake piece
>You don't care about watches but care what others think of you
Do it, most people don't even know how to spot a fake so you can even larp as it being real.

>>18610064
Well, I did win a watch from a poker game against a senior. It just wasn't a fake rolex. It's not a larp, by the way. It's a lie. That's the best way to lie, to tell mostly the truth.

>>18610048
Normies think that a Rolex costs twice the price of an Apple watch.
They don't think that entry level Rolexes costs 20x Apple watches.

So you are not really impressing them.

Super clones can be ok though personally I'd just buy second hand or ex display don't know if Rolex does ex display but some Jewelers that sell high end watches do. Another option just buy a homage or similar watch that's not a 1:1 knock off eg San Martin etc.
Unpopular opinion but I really do not like Rolex's particularly the new ones, overpriced, ugly and the people that brag about them are worse than entry level muscle car braggers.

>>18610077
Maybe 1 in 10 normies actually know how much is costs.
1 in 1000 if not less is able to tell the fake from the original, and only upon inspecting it personally.
This seems fine to me.
Also your replica does cost twice the price of an Apple watch funnily enough. The normies got it right.

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I wear a sub daily and have a few other rolexes, and to be honest if I see someone else wearing a rolex I just assume it's real. It's like someone else in this thread said, what good is it to wear a clone if your lifestyle or living situation can't match up. If I was poor I would buy myself a nice Timex and call it a day.

I really don't have an issue with anyone wearing clones though because I really don't care, enjoy yourselves.

>>18609976
you buy them if you want to scam people. jeet coded

>>18610207
The only reason to worry about that is if you think you'll be mistaken for a jeet. I am at no risk of that.

>>18609581
putting on a fake watch in the morning is a daily humiliation ritual. anyone who wears one is spiritually broken.

>>18610361
You fell for the programming, dipshit.

>>18610361
This, even the lowest of the low Casio wearer can walk more proudly than a guy with a chinesium knockoff lol

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Get one while they're cheap from a good factory, its worth the amount of copium de-gassing you get from the clowns that think being on a wait list to spend $10K makes you rich.

>>18610035
>I'd rather have a couple nice quartzes
This, my daily is a casio liw-m700d-1ajf
1000% worth it

>>18610209
no, only a jeet or a spiritual jeet would wear a counterfeit watch. What is the purpose of a counterfeit watch? To scam people, to give them a false impression. It's Do-Not-Redeem-Core.

>>18610372
why do you want to wear a fake watch? You want the brand. You are accusing someone of calling you out for wanting to display branding as 'falling for the programming'. It's you who has fallen for the programing, to the extent you want to wear a counterfeit watch so that people will see you own BRAND X. Are you really this broken?

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You should sell fake Rolex

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If you buy a cheaper watch the Rolex cuckolds will just shit on you later for not owning a Rolex - they just want to slot you into the "entry levels" of the watch market. A super clone really fucks them up because A: it invalidates the cost of their watch, and B: They can't even tell the difference.

I ~kinda~ get it when someone buys fake sneakers, because at the end of the day they’re plastic things from China anyway. Even though the fakes are probably still less comfortable and wear out faster. Or when someone buys an ‘inspired by…’ watch because they’re more of a fast-fashion type. But a blatantly counterfeit watch with the brand name on it and all - that’s just humiliating for the wearer.

>>18610404
>still afraid of being compared to an Indian for buying something.
Kek. Nobody is going to think of you as Indian, unless you somehow identify with them already.

>>18610407
>why do you want to wear a fake watch?
Why not? It's pretty, functional, and it works just like the real thing. Why shouldn't I get a discount for no penalty?
>You are accusing someone of calling you out for wanting to display branding
You can't read the branding on a watch. You're just mad that you paid $10k on credit for a watch that nobody but you notices, and if nobody but you notices, why pay $10k in the first place?

>>18610419
>A: it invalidates the cost of their watch, and B: They can't even tell the difference.
This is the real source of butthurt.

>>18610425
Imagine feeling shame because you paid less for the same thing.

>>18610446
>Imagine feeling shame because you paid less for the same thing.
It’s like being massively overweight and then using AI to make yourself look normal in photos. It’s not a light bit of trickery, like buying a vintage watch or getting slightly in shape with an app. It has nothing to do with who you actually are, and as soon as someone looks behind the curtain, they’ll see that you’re not a normal weight or that you’re not a wealthy guy with the lifestyle to match. You’re living a lie.

>>18610183
based

>>18610504
>you’re not a wealthy guy with the lifestyle to match

This is how people that make payments to jewelry stores really think.

wearing a fake watch is a poor reflection of your character.
if you think it’s cool, you’re probably morally bankrupt

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I can't relate to wearing a replica when I can afford the real thing

>>18610547
>model so old they don't even make fakes of it
$1500 at the pawn shop with enough left for a TV dinner!

>>18610504
>It’s like being massively overweight and then using AI to make yourself look normal
No, it's more like using steroids and ozempic to achieve what people take effort and pain to achieve. It's like using plastic surgery to look prettier, and it's like buying fake tits for your flat wife. It's all real, just also a lie.
>It has nothing to do with who you actually are
Correct, because it's a watch and not a personality, and if I get the same watch or 99% the same watch for 1/10th the money, then that's exactly what I'm going to do.
>and as soon as someone looks behind the curtain
Literally nobody cares about your watch. That's my point. Nobody is going to know or care, so why hold yourself back?
>You’re living a lie
So are the people financing a Rolex when they could have a fake for less. My lie is just cheaper.

