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/btg/ BOOT GENERAL - LACE TO TOE EDITION

What do I need to care for my boots?
>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)
>Horsehair brush ($10-15)
>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)
>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bick4/renovateur
>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP
>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest them

How do I deal with x stain?
>mud: allow it to dry then brush off
>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible
>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper
>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush

>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?
No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.
>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're good
no. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.
>Are Thursdays any good?
no.

Manufacturer Red Flags
>Luxury
>Bespoke
>Sustainable
>Vegan
>Unknown leather source
>Made in Chyna/Mexico/Indonesia

Boot Red Flags
>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)
>C*rk/C*lastic
>Zippers
>Non gusseted tongues
>Excessive/unnecessary seams
>Combination/mixed material heels

Boot Brands NO
>Turdsdays
>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters
>any Whatsapp makers in the far east
>Blkbrd

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>>18628442
>but a zipper is a must for me
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How come unstructured sometimes look nice but sometimes gets retarded? Is it a last or sizing issue? Has to be in a really stumpy last so your toes have very little extra space at the front or something. A lot of times it looks good on Red Wings though. Is their 8 last somewhat short from the ball to the toes?
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>>18628597
A collapsed toe box never looks good
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>>18628597
probably stepped on it to speed it up
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>>18628434
>>18628442
>>18628449
you get what you fucking deserve
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>>18628434
>>18628449
Those are sub-$100 boots of questionable construction quality and the most bottom of the barrel dogshit they can legally pass off as leather. We're never gonna like any of it. If you like them and that's your budget go for it.
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>18628821
kill yourself
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Let's post shoes. What are you wearing right now?
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>>18628597
The type of leather is what’s important, along with the last’s toe profile. That boot in the pic is the John Lofgren remake of the Japanese WW2 boots, right? If so, the pigskin is too thin and will inevitably deform like that. Only thicker cowhide or horse leather bends and forms to the toes well without collapsing.
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>>18628521
Name of boots in pic?
>>18628844
Same question
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Now that Lucchese is going to shit is the go to boot company Blackjack or Rios of Mercedes?
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>>18628886
Enzo Bonafe "Balways". They're a pain to get since only their American stockist, solegarb, has access to the pattern. I do like them though, and since they modified the last a little for me they're my best fitting shoes.
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What did Grant Stone mean by this?
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>>18628926
I did also find the timing funny
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>>18628926
>>18628929
Why?
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>>18628931
no reason at all
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You know, I've been considering either this boot, or its "Heritage" model, for some time. At a 4.9/5 review score from nearly 37k reviews, I want to believe the $200 isn't such a bad deal, so I thought I'd check this 4chan boot general thread about w-
>>18628521
>>Boot Brands NO
>>Turdsdays
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>>18628961
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>>18628963
Are bronze cast boots hard to break in?
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>>18628961
actually they're so well made that the r*ddit had to ban posts about poor quality control because it was almost every post
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>>18628963
To be clear, you're communicating that a "Thursday" brand "Captain" boot from its "Rugged and Resilient" line construction (and potentially its "Heritage" model, which is the same boot but with a wider toe box) is an unacceptable choice for a person shopping for boot because you posted a Reddit photo of an entirely different boot model which complains about its color?

I appreciate the quick response, but I have to admit this advice doesn't seem reasonable.
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>>18628961
It's just a bunch of elitist fags mad about them.
>>18628966
>when reddit complains about Thursday's it's all true and based, when reddit complains about Truman's they're picky faggots
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>>18628968
i'm communicating that its a shit brand with bottom of the barrel materials and construction designed for the lowest common denominator of people getting into boots (the kind that shops by price)
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>>18628963
>reddit image
>>18628966
>"r*ddit claims 99% poor quality control"
>"but those posts are banned, so you won't find such evidence"
Huh?
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>ton of turdsdays QC issues flood the subreddit
>their mods banned them
based retard who doesn't understand the concept of time
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...okay, guys. I didn't realize asking for a sort of "qrd" about "Turdsdays" was going to cause such a ruckus, here.
I'm sorry.
Thanks for helping; I'll keep these 3 examples of "poor quality" in mind for any future purchase.
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>3 examples
don't be dum the poor quality and design is its soul and what is bred in the bone will come out in the flesh
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>>18628972
>when reddit complains about Thursday's it's all true and based
>all the pictures were edited
when reddit complains about Truman's they're picky faggots
no they're correct and vince is retarded

>>18628974
you can search the history and even find the post when they announced the ban on "customer service posts"
its literally rule number 1 now
the picture of the misaligned ir soles in the last thread would get removed if it were a pair of Thursdays posted on the r*ddit
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>>18628962
is it true that that type of leather is not good for areas that get wet? Like I asked the robot if it would survive an Albertan winter and it said CXL wasn't a match for the climate.
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>>18628979
Save up for Red Wing or Parkhurst. Maybe Meermin. Something like that. Then you have a nice lifer boot.
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>>18628998
>is it true that that type of leather is not good for areas that get wet?
no? i mean the CXL would perform not as good as the waxed fleshed offerings but CXL by itself is a decent performer in wet conditions
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any leafs here? where do you even get Whites from?
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>>18628968
On one hand there's too many horror stories about Thursday's QC to at least not be a bit suspicious.
On the other hand they come mostly from redditors who are known to do all kinds of retarded shit to their boots.
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Ffs
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>>18628968
its amazing that you can't pick up on the fact that its a reskined captain with a zip
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>>18629016
i got mine from bakers. they were kind enough to omit a zero from the declared value
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>>18628597
it's both the last and the sizing/fit and generally the more you fill up the last with your foot the less collapse you get
when you have a lot of empty space in front of the toe you get that additional toe crease, people with wider feet that size up for width get that a lot
the last also has a lot to do with it, elongated, almond shaped lasts obviously tend to collapse more than round toes, because of the extra space
contraindicatively bump toe lasts don't collpse as much as flat toe lasts, despite having extra space, because the round, bulbous toe holds it's shape a lot better and is harder to deform, the MP last collapses more than the 55 last for example, that is why the RW 8 last holds up unstructured

