/balding/ and /finasteride/ general - hair is love, hair is life!Sticky: http://tuxbell.com/index.php/BaldingReminder that if you can clearly see down to your scalp when your hair is wet, your hair is thinning, lots of small new hairs sprouting at the hairline or crown is a sign of hair recession.Holy trinity:Tabs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinasterideLotion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MinoxidilShampoo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KetoconazoleFinasteride/Dutasteride are 5-alpha reductase inhibitors that prevent free T from being converted to DHT, a byproduct of testosterone that serves no purpose after puberty but to choke out your hair follicles and make them thin out and die in a few short years, a condition known as androgenic alopecia.5ar inhibitors prevent your hair from getting any worse, mild regrowth is expected, rapid onset diffuse thinners see a significant recovery on fin alone. Can be taken orally or topically.5ARIs are not dosage dependent, taking as little as as 0.2mg daily fin can reduce serum DHT by 68%, while 5mg reduces by 72%.0.5mg daily dut reduces serum DHT by 95%, but is considered a second line treatment, and can be more expensive and harder to get prescribed. Start with fin.Fin has been used to treat benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) for 30+ years, it's very well studied and is tolerated well in almost all men, however, there's a 1-2% risk of erectile issues in controlled studies.These can be avoided by reducing dosage, spacing out dosage, or stopping the drug. Fin takes days to fully bio-accumulate, the half life of fin is about 8 hours, adverse effects occuring within minutes of starting fin or persisting long after stopping fin are not real and have no basis in reality. Please note that dut has a much higher half-life of 5 weeks, if you're prone to fin sides, dut may cause them for far longer.Refer to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3481923/ before responding to PFS trolls.
Minoxidil (liquid and tabs) is a vasodialator that opens potassium channels and widens blood vessels bringing nutrients to your hair follicles, stimulating them into thickening, accelerating growth and elongating the growth phase. Min is taken with fin to restore your hair to it's original hairline, thickness and vigor when hair loss is caught early enough, (pre-NW2). Can be taken orally or topically.Topical min does not work in 1/3 of men because they lack the required enzymes in their scalp, all men have this enzyme in their liver so the oral route is a good fallback.The FDA formulation for 5% liquid minoxidil is food safe (vape juice, ethanol and water) and can be safely taken orally if oral min tabs are expensive or rarely prescribed where you live. As a general rule, ~4 drops (0.1ml) = 5mg minoxidil.There's a 1-2% risk of fluid retention with higher oral dosages, start with the lowest dosage possible and work your way up when you're sure it's well tolerated.Ketoconazole is an anti-androgen and antifungal that inhibits DHT on the scalp and used to treat fungal infections of the scalp that may be making your hair loss worse such as seborrheic dermatitis, a condition where you exhibit severe greasy, flaky large dandruff flakes with dried yellow crystals (blood plasma) embedded in the scalp. Some people may only have traction alopecia (hair loss from scratching or friction), but it will not cure androgenic alopecia on it's own. Can only be taken topically.Do not use spirolactone. Spirolactone is a diuretic which, in large doses, inhibits testosterone and, by extension, DHT.It is regularly prescribed as an anti-androgen for male to female HRT, and thus, comes with an astronomically higher risk of sexual side effects in men including ED, gynecomastia, and can cause potassium toxicity.Previous thread: >>18613072
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Use spironolactone. Spironolactone is a diuretic which, in large doses, inhibits DHT.It is regularly prescribed as an anti-estrogen for female to male HRT, and thus, comes with an astronomically lower risk of sexual side effects in men.I’ve been on spiro for a few months now and the results are nothing short of legendary. Spiro is the ultimate anabolic tonic that sends test levels skyrocketing. I have >thicker, fuller hair: my temples which had been thinning are filling back in rapidly>facial hair renaissance: patchy beards are a thing of the past. Spiro turbo-charges follicle activity The science is settled: spiro cranks up test production and unleashes it directly at the follicular level. Dermatologists call it “anabolic follicular supercharging.”If you’re ready to stop playing with bullshit like minoxidil and want to grow a mane worthy of a Norse god, you need to buy spiro. Just don’t forget to get a bigger comb.
>>18638314I wish you would come up with original pasta for your dumb psyops.
I stopped shampooing because my hair would fall out but now it's gotten crazy thin and it still falls out.What shampoo can I buy that would be good for my scalp but not accelerate hair loss? Normal store ones seem to fuck me up.
>>18638327Are you blocking DHT?
>>18638290my minoxidil dries quickly is this normal?
Got 5 mg fin with just a single appointment at my regular medical doctor. No prostate exam. Split in four, one quarter daily. Excited to start.>>18638291Can I request that the extreme toxicity of minoxidil for cats and dogs be added to this post? I will request oral min since I live with pets. Apparently it is the most deadly thing for pets in a household.
>>18638290is indian finasteride good?
Gonna red bedroom moodlight max so i dont lose my new growth.
>>18638500I asked around on a hair loss discord servers and actual indians said their products get faked very often so it's a lottery. If you're thinking of buying the stuff from that one romanian site do not, their indian stuff doesn't work. Just get a prescription
i just shave my head and lift desu. fucked a 22 year old chinese club girl as a 36 year old bald unc last weekend. hbu
>>18638314this post was made by a schizo who impersonates me.i regrew my hair without finasteride, spironolactone or any other endocrine disrupting drugs. generally its not recommended to take drugs for telogen effluvium.>>18638317its the janny lmao. look up polycom1 on the archives to see her face pic its a ftm with fetal alcohol syndrome making those posts trying to shill hrt in here.
>>18638491There's a very large list of things that are toxic to cats and dogs, why draw the line at minoxidil?
>>18638553fuck off schizo.
>>18638553someone ought to put a bullet in your head janny
>>18638553It goes in the water and then when the water goes into nature it pollutes it and then it becomes part of the rain cycle.
>>18638549Good evening pigslim. How does it feel knowing I could crush your skull?
should i get on 2% ketoconazole shampoo too if im already on dutasteride?
>>18638798Yes. Get the cream too. Use the shampoo every other day, though, because that shit is strong.
I think it’s too late for me. Getting thinner every 6 months. Any chance of restoring myHairline?
>>18638812why the cream?
>>18638816The cream can be put on before bed and just left there overnight. It’s also great when paired with minoxidil, both oral and topical. It’s a targeted DHT blocker rather than taking over your entire system. Great for people who also haven’t started finasteride or dutasteride yet.>When paired with oral minoxidilHelps with the targeted areas. Apply to scalp and between your hair. Does exactly what you think it does.>When applied with foam.Acts as a moisturizer and DHT targeting. Keeps your hair from feeling dry and muddy when the foam cakes in, allowing smoother combing, eliminating the “bird nest” feeling. Helps especially when using minoxidil foam as a blow dry mousse.>By itselfRubs into scalp just fine. Doesn’t cake up or grease your hair and scalp. Keeps your hair feeling silky and healthy without feeling like product that just sits there and collects like dandruff.
