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Cowboy edition

What do I need to care for my boots?
>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)
>Horsehair brush ($10-15)
>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)
>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bick4/renovateur
>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP
>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest them

How do I deal with x stain?
>mud: allow it to dry then brush off
>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible
>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper
>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush

>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?
No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.
>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're good
no. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.
>Are Thursdays any good?
no.

Manufacturer Red Flags
>Luxury
>Bespoke
>Sustainable
>Vegan
>Unknown leather source
>Made in Chyna/Mexico/Indonesia

Boot Red Flags
>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)
>C*rk/C*lastic
>Zippers
>Non gusseted tongues
>Excessive/unnecessary seams
>Combination/mixed material heels

Boot Brands NO
>Turdsdays
>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters
>any Whatsapp makers in the far east
>Blkbrd

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>>18668670
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>>18673907
>two fairly long hikes
Where did he hike to? Walmart? Imagine being worried about a few surface scratches on your hiking boots
>picrel before and after taking care of my boots after a fairly standard hike
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>>18676014
Posted in the cowboy thread as well. Just bought my first pair of cowboy boots, Dan Post Milwaukee in brown. Got them for 100 eurodollars.
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Any boots as comfortable as White’s but without the retarded shape?
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>>18676017
white's has a lot of shapes, what shape do you hate? the potato shape of the mp boots? the shape of logger boots? the shape of their packer, rancher, pull on boots with the higher heel?
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>>18676015
Have you got more photos? Any pics of the Meindl Schlern/Bergell?
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>>18676028
Only hiking boots I have are the Meindl Perfekt, which are amazing for tough hikes and harsh weather conditions, built like fucking tanks and their weight reflects that. I'm considering buying a pair of Fracaps for easier hikes. Here's another pic of the Meindls after a long hike.
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>>18676017
Whites has so many shapes to choose from and will allow you to customize the last
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>>18676023
Why “potato shape” to describe the MP boots? I generally find their excessively rounded and bulging counter heels absolutely hideous and laughable. Too feminine, also. Not to mention the horrendous look of their abnormal welts. Pic related is what a pair of White’s usually looks like.
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>>18676023
I forgot to mention: you’re here 24/7 and you assume everyone is a newfag. You’re a fucking fag. Just answer my question and stop advertising for White’s you fucking shill.
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The MP is one of the best looking boots of all time, retards
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>>18676066
toebox is too flat
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>>18676069
Settle down, Ronald McDonald. Not everyone wants an ugly bump
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>>18676071
toe bump is sexy
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>>18676072
honk-honk
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>>18676072
It's not the bump that's so bad here it's the toe spring
Looks awful
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>>18676091
>>18676096
Well, they’re Red Shits, everyone knows what their quality is. Still better looking than these turds >>18676064
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>>18676101
I dunno man, I have 3 pairs of Red Wings with great quality. Probably gonna order their Pecos boot and then I'll have 4
No complaints from me
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>>18676102
Aren’t they super uncomfortable? I dig the looks overall but everyone says they’re a pain in the feet (hehe, nice pun)
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>>18676065
failed pattern recognition, you fucking faggot.
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>>18676105
Not in my experience. Uncomfortable how? To stand on for long periods? Rubbing heels or toes or something? Pinching?
My biggest gripe is Iron Rangers are really wide and the Moc Toes are really wide everywhere but the toes, which are super narrow
If you have the right feet for the last, they're fine
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>>18676112
> Uncomfortable how?
They say it’s hard to break them in, your feet will get bloody blisters and even after they soften up they can give you arch or heel pain if you wear them for long. Which makes perfect sense since they don’t have a fucking midsole.
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>>18676118
socks will make a bigger difference than midsole
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>>18676118
Loads of things don't have a midsole. Who cares? What does a midsole have to do with blisters on your feet?
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>>18676072
None of my RWs have that exaggerated toe spring. I use shoe trees and I beleive they help reducing or even preventing toe spring. Anyway, here's my experience with Red Wing
>Moc toe 875
Sole was a bit stiff the first day, after 2-3 days they became very comfortable. Probably the most comfortable boots I own for standing on them for hours straight.
>Iron Ranger 8111 old cork nitrile sole
Took a week of daily wear to be fully comfortable. The lack of midsole is very unforgiving regarding shock absortion. Have to wear thick socks with them if I want to spend a lot of time on my feet. Otherwise, the upper is very comfortable.
>Beckman old model
A pain in the ass. Not even fully comfortable yet. I think it's because the old beckmans had a very stiff leather. Should have gone half a size up.