some people really love that elf shoe/leather sock look and that is what they're going for
basicly the meta for patina thunderdome
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Does anyone have any experiences on the Russell Oneida Moccasin? The ones I want are $500, Chocolate Bison main, Sage Chamois trim. Would I be wasting my money?
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Are Red Wing boots millennial coded
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>>18629101
great as driving shoes or house slippers but not that great as pavement pounders
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>>18629142
They are if paired with a tapered, cuffed, selvedge jeans and a flannel.
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>>18629097
did you ask or did they just do it?
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>>18629097
sorry question two: how did you know what size to get? Like you can't try them on anywhere, or am I just being silly and you can?
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>>18629101
i thought for $500 you might just as well get yuketens, but they cost $700 now
shits fucking crazy man
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>>18629159
i did not ask for it
>>18629160
i took an educated gamble and bought a pair of semi dresses from the retailer lost&found
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>>18629142
IRs for sure are. Beckman and Moc toes less so.
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>>18629100
isn't pic related just a case of a too big of a boot all around? like the facings shouldn't touching like that, too much room in the front
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>>18628968
i bought them and resold them. they look and feel cheap. trying them yourself if you like them kudos to you. i got a pair of ir for 299 during the pandemic.best money spent
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>>18628521
im new to moccasins, i saw a cheap one from a manufacturer here in italy for 90 euros, says its real leather too
im thinking of getting and see if i like it, its not that big of an investment
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What has been your best measurement service?
Fleet Feet did their whole scan and made me do the walk so they could check gait and all that.
Red Wing uses their Volumental scan.
Of course there's a traditional Brannock
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>>18629162
Yeah, the BIFL movement is doing a number on leather good prices. I may go for it and get them anyway cause im in love with them and they're better than Hey Dude's or any other driving moc.
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>>18629659
handsewn moccasins or fake moccasins? probably fake at that pricepoint
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>>18629324
Just copped some amber harness IR's on Black Friday for the same price. I just recently broke them in and did a 5 mile hike and holy shit, they're more comfortable them my old Rocky S2Vs I wore in the Army and those felt like shoes.
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>>18629746
My IR's. Well worth the $300.
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>>18629746
I wore these for a good chunk of my army career. They're nice, just heavy. I liked that the sole was stitched since I had those bullshit Nike FSB boots and the sole started to separate after a week in the field.
These Belleville boots were my favorite though
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Can you help me identify the construction of these boots and decide whether I should get them?
Seller says these are wood pegged service boots from 40s Czechoslovakia. Doesn't say anything about the stitch. Is this thing gonna break apart after a month? It's over $400 which is still cheaper than Red Wing around here.
The insole length is 300 mm while my Bergs that fit comfortably are 290 mm. I did have to have them stretched a bit by cobbler though and they fit very snuggly with thick socks. I think I could go half size up, but whole size seems like too much. Could very thick leather insole size it down enough?
Bros I want these boots so bad,
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>>18629856
if its a pegged construction where are the pegs?
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>>18629859
I was thinking the same. Seller also sold these in the past which seem to be very similar and it was common around here at the time. Could it be under the outsole?
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>>18629868
seems unlikely, you're thinking they pegged the midsole and then stitched an outsole on it? i dunno man probably just the seller being mistaken
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>>18629293
yes, they are too big
supposedly he's 9E on brannock and these are 9E true to size on the MP last

>I intensively keep them 0.5 size longer for the toe collapse.
at least he admits he sized up for more vamp rolls, which is what most do for patina thunderdome these days and just pretend the fit is totally normal and comfortable
it's so prevalent that they removed the size guide feature on the thunderdome app, which would just show what size people took relative to brannock, because it was so skewed towards TTS
completely failed as any usefull guide and was just confusing to see people take 40% TTS, 50% 1/2 size down and 10% full size down on something like a 55 last
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Got my first pair of Red Wings howd I do?
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Gonna buy some suede loafers
Which of these do you think is best? I'm curious
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>>18629906
r a r e