>>18638553I am not drawing lines. I just think that it is relevant information to add.>Minoxidil is highly toxic to dogs and cats, even in doses as small as a drop or lick. There are reported cases of cats dying shortly after coming in contact with minimal amounts of the substance.I have a small dog that licks me in the face and cuddles my head all the time. I do not want to be covered in lethal pet poison, so I will ask to get it in pill form.
>>18638846Can i use it alongside topical fin and min?
>>18638815Fin + 5mg oral min and there is a 99% chance you can at minimum make it better
>>18638815nope. shave it up
I've been taking 1mg finasteride and 100mg spironolactone and I'm still waking up with morning wood. I wonder if it's working.
>>18639208It’s working. Spiro saved my hair. See:>>18638549
>>18639212What is your dosage?
>>18639217100mg saved my hair.
Where do burgers order 2% keto shampoo from?
>>18639237how do you replenish electrolytes from having to piss all day?
After looking at r/tressless for a bit, all the most dramatic balding reversals come from accounts that gave up fin and transitioned halfway through and they attribute their hair regrowth to blasting estrogen and anti-androgens.
7 months on finasteride. If somebody had secretly swapped them with sugar pills this whole time, I would not be able to detect a difference.
Has anyone tried ordering 2% ketocanozole shampoo from Amazon pharmacy by paying the online consultation fee and them accepting your pleas? Thinking of getting it that way.
I have a receding hairline (Norwood 2) that stayed the same for years now luckilyI had long hair and cut them a 2 years ago because it took me too long to properly do tie them so it hide my temples a bitBeen letting it grow now for few months, but I'm getting in the phase of they look like ass and can't properly style them in a way I want Should I continue letting it grow? I kinda want my long hair back because I was better looking with it but it's such a hassle to take care when you're recedingOr should I just cut them short every 2-3 months?
>>18639607Just go to a dermatologist. They’ll insist on giving it to you. In fact, they’re aware of people suffering from hair loss. You could write a shopping list of things you’re interested in and they’ll be happy to prescribe a whole regiment. I went in for folliculitis and antibiotics, and I left with prescriptions for Minoxidil, Finasteride, keto cream, keto shampoo, cephalexin, and an Rx coupon. Just be honest with them. It felt like walking into a medical office and leaving a cosmetology clinic.
>>18639625Cut your hair short. It’s like cutting a dead lawn to let the new grass come back healthy. Regrow it once you get your issue under control.
>>18639645>once you get your issue under control.It's never going to get better I'm still lucky to only be Norwood 2, my brother was already Norwood 5-6 at my age and even beforeGuess yeah I'll cut them short, probably do a fade or whatever the new gen call these hair style nowadaysI'll be fine with my hair if I was 30 but I'm only 24 and they've been like that since my 20s, still have quite the hair falling down but I think that's because I use hairspray almost daily to style them and they're all tangled as I don't brush them, hairline still looks the same as few years ago or with little difference
>>18639649The earlier you maintain your hair, the longer it will last. Avoid mousse. Avoid scented shampoos. Only use medicated shampoos from a doctor. Use anti-inflammatories. Consume broccoli, pumpkin pepita seeds, and bananas. Drink dandelion tea.Balding isn’t exactly genetic per-se. Your body has a health issue. Think of it this way. The “genetic” side is the loaded gun. The illness of some sort is what pulls the trigger. Good luck, young man!
>>18639659I have a anti hair loss shampoo that seems to work but I also think it's placeboGuess yeah I'll try to take care but I know it's just a question of time nowMy grandpa (dad's side) was fully bald, my dad's brother is fully bald, my dad is Norwood 7, my brother was Norwood 5 at 24 years old already
Has anyone managed to reverse a NW2 "mature" hairline / temporal recession?Most of the regrowth results Ive seen seem to be from people who were already pretty far gone and have managed to retreat back to a NW3/NW2 but I havent really seen a NW2 regrow back to baseline. My issue is that I have decent density on the top of my head but my hairline is sparse and makes my balding more obvious. Im on fin and trying to shop for dut.
>>18639681Balding is due to a maternal gene. Is your mother typically under a lot of stress? How’s your maternal grandfather?What kind of shampoo is it? The majority of people are non-responsive to topical hair restoration formulas because there’s too much inflammation, or the scalp itself is unhealthy with something. It’s like gums. It’s not just the top being clean, what’s inside and underneath needs to be healthy as well. It may look good on top, but the underside may be suffering. This is why I recommend consuming those foods, especially the tea, because dandelion tea is a diuretic, anti inflammatory, and antioxidant, and doesn’t killing gut flora like antibiotics. This allows your scalp to properly open up for topical formulas, but also your system be cleaned out for positive probiotics, such as yogurt shots like Yakult, to work. Said probiotics will also activate whatever is in a topical hair restoration solution after it absorbs into your skin.Another anon said it best, “You cant grow crops with bad soil.”Hair restoration stuff, even the basics from Costco, works. It’s just that most people are using it wrong and wasting money and product.t. Went to a dermatologist.
>>18639690>Is your mother typically under a lot of stress?24/7 stressed I'd say, always thinking about other first before her own selfAs for my grandfather he died when my mom was young so I never met him or even have any idea what he looked like, never bothered to talk to my mom about itFor the shampoo that's the one I use Thanks for the feedback anon
>>18639689Yes. The regrowth is quite fascinating. It doesn’t refill from the back of the temples to the front but rather from the middle peak outward. It essentially fans out wider like a cone until it fills in. Mind you, these are diffuse thinning spots, not smooth bald.
>>18639691I’m not sure what’s in that shampoo.I recommend shampoo that is infused with real mint. Since you’re in Europe, get caffeine shampoo such as Alpecin. Combine both into an ultimate formula. Ketoconazole 2% shampoo from a dermatologist is also a DHT blocker but it only targets the applied area. It won’t do anything to your reproductive system. However, keto shampoo is very strong and will leave your hair rather wispy and dry.Mint - Antifungal properties and promotes blood flow.Caffeine - Activates follicles, strengthens roots, and is also a DHT blocker.After using those shampoos will allow topical formulas like Rogaine/minoxidil to work. I’d suggest using that after about a week once your scalp is fresh and ready to start using it.
>>18639689Maybe on some hardcore dutasteride + minoxidil schedule.The hairline is the toughest spot to regrow but there's always a possibility.