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>>18676163
i think a lot of new people end up buying their sneaker sizes in IR which exaggerates the toe
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Remember when for about 5 years straight Stridewise said that cork filling was a "cork midsole"?
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>>18676127
> What does a midsole have to do with blisters on your feet?
Who said it has something to do with blisters on your feet? It makes a difference because it vastly improves the process of molding the whole sole (insole included) to the structure of your feet and the mechanics of your walk.
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>>18676188
Perhaps. I went a full size down from my sneaker size. Worked well for the IRs and the 875s. I think half a size down for the beckmans would have worked better than a full size.
I went half a size down for Trumans and they fit perfectly.
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these aren't boots but this seems like the best thread to ask... how do the soles look on these?
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>>18676252
test them by pushing in the center of the sole with your thumb. if you can feel them bend easily, it's time for a resole. if they don't flex or take a lot of pressure to push inward they are fine.
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>>18676261
it's a picture from ebay, but I'm leaning toward them being too beat up to be worth a purchase.
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>>18676272
only buy those if the plan is to resole them
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>in PNW
>like PNW boots and own several
>want some cowboy boots
>nigs makes PNW cowboy boots
>want to try them
>nigs
fuck, we need based Frank to rig up some cowboy patterns
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>>18676252
they don't look that badly worn, the edges are still rounded over from the factory, besides the front
the wear pattern is weird though, outside at the ball and inside at the side of the big toe, probably some extreme pronation going on and you'd feel that from the previous owner, so a resole would be necessary if you don't want to ruin your ankles
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>>18676261
Does this apply also to rubber soles?
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Who actually makes a good cowboy boot, with arch support and western heel, that are well built and from quality leather (I don't need gator or stingray or anything fancy just quality stuff)
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>>18676275
>>18676283
thanks for the help
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>>18676252
Those have plenty of life still in them
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>>18676281
There's something so soulless about these PNW brands making cowboy boots
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>>18676252
are they spongy? if its spongy then they're done
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but...why?
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>>18676361
Because reddit will buy them. Which is ironic because Vince hates reddit customers despite them being their biggest demographic
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>>18676361
There so cool and gay at the same time, people would punch you and they wont hold up.
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>but but but green outsoles are ugly...
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>>18676411
>jump cut spam
>wannabe cinematic pans but in 60 fps
>literally not a single shot over 1 full second long
holy fuck i hate nonwhites
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>>18676411
they are
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>>18676285
no, it only works for leather soles because the change in how they feel and flex is drastic.
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>>18676411
ugly and also extremely stupid
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>>18676411
that leather looks like shit
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>>18676411
this is one of the worst videos I've ever seen
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>>18676411
>get caught advertising by pretending its a review
they really aren't sending their best
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Best way to fix a loose end of a stitch? I really don't want to send a brand new pair back over a cosmetic "defect" so small, but they are 500e boots so.
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>>18676281
Wesco has cowboy boots too.
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>>18676533
ignite and press down on it
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Redpill me on fucking Wesco.
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>>18676540
the best looking engineers on the market
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>>18676543
Not a single engineer in the world wears those boots you fucking retard.
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>>18676537
These are least look cool
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>you HAVE to be a racer to drive an M series
>you HAVE to be vietnam soldier to wear the m65
>you HAVE to be a lazy french artist to wear chore coats
diagnosis: terminal autism, prescribed suicide for cure
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>>18676560
Leave the internet for a while you dumb redneck
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>>18676556
You know engineer boots got their name for TRAIN engineers, the ones that shoveled coal into a furnace, right?
They're not named after the dweeby STEMcel nerds
Goddamn you're a retard
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>>18676537
>>18676557
>flooding boots
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>>18676561
Oh, lil bro is MAD mad
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>>18676562
Ok Mr. Wesco Johnson.
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>>18676565
Post a live picture of your feet right now.
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>>18676566
cringe
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>>18676556
do you go up to people in the street and scream about how they're wearing a diving watch but they're not real divers or something
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>>18676560
>>18676562
>>18676572
lmao