>>18629893
>I intensively keep them 0.5 size longer for the toe collapse.
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>>18629906
They look thirsty. Please quench them with Bick 4.
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>>18629911
C&j
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>>18629747
for 300 bucks not bad. how much did you pay for those tree shoes
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What do most of you faggots do for a living with your shit taste in boots beside cosplaying as someone with sensible fashion
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>>18630167
I sort cardboard at a recycling plant.
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>>18630167
I wear shit boots and wrench on trucks then I put on nice boots when i go out fucking your crush
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>>18629745
i dont know, i think says hand-made but im not one to believe
still, looks good 90 euros (its discounted from 120 but it seems like one of those eternal discounts)
i hope its good
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>>18630167
I do quality improvement at a transportation company. I sit at a desk all day using a computer
I don't wear my boots to work though usually, unless it's raining or snowing. Usually I wear loafers or derbies
I do wear my boots however when I'm working in the garage, doing projects, hiking, etc.
Currently refinishing some wooden furniture, and I like to wear my Red Wings
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Are Velasca boots any good? I never saw them discussed here but they have a sale going on
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>>18630236
They still only doing blake stitch?
I remember when the brand was brand new, one of those DTC online brands that "cuts out the middle man to offer the best prices".
I went to check them out recently and they cost as much as anyone else now, super expensive and no value. Like how Grant Stone costs as much or more than MiUSA
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>>18630167
I work as a helper in a trade, and I wear my PNW workboots every day.
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>>18630240
at least you get qc for that grant stone price
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>>18630287
I'd rather get something like Cheaney made in the UK for the same price
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Anybody know anything about this Quoddy brand from Maine? They're on huckberry and sold out of 11.5 of course but I'm interested in some bluchers.
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>>18630484
Quoddy is legit. Real handsewn moccasin construction, right materials made the right way, made in the USA
Basically what Alden should be but isn't
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Are Quoddy, Rancourt and Alden the only New England shoemakers left?
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>>18630484
quoddy and rancourt are two longstanding brands that makes good handsewn mocs
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>>18628521
Hey friends, I was a little stupid with my shoe trees in my Red Wings and thought the spring just wasn't working. In reality, the part that pushes the toes apart was caught on some wood, and that's what kept it from going in, but I ended up scratching the insole. How bad is this? Should I just let it be and wear it out over time?
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>>18630597
Yes, it will be fine
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>>18630597
it's absolutely fine. Complete non-issue
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>>18630567
Yuketen makes theirs there too
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>>18630597
Ruined, buy new ones.
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>>18630236
I recently got a pair because they have a sale. Looks and feel good, but haven't used them yet because leather soles and its snow out.

>>18630240
They do Rapid Blake on some models, so a bit better than just Blake stich.
They currently have a sale, most boots are in the €330-380 range, which is a more fair price.
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Opinions?
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>>18630651
HONK HONK
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Are the yanko cap toe service boots any good?
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>>18630758
*by Skolyx
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>>18630758
what you've got is a nice pair of boots, now compare it to the dumpster fire that is turdsdays
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>>18630651
Sexy
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>>18630758
Keep in mind that boot comes in two different lasts. One is more service boot and one is more almond shaped and dressy
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>>18630758
>>18630763
It's honestly crazy how ugly the Thursday lasts are
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>>18630777
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>>18630777
>>18630779
Looking for something like this. Just not with that suede upper or whatever that is. These would be the dressy type, right?
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>>18630685
>>18630776
Think they'll fit me?
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>>18630781
Cheaney got a few different ones similar to that on sale.
>https://www.cheaney.co.uk/winter-sale-c253/mens-c254?utm_source=1062_Our_Winter_Sale_Continues&utm_medium=email&utm_term=22453_https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cheaney.co.uk%2Fwinter-sale-c253%2Fmens-c254&utm_campaign=1062_Our_Winter_Sale_Continues
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>>18630781
Yanko does make one of those
https://www.skolyx.com/p/yanko-derby-boot-brown-grain
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>>18630800
ty!
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Any of you guys tried this brand?

Allegedly
>Chromecast
>vibram
>under $300
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>>18630896
>Chromecast

I meant chromexcel
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>>18630896
No but looks fine. Go for it and let us know.
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>>18630787
Damn it, had to order a pair. Cheaney quality Galway style boots at that price is too good.
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>>18630896
try it and let us know
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I don't know guys, I've been lurking the threads for some months now and I wanna buy my first ever pair of leather boots.
I want them to last and act as a daily wear.
I'm planning to pay up to 250€, therefore I don't want to get scammed after a year when they turn out full of holes.

No big brands, so where do I actually find boots to buy? methods? I know what to avoid, but not what to buy, I'm in Italy if that helps.
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>>18630896
love the fake red wing triple stitch
you know the boots are good when they rip off other brands
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>>18631154
This is me,

Like maybe I should go to a bottega of Velasca, like anon suggests, I live near Milan and sales should be ongoing.
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>>18631160
stil me,

I mean like this >>18630236 anon suggests.
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Can bootfags suggest an alternative to these? They are Clarks originals desert treks. I like them but they have this shitty contrast heel panel that ruins the shoes, which you can see the edge of in the pic. In addition the color is not as vibrant in other product photos.

Also whats the verdict on crepe outsoles?
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>>18631274
>whats the verdict on crepe outsoles?
Comfy, but wear out fast.
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>>18631274
I have these ones of those and I fucking hate them. The construction doesn't feel stable, the soles are not comfortable, and I've had malis back when they made those. Once the crepe is worn in it becomes fucking dangerous to wear and it slips anytime it is wet. I have since resoled the malis with christys
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>>18628521
>>salt:
Seriously, fuck this shit.
Got so bad in my area lately I had to bust out my old ass, stanky, non-leathery sporties and I look even more ridiculous with them on and the usual heavy winter get-up.
Anyway, the point is, how so one weather proofs them boots? I have bee wax-based grease and was told it should be OK, but I'm still afraid to test it just like that.
Would applying the good 'ol pic rel ON TOP of the grease thing be beneficial really or is it just placebo and the grease actually works and I'm overthinking this crap?
Sorry if it's silly /fa/riends, it's the middle of the night, can't sleep and I have no one else to ask this right now.
Cheers.
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>>18631335
shoe polish doesn't make for that good of a water repellent, while yes a mirror shine will cause water to bead off the moment you flex the leather the protection cracks
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>>18628844
>What are you wearing right now?