>>18638330no I'm on zero medication.I kind of want to try min + fin but for to start I just need a good shampoo bad (got hit by bad thinning + widow's peak)
Reading up on the differences between antibiotics, probiotics, and prebiotics is essential to understand what and when to use something on your scalp.
>>18639709Your hair is falling out because your scalp lacks nutrients. Also see >>18639710Think of a field you want to plant something and make it grow. But let’s say that field is polluted. You decide to clean up the trash and remove all the toxins. However, although clean, the ground is now sterile (you are here) So, to fix that, you start putting nutrients into the soil. Good thing you put these nutrients into the clean soil rather than the polluted soil. The next step would be to activate the nutrients with something that stimulates them. Eventually, something will grow.Now imagine that field is your head, the soil is your scalp, and the plants that grow is your hair.
>>18639709Idk about that nutrient schizo, if you eat meat and vegetables you are fine.Get a medical shampoo that has ketoconazole in it.Also make sure to use a good conditioner.Get fin and min.
Is losing 6-8 hairs a day normal?everytime I scruff my hair as soft as I can to get rid of dandruff some hairs fall down.Some of the hairs are small
>>18639825No. You need to hop on spiro immediately.
>>18639689Yes, I took horny goat weed, b vitamins and ate loads of spinach, all while using caffiene shampoo and moisuring my hairline like 8 times a day.After a month i had growth. I had no assurance it would work im just a schizo. Luckily it did. Currently at 2cm length.Adverse effect i was incredibly horny and my cheekbones grew.
Is this general always this gay? Microceleb trolls shitting this thread up
>>18640006happens every few months when the resident schizo comes back, it used to be a lot worse, i mean flooding levels of personal attacks and claiming everyone you don't like is a schizo while doing everything you accuse others of doing
>>18640023The hell are you yappin about boy? Take your meds schizo.
>>18639825Yeah it's normal. You would be losing 6-8 every time you ran your hand through your hair totalling hundreds per day. If your hair isn't thin or receding then it doesn't matter.
oral min taking newbie fag herethe sides have started...a bit lightheaded, some weird chest pain occurrences a couple times but it feels psychosomatic, kinda "wanders" from center to side and it's not sharp at all and barely perceptibleall sides are just mild so far, upped it to 1.25mg now 2nd day in a row, goal is 2.5mglet's see what happens lel
>>18640173also the lightheaded is just a "feeling", I can kinda perceive it but it's almost like it's not there lol
>>18640173It’s from water retention. That crampy feel like your body is pushing from the inside out is the water retention side effect. You will also start feeling colder and sluggish. The retention normally happens in the chest, stomach, biceps, and face. You need to drink more water, sweat more, and try a dandelion tea.
>>18638290Baldcels are not fashionable. Mods please send this to /fit/ or better yet /trash/
>>18640211So you can’t be fashionable or appealing as a bald man?
>>186401731.25mg is very low. You would get that dosage via systemic absorption from topical. You are probably just imagining it in all honesty. Sides aren't really a concern until you push to 5mg and even then I would only say the mildest of them would start.
>>18640230not him but i got horrible sides from just 1.25mg at a single dose
>heavy shedding 6 months in on topical min>went back to square one basically>shed going on more than 2 weeksFun times
>>18639690>Balding is due to a maternal geneMyth
>>18639689Have you tried tretinoin and minoxidil yet? Microneedling?
>>18640458>>18639707Applying a topical daily for the rest of your life is a humiliation ritual. Im hoping that popping fin/dut would be enough to reverse NW2 so I dont have to bother with topicals but if Im going to end up using them anyway I might aswell start now. If I start now though and end up getting good results I wont know how much of that is a result of 5ar inhib vs topicals...
Does Haircafe have an email address? I refuse to have a google account so I cant leave a comment under his vids.
>>18640674You literally only have to put minoxidil on your head at night, let it dry then go to bed. It fully absorbs after 4 hours and has a 23 hour half life in the scalp. I have been pairing 5% once a day with tretinoin since August and I have tiny black hairs sprouting up on my forehead. My crown is noticeably thicker. Twice a day is retarded.
>>18640710Same x2
>>18640211That's why every post in this thread is focused on avoiding hair loss by modulating male androgen levels.
>>18638815OH FUCK...that's me soon. Rip, brother.
>>18638290I just bought topical minoxidil and I read previously on fit that people just consume the topical instead of applying it to the scalp. Anyone else do this ? I am curious about the number of drops that I would have to take. I haven't received it yet so I can't approximate it yet.
What type of balding is this called?
>>18641186Retrograde alopecia, it's a rare variant of androgenic alopecia.
>>18641205Could also be TE
>>18641169I would avoid doing this. Oral Min has a risk of causing heart issues, and taking too much would straight up kill you. If you want oral min, just go with a telehealth service.
>>18638290I've been on fin for 8 months with no sides. Is there any reason not to switch to dut when it comes time to get another prescription?
>>18641239I am not here to regrow my hair though I would stick to the lower end of the recommended oral dosages ie sub 1.25mg a day, but thank you for your advice
>>18640710What Tret strength you using, also gel or cream?
I'm just turning 22 and I believe I have norwood 1, and my fringe isn't growing back as thickly as it was.What steps do I take from here to stop balding and get my hair back to it's former glory?
>>18641301Norwood2*I believe this is norwood 2, or maybe between 1 and 2? I have always had a super high hairline, but i think the receding on temples is new
Here's my side profile
I see a lot of posts of mixing minoxidil with tretinoin but doesnt tret increase your UV sensitivity? I know its best to apply in the evening before going to bed but does that solve the issue completely? You cant wear sunscreen on your scalp and if youre wearing a hat all the time then you might aswell be bald.
>>18641301>>18641313>>18641314Fin + Min, same answer for everyone else on the planet. If you don't get regrowth, you can take a shot at dut and if that doesn't work get a hair transplant.
>>18641239I take 12mg oral min daily, stop scaremongering
>This formula contains REDENSYL™, Procapil™, CAPIXYL™, BAICAPIL™, AnaGain™, and High-Solubility Caffeine.redpill me on pic related. I saw it on tiktok and people say it works great.
>>18641341What about Ketoconazole shampoo and Microneedling?My plan currently is fin, min + keto
Quit drinking ASAP. This is one of the biggest reasons many are balding so early. People are going out way too much every weekend, and millennials still do it.Alcohol basically sterilizes your scalp and depletes potassium.
>>18641360Maybe don't drink to get wasted then?
>>18641345The ordinary makes like 3 competent products and everything else is snake oil, that hair serum stuff has image reviews on their own website from women all pointing out it doesn't work.
>>18641283I use .5 cream. I melt minoxidil foam by holding the bottom of the cap above a hair dryer. Then I stir in .5 percent tretinoin and apply it to my scalp. Before this I used Keeps minoxidil tretinoin combo. It was okay.
