>type II trucker jacket editionGeneral discussion about denim, workwear and anericana.>>18676514
How old are you, OP? Be honest.
>>18687160Old enough to be your dad.
>Should denim jackets fall at, above, or below the belt line?Ideally at the belt line, give or take.
Type II jackets are pure sex
Alright guys, just got the new Sugarcane 2025 wide cuts. For big thighs and ass, skip out on the 1947s and just go with these. The waist band is tapered inward, so there’s no issues with the “beak butt” as far as I can tell, and the backpockets and yoke angle are positioned to really complement the ass. Tons of mobility. The denim has a relatively loose weave with some tasty prominent slubbing. I went with my same size as my 1947s, but the waist fits a tiny bit more snug relatively. However, it stretched out a little in less than a day and the top block feels absolutely perfect. If you’re interested, definitely jump on these now because it seems like they are being purchased fairly quickly and they aren’t expected to make as many of these as regularly as the 1947s
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>>18687202>>18687203Has a more early 40s style cut, curious...
I really want some white selvedge 5 pocket twill pants. NOT chinosAny good recs? Any the $250 and under range?
Are there any brands making 501 80s repros? I’m looking for something with a 12”+ rise that’s not as loose as a 50s cut
>>18687211Keep in mind that I have pretty large thighs and fill these out. If you’re a slim guy these are going to be quite wide. These definitely are a little bit wider than the Fullcount 0105
>>18687219How large are we talking about? I think I'm in the limbo of thighs so large they don't fit on slimmer cuts yet not large enough to make wide cuts look regular.
>>18687276I guess it depends on other factors. Are you short and stocky or fat? If so, I would avoid these jeans. If however you are either normal height to tall with a slim or athletic build then you’ll be able to pull these off as long as you generally know how to style differing silhouettes. If a short and stocky/guy were to put these on then it would make them look fatter and even shorter than they are
>>18687154Should be at the level where you can button the entire jacket and sit down without causing problems.
>>18687213Twill pants? All denim is twilled, either left or right handed.
Thoughts on these jeans? Any idea what brand it could be?
>>186872825'10 lift weights 210lbs Currently working on getting rid of a bit of pot belly. Want to get down to 200 and recomp.
>>18687324Hmmm idk man, it might not do your proportions any favor if you’re pretty bulky. I feel like dudes of your physique look best with a normal classic straight with a moderate level of taper. I’m 6’1” 185 pounds and these sugarcanes look pretty balanced on me, but you’re definitely bulkier than me
>>18687334>classic straight with a moderate level of taper.Any suggestions? So far everything is either too tapered or not tapered enough and I end up with sails under the knee. Side note: even though high waist is the current meta, anything with a true high waist makes my proportions look weird. The best fitting jeans regarding rise height I own are those who go just under my belly button. Like the 13mwz for reference.
>>18687336Personally I really dig the Freewheelers 1947. More thigh room than the 13MWZ with the right amount of taper. It looks like a perfect relaxed straight silhouette that has enough taper below the knee to where you aren’t going to have massive flaps at the hem. That said, there is not a single pair of jap denim that will make your ass look as good as the 13MWZ so you really ought to set your expectations straight. If you need an even higher rise, maybe check out Jelado 301xx, those will definitely go up to your belly button. What size 13MWZ are you?
>>18687337I've a couple pairs, one is 35, the other is a 36. The 36 fits noticeably looser tgan the 35. I size according to thigh rather tgan waust these days out of necessity. The 501 and similar won't go past mid quad on a 34. waist in the 13mwz. But I size those more on the thighs than waist out of necessity. Most jeans in a 34 won't go past mid quad. I also have a developed butt so I don't have trouble filling up jeans. But the pocket placement in lots of current production jeans is terrible.Just a week ago I got a vintage orange tab 615 and the fit is close to perfect, including the pocket placement.
>>186873045 pocket twill is the term usually meant to mean jeans that aren't made of contrasting white and blue warp and weft threads, or "denim" as we understand it
>>18687361If you prefer the looser feel of the 36, you'd probably like the Freewheelers 1947 or the Jelado 301. The Jelados have a high rise with a higher degree of taper below the knee, so they will be able to sit right below your belly button and the taper will look balanced once you hem them. They will likely have a closer thigh width to your 13mwz, whereas the Freewheelers will have a larger thigh width. It just depends on whether you're wanting more of a classic straight silhouette or more relaxed silhouette. Then again, you may want to just hold off on getting any jeans until you lose more weight?
>>18687361Shit I completely forgot to suggest the Omoto 815 as well. They're a relatively new brand, but the 815 cut looks pretty close to that 90s high rise big thigh jean with moderate taper. Just judging off the size charts, you'll likely have a rise very comparable to the 13mwz but with more thigh width and enough taper to not make your hems flap around too much
>>18687370>Then again, you may want to just hold off on getting any jeans until you lose more weight?Yes, I'm putting off getting new jeans until I get my waist down to my target weight and circumference.At least expensive ones. I've been getting vintage Levis and Wranglers for very cheap off of apps and while it's been a hit or miss, managed to find a few gems here and there. I'm looking for the perfect pair of jeans, the one with the fit, shilouette and mobility that's just right. So far the 13mwz is the closest thing, while still not 100% perfect. Otherwise I would have dropped the 200 the ask for tge blue bell edition with jap denim they launched this season and call it a day.