>>18631343
So what do I do, then?
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>>18631347
i personally use obernauf LP in paste form but wiping down as soon as quickly as possible is your best bet
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anons what should I get that would be like these?
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>>18631569
just get clarks
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>>18631569
Crown Northampton desert boots
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Tell me if I fucked the sizing on a pair of boots or if it's just the leather that needs breaking in. This pair I got is made with Conceria 800's "vachetta" leather and it is noticeably stiffer than anything I've had before. In the morning the boots feel fine, no issues at all and no pressure points, but as the day goes on I can feel them wear on my instep and outer ball of my foot. Maybe I've just been lucky because outside of the insole molding to my foot I've never really had the same break-in pain other people talk about online with my boots, so I can't really tell if it's that or just too small.
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>>18631274
Astorflex Akiflex Desert Boot
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>>18631729
if it feels fine putting them on right out of the box you probably didn't fuck up the sizing, even the best fitting boot will feel bad during break in if the leather is stiff
the thing with veg tan leather is that it shrinks, when exposed to moisture, so they feel tighter after you sweat in them throughout the day
eventually the leather will mold to your foot and darken in the process, you shouldn't have issues after that
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>>18631729
your feet swells throughout the day so a boot might feel good at the start of the day and less as the day goes on
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>2 leather panels + canvas
>cemented sneaker sole
>$1240 "regular price"
what the fuck is brett viberg smoking?

these are production samples never listed for sale before, so he can discount them from $1m if he wants to, but come on
the GYW of this costs $1140 on the vibergnyc store, i don't get how he can justify this being more expensive before the fake discount
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Literally nothing wrong with dainite in the winter.
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>>18631900
Probably takes longer to make than their service boots though. We’re all just gonna have to accept that the reason why it’s all so expensive is actually because no one is having children anymore so we all have way too much disposable income.
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>>18631916
famous words said before disaster
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>>18631916
think you're hot shit huh step on some marble next
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>>18631729
Lofgren? Show them!
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boots in the mail
theyre too big :(
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>>18632006
Which boots and size?
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>>18632007
this is only the 2nd pair of boots I've purchased
So I didn't want to spend a ton on them
Size 11 my regular shoe size, should've sized down
Will return for a smaller size
nice boots though, albeit I'm a an amateur
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>>18632010
Lol
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>>18632010
dont buy these man, again. just save for better boots
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>watching review of Alden Indy’s
>he says they’re the most comfortable boots he owns
>he can wear them all day with no problems
>no pain and no big toe issues etc
>obvious implication that having such issues is close to the norm for him
Is this normal? Not the first reviewer I’ve heard saying similar things. Do people really go around wearing boots that actually hurts their feet? Breaking in not included.

None of my boots make my feet hurt even during like 20k steps full days or whatever. Do you all just wish to finally get home so you can take your boots off?
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gonna buy hoka kaha 3s
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Any French Ranger boot recommendations ? Going to job training were I sit at a desk all day and want to look tough as nails
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>>18632207
With thick leather boots there's always an expectation of some discomfort compared to plastic shoes filled with foam. It's not so much that boots are uncomfortable, it's just that the average person is used to having their feet essentially wrapped in clouds. So the "discomfort" is really just standing on a leather insole wrapped in thick leather. Leather shoes are very comfortable when broken in and they've molded to you and softened up, but they will never feel the same as foam insoles and foam uppers
That being said, Indy boots are extremely comfortable and I consider mine to be my most comfortable boots. The last is amazing how it's narrow in the heel but wide in the toe box. You never feel unstable like it's gonna slip off but your toes never feel cramped. And the Thomas heel is really a difference maker, even though you'd assume it would be subtle. I don't get fatigue at all wearing them
Are the overpriced? Yes, absolutely. Shame on Alden for using the leatherboard midsoles and the shoddy QC. And the shitty thin tongue that slides to the side is inexcusable. But they really are the most comfortable boots I've ever worn
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Anyone bought from Morjas? I like their stuff, the prices aren't bad compared to comparable brands
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>>18632385
Argueyrolles, Marbot Neuvic or Tortora Marseille.
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good roughout boots?
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>>18632481
https://www.grantstoneshoes.com/products/diesel-boot-marine-field-roughout-chromexcel
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>>18632512
Sorry, I should've specified no chinkshit.
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>>18632512
>cxl roughout

¿Que?
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>>18632600
what?
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>>18632573
go be retarded somewhere else
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>>18632600
Are you retarded?
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>>18632207
if you own more than 1 piece of footwear you'd come to realize there are comparatively more or less comfortable boots without any one of them having to hurt your feet
there are more factors that affect comfort besides static fit and how much your feet get squeezed
at the end of the day it comes down to how fatiguing it is to walk around in them, basicly how much support the boot offers, while still allowing for unrestriced movement
a boot with a triple midsole is just never going to be a comfortable walking experience no matter how it fits or how broken in it is, because you are fighting them with every step

