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FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions for newfags
https://pastebin.com/vUp2MLXv
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Informative Videos for newfags to Perfume General
https://pastebin.com/GcaXa3mn
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W2C bottles
(USA-Canada)
http://www.fragrancenet.com
http://www.fragrancebuy.ca
http://www.luckyscent.com
https://www.fragrancex.com

Use Google to obtain the maximum discount code at fragrancenet (35%).

(Europe)
http://www.notino.com (see directory at bottom for your country)
https://www.jovoyparis.uk/
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General info
http://perfumesociety.org/discover-perfume/an-introduction/
https://nstperfume.com/2008/11/14/new-to-perfume-and-want-to-learn-more/
https://www.basenotes.net/features/3243-the-top-ten-niche-fragrances-every-beginner-should-sample
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Various perfume communities/review sites/blogs
http://www.fragrantica.com/
http://www.basenotes.net/
http://www.parfumo.net/
http://www.nstperfume.com/
http://www.boisdejasmin.com/
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W2C samples
http://www.luckyscent.com/
http://www.theperfumedcourt.com/
https://www.fragrantworldshop.com/
http://www.surrendertochance.com/
http://www.perfumista.co.uk/
http://www.ausliebezumduft.de/fragrances.html
https://www.jovoyparis.uk/
https://www.lessenteurs.com/
https://bloomperfume.co.uk/
https://lulua.pl/en/
https://moodscentbar.com/en/
https://ecuacionnatural.com/
https://essenza-nobile.de/
https://www.lesecretdumarais.com/en/
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On DIY perfumes
http://www.perfumersapprentice.com/
https://pellwall.com/
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Affordable nice scents
https://pastebin.com/ZJCnAZF9
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Fragrance Groups 101
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Fragrance Flowchart
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Incense *corrected*
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Merry Christmas bros
SOTD Obsession for Men
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>>18620326
Ramsey hasn't made a video in 9 months because his ex took his fragrance collection in the divorce. The bull must be smelling great. Also he reviewed discontinued fragrances and shilled for brands thats use real oud and musk, of course he's going to put rare and expensive shit on top of the list. If you want some cheap arabshit there are an infinite number of other channels for that.
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>>18620402
who cares, dude's a giga retard just like canadian stoner dad, malicious new england faggot, british rubber duck untermensch and the insecure furfaggot that lies all the time. i hope his ex really ruins him in court.
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>>18620405
If you really think anybody knows your youtubetard idols you're really delusional. Ramsey was a racist christcuck, shilled Russian Adam and his ilk for free shit, but at least he reviewed vintage stuff that nobody else did.
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What's a fragrance released in the last 5 years that he would wear?
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>>18620423
LV Imagination
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Heritage > Obsession
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Yearly occasion of sleeping naked.
>SOTD: Tabac Eau de Cologne
G'night bros
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SOTD: polo green. A bottle that’s been in my collection for almost 10 years, gift from my uncle when I was just a teenager. I never cared for it, but now that I’m older i can def appreciate it more. If there’s a lesson in there maybe it’s to revisit things as you change and grow. Don’t be locked into one opinion for your entire life.
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>>18620544
>Don’t be locked into one opinion for your entire life.
I learned this lesson early on but I sometimes lose my way. Thanks for the reminder.
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>>18620544
>>18620551
based

>SOTD: Malle French Lover
yes, Pierre Bourdon is still a genius
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>>18620423
Absolu Aventus or Sauvage Elixir. Maybe a Roja if he knows some perfume enthusiasts at work and has his usual desperate need to impress them
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>>18620553
>french lover
How would you describe it?
I wonder if I should order a sample.
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>>18620575
>I wonder if I should order a sample.
yes by all means
>How would you describe it?
hmm, it's a rooty but still airy vetiver embellished by further vegetal notes and some (cigarette?) smoke - kinda reminds me of a white collar guy after a day of hard work if that makes sense
it's also one of the few frags which made me laugh out loud upon initial sampling, so damn good
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>>18620544
i still need to try this
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>>18620569
>Roja

I heard it's overrated and has poor performance.
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>>18620657
You forgot overpriced and embellished history.
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Is Kouros really as good as this thread suggests or is it just a giant meme?
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>>18620676
everything you read here is a meme
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>>18620676
yes
test it to see for yourself (Pierre Bourdon is a genius)