>>18687476>that picholy kek
>>18687155I just saw that movie last week. Fucked up. I wish those people didn't exist but they do.
>>18687487There's been a trend for the past 10-15 years that models do not wear the right size. It's impossible to know how pants would fit looking at the official websites. All fit the same on models. It's getting worse with AI generated images.>>18687499The real killers in which the story is based were way worse. More ruthless and bloodthirsty. There's also a mini series from 1993 starring Tim Roth as Charles Starwheather. More realistic to the actual evens and more grim in tone.
Fabricateurialist on instagram does short form reviews on clothing construction. mostly dress shirts so far but he's started to do denim with reviews on samurai, full count, and momotaro. momotaro appears to have the best construction/features while the other two seem to be cheaply made, mainly relying on the fabric and hardware
I got fucking hosed ordering some TCB jeans that didn't fit. Had to send them back to Japan and pay return shipping and duties. But I also had to pay customs to import them Ended up losing $88 as a result. Thank you Trump, very cool!
>>18687994>the other two seem to be cheaply madeIssue of pepro being repro. I do wonder what he'll say about IH if he ever get to those, comment section keeps telling him to.
>>18687994Samurai intentionally uses cotton thread and some vintage accurate materials so that they have some similarities to how vintage 501s age. I haven’t checked him out yet, but I’m not sure what the point is of making videos like that since people who buy a lot jap repro/heritage clothing actually desire “less optimal” specs for how they age and distress. I cannot stand momotaro’s denim and overall aesthetic, so I’ll be taking his word with a grain of salt
>>18688002How do you not know the right measurements for yourself? Why do you import pants without knowing the right measurements?
>>18688022I do know my measurements. I measured myself and my best fitting jeans and I made an educated guess on the correct size. Turned out they were way small I honestly think I'm done with Japanese brands. My next jeans will be Freenote Cloth
>>18688024I’ve literally never had this happen and I own probably 12 pairs of jap denim. Are you fat?
>>18688024Educated guess? You're supposed to check the sizing table for the garment provided by the manufacturer, they should note the error margin which should be about 1cm max, if it's way off then it's a defect and they should cover return shipping (or tell you to keep it) and send you a new pair for free.
With temperatures raising it's time to look at light wash jeans and park the darker shades for some time.Too bad they don't make stonewashed jeans like they did in the 90's *siip* yep, they ain't like they used to *lip smack*
You literally don't need any more than Levi's Premium
>>18688514Sure but I want iron heart 21oz serge blacks even if they cost 400 dollars for no other reason than IH charging a 100% up charge for foreigners.
>>18688517IH makes everything in Japan and then ships it to the UK where they do their global distribution and then ship it from the UK to their retail locations If you buy them in Japan they're supposedly way cheaper, like half the price or something
>>18688521Exactly, it's a giant mark up on foreigners. There's nothing real stopping them from shipping directly from Japan, they just have this setup for some reason.
>>18688523It's not like they can't have an English speaker live in Japan and do Giles' job there instead of the UK That's my biggest reason I've never owned a pair of IHs despite liking them. They simply cost too much mainly because of all their extra overhead that gets passed to the customer
>>18688521>>18688523>>18688531You can find Japanese eBay accounts selling their 634 cut for slightly cheaper than US retail
>>18688517>>18688521>>18688548>Iron Shart
>>18687537I watched it. Didn't need to be 3 hours long though. Must have been one of those "2 Night Television Event" TV movies. I miss that era though. I miss Randy Quaid too.
>>18688623>Must have been one of those "2 Night Television Event" TV movies.That's what "mini-series" meant back then. A 2-3 episode series that was basically a 3-4 hour long movie chopped in two or three pieces. It was a popular format back in the 80's and 90's, usually with bigger production value than your standard tv show but lesser than your average feature film. In a way it was the embryo of the prestige tv from the 00's.In that format my favorite is probably Jack the Ripper starring Michael Caine. Historical pieces or fictionalization of true crimes and shock stories were common in that format.We're a bit off-topic now, but who cares?
Bumping with some random japanese dude's TCB 30s
>>18687323Those are vintage Wranglers I think
>>18688747manlet
I want to get into higher quality denims. All I have is a Levi 511 that my wife got me. I've only ever worn the slim fits. Not sure where to start or to change the fit or not.
>>18688035I can guarantee at least half of your jeans don't fit you.
>>18688793NTA but I’m 6’1”
>>18688816Sounds like you’re projecting
Tomorrow morning I will put my iron sharts in the washer and dryer at the local laundromat
>>18688916Good luck fellaAre you trying to get them smaller?I washed my Mith Denim pair at 90 degrees celsius which worked. So maybe try just a hot wash first
>>18688975No, I just decided I’m tired of the meme and will launder them as I do with any other clothing item. They’re overdyed anyways, so there will be minimal shrinking.