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I love it when the troll comes to these threads because he tries so hard
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>>18676577
Have you tipped your fedora though?
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>>18676584
cringe
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>>18676562
>You know engineer boots got their name for TRAIN engineers, the ones that shoveled coal into a furnace, right?
Wrong, faggot. They were made for field engineers.
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>>18676564
>>flooding boots
What did he mean by this?
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>>18676620
just kill yourself already anon, no one cares
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>>18676639
he means a woman's vagina get flooded any time they see a man in those boots
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>>18676639
flood light I imagine
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>>18676644
Stay mad and stupid.
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I've come to the conclusion that the 875 is just not a good fit for my feet
Just slightly too wide while also too narrow up front. If I were to size down a half and go up a width they would still be too narrow up front while also being possibly too short
I think I might try the 1907 which everything I've read suggests would be a better fit, but is a lot uglier
Any other good moc toes? Might go for the Whites Perry. I know my perfect size in Whites MPs, are they the same?
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>>18676699
You can also try going up a size and more narrow
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>>18676709
I have considered that but I think it would be too long and the ball of my feet would not be in the widest part. Also I have narrow ankles so I think the heel would be too wide
Again, some boots just aren't a match for certain feet and I think the Moc Toes aren't for me
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>>18676014
Hi, greetings from Norway. Here's my pair of whites farmer ranchers. Bit the bullet and got them back in December, paid over 1k usd all in all. Received them in march. Pricey and maybe borderline retarded as a blind purchase, but I've seldom been rational in my decisions. Got them in size 10 EE, red dog leather. They're half a size too big. Could've been worse (a lot, tbhfamalam). And my left foot is smaller so the facings are closer together on that boot. I'll mitigate the fitment issues by getting some pieces of red brown leather, making thick full length kilties and wearing thick socks. On day 4 I wore them out on a 4hr 6km hike in forest, snow, ice and bog. Pic rel is the aftermath. Got no blisters or sore spots, so I guess the fit is good enough. Halfway I went through the snow and plunged my foot into water, soaking it in the process. My autistic brain didnt like the asymmetry so I went back and plunged the other one, soaking it too. Dried them afterwards for over a day, stuffing them with paper towels. I guess the imperfect fit makes the barrier a little lower for just using them for their intended purpose, since I don't care as much. Now I'll start saving up asap for another pair, and this time I'll pull out all the stops and make a custom pair together with whites for my malformed feet (wide forefoot, microscopically small heel and left/right size difference). While waiting for the whites I copped a pair of barely used rw blacksmiths in size 10D, but that's a story for another day. They fit like a glove, but give me issues with my peroneal tendon on my right foot for some reason. The whites don't.
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>>18676731
> Halfway I went through the snow and plunged my foot into water, soaking it in the process. My autistic brain didnt like the asymmetry so I went back and plunged the other one, soaking it too.
kek’d
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About to pull the trigger on the Pecos
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>>18676752
You know the insole is foam right?
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>>18676757
Filthy lies
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>>18676014
>>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?
>No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.
So what is the alternative supposed to be for that style of boot?
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>>18676757
i literally do not know what model Rose AnShill got that had a foam insole when he cut it open, but the current models all have leather
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>>18676770
>So what is the alternative supposed to be for that style of boot?
growing up
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>>18676765
>>18676774
You can find old photos of old models but the current model does have foam.
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>>18676774
>>18676765
Form the Redwings website itself.
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>>18676781
>>18676782
You’re being retarded. That’s the sock liner.
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>>18676785
If you don't care about the foam that is your choice but you're wrong.
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>>18676787
Someone needs to educate you on ai. It tells you whatever it thinks you want to hear. Not the truth
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>>18676781
>>18676787
>>18676788
does this retard not know how sock liners work?
foam pads in socks liners is not an issue and not something i care about if the actual insole is leather
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>>18676793
He thinks the cut apart boot picture on Red Wings own website is a conspiracy against him. His proof? AI.
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>>18676795
i hate sharing this website with braindead zoomers who lack any critical thinking ability whatsoever and reply on ai to get their opinions
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there are about 3 different models of pecos from red wing with different materials each.
the 8060 is the heritage line and it has a leather insole and all that stuff we'd expect
the 1132 supersole are a work boot in the real sense of the word and are cheaper and have the foam and a glued on sole. they're actual work boots
the 1155 nailseat is considered another actual work boot and is the tougher version of the 1132 and has a poron insole