people can shit on alden all they want, but they are a solid boot, extremely easy to wear and very versatile to style
it is a very well thought out design, the lasts, the leather and sole choices, the soft lining, the extended heel counter all work together to make a boot that prevents over/underpronation and offers good support all around, while still being roomy, light and flexible
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guidis came in
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What are the benefits of wearing boots to an office job vs leather shoes?
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>>18630006
Not him but all my boots are dry and cracked like that. What's Bick 4 do?
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Okay bros, how the FUCK does the width thing work?
It's obviously 8.5, but what width?
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>>18632779
Looks like B so just get normal width.
Also, are you guys actually wearing boots and shoes under size 12 are you short or just in junior high?
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>>18632788
No way B is accurate, I am at least a D but I think E might even be more accurate
I dunno how it works but B is wrong
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>>18632807
pretty sure the slider is broken
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>>18632779
d width
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>>18632807
you're between C & D for an 8.5, but your arch length is more like a 9.5, which is probably why you thing you have wider feet than you really do
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>>18632779
>>18632815
but keep in mind you can't really measure yourself when you bend over to read the numbers your weight shifts forward
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>>18632818
I was standing with my weight over my feet. That pic is zoomed in on the numbers from standing height
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>>18632817
Okay that makes way more sense since I have extremely high arches
So what does this mean? Size up?
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>>18628844
Weskers
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>>18632840
sexo what leather?
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>>18632831
yeah according to the brannock instructions you go by the larger of the two measurements between total length & arch length. So that would put you at a 9.5C
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>>18632854
WHAT THE FUCK?
i'm fucked up. i wear 8 in RW, Whites, Alden and they all fit decent. the Whites and Aldens are a spot on fit
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>>18632756
Don't have Guidi boots but do have a pair made with their leather and they are one of my favorites. The leather was insanely soft right out of the box but they're holding up really well. How do the boots feel? Most of their models aren't my taste but I have considered getting the 995s.
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>>18632756
horrid
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>>18632840
that last is nice but the buckle is very gay
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>>18632841
Genuine.
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>>18628521
>Blkbrd

Just received an email from ups, it's arriving today.

I'm going to post photos later.
I'm super nervous. I'm hoping they didn't fuck it up.
I've waited almost two months for it.
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>>18632855
I’m in similar position. 9,5 heel to toe but then like 10,5 heel to ball. I base my shoe sizing on heel to toe just like what you’ve done. Works out good for me. No way I’m gonna go up a full size.

Why did you even get a Brannock device if you already know your sizes in all those brands though?
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Why do fashion victims think having $600 boots gives them a personality?
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>>18632841
Black cxl horse. They're the stock build.
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>>18633029
I was looking at some boots from brands that I can't try on in person and they're like "size down from your Brannock" so I wanted a definitive Brannock measurement
Also I realized my right foot is the larger of the two and the one I need to size for, and I'm 99% sure previous times I've used a Brannock I measured my left
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>>18633032
Nice projection, faggot
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>>18632967
they're a used pair, so it's a bit too roomy in there despite me going TTS. this is likely because the boots have been expanded from wear by the previous owner. i popped in some spare insoles i had lying around and they feel pretty good now
>>18633032
actually they're 1000 dollar boots, chud
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>>18633024
this gon b gud

you should have known better
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These really do look like clown shoes
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>>18633243
They don't at all though
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>>18633032
the guidis were 1000 plus thank you very much
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>>18633032
My cheapest boots are 600
If you're gonna sour grapes and complain about being poor, at least get it right
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>>18633243
>I like having space for my toes
>HA! CLOOOOOWN!
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My sister doesn't have any boots and had a pretty difficult time this winter since it was very cold and had lots of snow, I was thinking of buying these Redwing Silversmiths for her, would you guys think it's a good idea to buy these for a woman? I know they are great quality but idk if women even like these type of boots
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>>18633266
Women are known to get cold feet. She will probably be happier with insulated boots.
Also buying shoes as a present is a terrible idea, they may not fit. Women are also known not to wear shoes that they think look ugly, look not in style, don't fit the outfit or assorted silly reasons. So take her shopping instead, nudge her towards winter boots, and pay for what she picks.
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>>18633269
I know her shoe size and she has worn our mother's boots which were too big so I know her size in boots too, and what I do in the winter is just wear thick socks with boots or wear 2 socks over each other, it works
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>>18633266
i believe red wings are the only ones who build their woman's line to the same quality as their men's line so if you really want her in quality boots red wing is your only choice
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>>18633271
Wearing socks is a good idea but it makes the sizing and fit even iffier.
Just make sure you can send them back again.
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>>18633266
terrible idea, get her some nice under socks and warm wool socks instead
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>>18633266
Wouldn't do it unless you know she'd wear that style.
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>>18633257
i wouldnt be so proud of having proven his point anon
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imagine consulting a witch made 'branock device' when they have things like guessing available. Some of you guys are so lost. "Hey ma'am may I measure my foot (?) with a brannock device?" imagine saying this out loud, you sound like a schizo. They call mall security on you if you say this. lol. "I'm a EE width" more schizo babble. "Hi Ma'am I would like CXL leather please" you sound deranged and frankly lost. No, leave these delusions behind, if you need to know your shoe size you contact the numinous aura that is your subconscious and you guess. Your ancestors, who killed sabre tooth tigers, would find your behaviour strange.
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>>18633292
This was probably a lot funnier in your head because it wasn't funny at all
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>>18633292
>you sound like a schizo
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Anyone got the video of the guy spraying his brand new suede loafers with the hose?
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>>18633261
You don't need a bump toe for an ample toe box, dummy.
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>>18633024
>>18633185

It's finally here after almost 2 months.
And the box really smells like it came from India.
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>>18633383
well lets see em
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>>18633409
It's been an hour, bro. Seems like anon has succumbed to the fumes.
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Calm down.