>>18641313NW2+
>>18641313lol yeah you’re a nw1, grandpa
>>18641313Between 2 and 3 if not 3
>>18641169The medication is the same the only difference is the filler materials in the pill vs liquid, though both being food safe. 1 drop = 1.25mg provided your solution is the 5% one. You want to take 2.5 - 5mg for hair loss (2-4 drops), 10mg should be the cutoff where the risks outweigh the reward.
>>18641620thank you !
>>18641169Don’t consume topical. You’ll feel sick for two days and the taste will make you puke.
>>18638290Just do what Bill Williamson does
Saw finasteride being sold on CostPlusDrugs for like 7$ for 90 tablets. Is that legit or will my head explode if I take it? There has to be some drawback it can’t just be that cheap
>>18641830Just go to a nurse practitioner. You aren’t asking for pain killers. Finasteride isn’t a controlled substance and it’s like 30 dollars with a coupon for a 90 day supplies.
>>18641830Ignore >>18641893 I thought you were referring to some grey market website. Costplusdrugs is legit. I’ll probably use it if Finasteride isn’t really 7 dollars.
>>18638290Where are you guys buying your topical minoxidil from? Dropper, foam, or spray?
>>18638529Nah, im buying on a local pharmacy, but most of the stuff they import is indian. I bought a box for like 5 bucks or less with 30 5mg pills and split them in 4, and after a while I noticed my cum was watery and pain in my testicles every other day(it wasnt that much, just annoying)
>>18642034Costco.
Dog bless the ignorant newbies that will stumble upon this cursed general
>>18642034Every brand name drug store will carry a rebrand of the same formula made in the same factory. Equate, Kirkland, members mark. Anything that isn't one of those and is purchased online is probably fake or subpar in terms of actual minoxidil content.
when pp405 or whatever cures balding will dating be harder because you have to compete with everyone and everyone has a full of head of hair?
>>18642448No. It will be easier. You’d just be on par with everyone else. Maybe even date younger again.t. Got face fillers and my dating life skyrocketed immediately.
>>18642450but if everyone had face fillers then you wouldn't stand out
>>18642451>I just wanna mog
>>18642448>pp405Does this regrow temple hair?
>>18642569idk, we dont know if it even works. supposedly can activate dormant follicles tho
Has anyone used Minoxidilmax? Is it legit?
>>18641385Pretty sure this way you "disable" the Tretinoin. Usually you need to first apply Tretinoin and let it sink in for 30 minutes before applying minoxidil or creams. Does it at least work for you?
>>18642766I did, Dualgen 10 PG. Works better than 5% I think, gonna try 15% next but apparently 16% minoxidil cream is supposed to be the best normal minoxidil. There is also Folligenz Minoxidil sulphate
>>18642569I got temple regrowth on fin/dut+min
>>18642928Why do give advice about things you know nothing about? Do you know how many compounding pharmacies sell tret and minoxidil compounded together? A quick Google search would tell you that minoxidil and tret are compatible drugs. Go back
>>18642766You can test for minoxidil by applying a drop of the liquid onto an amount of bleach. If the solution turns orange/yellow it at least contains minoxidil. For those prices you are better off just buying the generic big box pharmacy version, it's the same thing and 1/20th the price without the added snake oil. Even if you are outside of the US you can find a source for a marked up price, but not as bad as those guys.
>>18643133You think tretinoin is snake oil? Are you retarded?
>>18643133Another example of a retard giving advice about something they don’t understand. You should try going to tressless, you’d fit in with the other fucking idiots there.
>>18642448It won't cure balding
>>18643181>tresslessWhy is that place so uniquely horrible anyways? Is it filled with thirdies or something? It's the one time reddit has heterodox medical opinions, and it's fearmongering against ultra-effective treatments.
>>18643286You know how every reddit hobby subreddit eventually gets their moderation majority controlled by marketers who market shit directly to the subreddit?r/tressless is full of FUD claiming dut wrecked their hair in order to push those snake oil treatments that may or may not have real minoxidil.Otherwise, r/tressless users self-select for the most anxious and impatient genre of man imaginable, jumping from one treatment to another and freaking out at the first shed cycle about 4-6 months into finasteride.
>>18642996>Do you know how many compounding pharmacies sell tret and minoxidil compounded together?And he reveals himself as a jeet. You probably buy your Tretinoin from jeetnia too geg. No legit pharmacy sells compound minoxidil+Tretinoin because of how unstable Tretinoin is and it’s well known that you’re supposed to let Tretinoin sit in for 30 minutes before applying any other actives or inactives for that matter. Hope you don’t expose yourself to the sun/UV rays either, Sanjay.
>>18643334Literal retard
>>18643337Very true, sar. Show that white benchod Indian CEO and doctors best in world, cumskin dermatologists wrong and jealous of bharat superpower 2020.
>>18643344You’re just a brainlet whose coping because he got called out for being a retard.
Can you make it fash?
Are 10mg Loniten safe to take?
>>18643172>>18643181yes please explain otherwise. you were scammed like many others. sad!
>>18643433https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17902730/>The efficacy and safety of combined 5% minoxidil and 0.01% tretinoin once-daily therapy appear to be equivalent to those of conventional 5% minoxidil twice-daily therapy for the treatment of AGA.just use oral minoxidil stop falling for snake oil because someone on the internet got scammed and called me a retard.
Thoughts on spearmint tea for hair loss? It's highly anti-androgenic and basically similar to blasting spiro, I see it come up a lot in skincare forums as a cure for androgen-induced hormonal acne, and that too much drives their estrogen sky high.
>>18643481It’s basically an anti-inflammatory on max settings and allows your skin to open up, which allows topical products to work better. Inflammation is like 50% of hair loss. The rest is toxins and lack of nutrients.
Is generic oral minoxidil as good as Pfizer Lonolox (or Loniten)? It’s almost 100€ cheaper
>just use oral minoxidil stop falling for snake oil
I've been on 2.5mg oral min and 1mg oral fin for about 10 months and I haven't really noticed a difference. trying to grow my temples back. both pics are from the same day, wet vs dry. am I not responding or should I buy another years supply?
>>18643597How’d you go from a German to an Italian?
>>18643597I'd say you're a ~NW1.5 now with good density. If you haven't lost ground, it's working. Regrowing your hairline is very unlikely, but it can improve density, but mostly you can expect to maintain your current state. I would reup and reassess in 14 months.
any updates on new hair loss medications? pp405? clascoterone whatever
>>18643610I trimmed the beard and lighting probably? English Dad, Italian Mum so you're half right!>>18643630I'm not seeing vellus hair or any regrowth, I think it's bald for good now. do you think applying min solution to the temple directly change anything?