>>18620679
your mom is a meme
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Damn, it really is just Cool Water and Coty Aspen

It's not GIT at all.
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>>18620676
women hate it unless they like horse dick
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>>18620684
>women
lol, lmao, roflmao even
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>>18620575
Ashtray, pepper and hairspray
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Happy holidays everyone.
SOYD: Encre Noire
SOTD: French Lover
>>18620575
Airy smoke and galbabum, then angelica or gentian and airy, smoky vetiver, then airy, smoky vetiver, synthetic white musk and oakmoss.
Quite green, herbal, airy and dry.
I recommend you get a sample of you like the smell of aromatic herbs and dry frags (as in, not at all sweet).
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>>18620686
Whoops sorry, i forgot only fags who like to smell like feces and lipstick use this general
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>>18620683
Green Irish tweed is similar to both, but still a relatively simple fragrance. I wonder why they couldn’t replicate it.
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I bought $300 niche fragrances and women still won't fuck me. What am I doing wrong? What's the ideal spray routine for compliments?
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>>18620734
Try spraying yourself with an uzi
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>>18620734
Being good looking and not autistic.
>SOTD: Bohemian Lime
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>>18620676
the thread is mostly snobby but there is a hint of truth behind many posts. the tried and true method remains of sampling everything and seeing for yourself
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>>18620719
I now own all 4 of them, including vintage and modern versions of Aspen and Cool Water. GIT is the nicest and it's not even close.
>I wonder why they couldn’t replicate it.
Clone fragrances aren't exactly known for replicating the nuances, just the general impression. That's the case here. I'd say 50% at best.

I was really hoping Tres Nuit would get closer so I wouldn't have to pay Creed prices for their stolen valor.
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New l'homme ideal flanker. Sounds pretty interesting. When can we expect this to be in discounters or at stores for testing? Or is it not going on discounters because it's "limited edition"?
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I got a bottle of Dior Leather Oud. It starts on very strong, one spray is enough to get good performance. I get some synthetic/chemical notes at first, with lots of smoke and leather. From the start you notice the pissy fecal stink and it doesn't go away. The heart of the fragrance is the pissy leather woody mix but you really can pick up other notes like the sweet beeswax, I also noticed some cedar halfway through. It's very balsamic too and there is a very old, almost elegant note, I can't identify. It really is like having an old man with a soiled diapers on your arm. I did warn people around me that I was testing a stinky perfume. I could not wear it around people, nobody else likes it. I thought it would start stinky and then settle down but it doesn't relent, the projection goes down just a tiny bit. I like it because it's interesting but it's not the greatest thing ever and something I can only wear for myself. It's gigantic so based of how it performs I have enough to last a couple centuries.
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>I did warn people around me that I was testing a stinky perfume.
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>>18620830
I didn't wan't others to get accused of being stinky or for someone to be looking for the source of a stink.
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>>18620800
>not going on discounters because it's "limited edition"
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Fragrance to smell like an old-timey larper?
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Haven't been into perfumes for a while and I just tried Sauvage Elixir, How the fuck did Dior convince people to buy a Drakkar Noir clone for 200 dollars?
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>>18620544
I thought I'd like it, I liked the other Polos. Somehow the green one is so far removed, late 70 80s smell, a niche today in a sense...
>>18620676
..just like Kouros. It's a meme, mate. Go to a sauna in a public pool and that's what Kouros settles down to after the opening of small mammal piss. You are on the /fa/ board of 4chan, don't forget it what kind of people's opinions you may think of as the Ten Commandment carved in stone. Don't forget it on reddit either. I did and paid the price. Pre-2000, unisex, too expensive and too cheap frags should come with a giant warning sign in your mind, when thinking of blind buying.
>>18620737
kek
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>>18620423
something by JPG of course
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Can anyone help, I like wearing oud fragrances but some of them smell like dried cum after a while especially out in the sun is there any way to fix this?
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>>18620902
>dried cum
Skill issue
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>>18620901
But he isn't gay
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>>18620719
Green Irish Tweed is Cool Water clone?
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>>18620676
It is a meme. The opening smells terrible but the drydown smells nice.
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>>18620908
you don't know that

he gives off major bi vibes
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What should I add in or take out?