It came with a free shoe horn, foam insole, and leather laces
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A shoe bag for each shoe
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Let's fucking go already
Assume the position
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I specifically told these fuckers "black eyelets and speed hooks".

Didn't fucking listen at all. Speed hooks and eyelets are cheap. You can easily bend them
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>>18633292
Dangerously based
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>>18633440
that plastic coating on the leather is thicker than the leather
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>>18633266
For snow and a woman she would be happier with just sherling lined bean boots desu
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>>18633443
They have shit sizing. I'm US 9EE on the Brannock, they said 9.5 will fit well.
The boot is fucking narrow. It's wearable but a little tight.
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>>18633446
that heel counter looks high af too
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>>18633440
How much did you pay for these pajeet slop boots anon?
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>>18633440
>>18633446
>>18633448
JEETED
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Why hasn't india boot dude assumed the position bros?
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>>18633455
i bet the heel cup is killing him
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>>18633440
>>18633455
>>18633449
Saar please do the needful and assume the position saar
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>>18633448
$320. Shipping and taxes included.

Honestly, my expectations were really low. Especially when they said they can ship within two weeks but it took them almost 2 months. I started to think I got scammed.
That being said, the boot looks better in person.
Here's the breakdown
>sizing.
Don't buy from them if you have wide feet.
>communication.
They live in India, so there's a timezone issue and they take a long time to respond. It might take days.
Also, they don't fucking listen (told them to change the eyelets speed hooks to black), and it's through WhatsApp.
>cheap materials
Specifically eyelets, speed hooks and laces.
>smell
The boot smells of glue and the box smells like sewage water. I'm not even joking.
>misaligned stitching along the welt.
It's minor and hardly noticeable
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>>18633266
this shit wont work i tried it with my gf and she fucking hat4ed them. she went with korean style boots which look way better than than pic
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>>18633464
NO REFUNDS
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>>18633455
He probably can't stand to wear them long enough to snap the pic
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>>18633440
I can smell this picture
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>>18633464
>Don't buy from them if you have wide feet
Shame. I would've rolled that die, too, if they did. I was eyeballing their seamless oxford for a while now.

Thanks for the report.
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>>18633440
Honestly not too bad. Should have gone with Luosjiet if you wanted to cheap out on boots by going to the east though.
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>>18633464
Why on earth would you do this, can you return them? What the fuck dude you could have had red wings or origin or jim greens or wolverines for that price
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>>18628968
I'm going to help you out, because I thought people were just being contrarians as well since all the review videos I found glazed Thursday
They're SHIT. What you get is a mall-tier boot with a good year welt. I had my captains (rugged and resilient) for less than a year, before:
>I had to reglue the sole
>The inner liner had completely dissolved at the heel (revealing that the boot is essentially two layers of low quality leather glued together
>Laces started fraying everywhere
I've had 50$ boots I bought at discount stores last longer. It's leather in name only.
I bought iron rangers a few months ago as a replacement. It's night and day how different the build quality is. And that's for what the autists here consider a mid tier boot
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>>18633570
>red wings or origin or jim greens or wolverines

I already have red wings, white's, truman, grant stone, meermin, and carmina. The only reason I tried blkbrd is they claim to allow customizations (e.g. lasts, leathers, outsoles, boot designs etc) like carmina but at lower cost.

The boot in itself actually looks nice in person, the sizing and lasts are the problem.
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>>18633440
paternity looks unrefined and the leather looks like garbage but at least it was cheap
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>>18633720
350 is not cheap
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>>18633440
What's the leather?
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>>18633735
refinished lower castes
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>>18633735
Salvaged cow leather from dead cows pulled from the Ganges
Explains the smell of the box
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>>18633636
>And that's for what the autists here consider a mid tier boot
Mid tier? RW is entry level, literally the cheapest GYW boot you can get that can be considered good. Everything below is either noticeably lacking or not GYW.
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Are you guys seriously buying more than one or two pairs of boots? Aren't these supposed to be "buy it for life" things?
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>>18633666
>I already have red wings, white's, truman, grant stone, meermin, and carmina. The only reason I tried blkbrd is they claim to allow customizations (e.g. lasts, leathers, outsoles, boot designs etc) like carmina but at lower cost.

Let this be a lesson not to buy thirdie boots again.

>The boot in itself actually looks nice in person, the sizing and lasts are the problem.