>>18688980This idea that if you don't baby them and hand wash them and never ever dry them or they'll disintegrate and explode is hilarious
>>18688980>>18688985After doing this to a couple of my pairs and getting the inevitable permanent marbled creases, I always wash no spin and hang dry. You do you, but be prepared to get disgusting marble fades after throwing them in the dryer
What's a reasonable price to shorten a pair of jeans at a local tailor? I think I read 20 bucks or something, that true? Similarly, has anyone used Denim Therapy for hemming? How's the quality, is it really worth 35 dollars + tip?
>>18688999A chain stitch hem at self edge is $30. If you are spending more than that without even getting an authentic chain stitch, you are getting ripped off
>>18688996Inconsequential if you wash inside out
>>18689013No, you can still easily get marbled creases if you throw it in the dryer even if you go through all the precautionary steps of turning inside out, pulling out the creases after wash, etc.. I did all that shit to the two pairs I had decided to throw in the dyer on two separate occasions. Not saying it will definitely happen to you, but there’s a decent probability of it happening. After that, I decided no fucking chances of doing that again. I religiously wash cold inside out on no spin, then hang dry. People act like it’s some over the top way of washing your jeans, when in reality it’s so incredibly simple and not complicated
>>18689009Denim Therapy would be a proper chain stitch from what I can see (site's down). There's actually a discount because they're Gustin pants so I think it'll be cheaper then mailing to Self Edge. I'll keep Self Edge in mind as an option though.
>>18689018>religiouslyPsychosis experiencer detected, opinion disregarded
>>18688996ALWAYS wash and dry inside out! That gets rid of 90% of any ugly creases Also don't put them in the laundry with big cramped loads. The less you have in there the better as I've found it's usually them being cramped that causes the creases
How would you style a western denim shirt?i really like denim and chambray shirt in general, but i'm not sure what outfits i can use them in apart from having them mostly opened and paired with jeans.
>>1868899925 bucksCareful who you go to and read reviews. I've had tailors do really shitty work and either go too short, not short enough, do really sloppy stitching, etc. Just do your research first is all
>>18689031Thanks bro.
>>18689028Military trousers, fatigue pants, or even chinos. Always go for straight to relaxed cuts. Slim cut chinos look fucking awful
>>18689071yeah been looking for some chinos.what about layering on top?
>>18689074I always wear a white tee underneath all my buttoned shirts, but I’m sure you could also easily pull off a white tank under a western button snap shirt
>>18689027>ALWAYS wash and dry inside out!>and dryI think the drying process is not problematic for that. You can hang dry them in your shower box also if they’re not inside out. Inside out is indicated just for the washing part.
>>18688985Raw denim might shrink a lot of you wash it too hot.>>18688996>marblingDon't let them in the washing machine for long. Take them out as soon as the cycle ends.
>>18689076White tank under western shirt (buttoned, unbottoned, half buttoned) is a god-tier combo and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. No, you can't change my mind.
>>18689076>>18689094that`s my usual way to wear them. was curious if people has other ways to wear western shirts
>>18689107The only other way I could imagine is just wearing the shirt itself and keeping the upper 2-3 buttons undone to show your chest hair.
>>18689110figured as much. was getting ready this morning and tried to wear a sport coat over it and it just didn't work at all. felt like i was larping a character from Landman or Yellowstone
>>18689115Yeah, sometimes you gotta be careful with how larpy your outfit can be, especially with all the heritage repro style stuff. I love selvedge, boots, and other vintage reproduction pieces, but if I were to wear a pair of 1930s/40s jeans with a Type I jacket and engineer boots it would be a perfect example of the uncanny valley. However, if I wanted to incorporate a Type I jacket into a more natural looking modern style I could just wear a pair of chinos and sneakers and then layer the jacket with a hoodie. In your case, you could probably pull off the double denim thing with your western shirt, but you should probably be honest with yourself on whether you have the face and/or physique for that. If you don't it would be better to lean away from going overboard with the "western" aesthetic and lean more into a modern balance using the western shirt. Hence, pair it with chinos, fatigue pants, or any sort of military trouser
I been only wearing dickies and my sleepwear underneath to work for the past year.
Is it a good thing if your jeans make your ass look bigger?
>>18689342As long as your ass doesn't look as wide as your chest, it's fine. Women like a big round ass on men, because it indicates strong glutes, which you need to thrust while plapping.
Thinking of getting the RRL Straight One Wash, any opinion of them? I got told that they fade real good and I searched for something simple US made
>>18689342Generally yes, but it helps more if the jeans just improve the shape of the ass. Look for pairs that have relatively raise backpockets, medium/high to high rise, and a waist band that tapers inward toward the top of the jeans >>18689370Nigga this shit is basically a slim leg low rise abomination. Their East-West selvedge jean looks like a much better cut, but it’s $400. I’d go with something else honestly
Iron sharts before laundromat
>>18689506Post-washing machine w/ spin cycle and tumble drying
>>18689507Epic. They look less shit than before the wash.