>>18610547
>oysterdate
Gr8 b8, m8 i r8 8/8.

>>18610536
>being a moralfag
>being a moralfag on 4chan
>being a moralfag on 4chan advocating for overspending on a trinket as if it reflected an inner part of you
>being this much of a faggot
kek

reminder that the richest poster on this board wears plastic Casio F91W

>>18610590
F91W is mega based, but it looks too tiny on my wrist.
Something like a simple g shock square works better in this situation.

>>18609581
Honestly; why not.
Some reps are shockingly accurate. Down to the movement. It’s nowhere near as refined as the original movement but it‘s fundamentally the same and can be regulated to chronometer standards.
You’ll have to find a guy who works on these sooner or later though. Lots of watchmakers will turn you down.
Basically you’re getting 85% of the real thing at not even 10% of the cost. No brainer.

People who assign some sort of sentimental value to a watch they bought themselves are highly cringe anyway, so all the arguments that the real thing makes you feel different are nothing more than brainwashed shit.
You wear a watch like that for other people. Not for yourself. Doesn’t matter if it’s the real thing or not. Stop fucking deluding yourself.

>>18609581
you'll still get beat and robbed by some hoodrat.

>>18610444
Oh I get it, you are unintelligent, that's why the jeet thing is taking up so much mindspace with you. You see, intelligent people can think abstractly and the use of colourful language does not bog their thinking down. If I had used the word 'gypsy' instead of jeet would this have aided you in your comprehension?

As for your other points, it's hard for me to show you the shore when you are so far out to sea. You obviously want to be associated with the class of people who can afford a rolex, not that its a flex to people who can afford one. So go ahead. Buy your fake rolex, and get me my fries. Your life will improve, for sure.

>>18610838
NTA, but I think you're heavily projecting. He's right. Nobody cares about your watch, and if that's the case, why not pay less for the same thing? You sound like an overly self-conscious dork.
> and get me my fries.
Nice larp.

>>18610748
yeah, but when you'll be on the sidewalk bleeding your guts out, you'll think "haha, it's only a $500 watch! got them nogs! ha ha! oh oh!"

I wonder if there are watches that can't be copied by chinks?
One is definitely springdrive Grand Seiko/credor, because you can't just put random mechanical/quartz movement in it with it looking anything like original and lack of demand for it.
Another one is high complications like perpetual calendars, they do get copied but the complication is usually functioning with pushers for function like months and years so it's mostly smoke and mirrors also they are thick as a brick, and minute repeaters seagull produces some but they definitely don't want to put them in reps as they sell it themselves for 20k
Unique case shapes? Exotic materials? I think chinks can produce anything including Royal Oak cases and bracelets, ceramics or carbon fiber cases if there is demand for them.
Precious metals? Some plate tungsten with precious metals or make a thick plating like vintage watches that got wrapped in gold.
I think only obscure or really unique watches are safe from them.

>>18610944
They just don't bother with some brands like Girard Perregaux or F.P. Journe, because the audience of replica watches are low class and don't know anything beyond Rolex and like 5 other brands.
So the chinese know that those brands would not sell.

He just wants the clock unc - $20K isn't a lot of money, its just a lot of money for a watch thats made of 60% Chinese parts and sold by jews for a 1000% markup.

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>>18610948
Its because they don't have the CAD files to make them since those brands don't manufacture their watches in China - like Rolex.

>>18610953
No, there's just no market for those brands in the poorfag audience.

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>>18610955
Das rite

>>18610951
No, anon. You see, if that poorfag doesn't spend $20k on this watch and gets something that looks exactly the same, people might suspect that me, a poorfag in debt to the Swiss Jew, has not spent $20k, which was the whole point of buying the watch. Stop ruining my conspicuous consumption by having things like mine for a twentieth of the price!

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>>18610965

fake on the outside fake on the inside

I had one. No one gave a shit or asked about it. It broke quickly. If you buy one use cypto so you'll get a discount, also it may get seized in customs.

>>18610976
How much did you pay for it?
What movement did it have?

>>18610976
now buy a plastic casio like a158 and see what happens

>>18610838
>If I had used the word 'gypsy' instead of jeet would this have aided you in your comprehension?
You're calling me unintelligent, but you don't understand that the point is that a product can't make people perceive you as something you are not? I think the jeet thing is taking up your mind space if anything. You keep bringing it up.
>You obviously want to be associated with the class of people
No, that's what you want, which is why you overpay for trinkets. I see them as what they are and have them however I can get them. My life is not based around being perceived by others. I'm not that worried about how people look at me because I know I'm great.
>Buy your fake rolex, and get me my fries. Your life will improve, for sure.
Kek, imagine being this butthurt about someone not falling for the same tricks you did. Couldn't be me, breh.

>>18610976
>No one gave a shit or asked about it.
Exactly.
>It broke quickly
That sucks. Wear it anyway.

>>18610847
$600 is a lot of money to pay for something that nobody cares about, especially a fake version of something nobody cares about
>Why not pay less for the same thing?
Because it isn't the same thing. It is in your mind because you desperately need this cope to work, but it just isn't.
It's pathetic anon. You are pathetic, your mindset is pathetic.

The only brand I'd ever buy a rep of is a Panerai, because they are so good at this point as to be indistinguishable, and I don't like panerais enough to ever want to own a gen. Really though, there are so many phenomenal watches around the 600 dollar mark plus or minus a couple of hundred bucks that a rep is a waste of money on longevity alone. If you want to impress people that don't really know watches, get a Seitona and you can wear it with dignity and self-respect.

