Thinking about trying a pair of Red Tornadoes. Can anyone confirm whether or not their slim fit fits over cowboy boots?
They dont
Which brands make good quality washed / faded denim? Im thinking RRL, levi's blue tab, orslow, full count, who else? Im looking for light or grey wash jeans.Bought a pair of nudies on sale and the whiskering looks like drawn on dogshit, picrel. Also the rad rufus cut is slim straight in case anyone cares.
>>18647817Why not just fade them yourself?
>>18647666They call me pigslim.>>18647817Who cares?
>>18647817RRL is the brand that I think has the most “natural” worn looking denim.
>>18647818I like having a rotation + Im looking for washed denim with fading that isnt natty attainable. The nudies I posted arent representative.>>18647824Thought so. thanks
japanese denim cowboy cut boots: where to find
>>18647817Fullcount has great looking faded denim. You should just fade them yourself though
>>18647852TCB working cat hero jeans. Basically Wrangler 13MWZ but with jap denim.
>>18647666i was one of the first english speakers who started talking about denim on the internet and i started the denim general on here. a lot of the posts that look like me spamming are actually the other guy just copy and pasting my posts from the archives to try to confuse people and make it look like i'm spamming. i drive a low miles excellent condition 1988 325is in a rare highly desired paint color. the m3 sucks ass on the street its a high strung 4 banger made for the track. my car's worth like 20-30k. its a car that makes pretty much everyone's top 10 list of best cars ever made. they're extremely reliable, fun to drive, beautiful and tasteful. the e30 is the most accomplished platform in motorsports history. poojeets like you do not understand class or taste because this is your first generation outside of abject poverty. and you don't know anything about cars whatsoever so you are easily impressed with stuff like an ipad in the dashboard. you literally out yourself as third world or a woman-like male who can't turn a wrench if you're not at least aware that its a highly sought-after collector car and i have a clean ass example.
>>18647987office workers wearing workwear is pure larp shit and everyone knows it even if they wont say it out loud you sit in a chair all day clicking boxes but you dress like youre about to weld something or fix a fence raw denim thats never been washed because its never been used boots that have never seen dirt just office carpet and a parking garage chore coats worn indoors like they give you +5 competence none of it does anything its just a costume to feel less pointless while answering emails that could vanish tomorrow and nothing would change. the tell is how precious they are about it real work clothes get destroyed and nobody gives a fuck office guys obsess over fades creases heritage and the story behind the fabric because the clothes are doing the heavy lifting their lives arent they dont want to work they want to look like work happened at some point thats why every piece comes with a paragraph explaining why its authentic if you need to explain it its already over. they also all dress the same while pretending theyre being individual selvedge denim white tee service boots beard watch repeat its npc uniform but theyll swear its personal expression because they swapped one japanese brand for another the clothes arent chosen theyre selected from a flowchart you follow so you can signal taste without risking looking weird thats why the fits are always safe and boring and why every deviation causes a panic post asking if its acceptable and the funniest part is how defensive it gets the second you point it out suddenly its about appreciation craft history respect for labor meanwhile the closest thing to labor theyve done all year is carrying a standing desk upstairs if the clothes actually mattered they wouldnt need the moral essay attached to them just wear your costume go to your meeting and stop pretending the jacket is doing anything other than making you feel less hollow for eight hours
Who makes a sanforized selvedge mid rise true straight leg? It seems like every straight leg pair I see is high rise.
>>18648153Iron Heart 634. You can buy it in their 14 oz denim if you don’t like heavy weight stuff
Check out TCB's instagram page for an endless goldmine of photos of faded 501 repros
>>18648292No thanks. Denim is gay.
Thoughts on pigslimmin?
>>18647987Good. Fuck those pedophile protecting fascists
Wrangler recentlyvreoeased a collection inspired by Stranger Things. I don't care about the show but it has a handful of cool retro pieces. I got the 13mwz in corduroy. Was looking for cords and seeing it's a 13mwz couldn't resist. Got if half off on sale. They're a bit thinner and lighter than I'd like, but whatever.
>>18649179Ehhhh, if I wanted some cords I would not opt for the wrangler cowboy aesthetic. I feel like corduroys should have some relaxation to them. A pair of 13MWZ is pretty tight in the ass and gives off the cowboy silhouette. Kind of a weird pairing
>>18649329Got them on my size and comparatively they're more relaxed in the ass/hips than my denim 13mwz. In my experience cords tend to stretch quite a bit with use, so it's less of an issue. Still looking for straight/relaxed cords with bootcut leg or a bit of flare and a thicker fabric, but these will do for the time being.