I'm autistic and get annoyed by easily visible branding but I think I'm gonna pick up the Iron Heart IHJ-123 work jacketWish it had the red zigzag instead of the yellow "Iron Heart" letters
>>18689507Imagine tumble drying jeans. Just hang dry them, faggot. The spin cycle gets rid of 98% of the water. Tumble drying does nothing for the jeans besides fucking them up.
>>18689540>annoyed by easily visible branding
>>18689541>thinking an article of clothing originally designed as workwear is so fragile it can't survive even a drying machine
>>18689546Lots durable fabrics and materials are damaged by tumble drying.
>>18689546The thicker and more rigid the fabric, the easier it is to wear and tear at sharp edges and corners formed from folding and crumpling. Thinner fabrics behave like a fluid while tumble drying and absorb all the impact and friction. Thicker fabrics just get their material scraped off, like being rubbed with sandpaper.
>>18689507They got scruffed pretty bad.
>>18689591That’s just patina, friend
People who throw their jeans in the dryer do it literally just as a form of fake, performative masculinity.>”wow I’m so tuff that I’m signaling to everyone that I don’t care if I fuck up my $400 jeans in the dryer”
>>18689540just take a seam ripper to it you fucking autistic retard
>>18689545>>18689669Forgot to mention that I'm super autistic and prefer stuff in their original state most of the timeNatural aging doesn't count thoughAlso it'll make reselling harder if I ever decide to do that (never have)
Thats just cringetina, friendthats just pigslima, friend
I'm assembling a capsule wardrobe, should I get a 44 or 46 inch chest chambray/wabash shirt if my chest is around 41? I actually have no button up shirts on hand at all right now for reference.
>>18689760Typically you want to size the shirt to something similar to your chest circumference. If you have a circumference of around 41”, I’d go for size 42. This is typically the advice for people in between sizes, just size up. I’m chest circumference of 43” and usually go for size 44 in most tops whether that be shirts, sweaters, or jackets
>always wore type III denim jackets because I larped as Ryan Gosling from Drive for 10 years straight>now I have grown out of it and realized type II is the superior style and wish I didn't splurge on a PBJ jacket that I never wear
>>18689769I experienced the same thing kind of. My very first jap denim piece I bought was a 22 oz overdyed black Iron Heart Type III that I wore for like 3 years. I genuinely loved it and got some good compliments on it. Over time I realized the Type II has a much better cut. I don’t wear denim jackets anymore, so I have yet to buy one
>>18689772i've noticed within the selvedge and heritage community, the type III is the least popular style. type II and I are more popular with II being the most
>>18689767I've been a fat fuck for most of my life (recently dropped from a 45 inch chest to 41) wearing baggier stuff but I guess I'll try a 42 then. Weird, why does Google lead me to a bunch of stuff that says to add 4-6 inches? Don't tell me it has to do with vanity sizing in the west.
>>18689773Type III is the most popular amongst the Iron Heart aging millennial Gen X cult. Globally amongst all denim enthusiasts most people like the repro inspired stuff, so naturally the Type II is the most popular along with late 40s and early 50s 501 cuts.>>18689774If you still have a gut or have broad shoulders, maybe a 44 would be a better choice, but I just don’t really know. Do you have either of those things? It’s always best to just measure the shoulders and chest dimensions of your best fitting shirt and compare to the size charts
>>18689783>Type III is the most popular amongst the Iron Heart aging millennial Gen X cult.Type III is the most popular denim jacket, to the point that it is what most people picture when you say "denim jacket". Most people don't even know what a type I or II are, or even know there's 3 official types of denim jackets.I can't stand jackets without handwarmer pockets, so I'm basically struck with modified type III. Levis makes types I and II with pockets hidden in the side seams, but they rarely have a type II in a wash that doesn't suck.
>>18689788yeah, but i'm specifically talking about the heritage crowd. they tend to like type III the leastnormies are basically only aware of type III but they don't care about their clothes anyway
I was gonna get a Flat Head Type II since I have my hands in my pockets too often anyway but then I realized that's retarded and that I need handwarmer pockets
>>18689807Buy a military style jacket with handwarmer pockets instead. Styles much better with a pair of jeans. Color and fabric contrast makes a much better looking outfit
>>18689810As far as military style goes I have the early model M65 and MA-1 by Real McCoy's. Might get an N1 in the Autumn or Winter. Part of me wanted something that's more traditional and different from my usual when getting a denim jacket but man, buttons are just slow and inconvenient and the lack of handwarmer pockets on a jacket is too alien for me after all.
>>18689819Those are all great pieces. I own a couple Mccoys jackets, the N1 and CWU-7P, as well as the Buzz MA-1. Mccoys just makes the best shit, hard to describe. If you want a more cropped cut similar to a Type II but with hand pockets, I’d suggest the CWU-7P. Also, check out Freewheelers deck workers jacket. It’s basically an unlined A-2, but the cut is not really that cropped
>>18687155Make sure your denim matches your GT3 RS - or you will be laughed at. Gabi Moura is not rimming your ass if you drive a Corolla.