>>18610847
>nobody cares about a watch
>which is why im getting a fake Rolex
>and not a fake timex
Do you people even think before you vomit your words on the page?

>>18610951
He obviously wants the cache of the brand, but doesn't want to pay for the cache of the brand. Cope all you want. If he just wanted a certified movement he'd get a mido. Seethe dilate etc

>>18610962
You've nailed why you come off as a clown, your ironic detachment notwithstanding. Proud of you.

>>18611164
>point is that a product can't make people perceive you as something you are not?
This is obviously false. If it was true, you wouldn't care enough to buy a counterfeit watch.
>My life is not based around being perceived by others
Says the guy who wants to buy a counterfeit watch. Comes off as compelling, for sure.
The fries line really pissed you off. Wonder why.

>>18611206
>$600 is a lot of money to pay for something that nobody cares about
No, it isn't. Most things I buy, nobody cares about, and they're far more expensive. I think I've spent more on scale model trains, and I'm literally the only one that gets to see them.
>Because it isn't the same thing.
Of course it is. The only difference is the price tag and details that you need a microscope to see.

>>18611219
>which is why im getting a fake Rolex
Yes, because I want a rolex, and the rep is cheaper.
>and not a fake timex
I can afford a real timex, but I would pay for a rep just for the novelty.
>Do you people even think before you vomit your words on the page?
Again, projection.

>>18611222
>I just want the watch.
>He just wants the watch
>"Nooo, he wants to be like me!"
Kek

>>18611226
>This is obviously false. If it was true, you wouldn't care enough to buy a counterfeit watch.
No, it's not obviously false, and you keep ignoring that someone might want a trinket for its own sake rather than what it might represent to a crowd of losers like you.
>Says the guy who wants to buy a counterfeit watch.
Yeah, because it's cheaper. How do you not get this yet?

>>18610979
$222 in crypto. I don't know the movement, the factory was OMF.
>>18611151
Some girl said my casio calculator watch was cute.
>>18611166
It was fun to wear because of the novelty. It was an Omega Seamaster rep.

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>>18611551
>Omega Seamaster rep
Oh it's a somewhat common problem, I think the rotor falls off from the decorated part of movement, if you still have it then you could transplant hands and dial to a A2824 that is used as a base for the decorated movement. And probably a closed caseback instead of exhibition one that came with the watch.
You would need the clone movement (A2824) instead of real one as chinks changed the seconds pinion and so minute hand and seconds hands would touch on swiss movement

>>18609976
Holly fuck your insecure.

Your acting like you don't care what people think yet your entire thread is begging for attention from strangers.

Oh no a KIA, Nigger there's millionaires driving around in 30 year old cars.

>>18610446
>it invalidates the cost of their watch
This.

It's no surprise to me why so many boomers
who bought Rolex's get butt hurt. They see
a brand name and assume some 90 year
old Swiss artisan must have assembled it.
When you explain its a production line they
loose their shit in 100% of my experiences.
Technologically and Mechanically most
modern Swiss watches having nothing on
Japanese watches that can be sold cheaper
because the Japanese make more units.

I had a Rolex ended up hating it and sold it.
Got a Tag consider it Meh.
Prefer interesting looking watches given they
now are secondary as a time piece given you
can just take out your phone or check your
cars clock.

>>18610589
These people are wild.
I bet several of these guys are working for AD's or are grey market dealers.

No sane person would be this butthurt.

>>18611223
Nope your the one coming off a clown you boomer bitch boy.

Trinkey shiny, watch the keys jangle little boomer.

>>18610965
35?

>>18609592
>I lie to everyone
they know bro

I have a fake Cartier Tank that has been great so far. Imagine spending €3800 on a simple quartz watch.

>>18611849
It's not my thread, you braindead faggot.
You don't get shit, learn how to read a thread newfag.

Counterfeits don't exist, because (((intellectual property))) is nonsense in the first place. Why do we allow rent-seeking by corporations over things made decades ago? Jews would have patented fire and copyrighted the Bible if they had the chance.

>>18611938
rep watches =/= cope watches

What you're talking about is cope watches. There's no problem with using the sub design, that's what cope watches do (ie san martin).

The problem is using the brand name and logo. When you buy a brand, you know what quality to expect (wether it's good or bad), if others uses it then you destroy the preception of the brand.

>>18610387
that pic, damn

>>18611420
> Yes, because I want a rolex, and the rep is cheaper.
Then you don’t want a Rolex, you want something that looks like a Rolex. Which is fine, idgaf, but you don’t actually want a Rolex.

>>18611551
You can get a used real Omega seamaster for the price of a new rep. Why don’t you guys use the secondary market ever?

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It’s so nice to own the real thing.

>>18612418
I see you cropped out the big cancer mole

>>18612418
Post it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>18612424
>>18612427
Don’t mind if I do

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't reps have piss poor durability? I heard they fall apart after 6 months

>>18609581
LOLEX LOLEX LOLEX LOLEX LOLEX LOLEX LOLEX LOLEX LOLEX

Are they never tired of screaming like fucking apes?

>>18612539
Yes, that’s why it’s 10x better to buy an honest watch at the same price point, or at least a clomage that puts its own brand name on it. When you put someone else’s branding on your watch then you have no incentive to deliver something that works after purchase.