>>18642162isn't there any way you can test if the composition is genuine? i assume it is if you've noticed changes to your cum and balls, but you never know with these indiansi had similar reaction to both fin and dut when i first started out, but now my cum is thick againalthough i should point out i don't fap daily
>>18643644Finasteride is generic and incredibly cheap, it's very unlikely to be fake. Just find the manufacturer of your specific brand and you can google the fact sheet on it. Minoxidil is a bit different because it's classified as a cosmetic in most places and formulation isn't being scrutinized.
>>18643527Ironic how a guy just like that was probably the mastermind who got you to waste thousands of dollars.
>>18643521Minoxidil is the active ingredient. It is identical in every brand name formulation. Even the minoxidil contained in the topical formulations is identical to those designer pills.
>>18643413You should split that in half 10mg is double the upper limit most doctor's will prescribe for hair loss
>>18643676is dutasteride likely to be fake?
>>18643723Do you have packaging or any information on the manufacturer?
>>18643723are you getting it from a pharmacy or some fly by night online pill site?
>>18643527Walmart pharmacy has tret for 35 dollars. So it’s actually pretty cheap. You should try it. You might feel better if you didn’t look like this.
>>18643741 was meant for >>18643679
>>18643746Lol right. I'll get right on taking advice from (You).
Does anyone have normie-friendly/digestible data about how much it sucks socially to be bald? My mom and sister have been okay with me taking finasteride but view it as a vanity/cosmetic thing rather than practically a necessity to avoid social suicide (no I can't rock bald, too much babyface). Anecdotes or science about how bald/balding men are looked down on would be useful. Like, we can all admit its true here. It sucks. It narrows your dating prospects, you get judged or ignored, you on some level lose something in the eyes of the masses. I just need that explained in an unbiased way that doesn't make them think I'm crazy.
>>18643748You’re lookin a little ethnic there, bud
>>18643597I would try adding dermapen 1x per week, maybe tretinoin as well.
>>18643801I could be a pure bred nigga and it wouldn't make any difference. You are in no position to advise anybody with your (lack of) hair.
>>18643741How does tret help with balding?
>start using topical Minox (dropper)>hair gets all oily every timewat doo?
>>18643880Helps with folliculitis to an extent. Not by much, though.
>>18643798Do people really get this squeamish about hair loss meds?It's almost like you'd have an easier time justifying getting on HRT because it's more well understood.
>>18643901Its less squeamishness and more women not understanding how much it sucks to be a bald guy, especially since I have a good relationship with them so they're like "oh we'd still love you if you were bald" yes sure, because you know me, but I'm trying to explain that the world won't feel the same way.
>>18643902Oh they understand how much it sucks, they go bald too eventually. I say this in the least incel way possible but most women are evil and despite what you think they actively want you to go bald so that you are less confident and easier to control. I don't know if it applies to family but women will routinely make their s/o shave it off only to dump them and ruin their lives on purpose.
>>18643880It increases the sulfotransferase enzymes in your scalp, which convert minoxidil into its active form minoxidil sulfate. Minoxidil is a pro drug, meaning it has to be converted by the body. Tretinoin can turn a non responder into a responder.
>>18643907Isnt it easier to assume that they don't know what they want instead of assuming that they're all just plain evil?
>>18643914You can if you want and it might even be true in your case. Other bald men follow the exact same script to shame others into shaving instead of treating it. If you are clearly distressed about something you can prevent and taking those steps and are happy as a result then why on earth would somebody try to get you to suffer? Because they think it's fine? Selfish evil people.
>>18643935Im the original asker and I think they genuinely just don't understand it. If they are having woman moments then whatever, it wouldn't stop me even if they hated it, but I'm just wondering if I could do anything to actually get it through to them.
>>18643957Just let them know how important it is to you. You don't need to make up stupid excuses to justify your actions to somebody who doesn't and will never get it. Tell them to shave their heads if hair isn't important.
>>18643884Guys? I know have to leave it in my hair, but it makes my hair greasy as shit. wat doo.
>>18643976take it orally, 4 drops is equivalent to 5mg oral min tabs, look at the OP
>>18644016Can't yet. I had to stop taking Fin because it was causing a host of side effects (not ED stuff, but actually dangerous shit). I was taken off it for an extended period until things went back to normal, and my doc switched me over to topical Minox for the time being to see if the same side-effects come back. If they do, then I have to abandon all hope and stop taking Minox. If they don't, then I will switch over to tablets.
Anybody had experience with gyno from oral fin? I’ve been on it for ~20 days, have some noticeable breast swelling. Debating if I should quit now or wait it out.Maybe it’s just caused by hormones fluctuating from fin, but if not I don’t want to wait till it gets permanent.
>>18644040>but actually dangerous shitok I'll bite what happened
>>18644045Ankle and wrist swelling, tachycardia, other problems. My GP said I was going to just causing a bunch of pulmonary problems for myself that I would really regret if I kept taking it.
>>18644042That's totally normal during first month or so. Its not gyno or related to gyno.
>>18643698I already do that but aside from my eyelashes, 0 regrowth. I would say even my Avodart does more now after taking it for 2 months now vs over a year of oral min.
>>18644180https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0001731025003783After seeing this study I’ve been thinking about taking 10mg since I’ve had 0 side effects or effects for that matter. I also don’t give a shit about cost because paying 200-300 bucks every 100 days is nothing for me.
>>18644076You sure? Everything I find online says to quit taking fin and let it subside. Besides the swelling I also have occasional tenderness and pain in the nipple area.
>>18643597regrowing temples is no chance. even women thin there that's how sensetive they are to AGA.
>>18644040Finasteride has no side affects AND it cured my aids!
>>18644193Yes gyno requires an estrogen dominance or near it. Fin can raise your estrogen but similarly it raises your test which should equal things out soon. Now if you keep giving yourself breast exams you could induce swelling, pain and eventual scar tissue growth so leave it alone and check next week to see if it's gone down.
>>18644180What does your hair loss pattern look like? Where are you trying to get regrowth?
>>18644211Wrong. t. Regrew diffuse temples
How bad is an uneven hairline? Perfectly dense NW2 on one side.Thin NW3 on the other side.I just started taking fin recently at 19. Should I still save up money for a hair transplant?
>>18644337It could come back depending on how long it's been going for
>>18644337I’ve had that issue before. Hair regrowth patterns are really interesting. Mine didn’t regrow from the back of the temples to the front but from the peak and refilling outward.Get some keto cream and just finger paint that onto your hairline after a good wash. Then apply minoxidil topical. You can also take oral minoxidil, but remember to drink extra water.