>>18689832possibly the most cringe thing i've ever seen
>>18689832If you are in LA check out Mister Freedom - he does all kinds of collabs with Sugar Cane; Railcar Fine Goods will made MTM for a little more.Little Joe Perez has Cherry LA and does collabs - did one with Wrangler. Devium is another company I like.Search for small local brands in your area.
I've begun to realize that my denim jacket might be a little too long for me. I don't wanna get a new one because my grandfather gave this one to me, its 'le vintage' and I've got a lot of patches I wanted to put on it. But I also want it to look good with higher rise pants. Sad. Fuck my 162 cm life :3
>>18687323Those are literally just Walmart Wranglers...
>>18689819You can always take a look at vintage wrangler jackets with a zipper. I think Red Tornado makes a decent repro. The pockets are angled a little bit weird so not really comfortable to walk around with your hands in them. Lee makes a harrintinesque jacket with a zipper and side pockets too. And some brands make true harringtons in denim. I've also seen type III jackets with zipper instead of buttons, but those are somewhat rare.Anyway, most denim jackets have like 5 buttons, nobody does the top button and they look better if you leave the bottom one undone. So that's just three buttons, not that much of a hassle.
>>18689965I have the Red Tornado repro and the pockets are shallow as fuck, can barely get your hands in there, and they won't fit a smartphone.
>>18689908Keep the grandfather jacket stored away as a family heirloom. Personally I wouldn’t want to wear that everyday and tear it apart as a result because of the sentimental value and inevitable increase in monetary value over time. Who knows, maybe you could sell that shit for like $50k some decades down the line
>>18689506>>18689507Yikes
Are you guys able to pull off things like influencers do or do they look cringe on you?
>>18687155The /fa/ sticky told me matching the colours of a denim jacket and jeans is bad
>>18690150Most of the western denim enthusiasts have no idea how to style in accordance with their actual lifestyle. There is no way that this guy does not work some high paying tech job. He does not have the genuine appearance or lifestyle to pull off a combination of 25 oz Iron Hearts and some $2.5k horsehide jacket. Maybe if he actually rode bikes he would be able to pull it off, but ultimately he looks uncanny in this photo because he has the low T face trying to fit into some hardass's outfit. It doesn't work. Guys who have this phenotype can still wear all the jap-made heritage stuff, but they have to wear pieces that actually reflect their lifestyle. If this guy works some desk job, he would be better off wearing mid weight (12-14 oz) 501 repros with some unassuming top like a plain colored tee, oxford button up, lightweight loopwheel crewneck/hoodie, etc.. Guys who get into the jap clothing stuff seem to have a hard learning curve of figuring out not only how to style according to their lifestyles to make it look authentic and natural, but also how to not incorporate too many statement pieces into their outfit. Think about guys like almostvintagestyle, he's always wearing a leather jacket with engineer boots and some crazy fedora. It looks awful because thats like 3 statement pieces in one fit. If instead you just wore a beat up pair of jeans, tennis shoes, a t shirt and then paired it with one statement piece jacket then it would look more natural. A statement piece and/or bright colors are like hot sauce. A little bit can really elevate your outfit, but adding too much will make it completely unpalatable and uncanny
>>18690045Then it is an accurate repro. That's the one thing keeping me from getting a 124mj or a repto thereof. You can't fit snything bigger than a keyring in the pockets, and they're so shallow and weirdly angled that I wonder why they are there in the first place. I like the look of the jacket a lot, but deep down I know I would end up not wearing it at all.
>>18690150absolute garbage-tier outfit
>>18690150This guy isn't pulling off shit he just looks like another fucking dork in cuffed jeans and an overpriced leather jacket.
>>18690177I do agree woth you with the addendum, or maybe caveat, that a lot of those influencers and enthusiasts would benefit from lifting weights as a surrogate of the lifestyle. Dressing like a rugged man when you look like anything heavier than a macbook would crush you is not a good look, no matter how good your pieces are or how much money you threw at your fit.People kept telling almosvintagestyle to lift weights, but he refused unaware of how ridiculous he looked being a pudgy skinnyfat manlet dressed like Indiana Jones.And I'm not advocating turning oneself into a hulking mass of muscles, but these styles work well if you look like you can take a punch and deliver another one, so to speak.
>>18690150>jeans barely faded>fly flap has lost almost all the indigoDoes he just sit around rubbing his cock all day or something?
>>18690150It's impossible to look cool with glasses. At least this style
>>18690186Yeah I’d agree, lifting weights will help to some degree. However, lifting weights is not going to fix one’s face, and it won’t change your lifestyle, two of the things I would say are more important factors to consider when coordinating your wardrobe. I think if you have an active lifestyle or ride bikes, you can pull this style off not even being buff or even having a chiseled jawline
>>18690190yeah lose a lot of weight so that your cheeks begin to sink in, grow out your hair and get a pair of slightly bronze shaded ray bans.
>>18690187Chaffing against the desktop, probably.>>18690192That's whu I said surrogate. As in the second best thing. Anyway, someone into rugged wear, should at least try to live a more active life. From riding bikes to practice sports to lifting weights... engaging physically with something once in a while.