Also interested in:
>Papillon - Salome
>Papillon - Tobacco Rose
>Narciso Rodriguez For Him
>Les Indemodables - Musc Des Sables
>Les Indemodables - Rose de Jamal
>Francesca Bianchi - The Black Night

Any opinions on these?

Sotd: Chanel - Paris Édimbourg
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>>18620869
Kouros
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>>18620936
>$100 for 16ml
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This is literally just 1:1 Le Male lol
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>>18620943
That's a lot of variety to try out. It's the smart move. Dropping $100 on one bottle is the dumb move. But it won't be dumb after all those samples.

>>18620936
Nice work. I don't know dick about cologne, but I know that's a good way to learn. Most are bound to be pleasant, and if not, you've lost little money to find out.
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>>18620950
Way too powdery for me, it’s more closer to PLH
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>>18620956
When you finish all those samples, which will be really fast, you're out $100. If you spend it on a bottle you will still have something of value and you can recoup your loses. When available just go to the store and test, otherwise just spend the money on an actual perfume, it will be a much better value. Imagine you do it 10 times, you're out $1000 with samples or have a collection of 10 bottles. Paying for samples has diminishing returns. It makes sense once but each time afterwards it gets worse and worse.
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>>18620976
Having 10 bottles that you don’t like or at worst fucking hate is worse than sampling that many fragrances.

It’s weird how recently so many people act like sampling is some terrible idea but there are tens of thousands of fragrances out there all with many nuances and individual qualities that set them apart. Why would anyone want to settle for 10 mediocre frags when you can sample 100? It’s about the joy of experiencing variety.
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>>18620976
I didn't buy the samples, I just told him it was a smart move. He's not going to do it ten times because he'll find what he likes out of the 8 he bought.
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>>18620991
This. And I feel the same way about watches. I'd rather have 10 $75 watches than one $750 watch. At least for now.
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Finally found my signature scent. Bye fags.
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>>18620976
1. There are multiple houses, so likely has to visit multiple locations to sample those frags which is time consuming and quite frankly annoying.
2. You are able to take your time with the scent, sample it on skin, spray in different temperatures and see how it works/changes. I would much rather not have a salesperson standing there while I sniff things.
3. If you don't like it at the time, you can come back to it later and see if you're tastes have changed.
4. $100 isn't a lot of money, it is better to curate than consume.
5. Blind buying is risky and nothing annoys me more than buying a frag and having to sell it because it wasn't what I expected.

You are objectively wrong on all accounts.
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>>18621013
My worst blind buy was YSL MYSLF after that I learned to sample first
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>>18621016
Which one and what didn't you like about it?
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>>18620991
>It’s weird how recently so many people act like sampling is some terrible idea
It's just me. I regretted more sample sets than I have regretted bottles. I could just sell the bottles I don't like, the samples are money I'll never get back.
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>>18620936
>Francesca Bianchi - The Black Night
That thing smells like mud, sex, gunpowder and rose.
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>>18621029
EDP, it's too generic for me but I love the amberwoods drydown tho. Opening and middle is meh (I hate neroli)
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>>18621013
A 2ml sample is gone in the blink of an eye. If that's enough for you to make a decision you would have been better off doing it for free at a store. For things you can't test at a store you get better value with a travel spray. Endless sampling is more consumptive than buying full bottles sampling is an additional step to buying a bottle.
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>>18621037
Lol
Lmao even
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How do I get the balls to wear something with this? I only wear discreet frags and anything smokey has been nuclear. It smells great though, although it can come off as smelling like a church.
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>>18621142
>fruity
What?
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>>18621142
Just wear them. Who cares what this sinful world thinks? Life’s short
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>>18621037
>a 2ml sampler is gone in the blink of an eye, you’d have been better off going to the store
I cannot agree with that in any way. To the point I think we’re better off just saying we’re different people with different lives and it’s fine to disagree. And I’m not even the anon who posted the shopping cart list
>standing at a perfume counter with 10,000 scents mixed together.
>trying to soak a tester strip enough to get just that fragrance to come through
>no dry down
>no skin sample
Versus being able to apply the fragrance as I normally would once or twice and go about my day. Smell it on my skin, throughout my day, as I would typically wear it. Get feedback from the people I’m around all day. It’s invaluable information. To the point I feel wasteful if I DONT sample like this before buying.
>you can just sell a bottle you don’t like
There’s a zero percent chance I’m wasting my weekend posting on some marketplace, answering questions, meeting up with someone. Etc. When I’ve gotten bottles I can’t stand before I’ve just given them away to a friend so they get some use out of them.
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>>18620745
Below is a very convincing formula for the original green Irish tweed. You should have no issue getting the non-ifra compliant aroma chemicals that have been prohibited or at least heavily restricted since the 1980s when this was released:

Vertofix Coeur 260
DHM 105
Galaxolide 50% IPM 105
Hedione 90
Ambrox super 60
Bergamot EO 50
Lavender EO 40
Neroli Bigarade EO 40
Lyral 35
Allyl Amyl Glycolate 30
Methyl Ionone Gamma Coeur 30
Precyclemone B 20
Clary Sage EO 20
Bitter Orange EO 20
Coriander EO 10
Veramoss 8
Geranium EO 7
Cistus EO 7
Helional 5
Methyl Octin Carbonate 3
Nutmeg EO 3
Bay Laurel EO 2
Galbanum EO 2
Triplal 2
Oranger Crystals 1

I’ve tried to shorten and simplify the formula as much as possible so that someone without a specialized laboratory or at least a very vast collection of molecules and naturals still has a shot of experiencing what green Irish tweed was originally meant to be
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>>18621163
>sinful

lol
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>>18621196
How does hedione smell on its own?
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SotD: Valentino BiR intense. Just smells like lavender and vanilla to me. If the longevity is there it would be a great signature scent. Price is kind of BS, I’m sure there’s cheaper options out there that work. Reminds me of my grandmothers house, she always liked lavender.
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I knew women’s opinions on fragrances are bs when I soaked my collars and wrists in this and got complemented
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>>18621169
You can just put your bottle up on ebay or gift it to someone if selling is so much hassle.
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I give away my extra stuff to my dad because I'm scared of getting scammed online
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struggling to find some more scents and something that fits.i did some of the bottom right ones, they got compliments always- but feel free to express something new and what comes to mind.
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>forgor pic related
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>>18621233
What a mess, so you're trying to look like a k-fag but dress in guido jumpsuit? Your scents are heavy night/winter frags. Guidos wear generic freshies like Eros and Sauvage.
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Anything like Mitsouko Guerlain but for men?
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>>18621217
>selling is way too much of a hassle, i typically just give a bottle away to a buddy if i hate it that much
>bro... if selling is too much of a hassle you can just sell it.... or give it away
lmao... you fuckin retard. Id give you a noogie if i could
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>>18621240
just use Mitsouko (EDT)
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>>18621251
My mistake, I didn't know you found a solution to your problem and just wanted to rant.
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>>18620911
Many (most?) pre-2000s classic fragrances are like that tho.
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>>18621013
Why do most male fragrance youtubers look like that and so few like prime Jeremy?
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>>18621236
oldfag wouldn't get it, but thanks for the recommendations. found a nice mix with Prada L'Homme EDT, smelled it today, good for everyday
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I bought some travel atomizers from Santa Maria Novella. I have some splash bottles that I wanted to spray even if that means I will stop being a splashgod. They were $15 each, you could probably get similar quality for cheaper but I thought an actual brand would be more reliable. It shipped super fast. I liked that it was a bigger 15ml and the opening was wider for easy pouring. The paper box smells a little bit but not perfumy. It's hard to open the box without breaking the top flap. The sprayer has a metal bearing inside that rattles, I don't know if that is a sign of quality or not. It sprays very short and wide, very explosive. Not great for half sprays and it's not very fine. It's probably best for colognes which makes sense coming from the brand. I'll be using color stickers to match the bottle and the sprayer. I wish they had other colors and other sprayers options.
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Got a 200ml of this for Christmas, did I do well?

I think it smells great.
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>>18621406
>I think it smells great.
You're doing it wrong, you're supposed to wear things that smell bad.
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>>18621411
Okay. Can I wear you this Saturday?
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sotd dior sauvage edt
merry christmas bros
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>>18621416
cheers, anon
merry christmas
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>>18621414
Yes, I smell like rose wax, oatmeal, kimchi, aloe vera, and musk.
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>>18621394
DecantX has vaporizers that are usually pretty decent, never had any that are straight up bad, but a couple that aren’t as good as others.