all that to say, the heritage line peco has the leather insole and that's the one i'm gonna get
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>>18676781
>does it have a foam insole?
>"yes-but not in the way most people expect"
>"it's leather with padded sock liner"
>anon: "SEE I TOLD YOU IT HAS FOAM"
I know i share this thread with literal retards and zoomers but come guys, don't be retarded
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I heard you guys love high quality, hand crafted boots from the finest leathers
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>>18676828
>>18676411
can't stand this editing style
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>>18676831
It's bollywood inspired
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>but but but muh green outsoles...
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leather expert bros, can you tell me if this is real leather?
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>>18676584
Wh6 did you get ugly boots?
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>>18676752
Based post review
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>>18676731
Nice. I really like the farmer/rancher and think it's underappreciated.

>>18676798
Very good. I hope they fit well for you.

>>18676828
I like shrunken bison roughout, but the grain side is just too much for me. Even if the maker tries really hard to keep the grain pattern looking uniform, it still just doesn't look good.
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>>18676731
sexo
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One thing you never hear mentioned is how shoe trees aid and speed up the break in process due to how it pushes against the heel counter
In my experience shoe trees help the heel counter shape faster by giving it something to mold against even when it's not being worn
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>>18676847
>sandwich construction
unlikely to be good quality. if you cut the belt i'll bet you'll find a cardboard stiffener in there
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>>18677043
Because I like shit
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>>18677089
So basically that’s likely the case whenever there’s stitching?
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>>18677087
in my experience it's the opposite
if the shoe trees don't match your foot shape then it can make things worse
i have a pair of alden 990s that fit amazingly in the heels out of the box, it was the first dress(y) shoe that didn't give me blisters there, that's why i prefer boots generally
stored them in 3rd party shoe trees with a fully profiled heel, they are the right size and slide in without much effort, still after a year in storage it pushed out the heel counter and pinched it slightly at the top enough to rub my achilles tendon
sure you can sand down the wood to fit better, but you generally don't figure that out until it becomes an issue
i have given up on trees, i only put them in for cleaning+conditioning
if the maker doesn't offer lasted trees, then it's not meant to be stored with trees as far as i'm concerned
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>>18677103
>i have given up on trees
The importance of shoe trees is VASTLY overstated by people with an interest in you buying them such as brands trying to upsell and influencers with their branded ones
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>>18677103
I just use mine for moisute regulation and to help the vamp keep its shape a little better between wears.

I'll usually just slide the front in without setting the heel counter in place and it works fine
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Here's a pic of the farmer/rancher boots after about two and a half weeks. Love the patina I got on the toe area after postholing through hard snow/ice. I've also had them on for a few hours doing forestry work and they did pretty well. Now I wanna know how a proper logger heel with a full lug sole does.
These ones have the 4811 last and the arch is kinda high. But my feet have such high arches that it's barely perceptible to me at this point. Love the support it gives me though. So for the next pair I'm thinking about the 690 last. Guessing it'll be somewhat of a bastard child between the packer and smokejumper.
Does anyone here have experience with getting custom boots made with White's? From what I've heard they're better to work with than nigs or jks (albeit Frank's is probably the best bet still, but I'm already in the whites ecosystem at this point).
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>>18677149
>Does anyone here have experience with getting custom boots made with White's?
i got my horsehide and latigo pairs (pic related) through bakers, very smooth experience tho i only did minor adjustments like going with the perforated toe caps, rolled top, pull loops and then an extra inch of shaft height on the latigos, no changes to the lasts. kyle was even kind enough to throw the rolled top in without charge because i accidentally fat fingered when picking
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>>18677149
>Does anyone here have experience with getting custom boots made with White's?
Did a pair of MPs through Bakers a million years ago. Did their oiled smooth work leather instead of CXL, changed eyelet color and removed the stamped logo on the top
Just go through Bakers and it's super easy
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usually wear grungy/punk/crust type, trashy tshirts - baggy black weathered pants.

i'm in the market for some cowboy boots or western adjacent/modern style boots. not much of a boot guy so i'm open for suggestions if you see my vision. current daily drivers are some slip on steel toes i've had for at least 10 years so they need to be retired
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>>18677221
>i'm in the market for some cowboy boots or western adjacent/modern style boots.