Favorite denim of all time? For me, it’s Warehouse Deadstock Blue
>>18649524Simons has some, djab house brand called relax fit
>>18650384Light wash 517
you can farm art hoes wearing straight leg wranglers and loafers in dive bars right now. its insane how easy the meta is.
>>18650417>Step 1: Move to west coast metropolis>Step 2: Grow mustache >Step 3: Do squats>Step 4: Put on 13mwz and go to barsIt really is not difficult. Even if you don't lift weights, those jeans were designed to make your ass look better than it actually is.
>>18650409homosexual hands typed this post
>>18650425i dont even do step 2 or 3 and it works
>>18650436>i dont even do step 2 or 3 and it worksUntil I cross your path
i really dont need anything other than 13mwz
I’m looking at a pair of raws (unwashed). Ending inseam should be around 32-32.5” if I go through with a hot soak. However, I’d prefer that the inseam not shrink that much as I usually like it around 33.5”. If I just do a cold soak, followed by regular cold washes and hang dries, should I expect there to be a continuous, incremental shrinkage of the inseam until it maxes out at 32”, or will the shrinkage max out around 33-33.5” inseam?
>>18650829I GO SICKO MODE
>>18649179Those high pockets look really weird
>>18647817RRL is probably the best of that group imo. Visvim also does great washes but they're 2x more expensive than RRL's most expensive jeans.
>>18650384Cuff looks so fucking ugly holy shit
>>18651995>omg cuffing!!!Pussy bitch
Anybody had any experiences with Red Tornado jeans?
>>18652686Yes. Pretty good for the price. Fabric is good and there's attention to detail on them.
Speaking of Red Tornado, where can I buy stuff from them aside from Amazon and AliExpress? I'm looking at their 11MJ jacket but they don't have them in my size on either site.
Anyone picking up a coverall for the spring? Thinking of going with either TCB or Big John.
Rant here. There are only 3 companies you need to pay attention to when buying a pair of jeans: Warehouse, Fullcount, and Sugarcane. There’s A LOT of great companies out there, but at the end of the day these 3 mog everyone. Do not spend a dime on a pair of samurai’s, iron hearts, onis, or any other millennial-core meme denim. All that shit is extremely gimmicky and will never be able to compete with the timelessness of the normal vintage repros made by the formerly mentioned brands. I spent the last 6 years cycling through a ton of jeans from a bunch of companies: Real McCoys, Samurai, IH, Freewheelers, etc.. Some of these brands undoubtedly make great jeans. None of them however really match up to the perfect balance of denim weight, texture, and color as well as the perfected cuts from Warehouse Fullcount and Sugarcane. IH’s cuts suck. Samurai’s denim is too textured and loud. Real McCoy’s denim is too boring and dull. Freewheeler’s denim is also a bit too textured and does not get soft enough. If there was one single pair of jeans you should buy, it would have to be narrowed down to a tie between:>Warehouse 1001xx Deadstock Blue>Sugarcane 1947These two just have everything balanced. Beautiful and balanced fades with the right amount of irregularity and texture, perfect taper ratio, perfect top block. Don’t spend too much time on finding the next cool pair of jeans. You’re not going to find anything better than these
>>18653866Wasn’t cotton stitching retroactively refuted by the superior polycotton(PBUH) threads though?
>>18647666So from the last thread, my Red Tornado 24MJZ. It's true to size, and everything I had hoped it would be. Solid fucking buy. I'll update it once I manage to fade it. I'm doing push-ups and pull-ups every day in it.
>>18653880If you’re only considering the thread material and nothing else, then yeah the soillennial tier brands would reign supreme. However, when you consider the cut and denim (the most important factors), the repros in the big picture completely mog them. Heavy weight denim brands with poly cotton stitching have relatively shit cuts, and even if they ended up making a perfect 40s-50s inspired 501 cut, they would have to contend with the fact that their denim exists within the uncanny valley of being too textured, heavyweight, loud. Repros from sugarcane or the Osaka 5 will eventually have some of the cotton thread wear away, but that’s what makes something more /fa/. An authentically worn piece of clothing that is unique to you. It also gives you the opportunity to repair in your own way and make it even more unique. This is the entire purpose of getting into raw denim; unique distress and fades
>>18653866How to get those beige/brown fades on jeans?