They also have like 8-10 colors in both 5 and 10 ml sizes. I’m pretty sure they just buy them from a vendor and have their brand/logo etched into the aluminum, but I can’t find a vendor that sells them in the original form so I’m stuck buying them from DecantX.
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>>18621406
I've always liked Versace Eau Fraiche, my only complaint is that it doesn't last very long. Bottle is awkward too.
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>get a sample in the mail
>it's a sauvage elixir clone
how indian of them
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>Creed Oud Zarian
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>>18621442
You can get the unbranded ones on Amazon for like 1$ each. Amazon US, so if you’re not in burgerland it might be different. Microperfumes also sells them for like 2$ each. One of those things that are probably like a nickel each if you buy a thousand of them, but who wants to do that?
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>>18621453
I like the regular Explorer, and I don’t think it smells anything like Sauvage.
>use our most popular brand name “Explorer”
>copy the most popular scent
Seems like a weird business move. Possible, but weird.
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>>18621453
really, is that what sauvage elixir smells like? I had a sample of explorer some months ago and really didn't like it at all
never tried sauvage elixir tho so I can't say
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>>18621442
I've had several duds with their 2mL decants. I'm talking like 3 to 5 out of maybe 150 though
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>>18621509
No
Explorer is a clone of Aventus. It would be retarded for a flanker of Explorer to switch to being a clone of a flanker the Sauvage line, it would make more sense for an Explorer flanker to clone an Aventus flanker, like Aventus Absolu, which is pretty much a chimera of Sauvage Elixir and Aventus
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Recommend me something new that hot girls (15-25) will find sexy
I'm getting tired of my old fragrances

My top 3 are Creed Aventus, YSL La Nuit and Channel Egoiste but mostly I just wear Aventus desu
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>>18621530
lmao, i didn't know people wore aventus and eros unironically
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>>18621531
Why shouldn't I?
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>>18621522
sooo... it smells like Sauvage Elixir?
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>>18621546
No. It smells like Aventus Absolu, which smells half-like Sauvage Elixir
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Today I started the afternoon with the aftershave version of Ungaro PH1, at night I moved on to the EDT. The aftershave has a big stinky top note and it settles muskier. The EDT goes into more of the precious woods. Neither projects too much but the EDT certainly has a bigger body and lasts longer.
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>Dior Sausage
Why does Jeremy Fragrance like this? I tried it and it seems super generic, like for a 40+ guy. Is the Elixir version more interesting?
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>>18621519
>decants
>maybe 150 though
Do you just test eternally or do you buy full bottles?
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>>18621470
>who wants to do that?
I do. I found one of the atomizer manufacturers for all the major brands and considered ordering one of their premium sprayers to make small atomizers. I'm certain there is a business opportunity there. Not everyone wants the same cheap chinese ones from amazon or the $100 ones from Creed. There has to be a market in the middle.
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>>18621362
There are a few attractive male frag ytubers, not just jeremy. fragmental, aussiemarcel, chad secrets, etc.
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>>18621577
I do buy full bottles
Most frags I enjoy as a curiosity instead of an investment to see if its "sognature worthy"
I prefer the 2ml spray decants over the 0.7mL splash vials from Luckyscent, so here we are
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Sauvage Elixir blind buy was a success. It smells like what Paco Rabanne One Million is trying to imply. I love the licorice cinnamon combo.
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>>18621581
Yea maybe. Honestly I wouldn’t think your average person gives that much of a shit HOW the fragrance gets on their body as long as it’s relatively convenient. As long as it 1) doesn’t leak 2) sprays about the right amount in about the right place.
But I fully accept that I may be wrong about that. I could see a business plan like:
>research the shitty atomizers on Amazon, what ppl do and don’t like about them
>come up with your own “design” by piecing together parts from manufacturers and order 1,000 or so
>list them on Amazon, a SHOP store, etc
>make some shitty YT/Tiktok shorts to get the “fragrance community” people aware of your product
>????
>profit
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>>18621530
Myslf is pretty popular with women. Boss Bottled Absolu has got me a lot of female compliments, and for 100$ a bottle it’ll last forever since 2 sprays is enough for a whole day. And Y edp as well, although that one is usually along the lines of “wow, you smell so nice and clean”. So idk if that’s what you’re going for.
>how do I get women to like my cologne
Just pick the most normie, popular fragrance. They’re popular for a reason.
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>>18621614
The design is not the challenge, there isn't a lot of space to innovate and the manufacturer can do whatever you want to spec. The big ask is to convince people to pay more for a more "premium" product that is 95% identical to what they get for pennies. The key is to find people who don't want their fancy/expensive perfumes in cheap atomizers. You need very targeted marketing. I have some ideas but I need to get in touch with the manufacturer and find out their minimum order size.
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>>18621531
i wear aventus ironically
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Can anybody ID the cologne bottle in this pic from the Epstein files?
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>>18621678
Looks like L'Occitane on the right
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>>18621470
I can’t seem to find either. The stuff on Amazon is all… similar, but not quite the same. In other words not interchangeable with the ones I have.