What does a 20oz loopwheel T-shirt feel like lol, I was just gonna get 3 of TFH's 9oz loopwheel tees but I'm considering picking up a 20oz
>>18690219Just don't. That shit is going to look like a rigid object and will literally never drape properly. I've owned a bunch of nice loopwheeled tees from various jap brands, and literally nothing beats the Whitesville 2-packs. The cut is perfect, the color is made very well, and the fabric is just the right weight to properly drape and wear as a base layer under any button up shirt or hoodie without getting too hot or looking too bulky.
>>18690226collar*, not color
>>18690226>WhitesvilleHuh, they're loopwheeled? I'm reading different things. I don't have any loopwheel shirts or sweaters so I kinda wanted to get at least one just to see how it feels or if I could even notice any difference. But the value on those 2 packs is enticing.
>>18690226Any experience with Bronson shirts? I don't care about muh made in China I just want some thick shirts
>>18690235Yes, they're genuine loopwheeled. They get labeled as "tubular knit", but they are actually made using the old loopwheel machines. They aren't as textured as a lot of other loopwheel tees, but they are hard to beat with regards to overall value and the fit. If you want something loopwheeled, I'd go for a crewneck sweater or hoodie. The comfort from a loopwheeled sweatshirt is really fucking nice. Everyone will have their own preferences for fabric weight, but in my opinion you don't want to go over 12 oz for sweaters. Check out:>Real McCoys 10 oz loopwheel hoodie. They also produce a crewneck in the same fabric>Fullcount 3741-22 crewneck sweater. The cut on this is slightly cropped and looks very good
>>18690241Neat, I'll get them then. Was already looking at the RMC 10oz crewneck too.
>>18690163For the most part it is. Know the rules before you break them. If you're starting out completely black pants with a blue denim jacket is a timeless combo.
I don't get the seethe over Carhartt. Maybe my take is different because I actually wear workwear for work (former mechanic, now a machinist and occasionally weld) but everything cheaper I've tried is way lower quality and anything higher quality is way more expensive. (I used to like Kuhl but their pants are like $120 for the equivalent of a $75 Carhartt.) Everybody else I work with seems to have come to the same conclusion as well.
>>18690242I own the RMC hoodie. Its seriously so plush, you will not regret it. Would strongly recommend getting heather gray color since it will give you some color contrast that will not be too harsh and will be able to match with literally anything. I think of gray sweaters as a nice canvas to make any outfit. They're particularly nice to use as a base layer for a jacket
>>18690247The seethe is entirely over carhartt becoming a fashion brand and selling clothes to people who don't do manual laborer. YOu can just look at timberland boots to see what happens with brands that go down that route.
>>18690219They feel like really heavy hoodies in the shape of a t-shirt. Its all very gimmicky so the brand can claim to have the heaviest t-shirt in some specific category. They might be functional as a base layer for winter wear since it can allow you to wear a lighter jacket and still stay warm but there's better options for that like mesh shirts.
>>18690247People complain it's not made in USA mostly but the truth is they'd complain and wouldn't buy it if it was because made in USA is expensive
>>18690238I got a 9oz white T shirt from Bronson and it's been great, super smooth and just the right weight, would recommend.
>>18688521Just looked it up, the 14oz is just $150 usd. Gotta hit a store up in Japan then.
>>18690465If you’re looking for 14 oz jeans, there are so many better pairs out there than iron hearts. Their cuts are dogshit, and the denim is soulless. If you must have iron heart, there’s no point in buying anything other than their 21 oz
>>18687323It's so nice to see that man checking his friend for ticks, as they are obviously outside in the grass having a picnic.
>>18690661What's wrong with the cuts? No buzzwords
>>18690256They've got a whole separate brand (Carhartt WIP) for the fashion shit, though, and they're still making all of the real workwear. It's hard for them to compromise that too much either because they do a lot of contract business with industry, like they supply Ford's factories. Also IMO they still just understand the needs of trade work better than other companies. They know where to put pockets, where stuff needs to be reinforced, how things should fit for the movements you actually need to do, etc. I'm worried that might erode if they pivot more toward fashion but so far that hasn't happened yet.>>18690342This one I get, but yeah, nobody BUT fashion larpers would pay the price for USA-made stuff. >>18690675Fuck, I just recently had that song stuck in my head for days, I guess we're doing that again.
>>18690720>634: leg width and taper is perfect for a classic straight cut, but the rise is unnecessarily low. This becomes uncomfortable if you have an ass and/or quads>888: Way too tapered. Marketed as a cut for dudes with big thighs, but the jeans fit like a slim cut>1955: Arguably their best cut, but they only produce it once every 2-3 years. Still has an unnecessarily high degree of taper below the knee. If you are shorter than 6’, these will look like an actual vintage 501 once you get them hemmed Iron Heart would arguably be the best denim company in the world if they didn’t make retarded, unnecessary modifications to the vintage 501 cuts. If they simply just increased the rise of their 634 cut by like 0.5-0.75 inches, it would be a 10/10. The cut is 100% the most important factor to consider when buying some jap raws. All of the standard repro companies make infinitely better jeans because the cuts are more ideal in the sense that they actually have room in the top block and the silhouette is not incorporating too much taper. If I were taking a trip to Japan, I’d visit:>Desolation Row to try on all the Freewheelers products>Hinoya for a massive selection of repro jeans and Toyo products like Hawaiian shirts and sugarcanes>Fullcount storefront
My god the stereotypes just write themselves https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6WgH3OAQdiA&pp=ygUWSXJvbiBoZWFydCAyMSBveiBmYWRlcw%3D%3D&ra=m
>>18690765All the other jap companies moved past making tapered cuts, why can’t iron heart?