>>18653866>Warehouse 1001xx Deadstock BlueAbsolutely fucking disgusting.
>>18653902He’s wearing a raw unwashed pair you retard>>18653900Wear them regularly. Brands like warehouse and Fullcount are known for producing denim that fades more evenly. As long as you’re wearing them regularly and washing like once a month or two, you should be getting some beige undertones popping through the thighs and knees
>>18653911>He’s wearing a raw unwashed pair you retardNo, the shape is disgusting. What you just posted is also gross. Why the fuck would you wear a flight jacket over a denim jacket? Sorry, bro, but you have shit taste.
>>18653920>the shape is disgustingFirst time learning about raw loomstate? >conversation about jeans. Diverts attention to jackets Lmao
>>18653866SC1947s fit like ass though. The rear pockets are too big, too low, and too close on the inside corners. If you have any thigh at all, they'll cling around your legs, push the seat fabric up, and the pockets corners will basically direct all of that upwards push to the point just below the yoke, giving the trademark sugar cane pointy butt.Haven't tried warehouse, but the measurements on Self Edge make them look like jeans for twinks. Ill stick to my Samurai S510 and S3XXX, IH-1955, and Indigofera Kirks for nicer jeans.
>>18653923Sorry, bro. I saw the pics of dudes wearing them. They're gross, and so are you.
>>18647666Since we are on the topic of denim.Opinions on battle jackets/denims with patches?
>>18653924I have weightlifter thighs and own both the IH1955 and the s510xx. The 1001xx 1953 and 1954 have the perfect thigh width and top block for athletic physiques, it’s wider than the SC1947 and has more mobility. The IH1955 has a great top block, but the taper below the knee ruins the silhouette, and the denim is for millennials. The s510xx has a great silhouette, but the rise is too low, and again the denim is worn almost exclusively by limpwristed soillennials. You’re not entirely wrong about the sugarcanes, but I slightly disagree with how low you’ve described the backpockets to be.
>>18653926should get you lots of attention at the bath houses
>>18653926It’s gay. >”omg look at me, I heckin love shitty leftist punk and cringe metal bands!!!”All it does is make you look adolescent as well as attract retarded leftists with nothing going on in their lives. It’s the clothing equivalent of some queer they/them covering their Subaru or Prius in stickers. If you’re in your early 20s, go for it. Once you hit 30, do not wear battle vests/jackets
>>18653931Im 5'9 so the inseam and rise thing could be more of a challenge if youre taller. On the 1955 taper, since its all from the knee down, you can chop the hem to like 32" and end up with an ~8.5" opening which is fairly standard for a post 1950s Levis. And the 510 rise is on the lower end of wearable (11.5" on my kiwamis), but its not a jean Id tuck a shirt into anyway because the thigh is a little too slim relative to the waist to be comfortable when sized for a fitted top block.Regarding the SC1947, picrel is right before I donated my pair. Thats ~3mo of wear, 4 washes, and 2 hot dries. From the front they fit great but from the side you can see how, if the legs are fitted enough to support the top block even a little, the pockets push the yoke out away from the body. The issue is less pronounced when worn lower, but then why even pick a higher rise pant if Im just going to sag them?And re Warehouse, I may need to try them in person but the size chart isnt promising. Self Edge lists the tag 33 SC1947- the size im wearing in the pic- as having a 32" waist and 13" thigh. Those were already a little big in the waist when worn high. Meanwhile the closest 1001xx 1953 has a pre-soak measurement of 35" in the waist (ostensibly dropping to ~33" post soak) and a 12.25" thigh. Thats not getting over my hips.
>>18653920The shape is fine. The guy is just a subhuman who's wear a pair that's too big for him and in addition to that is sagging those high rise jeans down to his dick. If you don't want to wear high rise pants at your waist then don't buy high rise pants. Stick to mid or low rise. It's not only pointless and uncomfortable to sag high rise pants, it will also make your silhouette look weird and disproportionate.