No it doesnt. It looks like what a five year old would draw if you told them to draw a boot. The back is shapeless and the front looks like they let the air out of a clown shoe. Your only hope is to pawn these off on an even bigger retard.
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>>18633775
It takes a special kind of retard to go to a hobby community and ask them why they are spending more than the absolute minimum amount of money possible.
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>>18633781
Some of the anons here own 5+ pairs
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I wish I were rich whenever I see this types of boots, it hurts me not having the means to buy them.
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Is 316€ too much for a pair of boots/my first pair of boots?
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>>18633785
>he doesn't have 10
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>>18633788
Saving issue not an income issue
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>>18633788
I was expecting a lot more than €472 based off your post. This shit is chump change. You don't have to be "rich" to get them. You just need to not have a minimum wage McJob.
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>>18633820
Yeah, I'm an university student, basically working as a freelancer. Honestly I don't have the perception of normal quantity of money, in my big family shoes have always been expected to cost less than 100€
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India boot bro has yet to assume the position. I hereby move to table a motion that bans india boot bro from posting here going forward. The rules are clear, get new boots, assume the position. He has violated this fundamental rule.
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>>18633843
They don't fit so he can't wear them
He got JEETED
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>>18633843
>I hereby move to table a motion that bans india boot bro from posting here going forward
>implying hes not so ashamed of wasting $320 that he won't show his face here again
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>>18633440
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
>>18633464
>Don't buy from them
yeah I could've told you that without buying them
>>18633765
>>18633770
jej
>>18633801
depending on what you want to get it's just about enough
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>>18633440
u zhould hev lizend
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actually I was on that website so im glad he did a review on the indian boots. Ill now take my business to aliexpress like the refined gentleman I am
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>>18633858
unironically some of the chinese bootmakers seem to make suspiciously high quality shoes for low prices. some people have posted the tricks to finding them but iirc you can basically get an ir clone in no name leather for fuck all on aliexpress
can't be worse than what anon got
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>>18633464
>Honestly, my expectations were really low. Especially when they said they can ship within two weeks but it took them almost 2 months.
that is such a nonstarter
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>>18633912
Some anon with more money than sense should bite the bullet and review them here.
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>>18633666
Why are you doombuying boots, you only need a moc, a plaintoe, a hiking/work MAYBE a duck if it snows a lot. Then for shoes you want a casual moc or derby, medium wingtip/monks, and dress oxfords. 6-7 total pairs of leather shoes then a pair of running shoes a pair of sandals, and a pair of slides. After that a specialty sport shoe like a basketball or tennis or climbing pair depending on your sport. More than this is generally overkill.
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>>18633666
>the sizing and lasts are the problem.
not the inability to follow the specs you set?
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Alden Indy clones from Rock Can Roll (Red Tornado) currently at about 180. Anyone dares to give them a shot?
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>>18633919
No, I wouldnt. I have one of their henelys in the mail to try though. If it's good I may try their jeans but for boots I would just stick with a made in usa brand.
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>>18633919
Looks off. Ugly
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>>18633920
I got a pair of jeans from them. They're pretty decent considering the price.
I've been eyeing the boots for a week now, but even in the heavily doctored pics there's always something off with them. Sometimes the leather looks plasticy, other times the shilouette looks weird... guess nobody sells dollars for pennies.
I almost pulled the trigger on Craft & Glory engineers a few months ago, after that anon showed his, but they're a 100 more expensive now.
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>>18633919
luosjiet seems to be the go to for indy clones
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>>18633928
does parkhurst still make the niagara boot? there's was probably the best indy inspired boot out there but i'm not seeing it on their site
alden might have given them a C&D for copying them too closely so they quietly dropped the model
the chink brands don't care about that stuff
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>>18633929
they make some sometimes but it and the delaware are rare
desu you could probably email andrew and ask when there's going to be another run
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>>18633920
i have their jeans, the SD knockoff, I like them.
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on the topic of indian shoe makers, im approaching 8 months on my MTO blake shitter oxfords from Bridlen. i got two pairs that i alternate between. they're my wagecucking shoes (in office 5 days)
>they fucked up on one of the shoes (pic rel)
>cracks on the heel counter of one shoe but probably due to neglect
>gave them measurements i took myself
>first pair was too narrow on the left shoe but is acceptable after break-in
>they held off on making the second pair until i tried on the first and gave them feedback on fit
>have to replace the heels on both
>came with drawstring shoe bags. no odd or jeet-like smells at all
>placed order in mid january, got the shoes in early may
>had to drive to my local customs office to self clear the package because those faggots at DHL were trying to rape me with fees
all in all: don't be poor, get a GYW'd shoe, put sole protectors on if you must have a blake, get rubber soles if you're a commuter wagecuck like me, take care of your shoes at a minimum (renovateur + brush), yada yada
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>>18633964
8 months is too soon for leather to crack due to neglect.
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Thoughts on NST boots? Do they look retarded when compared to cap toes? How formal are they? Are they comfy? Am I gay?
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>>18634004
no idea what any of this means, why do your boots have that weird stitching on the front
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Please help, I'm looking for boots that look like Thursday Boots but aren't badly made and most importantly are available in Europe and don't cost ridiculous amounts (so please don't recommend me 500€ boots like reddit does, I'm not buying them)
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>>18633735
Maryam TPR.
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In terms of daily use how durable do you guys reckon Lactae Hevea outsoles are?
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>>18633440
What’s going on here? Is it a split in the leather or just machine mark?
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>>18634037
Yanko. You cn get them from Skolyx for about 300.
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>>18634037
Turdsdays are ugly as fuck though
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>>18634056
Either they marked it for the stitch with the wing divider they fucked up and then used it anyway or the leather sewing machine chomped on it.
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>>18634229
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>>18628521
Does anyone make an engineer boot that isn't just a short round toe? I like something a little bit more of an almond shape.
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what about wallets, any recs?
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>>18634280
wesco mp toe
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>>18634037
Meermin is the Thursday's of Europe.
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>>18634288
i bought a long wallet from a leather show in San Marino that had good reviews, its arriving tomorrow I think
the long wallets were in the women's section and now i feel self-conscious about my masculinity
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>>18634005
It excites the females
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>>18634231
wet break in is a thing. not a thing I agree with but its a thing
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I'm gonna do that soaking your shoes/boots thing and wearing them method with some boots I have and some loafers
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>>18634437
its one thing to wear them out when raining to get them wet but to pressure spray is another
>>18634465
>a year later anon posts: guys how do i get rid of mold in my shoes
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>>18634511
just use shoe trees and let them dry
problem solved
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>>18634511
>pressure spray
it's just a fucking water hose you dumbass yuropiss
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>>18634511
there are guides for straight up soaking military boots and repeatedly switching socks
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>>18634525
In the army your boots got wet all the time. You get caught the rain, cross a body of water, whatever. No one cares or babys their boots. And modern combat boots are mostly cemented soles
High quality welted boots will be just fine if they get wet. But you gotta remember, the people buying these buy then for fashion so a drop of water is the end of the world and they rush to reddit to ask "are my boots ruined?"
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>>18634534
I know that's why I said I dont agree with it. its almost certainly going to fuck up the color but if its a black military boot that's going to get buried in kiwi nobody cares
as you said modern boots are basically thick sneakers so I dont think people do this anymore
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>>18634516
did you know in the EU pressure hoses are not legal due to the water conservation act of 2017
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>>18634537
i assumed they were banned because Mohammad and his rapist friends could use them as weapons of mass destruction together with their spoons
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I bought boots because I wanted something that lasts that I DON'T have to do a single thing to take care of.
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>>18634601
Boots were a bad choice. If you wanted something that lasts forever with zero maintenance you should have just gone outside and gotten yourself a rock. They're free.
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>>18634601
Maintenance and modification are the most fun part of having things though. Cleaning things, Resoling, Sharpening, Fixing, I'm getting hard. I replaced the backlight in a TV of mine for $11 to ali express and now it's wall mounted in my grandmas room of the rest home with a usb stick filled with movies and tv shows.
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>>18634601
Boots you need to maintain last longer BECAUSE you can maintain them.
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>>18634601
And that's no problem. Walmart makes plenty of boots designed just for that purpose. And when they're worn out you just go get another pair
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>>18634534
my army boots were high maintenance though, cleaning and regreasing them everyday. and they have creases like hell. and as I had an easy life in the army in the infirmary, I had to tend to some really big blisters because of those shitty boots.
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>>18634294
I'm about to pull the trigger on the Mr. Lou, but do you guys recommend against dyeing the edge of the sole? I like mine in black.
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>>18628844
wesco boss
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>>18634653
what country?
In the US the army wears tan roughout so none of that
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>>18634681
i mean they are your boots you can what you want with them. i personally think its silly. contrast soles have always looked better for casual boots anyways
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What do we think about Canada West Boots?
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>>18634833
meh all around. not particularly offensive nor interesting
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>>18634833
In the final days of Dayton, one of the greatest PWN boot brands back in the day, the cucked out and had Canada West make their boots
Then they scammed their customers and got investigated and the company went under lmao
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>>18634601
Natural materials like leather, woods and metals need some tlc if exposed to the elements like heat and water or it will rot, oxidize and break down.
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Stupid question. Bakers has a sale on for some dope cowboy boots made out of crocodile or alligator, one of them lizard gimmicks. It says you should moisturize the leather after every wear? Like...is that true?
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>>18635175
After every wear is overkill, but reptiles need to be conditioned monthly, regardless of whether or not you wear them. The skin is very thirsty and once it rips its fucked.