How about engineer boots?
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>>18677224
i like those, any specific things i should look for in them when buying? any brand suggestions? preferably something i dont have to take care of like a puppy and just maintain over many years
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>>18677224
Are Addict Boots the same company as Addict Clothes? Because Addict Clothes makes amazing leather jackets
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>>18677228
>any brand suggestions?

Plenty of options really.
You can go with cheaper Chinese brands like Brake House and Crush on Retro. Brake House is cheap because they use local leather, while CoR is only a middle man. He buys from bootmakers in china.

Japan, Indonesia and India offers "mid-range" priced boots. They use American, European, and Japanese leathers. They're also made to order (MTO), so expect a minimum two month wait time.

>>18677244
Yup. Same company.
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>>18677103
imagine being this retarded
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>>18676584
shelf
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>>18676584
That shelf is so bad. I had to look at my own pair of Whites that are 8 years old to see how they compare and the shelf is nothing like this at all
When did Whites start doing this shit?
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What are some lightweight, everyday boots appropriate for an office setting? Tired of the dress sneaker meme and can't wear my heavy tryhard Whites with chinos
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Told you I was gonna get some Pecos
Also the insole is leather. Checkmate
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>>18677755
now to christen them with some fried chicken oil
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>>18677755
You know what you must do
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>>18677758
>>18677762
Um, why?
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I got a budget of 350, maybe 400. What sre my options for double monk straps (brown)? Willing to wait out for a sale cause I'm a cheapskate and not in a hurry
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Hmm shall I spend $200 on Dr Martens Chelsea boots or over $1000 on John Lofgren/Rolling Dub Trio/Viberg Chelsea boots?
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>>18677755
it's going to happen the chicken grease fairy will get you

nice boots
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>>18677636
alden unlined chukkas in a chocolate suede/roughout
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>>18676828
That’s literally a pair of Legendflex with a meme leather
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I’m so sick of the Iron Ranger aesthetic. It’s become NPC shit.
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>>18677755
Any pointers on sizing? I've been eyeing them for some time.
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>>18677848
I tried half size down like I wear in IRs and true to size and half down was best. Snug but not pinching
They're E width, keep that in mind
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>>18677844
No one is making you wear them, dumbass
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>>18677636
The answer would be Parkhurst if they didn't only stock the most ridiculous fucking colors
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>>18677916
I forget Parkhurst exists. What's the point now that they're just another made in Spain brand charging double what they used to?
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>>18677916
some of the colours are cool, very casual but cool
>>18677919
they're mad in spain now?
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>>18677933
Been made in Spain for a while now
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>>18677636
https://www.grantstoneshoes.com/products/diesel-boot-black-waxed-commander
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>>18677919
>What's the point now that they're just another made in Spain brand charging double what they used to?
desu the 602 rode the line between dressy and casual the best in its bracket
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>>18677972
It accomplished neither
If I want durable boots I don't want fudging on the welt. I don't care about "sleek, dressy lasts".
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>>18678000
Not everyone wants to larp
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>>18678037
Who's larping?
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>>18678000
I didn't ask what you wanted desu
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>>18678097
you sure seem to care though
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>>18677844
Woah dude you posting from 2017?
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>>18677916
park who?
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>>18676072
i hate tetsuya nomura
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I want the ultimate comfy boot
I'm thinking an engineer on a wedge sole
Who makes the best engineers, who uses the comfiest lasts (no cramped toeboxes), and who will give me a nice soft wedge?
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>>18678146
if you want the comfiest boot on the comfiest last that will not cramp your toes then the alden indy on the trubalance is the one you want
it's literally designed to be comfortable with the last shape, roomy toebox and thomas heel
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>>18676584
Victorian women's boots
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>>18678147
>over 700 bucks for some mass produced cxlslop
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>>18678185
>mass produced
alden is exclusively staffed by geriatrics with arthritis. they ain't mass producing anything
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Is it possible to dye the edges on a shitty plastic heelstack? I don’t know what’s going on with the two tone. I’d like to dye it in a dark brown like with fiebings.
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Being a boot enjoyer in leafland sucks lol.
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>>18678204
it probably won't penetrate properly and simply sit on top and flake off with wear