>>18653948In my experience, Self Edge underestimates the thigh widths on their jeans. I always measure mine perpendicularly out from the crotch seam. With this standard, I’ve always found that Redcast Heritage and DC4 Berlin have the most accurate size charts to reference. Pic related our my 1001xx 1953 (right) and SC1947 (left), each size 34. The measurements are as follows:>1001xx: 13.4” thigh, 13” front rise, 16.8” back rise, 34” waist. >SC1947: 13.2” thigh, 12.5” front rise, 17” back rise, 34” waistA few other things to consider is that the warehouse DSB denim is VERY forgiving compared to the tighter, denser weave of sugarcane’s denim. If you’ve ever worn Fullcount’s denim, the DSB is basically as stretchy as that. Not sure how the 1001xx would fit on you since you prefer wearing the waist above your hips and I usually wear mine on my actual waist. The back yoke on the 1001xx is slightly shallower than the 1947s, and its back rise is a tiny bit shallower. Have you ever tried the Freewheelers 1951? Mine feel very similar to the 13MWZ. Nice roomy top block with a deep yoke. Rise is a tiny bit shallower than the 13MWZ, but the leg dimensions are almost exactly the same. Also, check out the TCB 30s
>>18653926Pure anti-fashion. You're either the kind of person who would not give a shit what anyone on this board thinks about how you dress or you're the most brain damaged retard imaginable.
>>18653952I look like this but with a Norwood 0 hairline. BOOOOOOSH
>>18653926Only works if the rest of the fit matches i.e. full metal punk or whatever subgenre. Lifestyle also has to match.
How can I improve my look?
>>18653926Got co-opted by trannies and rainbow hairs.
some insight for my big thighed friends: i went to my local shop to try on the iron heart 634 in 21oz superblack fade to grey, walked out with the n&f true guys because they fit my fatass much better. also tried on the freenote cloth modesto and those fit even better due to the higher rise but i wanted a slimmer leg unfortunately. i also had to size up to 36 for the IH, while the i was able to go TTS 33 on the true guys for a comfy fit
Iron Heart is full blown retarded. I want to like their jeans because their denim is quite nice and I really dig their arcuates, but my god they are completely incapable of making an unbastardized straight cut. >888 is mega tapered and gay>634's rise is ungodly low>1955 has perfect top block and then gets ruined by the unnecessarily high degree of taper below the kneeThey're apparently going to be releasing an actual wide cut in March that will be exclusive to Iron Heart Germany, and then they will be incorporating it as a reoccurring cut for their other denims. If they produce it in one of their overdyed black denims, I would immediately purchase a pair. All of their other cuts are in some form designed to appeal to soillennials and gen x tech bros. Apparently they don't trust themselves enough to just produce a cut that would essentially be the leg dimension of the 634 but with any actual medium/high rise instead of the unnecessary low rise.
>>18654504Is this your blog or…? Denim is gay.
Anyone know if anywhere in Europe sells 13MWZ rigid? I can only find them available in the US, and plenty of places selling non-rigid 13MWZ variants. Or is the dark stone colour close enough for what I want?
>>18654789Sheplers isn't based in Europe but the shipping is like 18€ which is decent for US shipping. The rigid is also only 40€ there right now
>>18654789There's this account on vinted which sells them 60€ a piece. You can get the Blue Bell in Cooper on the webpage, which are similar -probably better- but for 130€.
>>18654808Thank you, very cool
Anyone tried the Japanese 13MWZ?
Denim noob here and a question for more fit bros.I'm 5'9, 188 pounds (33W) and have reasonably muscular legs, nothing disproportionate, just want my jeans to fit like pic related. I've looked at a few brands and interested in the following (Black):>The Blubaugh- Mid Rise Slim Straight Black Selvedge Jeans- 13.5 oz.>Wrangler 13MWZ original cowboy straight fit jeans>OrSlow Ivy Fit 107sHow would any of these fit? Some of you were shitting on the Iron Hearts, not sure what to make desu.I have a pair of Boss Delaware (34/32 bit loose) that fit really well, just looking for a different colored pair thats more cowboy aesthetic.If this gets too annoying I might just go for the:Diesel regular jeans 1985 larkee>>18655414Also interested
What's the best affordable type 2 denim jacket? I'm willing to spend up to 200 or so bucks on a good one. I was thinking of trying bronson MFG but they have polyester in it so that's a no go
>>18655432>33WFat fuck.