>>18643481I think you need like 4 cups a day for at least a month before it starts seriously tanking your testosterone according to /lgbt/ but they also use it to lower their male BO and skin sebum, since DHT oozes onto the scalp via excessive sebum production, I'm sure it won't hurt.
>>18644279Norwood 2 or 3, hairline only. I basically have this hair loss that causes your hairline to become like a peninsula. Been balding since I was 17 yo btw.
>>18644456Unfortunately lowering your hairline with meds ends up being very underwhelming for most people. If 5mg of oral min hasn't resulted in any results then its likely those follicles are done for.
>>18644467Admittedly it’s something different but trannies also regrow almost 100% of their hairlines so I don’t believe follicles can truly die. I’ve also got a lot of long vellus hair around my hairline and a small amount of regrowth that might either be from dut, oral min or topical min+tret but I don’t know. Shit is fucked, guess I gotta Troon out, get a transplant or do derma stamping.
What are our thoughts on topical Spironolactone?
>>18644470You've only been on dut for 2 months. Just give it more time
>>18644470no they don't yes they pretty much nuke nearly all of DHT but it still doesn't bring back enough for them.
>>18644470As a former tranny I must say this is bullshit. Trannies do not regrow 100% of their hair. It is just that you look on the younger ones, in those hair follicles are not all dead yet, so it creates the illusion that HRT regrows all hair.In my case, the crown did regrow a bit, but not the temples.2y of tranny-mode. Now on testosterone though, lol
>>18644615Before.I only take Fin now and use minoxidil.
>>18638290
>>18644615So it was a fetish all along?
>>18644615Post hairline.
>>18644638Fetish implies sexual stuff. I did not even jerk off in women clothing, lol.I guess I was too much of a loser who could not admit he is a loser faggot, so it is better to be "reborn" as a woman and life will be better. Trannies are very "helpful", always ready to give advice and welcome a new sister. In fact, they behave like a cult. Me, being bullied lonely fag with no family folded with immense ease. Well, anyway, too much to tell. Finding actual non-troon friends killed any desire to continue trooning.
>>18644822Be a nb, femboys r swag now.
>>18642448No matter how many proven treatments come out, most balding normies will almost always opt for the easy way out and become shavecucks. You'd be surprised how many friends I tried to put on fin after sharing my own success story with it and it's always "I don't trust these chemicals in my body bro also shaving is masculine like the rock."Normies are absolutely terrified of hair loss treatments that aren't bullshit natural home remedies that don't work.
>>18643798Just make them watch thishttps://youtu.be/gxoj9jeizys?si=CSaxXUGRsXeZpNeg
>>18645071How old are those normies? Zoomers seem to be way more open to DHT blockers even at young age where the body still needs DHT.
>>18645078You're right in pointing that out, I'm talking about late millennials - early gen zers (uncs), which are the predominant balding demographic as of now. But within the younger bracket of zoomzooms, there's still this aura of fear and rejection surrounding DHT blockers due to roided manosphere fitness gurus peddling DHT as some kind of miracle muscle growth hormone that should be left untampered with. I've seen zoomies make hairloss tiktoks and almost all of them still promote bullshit like rosemary oil, laser hat therapy, etc. and recommending minoxidil with microneedling is as far as they'll go in terms of proven treatments. Fin/dut use is seldom mentioned and still considered highly taboo amongst them. Not that I'm complaining though, keeps fin prices in check.
PSA for those with long hairI lost my juvenile temples in a year without paying attention. Perfect straight-across juvenile hairline to NW2 goblin. I'm on fin now but I really should have taken it before any signs of recession. If you have long hair that covers your temples, do yourself a favor and do a hairline check when your hair is wet after showering everyday, or else you won't notice until it's already gone.
>>18645098>Not that I'm complaining though, keeps fin prices in check.I bet that even IF an FDA approved drug that could revive slick bald areas and give everyone juvenile hairlines existed, there will be tons of PFS style FUD surrounding it and most men will refuse to touch it.
>>18645098Probably because most guys don't want to risk having a dead dick along with some other hormonal problem, even if the side effects are minimal.
It’s been one month of oral minoxidil plus >>18644427. The keto cream is about two months. Just finished my antibiotics for folliculitis. The last month during antibiotics had massive gains.Right now is day two of finasteride. Current side effects is mostly water retention from the minoxidil. Sex drive seems to be more of a personal thing for feeling overwhelmed rather than an inherent side effect. It’s not like I can’t get a boner, I just feel less of a gooner and want to do something else with my life. Again, it’s been only two days.Good news, the hair progress from this already short journey is impeccable. It’s been roughly just one month and I’m filing in hairline..t diffuse Norwood but has to mask it with foam. Don’t have to mask it as much now.
>>18645124same exact thing happened to me. suspected i was thinning but grew out my hair and put off talking to a derm. that is until one day post-shower i checked the situation and my temples had gone missing. just as i was getting in touch with my feminine side i became a NW2 skinwalker. grim.
>>18645179What’s up with that keto cream people recommend here, is it good? I use 2% ketoconazole shampoo but it turns my hair so dry and non shiny.
I like having long hair, I'm sorry that this has happened/happening to you guys (in a non condescending way), I never take my hair for granted
How do I tell my doctor to prescribe me 5mg of oral fin so that I can cut it into quarters instead of having to buy 4 1mg fin packages for 4 times the price?
>>18645423A 90 day supply of 1mg fin tablets is like 30 dollars with a pharmacy coupon on goodrx. Why do you need 5 mg?
>mfw the most hideous looking redditor has a gf and I don't
>>18645075thank you anon they have been radicalizedto the anons who thought they were evil sandbagging harpies fuck you my relationship is greatalso yes we talk like autists our whole family is autistic.
>>18645455Because $30 for a 90 day supply is too expensive
thoughts on hair systems?
>>18645524Your life is over if you get caught with one, better to save up for a HT and use a nuclear stack of Dut/oral min/topical anti-androgens. Assuming you are past NW3.
>>1863829021m7 months into dut (now at 1.5mg dose)5 months into min (now at 5mg dose)This is my head after 1 month of regrowth following a shave, does it look better to anyone?I think I have a bit more density but honestly, I can't really tell if I'm coping or not
>>18645571I should have used clearer wording, I shaved in August last year and again in January this year, so these are both after 1 month of regrowth, one just starting treatment and the other after around half a year of treatment
>>18645571Mid scalp still seems thin, but the very back of your crown looks fuller.
>>18645573My midscalp is very weak for some reason, zero recession thoughWhen layered it looks normal but I'm definitely diffuse thinningIt's a frustrating pattern and makes me only look good with bangs
>>18645574This looks fine especially compared to those other pics. Have you ruled out other causes?