Also you need a special conditioner. Whatever you use on cowhide/horsehide wont cut it.
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>>18635190
Oh my fucking lawd, I was going to get them as daily drivers but nope
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>>18635269
Takes just a few minutes to condition your boots though. Few minutes every month doesn’t sound like it should be a dealbreaker
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Any recs for a goodyear welted, simple black combat boot without speed hooks or a toe cap? Steel toe is a big plus - I love the Ruttman (picrel) silhouette but the zipper isn't quite the flavor I want. Currently expecting I'll go milsurp but I'm hoping you autists have something specific you suggest
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>>18635359
>Steel toe is a big plus
either its a requirement or your making yourself uncomfortable for no reason. it can't be a plus
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>>18635359
Get conposite toe if you must have it. Steel toe is ass
t. tradie
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>>18635469
I'm an autist and like having the heavy and hard toe - the change in comfort doesn't matter very much to me
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>>18635469
just got comp toe boot that I really like for new job. just out of curiosity, why are the steel ones ass?
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>>18635359
The thread shits on Nicks for various reasons but this is probably the best choice for your requirements.

https://nicksboots.com/products/tactical-boot-custom-configuration
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>>18635503
Weight, also steel toes get cold. There's some horror stories of steel caps deforming and cutting off toes, but I don't know if that's true.
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>>18635469
I've had some red wing aluminum toe chukkas for a warehouse job and they were extremely comfortable. They do have holes in them and the soles are flat but I put 4000 miles on them and they're still together enough that I use them as yardwork and shop shoes.
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>>18635544
>steel caps deforming and cutting off toes
i think if your foot is hit with sufficient force to sever bone you got bigger problems than a couple of toes
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>>18635534
>shits on Nicks for various reasons
Why? Haven't seen it happen but I've been eyeing their boots.
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are grant stones good or overpriced? they are the only brand I can find with good quality and come in size 6 mens, only thing is that I live in asia so if something goes wrong, returns will be a pain
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C'mon lads, what's so bad about solovairs? They're way better construction than a doc marty.



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