>>18690787Probably something to do with the brand being very biker oriented in Japan. Taper is just practical for bikers.
>>18690787Take a look at 95-99% of their clientele. Aging millennials and Gen X, as well as fade enthusiasts in SE Asia that overwhelmingly gravitate toward the slim cuts like the 555 and 666. These guys cannot fathom putting on a pair of jeans that isn't some combination of low rise, high degree of taper, slim leg, etc.. IH can only produce a certain amount of their denim, and because of that in combination with the fact that they have a not-so-diverse support base, they cannot afford to do something vastly different than what they've been doing for the last 2 decades. You would think it would be a no-brainer to just make a straightforward high rise relaxed cut with a normal taper ratio, but their customers would be like, "I wish these just had a little more taper". IH is closer than you think to going bankrupt I think.
Have you guys ever had a pair of jeans that you were hesitant about at first but then grew slowly over time to be the best pair of jeans you ever wore?
>>18690747>Iron Heart would arguably be the best denim company in the world if they didn’t make retarded, unnecessary modifications to the vintage 501 cuts.Then buy fucking 501s you motherfucking RETARD.
>>18690787>Iron ShartYou can't read?
>>18690865Yeah, that’s what I do. Are you okay?
>>18690810Not really bit for me it goes like this more often than not>spend weeks or maybe even months looking for the perfect example of an item I want>ends up being sorta dissapointing and don't eear it that much>see something that looks nice, practical and is cheap or discounted>item ends up surpassing expectatives and joins my favorites list
>>18690888What were the jeans? I went through a stupid amount of jeans until I ended up wearing 1 pair more than anything. I impulse bought some fullcounts a couple years ago and didn't really like them at first because they were wider than what I was used to. A year later I found myself reaching for them every day because they were just more comfortable than anything and they were probably the least gimmicky jeans in my warddrobe. I am going to start a grailed account this month and will be selling off like fucking 10 pairs of jeans lol
https://www.buckmason.com/products/white-toughknit-tubular-tee-2-packAnyone ever tried these?
>>18690918>dissapointing-LVC 505 1967. Back when I first tried to get into selvedge I got these. Loved how the looked in pictures, but the problems arose pretty soon. While they're high rise, the pockets sit too low and the mobility at the hip is almost non-existant. Tried several 505s over the years until finally coming tobterms with the fact that 505s are not for me.-Iron Heart 634 25oz. Originally I wanted a pair in 21oz to see what the fuss is about heavyweight denim. But someone was selling a barely used pair for cheap so I got them off him. If the rise was a mere inch higher these would be almost perfect. Yet this so close yet so far away vibe is annoying. Also the 25oz is a meme. Unnecesary, cumbersome, good for winter, though.>nice surprises-Uniqlo selvedge straight. Not the slim straight that's 2% elasthane. The straight that's 100% cotton. Rise is where I want it to be. Straight cut with plenty of mobility without being baggy. Just enough taper to not have huge flaps of fabric bellow the knee. A straight cut that looks tailored. All of that for about 50 bucks.-13mwz. Got them because they got shilled hard on this general. Very close to a perfect cut. Lots of mobility, built to last.-levis 615 orange tab from the 90's. Got them for ten bucks. The waist curves to the inside for a tight fit that doesn't require a belt. Top block is fitted and compliments the ass while still having plenty of mobility. A straight cut that yet looks tailored without an aggressive taper. Fabric is thick and construction is solid. Got them in black, now looking for different colors.
for me it's a SUPER slubby SUPER neppy mid (low) rise in an athletic cut (i'm fat so my legs are basically equivalent to muscular thighs)and yeah, i went for the tasteful 19 oz. back in the day jeans were actually a working man's garment, so that was a typical pre-fast-fashion weight
>>18691149I think and say this
Has anyone here bought denim from Bronson? I got their heavyweight T-shirts, and those are great.Considering the price, I might just try these out.
>>18691319They're "heritage" without the heritage but who really cares?
>>18691319Are they using USA made selvedge? That is fucking cheap for authentic selvedge
>>18691342Probably domestic Chinese selvedge. Everything about Bronson is Chinese
>>18691319How are their T-shirts?
>>18691355They are great. I got their tubular athletic T-shirt and short-sleeve henley. Both are around 10 oz. Fantastic quality for the price.
>>18691321>>18691350Is this “real” Selvedge, though? Like produced on shuttle looms?