>>18645602My hair has been thinning since I was 17 but I'm 21 now. Trying to get an appointment with a dermatologist in order to rule out everything but I live in Canada and the waitlist for non emergencies is incredibly long.I'm not sure what could drive hair loss for years besides something like AGA, but I haven't lost any ground since starting treatment so it's not all bad
>>18645618How about the hair on the sides or back of your head? Body, eyebrows, facial hair any patchy loss? Did you notice a shed on your scalp when you started at some point? Are you taking other medications? Your pattern of loss looks strange to me, it's not typical especially for 21.
>>18645634Brows, sides and everything else are fine, no thyroid problems in my blood work, no other meds.
Why does my hair look nw1.5-2 in the mirror but nw3 in photos
>>18645644The hairs around your hairline thin before they disappear, which means in flash photography or direct sunlight they look see through. Thankfully thickening existing hairs is very possible with Fin or Dut.
>>18641663>feel sickwhy ?>make you pukejust put in an empty capsule
Did anyone here get this tingling or rumbling sensation on their scalp before they started to lose their hair? My scalp was kind of throbbing/rumbling before my hair shedding happened, along with some gut problems, weird.
>>18645690there's a thing called dht itch, wacky territory but many people swear the latter happened to them before they noticed hair loss
>>18645211Keto helps with DHT but doesn’t have the possibility of side effects like an oral route such as finasteride. You can apply it on your scalp after a shower before you go to bed and just leave it in there. It also doubles as a moisturizer without making your hair and scalp oily. There was a study in Japan where a man lost hair and applied just keto cream alone and regrew his hair. Keto cream also helps with any bacterial infections, so if you have early stages of folliculitis or even shaver’s acne on your chin, it can also help with that.
>>18645690I used to feel a certain tension in the temples as my hairline was receding, yes. It felt like my scalp was tightening
There's always dozen and dozen of hair after I take my shower or even wet my hair, yet my hairline stays the same though
>>18645940hairs dont stay forever on your scalp. fucking cycles and shit
>>18645948HmmmThat could make sense, I always got schizo for this because back when I had long hair I used to lose a bit there and here but my hairline is the same as it was when I noticed it was receding
>>18645464Amazing. Kevin could turn the most bluepilled shavecoper into a fanatical fin-powered DHT realist
>>18645546>Your life is over if you get caught with oneNah
>>18645465Get a job
>>18646098no
Will fin shedding occur only on the areas most prone to balding or all over? The sides of my head look a lot thinner than before I started fin 2 months ago. Im starting to think I might have another cause of hair loss in addition to DHT since my skin also looks worse. What bloodwork should I get? Iron, thyroid, what else? Every potential cause please give it to me.
>>18645728I’ve experienced a mild burning sensation in my hairline both times my shedding got worse.>>18645124Happened to me, longhairbros remain vigilant……Thoughts on reducing/spacing out doses of oral fin? Been seeing a lot on reduced dosages (0.5mg, down to 0.2mg) being just as effective for hair loss management. How long does it take for dht to return to normal levels?
>>18646196tits or gtfo
>>18646196Are you wearing a ponytail regularly or a similar tight hairstyle? Thyroid would be most likely otherwise, you could also have a vitamin D, B12 deficiency. There is also retrograde alopecia where you basically bald in a reverse pattern affecting the sides and back of the head. The first and thyroid/vit deficiencies are very common causes for what you have.
>>18646196Looks like telogen effluvium, maybe see a doctor before hopping on anything.
>>18645571There is definite improvement in terms of hair quality. Individual strands look much thicker, straighter and darker on the right, compared to the left where they looked wispy and more miniaturized. You will have to stay longer on treatment to see better overall coverage. Worst case scenario is you only maintain these gains, but you'd still be above baseline.
i have diffuse thinning and was on finaseride for 6 months and noticed no change, or maybe a very subtle change. i quit and immediately went on dutasteride for 3 weeks and i already notice the short thin hairs being a bit longer; before they were stuck at a certain length, they haven't fallen out though nor have i shedded on fin or dut. i hope all of my hair thickens later.
You guys told me finasteride causes limp dick. It’s doing the exact opposite.
>>18646459Fin increases free T because less of it gets converted to DHT. The only reason you would experience bad sexual sides is because more of that T can get aromatized into estrogen, but that's rare.
What do you guys think, regrowth possible or is it over? For the past 10 years my hairline receded by 2-2,5cm.
>>18646465Your temples and temple points are heavily minaturized, and slick bald far out, but I see small hairs touching your hairline and vellus ones a little further from the hairline. Any loss on the crown? In any case, balding is always going to get worse as long as DHT is choking the hair follicles on your scalp. Try Finasteride, or both Finasteride + Minoxidil if you can commit to a daily topical, or start with Dutasteride if someone can prescribe it right away and see what happens in a year. If you shed, don't worry, it means the drugs are working.
>>18646466That’s my good side lol, pic related is my bad side. No loss on my crown but my hair is getting smaller and the tips are getting thinner vs my heathy hair which is really thick, with the tips looking like being cut off with scissors.
If I can feel little baby/vellus hair on my temples that means it can grow back to full size hair strands if I'm on dut+min right? the follicle is only dead if it's completely slick right?
>>18646465Possible as in back to a nw0? Highly unlikely. However if you choose to do nothing it will just get worse and you will be kicking yourself that you didn't halt it now.
I ran out of finasteride and now I'm only taking spironolactone and it feels better subjectively. It should work better too right? My face looks cuter too.
>>18646674It's objectively worse as an anti androgen. Not even half as effective as 1mg fin.
>>18646646There’s no way to know how you respond to treatment before you use it. But a good rule of thumb is that pigmented hairs are fully capable of bouncing back, but vellus hairs are “stuck” producing those really fine nearly invisible hairs. But there have been cases of people who revive slick bald areas.
>>18646678If you take like 200mg, you can suppress testosterone enoigh to disrupt the DHT cycle and it becomes functionally equivalent, however at that point you're pissing yourself constantly and you'd better be taking estrogen or your body will raid your bones for calcium.
just grip the fitted you fucking subhuman
>>18646954any time I see a dude under 40 wearing a hat they're already balding
Does anyone here have experience with bicalutamide?
Thoughts on Folligenz Liposomal minoxidil sulphate?
>>18646459There’s actually no scientific evidence that finasteride causes ed.
>>18640173Update:Still on 1.25mg, I only ever got minor sides for the first 3-4 days after upping the dose, otherwise 0 sides.Plan to up it to 2.5mg in the next 10 days. That's the final dosage increase for a long time and if I don't see regrowth in 6-7 months afterwards, I'll up it to 3.75mg.