Also another problem with reps is that they’re usually heavy as well, something you can’t see in pictures. That’s because they’re usually heavy so no finishing on the in aid of the watch, and use cheap materials

>>18609581
it's irrelevant whether you're stretching or buying a rep. people either don't care or will be able to tell.

>>18611875
It tells you the week number of the year. Around the end of August. Resets at 52

>>18611164
>i want to buy a fake rolex
>My life is not based around being perceived by others.
delusion. if you were interested in the watch for reasons other than status a rep would never be on the table.

>>18612785
I don't understand this line of reasoning. Either:
1. The watch has some intrinsic value
2. It does not, and the only benefit is social perception.
If 1 is true, then it makes perfect sense to buy a rep, since they are clone movements.
If 2 is true, then it only makes sense to buy the rep if you intend to impress normalfags with a display of wealth, but this is also the only argument for buying gen if you include other nerds.
In either case, the accusation of buying reps for status falls flat because it's the admission that gen owners also buy for status and simply do not want people to think their real watch is a fake.

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This is literally just bots shilling false talking points.

>>18612809
Your argument is incorrect because the movements, and the materials and build and finishing, are not clones. A genuine watch is built well. A replica watch is built poorly. They do not function the same.
A genuine watch is purchased because it’s a great watch. A replica watch is bought to fool other people into thinking you have bought a great watch.

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>>18612915
Bot

>>18612918
>Japan protects Seiko
Very surprising lol

>>18612918
What part of my reply are you responding to?

>>18612957
yes

>>18612951
What watch would fall under this copyright for seiko?
There is obviously casioak but that's casio.

>>18612915
>A replica watch is built poorly
This hasn't been true in a long time, lol. Is this the final cope?
>A genuine watch is purchased because it’s a great watch.
So, if a clone was 1:1 in terms of functionality, you would buy that instead, then right?

>>18612975
Seikoaks

>>18613045
That's not made by Seiko, though.

>>18613045
>Seikoaks
>Take replica Royal Oak
>Ask factory to not make engravings
>put nh 35 in it
>put Seiko name on the dial to seem legit
>That will be 400 euros for basic models
Sasuga grifters.

>>18613058
Oops, didn’t realize they weren’t

>>18613087
Don’t (You) me

>>18613087
>replica Royal Oak
Honestly, this is another one that the regular guy has to get as a rep, because even homage watches don't copy the design exactly, which is the whole draw of the watch, so you're stuck with grifter faggots or an actual rep.

>>18613099
But you can have an exact clone for $600.

>>18613116
I'm sorry, but I don't see how spending $20k for the same thing makes you alpha. Are you really that easy to fool?

>>18613117
I think you're just mad that people might suspect yours is fake because you can't easily afford the thing on your wrist. Sorry you had to save up so you could still be suspected of what I am guilty of. I'm not going to stop, kek.

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Sigmas wear double fakes to throw off the "Alphas" and "Omegas" aka betas

>>18613128
You can't detach the watch from being a status symbol - they're meant to cost around $1200 - but they can sell them for $15K to wagies for good behavior

>>18613132
I don't want to look rich I want to buy a Rolex 5513 original retail $150.00; adjust for inflation $1200 - $1500; not made in China and washed through Switzerland.

(you) want to look rich by spending used car money on a clock.

>>18613140
Cool I own a gold Tudor, broke ass faggot.

>>18613143
Honestly Tudors aren't that bad. They're mostly Rolex cases and bracelets, just using 3rd party movements instead of the in-house stuff. Because of that they are easier to repair too.

>>18613027
>So, if a clone was 1:1 in terms of functionality, you would buy that instead, then right?
If that hypothetical were true (big if) then absolutely yes. FYI though, it's completely not true. But I wish it were! Rolex movements are amazing and I wish there were a 3rd party offering of them, because they're great and I would love to put them in my own mod watch.

I don't know bros, I really like homage watches that display their own logo.
I am proud of paying much less for the same thing.
My family and friends would think I am a retard for buying a Rolex, and rightfully so since I don't have much money to waste and throw around.
Therefore, a fake Rolex would do me no favours.

>>18613128
Bro, it's obvious you're the one interested in status. You're just mad because people might think you're one of those guys. Honestly might buy a fake now just for that reason.

>>18613131
>buy actual rolex
>buy fake
>go around telling everyone the real one is fake
>go up to wagies that saved for years or bought on credit and tell them that you know theirs is fake because it's the same as yours
>watch them visibly freak out over this fact
>show them proof of purchase of the fake

I had one, a clean factory sub. It looked and felt great, but I gave it away eventually. I have a couple of watches I accumulated over my life, realised I just want to wear those and let them be my watches, I’m done. Wearing a fake watch feels inauthentic, and having too much of anything runs the risk of complicating your feelings about that thing. I don’t want to be the guy with a glass box of rotating watches like a faggot, I have the watch my woman bought me, the watch I bought when I got my first big job and my wedding watch. Any more is just indulgence, let alone fake watches

>>18609581
If you like the look just buy an homage or something like that. Even cheaper than buying a fake. For $600 you can find a lot of actually good watches with a pedigree. These repros are only worth it for people who actually want to fake it until they make it.

>>18613356
The homage watches never clone the movements. It's not the same thing.

>>18612843
That's kind of neat. I usually don't dig those red and blue diver bezels, but on a square watch against a black dial it really works. Probably still too big for my taste, but I do like the design of that. Why do you call it the 'tard master' though?

>>18612418
You're sad.