>>18653898Is this shitty fit supposed to look good? Lmao
>>18655432I'm 27 pounds lighter and wear the same waist size how is this possible
>>1865543213MWZ will give you that fit
>>18655670Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you have Klinefelter syndrome.
>>18655666Name five things wrong with it
>>18655688It’s the faggot resident troll. He’s says blatantly retarded shit to get engagement
>>18655694Take your meds schizo.
>>18655701lol I’m not pigslim you fucking retard. Your posting style is very predictable though
>>1865543213MWZ is going to be the most representative of those photos. If you want a similar-fitting Japan made 501, check out Freewheelers 1951. Since you’re short and stalky, you’re going to want to stay away from wide cuts, that shit will ruin your proportions and make you look even more short. Stick to normal straight with a balanced taper. Keep in mind that if you wear size 33 in American brands, most Japanese brands will end up being size 34 for a comparable waste dimension. Always refer to size charts https://www.the-klamp.jp/product/3071
>>18655703Who’s pigslim?
Just bought a 3sixteen jacket. Fuck ICE.
>>18655741Bro she isn’t thinking of you
>>18655743Why are you protecting pedophiles?
>>18655745>wants illegal immigrants deported>”omg why do you like pedophiles?!?!?”Lmao
>>18655792You literally worship the pedophile in chief.
>>18655802Trump is a faggot traitor to the Jew. Your brain is broken and yourself to be a blaring stereotype
>>18655803>Your brain is broken and yourself to be a blaring stereotype
>>18655804>denounced Trump>”ahhhhh!!! You like Trump!!!!”Your brain is eternally broken, it’s pathetic
>>18655806Gonna cry gay boy?
for other poorfag lurkers like me; i am very pleasantly surprised by j crew striaght fit '770'. it's like a higher waisted levis 513, more slim straight than true straight, but with a really nice fit in the yolk and seat. pretty common at goodwill.
>>18653973impressive, very nice
>>18655633TCB 50's jacket (when they restock it).
>>18653866>>Sugarcane 1947went into a Self Edge and tl;dr this is exactly what the clerk (who was actually really chill) told me
>>18655674I don't. Maybe that anon is built like the bad guy from despicable me
>>18655688The guy's short and the jeans leg/knee/hem opening very wide so he looks bottom heavy
>>18656057He’s 100% correct. You can spend years looking for the perfect pair of Japan made jeans when in reality the SC1947 will fit 90% of dudes, has the perfect leg silhouette, has the most well-balanced denim, and is actually made really well and durable even compared to a lot of Japan made stuff. I spent years wearing tons of different jeans when after all that time I put on the sugarcanes and realized they’re actually unbeatable
I got a levis 511 and that shit ripped in 4 months,even worse than when I used to buy stuff at zara or h&m
>>18656344Are nudie jeans any decent or do I actually have to go the route of meme japanese shit?
>>18656353I’ve never heard anything objectively bad about them, but they have the reputation of being the slim cut millennial core brand. Just browsed their pricing. For jeans that are $220, you might as well buy Japan made stuff for basically the same price since you’re going to be getting nicer denim. If you’re looking for a slim cut similar to the 511, check out>samurai s710>iron heart 777 or 666>resolute 710>freewheelers 1951>fullcount 1101, 1103, 1108
Does anyone make a reasonably priced cpo/shirtjacket with out paying iron heart prices?
Some call me pigslim.>>18656379Don’t care.>>18655903Faggot.>>18656468Yes, lots of brands.
>>18655745I dunno, why are you?
Just got a pair of Warehouse 1001xx 1954 from Lost & Found in Canada. Did an hour long cold soak and then machine wash to get all the shrink out. It's legitimately a perfect pair of jeans. Relaxed thigh, minimal leg taper, nice roomy top block. Better than the sugarcanes in my opinion
>>18653952>It's not only pointless and uncomfortable to sag high rise pants, it will also make your silhouette look weird and disproportionate.I have long legs, so wearing medium/high rise jeans on my actual waist balances my proportions. If you are however short, it would make sense to wear a pair of high rise above your hips
>>18656379The reason I'm considering nudie is because they have a store in my city and I dont like to buy jeans without trying them on.But thanks for the jap recs,theres like a heritage store 2 hours away from my house so I might check it out.
>>18656647You could always try on a pair of nudies you like and then record the dimensions to see if there are other jeans out there that would fit similarly
>>18656554>Faggot.What's your alternative?