>>18678213
what's wrong chud don't want to pay dayton prices for canada west quality?
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>>18678204
Yeah, the polish will basically be like painting. It won't absorb past the surface though
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>>18678213
You Viberg, used to have Dayton (which was better than Viberg back in the day)
Do you have anything else?
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>>18678225
canada west out of winnipeg
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>>18678226
Heard of them. Didn't they start making Dayton's boots towards the end before they rebranded?
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>>18678232
dayton was selliing canada west boots under dayton name and prices yea
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Looking to get my first pair of boots, Chelseas specifically. Solovair is mentioned in the OP but how does /btg/ feel about Blundstones? Plan on eventually getting something in the $1000-$2000 range but I just want something cheaper and low maintenance right now. Plus they have retailers near me.
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>>18678248
>Plan on eventually getting something in the $1000-$2000 range
lol why
blundstones are fine to beat around in for a couple years
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>>18678250
Been looking through a bunch of boots and almost all of the ones I like and have no issues with are in that range.
When I move down, there are Blundstones with no GYW and that annoying visible logo, Solovairs with their ugly pull tabs and soles which I don't like, Doc Martens with the fake GYW and yellow stitching, etc etc.
I'm actually interested in https://addict-clothes-store.com/collections/addictboots but I'd prefer to be able to confirm the sizing in person.
Probably just gonna pick up some Blundstones this week.
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I'm also looking to get some first boots. How much should I modify Wilshires by Frank's? I want to get them in oiled latigo chestnut. I've only worn stuff by timberland
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>>18677913
>>18678111
Why so mad, brownoids?
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>>18676064
>>18676584
>>18676731
>this is what amerilards unironically deem the best boots in da world
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How do you guys feel about mink oil conditioner?
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>>18678346
Unnecesary in most cases. I mean, unless you really need to waterproof your boots. It will darken the leather a lot.
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>>18678346
Darkens too much. I'd rather use just about anything else
It's overkill for most people
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>>18678361
>>18678364
Ok sounds good. I own a pair of paratrooper meme boots and the bridge on the right foot randomly became more snug, I think from moisture. Is this something conditioner can fix and if so which one?
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>>18678367
>bridge
Are you referring to the vamp? The top part of the foot?
Anyway, conditioner could help as it relaxes the fibers but I think people are too quick to condition when it's not needed. You might just need to wear it more and let it stretch back out
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>>18678369
>vamp
Yeah that's it, the vamp of the boot, because I feel it across the bridge of my foot.
>I think people are too quick to condition when it's not needed.
Interesting, I thought I was slacking because I've never conditioned it, just boot polish.
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>>18678371
Most people over condition. Not saying they don't need conditioner every now and then, but it's less frequently than people realize. Once a year is usually good, and I typically do it after the winter
Reddit bugmen have this weird ritual they do where they condition it every week or so and end up rotting their leather and ruining their boots
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>>18678381
Sounds good, I think I'm just overthinking it. I'll wear em some more and see what happens.
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>>18678346
a lot of them contain little to no mink at all
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>>18678371
Which kind of polish? Lots of polishing creams already contain conditioner on them.
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>>18678420
this shit
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>>18678261
>How much should I modify Wilshires by Frank's?
as little as possible, just keep it simple
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https://x.com/skooookum/status/2039163415332065583
>Was at the Alden store today chatting with the salesman and he told me they're discontinuing the Leisure Hand Sewn line because one of their three remaining leatherworkers passed away. Quite sad.
Uhhh you have bought your indys, right anon?
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>>18678463
The issue is they sewed them by hand. But since Alden has no young employees and the ones they have are dying, they're switching to machine stitching it
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Alden will either go out of businesses or outsource
They are located in Massachusetts which is one of the most expensive states to live in. But they pay barely above minimum wage. They have no young workers. Everyone there is extremely old but bought their house when it was 100k so minimum wage is fine to them. But they cannot attract any new workers. No one will make shoes for $20/hr when the average home price in Massachusetts is $650k. But they will not increase wages because they will have to increase prices and they're already notoriously overpriced

A couple things will happen:
1. They keep dropping production and raising their prices to make up for it, pricing out anyone that would still buy their overpriced products
2. Shut down operations because they're no longer able to sustain their business with the workforce they have
3. Outsource manufacturing to China, Spain, Mexico, etc. destroying their brand's image and alienating their customer base