>>18613358
Sure but people won't watch the movement when you're wearing the watch. And if you're a watch enthusiast you're not going to spend your hard earned money on an "illegal" and unsellable repro.

>>18610504
>a wealthy guy with the lifestyle to match
What if you just like the way it looks but don't want to overpay by 500% to offset their marketing costs. A rolex should be ~$2k when adjusted for inflation based on their 70s pricing. You're paying ~$8000 of the $10,000 to pay for their marketing campaigns.

Of course most people here just buy a used entry level rolex like an explorer 1 for ~$5k and don't eat the 40-50% immediate depreciation that the normal rolexes take. Same as if somebody were to want a car like a jaguar or merc and just bought it for $35k after the first two years of depreciation destroyed the $80-90k sticker price.

>>18613404
This. Leave the billion dollar corporations alone. Intellectual property laws have been around since the 1600s and GOD respects them so why can't you. Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

>I DONT CARE ABOUT BRANDS
>SO IM BUYING A COUNTERFIET WATCH
>SO PEOPLE WILL SEE IM WEARING A PARTICULAR BRAND
At this point I don't even care the retard wants to buy a fake, the mental gymnastics he's doing to justify wearing the fake is amusing.

>>18613404
If you spent half the time working as you do arguing about how great it is to be a copefag, you could afford a genuine watch.

>>18613423
I agree. Buying authentic trademarked logos makes you authentic and being an indentured mercenary for the state makes you even more authentic.

>>18613439
Oh no, I was just going to start discussing Walker Benjamin's theories with you

remember if you spend more than $200 on a watch or get it from china something's wrong with you

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>>18613454
>casios made in china now

>>18613461
Authenticity is dead. I'm sorry bro. It probably died around 1981 at the same time country music died. Strangely enough that is also when rolex ceased to be authentic and began their luxury advertising campaign to keep afloat because quartz destroyed their sports/tool watch heritage. When it comes to country music dying, I blame George Strait. Zogbots don't join the military to be authentic, they join it for the guaranteed disability checks and pension, the GI bill free education, the free healthcare, and the ability to check a box on a job application for preferential hiring. "Veterans" are just glorified welfare queens and the deification of them is for fools. I'd say vietnam and the establishment of the petrodollar were the inciting incidents. Once the money became fake, everything did. Other contributing factor is definately Edward Bernays and John B Watson inventing advertising and mass persuasion. If OP wants to say fuck paying for a trinket marketing scheme to own a trinket, that's his prerogative. There is nothing authentic about buying a "real" one as some kind of status badge at a country club in the first place. It would be just acting on advertising memetics.

>>18613485
Tldr; everything is fake and gay

>>18613500
The least fake and gay watch you could wear would be an apple watch. If we're talking something ubiquitous, contemporary, and normalcow approved. Mechanical watches are inherently le born in the wrong era larping in the first place.

>>18613505
>The least fake and gay watch you could wear would be an apple watch
99% of watches I see people wear are smart watches, mostly apple watches. Very rarely I see someone wear a normal watch. I saw a couple of Casios on young people and saw a young guy with a Rolex (probably fake).

>>18613508
Well they're functionally superior. Mechanical watches are just jewelry, trinkets. They're kind of neato I guess if you have a display caseback but basically as useful as collecting a bunch of belt buckles.

>>18613472
>Once the money became fake, everything did.
That's what I always say myself. Fuck FIAT money. That being said, a good tool is still a good tool no matter what is written on it. Things can still have intrinsic value, that's why I can appreciate both renowned brands and the literally who micro or Chinese brands.

>>18613508
I don't see the same thing here in France. A lot of people still wear normal watches, except for sports where smart watches now clearly dominate.

>>18612488
You should remove that mole

>>18613539
Not the heckin illegal bro you wouldn't download a car

>>18613397
>don't eat the 40-50% immediate depreciation that the normal rolexes take
90% of Rolex models are worth more once you leave the store
you can buy a GMT master for 10k and flip it for 20k on the same day

>>18613378
>people won't watch the movement
Again, I'm not buying it for them. I'm buying it for me.
>And if you're a watch enthusiast you're not going to spend your hard earned money on an "illegal" and unsellable repro.
I'm not planning to sell it. I'm buying it to keep it.
Sorry, am I the autist? I just don't understand why I would buy the real thing when a clone will do. Now, if you're offended about the branding, then point me to a clone movement and aesthetic that simply deletes the branding. I would still buy that. However that doesn't exist, so this really is just brand protectionism.

>>18613545
But what if you just want the watch? Why should it cost $10k for a mass-produced object that is so easy to replicate the Chinese do it for a tenth of the cost?

>>18613543
>moralfagging on 4chan
Bro, you really are cucked as fuck.

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>>18613535
>because... I just don't want to

Yes.

>>18613535
>then why don't you just
Because I want what I want, and I can get it for less. Why should I be beholden to your sense watchfag honor?
>but people will know it's fake
Cool. It fooled me, so that's all it takes for it to be worth it.

>>18613397
> Of course most people here just buy a used entry level rolex like an explorer 1 for ~$5k and don't eat the 40-50% immediate depreciation that the normal rolexes take. Same as if somebody were to want a car like a jaguar or merc and just bought it for $35k after the first two years of depreciation destroyed the $80-90k sticker price.
Bingo, this is the key to getting a Rolex or any other high quality item at a good price. When something is truly made well, then people are able to recoup a lot of their costs by selling it, and the buys can save a lot of money.