>>18647151Take oral min
>>18645124lmao this is so common. and there is no style that works with a norwood so you just have to go short or be julian sands I guess
>>18647321>and there is no style that works with a norwoodplenty of styles work with nw2just cover your temples with hair flowing down the sides
Am I being scammed? Will my dick die? I use Atomoxetine Hydrochloride, will my dick die? Can I get still get shitfaced?
>>18647348>pic sidewaysI'm retarded
>>18647348go and find out
Just washed my hair with an egg yolk instead of shampoo. What did I think of it?
>>18647429Nice. I’ve been using hollandaise sauce. It works even better than mac and cheese.
>>18647430Fuck, made my spit coffee on my monitor
>>18647321Julian has more of a NW3, in NW2 the forelock is still strong and near its juvenile position horizontally but the temples are gone.
8 months on finasteride now. My hair has not gotten worse but I don’t think it has gotten any better. Just a crumb of regrowth is all I ask.
>>18647489If you have nothing but maintenance after 12-24 months, consider dutasteride or topical minoxidil. Oral minoxidil is about to get a slow release version (VDPHL01) that eliminates the heart side effects so maybe in 24 months that will be around and we can use crazy doses like 20mg and see what that does.
>>18647490>Oral minoxidil is about to get a slow release version (VDPHL01) that eliminates the heart side effects so maybe in 24 months that will be aroundWill I be able to buy a 6 month supply of it for $18 at costco though?
>>18647490Most get hypertrichosis at and exceeding 5mg. I wouldn't want to touch 20mg lol
>>18647479that's norwood 1.5 actuallyonly slightl temple recessionnobody's templates angle outward not even a 12 year old's
Are 5+ years only on finasteride posts who say they continue to see improvements true?2.5 years in so far, is there hope for even more gains for me down the line or just maintaining? Don't get me wrong I'm already very grateful for what fin did, reversed about 2 years of balding for me if not more, but it would be amazing if I could regain my juvie hairline while at it.
>>18647691Both the Japanese and Italian 10 year studies on long term fin use showed improvement even after 10 years, but it depends on your norwood class when starting. This is my own speculation, but I feel the key in people who respond really well is their proximity to their "unreceded" selves. If a guy starts fin only 1 year after he noticed loss and is NW2, he could conceivably go back to his juvenile hairline. A guy who is NW3+ and 10 years out from his juvenile hairline is probably going back to a NW2 at best, as the follicles where his juvenile hairline used to be are completely slick bald like the middle of your forehead. But the most important part is staying on treatment. Even Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt, who had their juvenile hairlines well into their 40s, are now are at NW2.
>>18647696That's what sucks the most about diffuse thinning. I never really noticed I was balding until it's gotten really bad and already lost significant density. Temple recession and to a lesser extent crown thinning are more easily noticeable and therefore preventable (and potentially reversible) with fin.
>>18647342>plenty of stylesyou mean one? parted down the middle? I can't think of a single other long hair style that's gonna hide your NW2>>18647479that's barely a NW2 m8
>>18647490Except for us Europoors. I’m actually more interested in sublingual oral minoxidil (SAM-002) but again, highly unlikely they will ever release it here because phase 3 trials must include the pill to be halal
>>18647948what's stopping you from low dosing topical min orally twice a day/
>>18647949I’ve got a prescription for oral min to begin with. Never heard about drinking topical min, does it have any advantages over oral minoxidil tablets?
>>18647955>advantagesit's OTC basically everywhere and much cheaper, in many countries, getting oral min is basically impossible
Has anyone here experience with Bimatoprost against hairloss?
>>18638327>I stopped shampooing because my hair would fall outShampoo didn't cause your hair to fall out. You are simply washing off the dead hairs that had already fallen out before you got in the shower.
>>18638327>>18639709You're thinning because of DHT no shampoo is gonna help that
>>18644016>4 drops is equal to 5mgthe 5% solutions are w/v isn't it then 50mg/ml ? Given that a dropper has 20 drops that would make it 2.5mg per drop.
>>18648634Depends on your dropper. The standard one that comes with Kirkland brand and others is 1.25/1.33mg per drop which most people would have.
>>18648660you should measure out your own dropper, I got anywhere between 35 and 40 drops per 1ml so I averaged to 38, 1.31mg per drop.
>>18648664I already have which I why I gave the range of dosages I've measured out.
>>18648665This should help people identify their dropper
>>18648672Ohhh thank you anon I do have the one on the right. So I am probably getting 1.25mg per drop I am >>18648634 btw
can't believe nogsim 6 is going to come out before this. literally bullshit.
>>18640456What causes it then? I'm trying to figure out where I got the gene from. Dad still has good hair in his 50s. Maternal grandad didn't start losing hair until 40s. If it means anything my loss started like 2 months after I worked graveyard shift. Considering quitting it honestly, but I need money and the 2 derms I went to told me I had AGA.
>>18648715https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmoX7q_psVIIt's probably not going to be that good anyway, and even the guy from haircafe thinks the same still.
>>18648722My hair loss started while working a graveyard shift too, quit that job immediately.
decided to finally get on oral fina+min, how much does it tank your libido actually? kinda hoping it brings it down a lot because doing something other than gooning sounds nice, but i'm not ready for shaolin monk-tier abstinence.
>>18649018You might notice something for the first few weeks if you psyche yourself up enough beforehand
>>18648672actually bothered to count and my dropper look exactly like the one on the right and actually has 30 drops per ml meaning that I am getting 1.67mg/drop (which is a very inconvenient number)
>>18649197There is a bit of technique required depending on how much pressure you are using. You can get to the 40 range by using mostly gravity and very slight pressure on the rubber part.
>>18638290anyone else tried minox + fin topically ?
>>18649018It had no impact on mine at all. I was a bit lethargic and depressed around the time I started, so my libido was less than it usually is. Some days later my mood picked back up and i was back to masturbating 2-3 times a day.
>>18649215Too much of a hassle for me. Once you go oral you never wanna do topical, especially 2 times/day.
>>18649018I'm on dut and my libido and erection quality both increased, most days I wake up with morning wood like a teenager again. HOWEVER, my dick is a bit less sensitive, it takes more effort for me to ejaculate and I don't shoot ropes like I used to, the cum just kinda flows out of my tip. It is a bit of a letdown, but I don't mind much because 99% of the time I just creampie my gf.I'm jumping on a selenium + zinc + pygeum + lecithin stack to try to fix that though.
>>18649351i've been taking zinc, sunflower lecithin, d-aspartic acid, and l-tartrate for cum. it's working but i feel like the zinc and lecithin do the heavy lifting. try not to cum for a week or two when you start just to let sperm build up and your cumshots should be back to normal
>>18638290What do you guys think, 1 month using minoxidil
>>18649715Way too early check in 3 months. Ideally 6 months to a year and decide from there.
>>18649715what part of the body is this