The Microperfumes ones -do- look the same from some of the pictures, but I can’t find anywhere on the site where they’re selling the empty vaporizers, stand alone.

>>18621519
Yeah honestly that sounds about right. I’ve found if I had an issue with one it’s usually because the straw is cut just the right length and it’s smashed up against the wall so it doesn’t draw the fluid up well, but I’ve had at least one that was fucked internally, somehow. Irritating in the moment but fairly reliable over all.

>>18621599
Same fren. Sample for the enjoyment of sampling. And fuck SuckyScent and their shitty dab vials. Literally refuse to give them business with those shitty things.

>>18621634
If you ever put it together toss something in here, I’d consider it.
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>>18621690
Good eye, appears to be the shower gel.
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>>18621678
>>18621690
>>18621701
Weaponized autism at its finest. Well done.
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Oud Wood smells like women's lipstick from 2000s, not sure how to feel about it. I like it on my clothes rather than on skin though.

>SOTD: Al-Rehab Lord Blue
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>>18621678
One of the pics show a Byredo bottle. Not sure which frag tho. I'd imagine Gypsy Water because it's their famous male leaning fragrance.
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SOTD Kouros
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>>18621711
>I like it on my clothes rather than on skin though.
Many such cases. I basically have a section that are just clothes scents. Usually clean scents or stuff that doesn't last on my skin but really pops on clothes.
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>>18621678
Is that a Johnson & Johnson's baby powder?
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>>18621715
I experimented for a bit and found out musky and clean fragrances work well on my skin that I haven't rubbed well in the shower. That's why whenever I want to wear one, for example Another 13, I just soap scrub anywhere except my wrists and neck area. Sometimes your natural musk develops the fragrance well and projects it better.
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>>18621719
I don't know about specific profiles like "musky and clean" but generally speaking perfume will last and project more when your skin isn't clean probably because of your body oils. Which sucks because I quite enjoy putting on fragrances after a clean shower.
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I thought I'm done with frags for a while, then I end up in the morning again, looking at reviews and managing favorites in store sites. Basically gooning and edging but for purchasing fragrance. Tried 3-4 samples yesterday, some are re-tries, helps solidify a choice. Going to cop an Armani Code edp soon, it's on discount.
I really should channel this autistic fixation's energy into something productive.
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>>18621725
Yea, that basically about sums it up, doesn’t it? My life is a meaningless slog… but at least I owned some stuff that was cool for awhile.
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what's the point of reading or watching a scent "review" if you can't smell it?
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>>18621461
>rose + oud combo
Why there are so many oud frags with this combo?
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>>18621809
It's like the lavender + oakmoss stuff of Arabs in 500 AD
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>>18621809
That's a fairly traditional association in ME. They did it for centuries.
And for the western market, rose + oud is safer than pure oud.

Coincidentally, I just ordered a Promise decant (rose + cypriol).
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any serge lutens thats worth sampling?
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>>18621815
L’Orpheline if you like dark churchy scents
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>>18621724
I only got into this hobby because im trying to look for the fragrance my dad used to wear (before he bought milk and cigs). I have like 3 full bottles and 30+ decants now lol
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>>18621815
>>18621819
Any other unisex/masculine frag?
Also considering a sample set but none looks particularly interesting.



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