>>18613555
>>18613557
>>18613558
Wagie is really butthurt that people will suspect his real waste of money might actually be a clone, kek. Not only am I going to keep buying fakes. If I see a fag with a rolex on, I'm going to tell other people that I know it's fake, even if I know otherwise, just because it makes you faggots seethe.

>>18613546
>I'm not planning to sell it. I'm buying it to keep it.
That's a cool way to spend $500 then. But I really wonder what the reliability on these watches is really like. I can't care less about Rolex as a brand, the submariner and other classics leave me completely cold, but I wouldn't want to spend a substantial amount of money on fakes that aren't guaranteed to work as intended. Do they even have some kind of warranty?

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>>18613558
Why so defensive little guy?

>>18613563
Fakes are the wild west, man. Most of them do meet some kind of standard, and the movements keep time, though not to the exact extent because the springs aren't exactly to par with a gen. Honestly, though, that's a cool way to learn the mechanisms and get into the whole building and modding hobby. After all, it's not like you're fucking up a real daytona or some shit. Fakes are their own hobby, but it pisses off real owners for some reason, and I suspect it's because they had to stretch for their gens, and don't want people to even suspect it might be a fake. My next one is a royal oak, though I do own a seikoak that I got as a kit.

>>18613567
>I own a seiko, but really want to defend a company for some reason.
Kek. Isn't that even more pathetic? It's almost like you're an aspirational wagie, which is way worse.

>>18613566
Why is your case upside down?

>>18613569
>Honestly, though, that's a cool way to learn the mechanisms and get into the whole building and modding hobby.
That would be a very valid argument, if there were obvious differences between the real and the fake ones. The problem is that the main motive behind the creation of these repros watches is obviously fooling potential buyers.

>>18613566
the fuck is this horror??

>>18613545
You mean after your initial purchase of like 10 basic rolexes and you're allowed to purchase one? And then they ban you after that?

>>18613577
>all it does it put money in the pocket of counterfeiters
I mean, I really like some of their work. Based.
>you are in the same exact camp as men who wear lifts because they are insecure about their height.
Nah. That would hurt my feet. I would, however walk around on pogo sticks if I could because of the novelty.

>>18613589
Idk it's too blurry to tell but it's a casio I think

>>18613580
No, I was talking about repair and modification. You can actually make clones work just as well as the real thing if you're willing to do the work. Plenty of people do this.

>>18613543
I would like to do illegal things because breaking copyright laws is cool. I also just pirate everything I can.

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>When you get the call

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>Wearing reps to get the street cred of the real thing
gay and lame
>Wearing reps to steal because stealing is cool
based

It's a mindset thing, if your intentions are to be a troublemaker its fine

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>>18613625
>stealing grandpas rolex

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>>18613636
unfathomably based

>steal grandpas rolex
>replace it with a rep
>get gifted the rolex in the will

>>18613646
Time is money grandpa

>>18613640
It is very funny to have an "illegal" watch like it's drugs or something just because a logo is forbidden. Fuck that gay shit

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>Buy rep watch
>go to local highschool
>trade rep watch for drugs
>profit
i think that guy is on to something

>Not spending absurd amount of money on stainless steel toys is the same as stolen valor
My fucking sides, is this what you truly believe?

>>18613584
>honor
I take what I want when I want. Moral law is an invention of mankind for the disenfranchisement of the powerful in favor of the weak

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>>18613686
Hell yeah, brother. Look at me, I dress like an operator on the weekends just to play games.
>People will literally be offended by this.

>>18613696
>trying to fish for clout
>mfw the retards still can't get clout and social perception out of their mind because that's literally why they spent $20k on a mass-produced object for
Kek.

>>18613688
My man pays for streaming

>>18613714
Bruh, I bet he pays extra for high bitrate on youtube videos.

>>18613705
I think it's a social media sickness. Kind of like people who take vacations to post pictures for the social value but aren't present, people will buy objects based on the social value and not the love of the object itself.

>>18613686
A "veteran" stabbed himself in the leg for that purple heart and then got lifetime disability checks for it and then got paid another $10 by some schmuck on ebay. Talk about a gift that keeps on giving

>>18613731
Pretty sure I'm not black, anon. You're just weak, and because of that, you must bear what you must.

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>>18613731
>lowercase protect intellectual property poster

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>>18613745
>mfw a weak untermensch keeps trying to appeal to slave morality to make me spend money on a trinket
No. And I'm going to tell other people to do it too.

>>18613755
No, I like the watch, and I want it. I'm not buying what you want.
>but you can get one that looks the same without the brand
But it doesn't work the same.
>but you could save up
But I don't want to.
>But you could buy used
But I don't want to.
I do what I want, and you can't stop me.

>>18613773
Sorry jews but I will just copy your logo haha

>>18613773
>No, you like people thinking you spent $15,000-$20,000 on a watch.
No, that's you, and that's why you hate good clones, because people might suspect you went for the cheaper option.
>If you actually just wanted a watch to like for the cost
No, I want the fancy one, and I don't want to have to pay $20k, so I did just that. Get over it.
>you would have bought a real $600 homage
I'm not buying what you want to stop from offending you. I'm buying what I want, and what I want is a clone of the fancy watch. Stop crying, weakling.
>LMAO, that is untrue and you are so full of fucking shit
It's true. A Seiko movement or a Miyota is not the same as a 4130. You know that, and are just lying because you're desperate to protect your false status.

>>18613780
>YWABAN
>You Wear a Bad Ass Nautilus
I know, thanks.