So what happens? What's the solution?
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>>18678463
https://x.com/skooookum/status/2039163819742593035
>Apparently they're going to continue making shell cordovan pairs, but only when a customer requests one from a brick-and-mortar store and for a markedly higher price
same info i got in february, the LHS is getting the "rare shell" treatment

>>18678469
probably nothing's going to change, they still sell really well despite everything and getting handsewns was difficult already for some time now
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>>18678469
Or just outsource a few styles to make them cheaper while keeping a 'made in the usa' line like everyone else.
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>>18678473
>the outsourced stuff is better quality and cheaper than the USA stuff
Every fucking time
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>>18678474
Name one time this has ever happened to boots
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>>18678475
Oak Street, Parkhurst
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>>18678438
I like how they look, so that was the intention. What about the material I mentioned?
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>>18678426
Yeah, that's enough.
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>>18678479
the w&c oiled latigo is a good choice
i would pick the tan over the chestnut, but it's up to you
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>White's Smoke Jumper + Semi Dress Last = Baker's Bounty Hunter. Our Bounty Hunter is a registered trademark and owned by Baker's Boots.
they trademarked the name now? are these people for real?
are bakers that assblasted people order the same config from whites directly or a boot on a different last and still call it bounty hunters?
this is so pointless and stupid, what do you even get out of this and how do you even enforce that trademark? sue random people on forums and reddit?

almost as silly as viberg trademarking the "service boot" and the "navvy boot", because they couldn't get navy boot
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>>18678503
>people order the same config from whites directly
last i checked whites tells you to go to bakers for the bounty hunters
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>>18678503
>what do you even get out of this
prevent nigs from stealing more of white's shit
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>>18678505
really? if i asked whites to make me a custom 350 cruiser, which would be the exact same thing as a bounty hunter by definition, they would tell me to go through bakers?
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So RM Williams no longer does leather insoles? Bummer. Talk about cucking out
Anyone that does chelseas like RM Williams? Their lasts are so good that's why I wanted a pair
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>>18678495
I want the darker brown for my color scheme. Last question though, I'm a major walker. I wouldn't walk in them for the rain, probably not if it's really hot, but they would see a lot of use. They can be beat to hell if I take care of them, right?
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>>18678517
Their production was brought back to Australia recently and their quality went up again so I'd do research on their website to see.
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>>18678469
The apron stitching is going to disappear, likely they'll go out of business, best case scenario they move to a cheaper place like the south.
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>>18678517
TLB have really nice lasts for chelsea's
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>>18678637
But are they durable and strong?
Chelseas are basically Australia's cowboy boots
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new lofgren engineers

thoughts?
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>>18678824
I want some engineers so bad
I've pretty much moved on from laces. It's either loafers, cowboy/roper boots and now I want some engineers
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USA veteran bros you can get good discounts, I got 10% off my last pair of Red Wings. Saved 40 bucks
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>>18678851
My local Red Wings store gives 10% off to anyone in a union, it's pretty nice.
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>>18678824
bazillion dollars for autistic rip-off of american boots? LMFAO no, I’m not retarded
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>>18678824
let me guess, you "need" more?
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>>18678921
Is it wanting more when you want something that costs over $200 less?
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>>18678921
A stack that's leather instead of plastic.
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Hey /btg/
Black or brown boots
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>>18678960
Depends on the kind of boot. Engineers? Black. Service boot style? Brown. Moc Toes style? Orange cowboy boots? Tan
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>>18678972
Shut the fuck up subhuman imbecile.
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>>18679067
Wipe your tears little bit h
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>>18678960
brown upper, black edging.
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>>18676281
Also PNW here, in an area East of the Cascades where western boots are pretty common, and I have a bunch of pairs. IDK about those PNW ones though, there's kind of an uncanny valley thing going on with them.

>>18676294
I really like my R. Watsons, top left in this pic. Handmade in Mexico with decent materials for a pretty reasonable price.
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>>18679189
>there's kind of an uncanny valley thing going on with them.
Yep, they look like they're trying to be something they're not. Too chunky and overbuilt, clearly designed by people used to making super tough work boots who don't know cowboy boots are sleek and sexy and
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I like nigs and cowboy boots but I wouldn’t buy nigs cowboy boots. They’re weird PNW boots that look western. I like how much lighter normal cowboy boots are on my feet compared to PNW loggers.



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