I would never buy a replica, at superclone price points I would rather buy a genuine watch of an appropriately priced brand.
However, if someone else buys a replica, I don't have a problem with it SO LONG AS they don't try to sell it as a real one, which I think is the bigger problem.
But if it's just for your own enjoyment I see no problem. Honestly if anyone feels flexed on because you show them a replica then they should feel flexed on in any case.
However as someone who on rare occasion buys or seeks to buy a real one, I would appreciate if you could signal in your listing that it's actually a replica you're trying to sell. When I'm buying high end it's because I'm looking for genuine parts, and I will be able to tell immediately as soon as I receive the watch in hand, so if you try to sell me a fake then you're just creating a bunch of headaches for returns for me.

>>18613785
>retard gen cocksucker is now false-flagging
It's a reasonable ask because he can fuck you harder if you don't. You wouldn't understand this because you willingly open your asshole for companies like Rolex, kek.

SAAAAAAAARS

>>18613801
>gen dicksuck gets caught out and resorts to spamming the same phrase
Low IQ move.

>>18613812
Timmy mad

>>18613812
>so mindfucked he can't react
You're mad, and people will always suspect your watch is a fake.

>>18613785
It's not so much about me not being scammed, because I can't be scammed. As soon as I receive the replica you sold as genuine then I will initiate a refund or chargeback. However we're both going to lose in the end, you're going to get charged chargeback fees at best (maybe jailtime) and I'm going to waste 5 minutes initiating a chargeback and reporting you for fraud. Wouldn't you rather that not happen?

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This is actually more based then spring drive, and exhibition back looks cool with all that brass, and giant electrical components.

>>18613852
Did they put the Bulova Precisionist quartz movement into that thing? Because that's the only thing that I can think of. They should honestly put that into more watches.

>>18613948
You're doing it wrong, richfag. You want a brand name version of a generic thing. Please go and find a white t-shirt for $300 and a Casio MRG. Remember, you have to do the opposite for the formula to work. Also, if you don't shower and smell bad, dress it up with some new age bullshit a-la Gwyneth Paltrow.

>>18613948
Real Casio is already better than watches that cost $50k.
Just buy that, and if you want to lose some money, go gamble it away or something.

>>18613948
>Anyone know where I can get a counterfeit Casio that costs $50,000?
I'll sell you one

>>18613852
pig disgusting

>>18614047
casio is shit
the small ones that you can wear a plastic shit with dog shit bracelet
the gshocks are plastic but BIG and uncomfortable to wear
oceanus is ugly and more expensive than seiko

The real reason to not get a rep is that they are not carbon copies. Guys you are trying to impress will know, because wautchtism. and that will give a bad impression.

>>18614291
The best strategy is to always admit it's a rep.
>Nice rolex.
>Thanks, but it's not.
>Is that real?
>Nope.
The more blatant you are about it, the better. Why worry about fooling people? It's far better to be an honest thief, is it not?

>tranny janny has been busy earning his $0

>>18614359
I'm able to see all the deleted posts. You can't be that proud of them.

>>18613852
>>18613856
I'm wondering this too. If I could buy just the precisionist movement and put it in something else I would love that.

this has been the most entertaining watch thread in years

>>18609581
fake and ghey, just like you if you think they're cool

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>>18614563
You can just go on ebay and buy a lot of movements and repair them/have one or two just work:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/167989824726
One of the problems are hands compatibility, you can't just go on ali and buy any design you like, and every build I saw has original bulova hands which don't really look right with modern cases and dials.
And you probably need 3d printed to actually fit the movement in modern case.
Also while looking around I found another poverty springdrive: Seiko 5S21 produced before springdrive was a thing and mostly have boring dressy designs for cases and hands.
But modern hands fit on it (VX32 hands (1.10/.65/.20)) so you would probably have easier time making a custom watch.
It's also actually perfectly smooth as springdrive as opposed to bulova with 16 ticks per second.

>>18609581
If I think I real watch is overpriced, why would I want people to think I'm wearing it? Where is the win for me?

Reps are why i wear vintage. Nobody's gonna put the effort in to make a fake of a 1950s chronograph

>>18615044
Why do you care what people think. You like the watch, it's to much, you buy it anyway. It's that simple

>>18615682
But you didn't buy it. You bought a replica.

>>18615706
Sorry ma'am but it looks exactly the same

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>>18615576
The real money is buying a vintage rep.

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>>18615975
Based

>>18609581
Do your research, go to forums and look at the NWBIG list - the ones on the list are legit hard to differentiate from the legit ones.

Find one that you want, have desired for a long time/meaningful to you, and get that one.

Most of these come with asian ETA 2824 clones. While you wait for your watch to arrive, go to ebay and find a new or used ETA2824, preferable elabore or top grade.

Once you have both, take them to an independent watchmaker, have the watchmaker swap the movements.

Now you have a reliable, dependable, high quality, and serviceable watch that you can wear for a long time.

If people ask you about your watch, whether it's fake or not., then:

1) you look like a wimp. Work on yourself, dress better, go workout, etc

2) if number 1 isn't applicable to you, then just ignore those people coz they're self appointed watch priests who are really pedantic corporate cocksucking fools

>>18613358
> The homage watches never clone the movements
Neither do the reps

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>>18613545
>>don't eat the 40-50% immediate depreciation that the normal rolexes take
>90% of Rolex models are worth more once you leave the store
>you can buy a GMT master for 10k and flip it for 20k on the same day
Proven wrong by picrel. Gg ez

>>18616235
>Neither do the reps
Reps clone movements all the time. You're just trying to spread FUD.

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>>18616239
+£175 shipping
Just send it without the insurance

>>18616239
thats the ugliest watch

>>18616466
Manlet alert wee woo wee woo wee woo

So what would be a good Rolex rep option right now? I am okay paying up to 1k€ if it's really good.

I've been wearing a gen Omega Planet Ocean for a few years now, was thinking of switching it up a bit. Either a Submariner or Daytona.

>>18616239
are you retarded? those are 20+ year old watches that retailed for half those prices back then

>>18617890
visit r/reptime on the 'dit, read everything and learn, top tier reps cost around $500 from trusted dealers, any more and you're getting ripped off

>>18617899
What they cost in the past means literally nothing. Point is we live in a society

>>18617890
Why is Rolex the be all end all of watches for you people? Don't you think that's a bit generic?

>>18617915
Very interesting.

>>18617925
Well the whole point of buying a rep is that you care what other people think about your watch, and most people don’t know any famous watch brands besides Rolex

>>18617925
They really have only one good looking watch. The rest are either ugly or tacky looking.

>>18618010
You think a Royal Oak looks tacky?

>>18609581
>What're your thoughts on rep watches, should you wear one?
sure
>What should you tell people if they ask about it?
tell people it's an old watch that was badly damaged, but it had sentimental value so you got it restored for cheap by some old asian man. helps if it looks tastefully scuffed and worn out. if someone points out something about it is fake or flawed, say it's probably a reproduction part and that it's like a watch of theseus, that's what makes it special :^)

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Buy this and dont ask

>>18617890
You seriously want to switch from a genuine Omega Planet Ocean to a super close-looking fake Submariner? Sorry, but that sounds like a deeper confidence issue that a €1k fake watch isn’t going to fix.

>>18617915
Thanks!

>>18617925
It's not, but the Sub is kind of iconic and I'd guess the reps are high quality since it is likely the most copied watch ever.

>>18618346
I would not switch because I love my PO to death, but I wear it every single day. I'd like some change you know? But the thing is, these watches are really overpriced for what they are. My genuine stainless steel clasp broke twice on its own and was replaced under warranty by Omega. Also, Rolex specifically have their humiliation ritual that I will never subject myself. Might as well get a 98% copy from Chang.

>>18609859
Who's the dummy now, you don't take them to the Rolex dealer dumbass.

>>18618796
>Also, Rolex specifically have their humiliation ritual

Hence why I ended up buying from a reseller and will probably never buy from them again. Nice watch yes, quality sure, cuing to buy what's only a few % better than most equivalent priced items and still is inferior to the super high end? Not worth it to me.

>>18618796
>Also, Rolex specifically have their humiliation ritual that I will never subject myself. Might as well get a 98% copy from Chang.
This is probably the worst part of rolex, worse than inflating their prices 5x the inflation adjusted value of the watch.

>>18618030
The royal oak is both tacky and ugly

>>18618796
If you would not submit yourself to the humiliation required to buy a Rolex, why would you want others to believe you did by showing them that you're wearing a Rolex?

I find Rolexes to be soulless and uninteresting.

>>18619619
You can easily get one on the gray market, but there it's even more overpriced.

But you are not wrong: only an idiot would buy a gen stainless steel Rolex, so the messaging is bad either way.

I just really think it's a fashionable watch. I could afford it and it would not be out of place, but I feel that you're getting ripped off a bit TOO much and that is peeving me. Honestly, I would very likely freely admit that it's a rep if asked because of that. I own enough other things, so I don't require it to send "status".

>>18619700
Honestly I think the black bay is a better looking watch compared to a sub. The zennith el primeros are much better looking than a daytona as is the speedmaster. The explorer 1 is their only really good looking watch and I would say the murph is just as good looking although different in style. Unless your style is super flashy and you want a yachtmaster or you are a lifted truck type guy who would want an explorer 2 or a homosexual who would like a fluted bezel, they don't have much to offer for looks.

>>18609880
>vintage
how do you know the vintage watch is real? They also build watches out of vintage original parts and new fake ones.

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>>18620377
If you buy on Chrono24 then you can get it certed where an expert inspects the parts. My experience is that reputable dealers will usually be open about what’s original vs what’s aftermarket. Also if you get autistic about particular models (for me it’s Oysterdate Precisions like ref 6694, 6494, and 6664) then you start to understand what is most likely to have been replaced and you can ask them directly very specific questions and either their answers make sense or they don’t

I bought a fake BB58 because I like the look of the BB line but am not interested in spending even Tudor money on a watch. Further, my watches are for me, not others, so I don't give a damn if they think it's real or fake. Only other watchfags would care anyway and I'm not around any so real or fake doesn't matter.

Oh and it ran for a couple years with the cheap Chinese movement, which always made weird noises but kept reasonable time, but finally got to the point it wouldn't run for even 12 hours. Time to get another I guess though my life has changed to where having a watch isn't as useful as it was then since I can bury my nose in a phone more often.

>>18609976
I fly alot and I think the airport staff will treat me better with one.

>>18621529
You're better off just getting status with an airline (and flying in the front of the plane) than hoping someone will notice your watch.

>>18620751
I like the bb58 too. Fuck man, it really sucks that they break so easy, is there really no servicing them?

>>18620751
>>18621554
You could probably just buy another pt5000 and drop it in. Or just buy one with an nh and not worry about it.