>>18691382no more question. loom shuttle!
>>18691382Yes, just made in China.
w2c dark red horse leather jacket? pic rel is y'2 type 1 aniline horse
my winter work fit. Just broke and this is how I dress when its cold.
>>18691688What the fuck are those grandma shoes?
>>18691717Bruce Lee shoes cuz Im a hick that likes Kung Fu
>>18691688How are things in Argentina. Digg the fit, honestly.
I think I'm gonna get some Sugar Cane 1947 jeans
>>18692403Nice. Have you worn other jap selvedge? Wondering what you have as a reverence point for fit and if there’s any info we could relay for a good fit on the canes
>>18692536Momotaros, Freenote and Rogue Territory All of them were back when tapered was the thing but I don't like that kind of fit anymore
>>18692403Grow some ass. Cause you’re 100% gonna get a beak butt.
>>18692551shut the fuck up
>>18692549Okay, yeah it’s a good choice to get away from that shit. As long as you have those jeans or another pair that fits you in the waist, just measure the waist and try to find a pair of canes that are close to that. I think you’ll get more thigh room with the canes compared to the millennial taper cuts. A general rule of thumb is to size up once from American brands. One thing to note with the SC1947 is that although they are by and large enjoyed and heavily respected amongst not only repro enthusiasts but people just getting into jap denim, there are some people that do not like how the ass fits. There’s one guy on this general who incessantly calls it the “beak butt” where there’s a little extra fabric that pokes out at the bottom of the yoke stitching. If you have a fat ass it might not be so dramatic, but you may not really care about that at all. Everyone’s mileage is different and it just comes down to preference. I personally prefer having extra fabric in the seat and rise so that there’s more breathability and freedom of movement, but you may be someone who is hyper autistic about having the “perfect” fit on the ass. Generally, it’s pretty hard to find a pair of jap made repros that don’t have some amount of extra fabric or slouch in the seat, but there are some out there that maybe other anons can attest to. I think someone mentioned the Resolute 711 as having a great fitting ass. If you want a wide leg repro with a great fitting ass, I’d recommend the newer Sugarcane 2025 jeans. All that said, I personally think the SC1947 is a super balanced, non gimmicky straight cut with a great silhouette and good build quality, and amongst like 90%+ of guys it will fit them great unless they have very large thighs
>>18692551>>18692578I tried SC 1947 in store and didn’t have any butt issues. Waist was a bit tight and the store didn’t have the two sizes up from that but doubt that the butt thing would be an issue. The butt area actually fit very well tho a bit tight >>18692403I copped a size up (from the one in store that I tried on) from online. I think (take this with a grain of salt) people should size up one from their usual. It’s one size up from my warehouse 1001xx
>>18692668>warehouse 1001xxDo you have the 1947 version or one of the 50s cuts? I fucking love the 1954 version. Also, the deadstock blue is probably my all time favorite denim
Does anyone have experience with SEA denim? Friend of mine is going on a holiday to Thailand and I'm thinking about asking him to get me some local raw denim. I've seen the brand Pinion floating around the web, but other than insta accounts of crazy fades I haven't found much info about it.
>>18692702I always see IG posts of Pinion as well as Old Blue. The Indonesians are also very much into denim and leather. Can’t say I have experience with any of them, but if you’re into high contrast fading that seems to be their specialty
>>18692702Thailand and Indonesia have really big selvedge scenes with loads of domestic brands using japanese selvedge
>>18692704I think their penchant for high contrast fades might be due to the SEA climate being so favpurable to them. >>18692706Appatently getting those brands online internationally is a pain the ass, but from what I heard they make really good denim for cheap.
>>18687323sauce?
>>18692702My experience is that I've seen a lot of stuff I've wanted and wasn't able to get because it was only available through facebook market place or in a very skinny cut. There's brands like soso which are made in thailand but I don't know if I'd call it a SEA brand since its based out of Sweden. I got their 33oz jacket and its got the typical minor issues like loose threads but also things like button caps falling off. I can't say if its me using the jacket too hard, the YKK hardware being shit or there being something wrong with how they put the caps on, but I can't see a good reason why the back singe buttons should just fall off for no apparent reason.
>>18692720This sort of experience is why I just buy the Japanese shit. $200-300 on a pair of jeans in my opinion is not really a huge thing to make a fuss over, and I literally never have to worry about any QC issues as 99% of the stuff they make over there is essentially flawless. There’s like hundreds of amazing companies in Japan, so choosing to go with some SEA company seems kind of pointless to me, especially that now we have to pay tariffs on literally everything made overseas. If I was interested in getting a pair of handwelted veg tan horsehide boots, I’d consider looking at Indonesian companies since they are significantly less expensive than their Japanese counterparts, but the relatively small difference in price for denim doesn’t really make it seem worth it
>>18692726Yeah I think a lot of people are caught on the "thing, japan = :O" meme but overall Japan genuinely has fantastic quality control and the price difference is typically due to some Japanese guy sitting at his machine and being autistic about replacing some part or tightening a bolt that he knows unwinds for every 500 part he makes rather than every 5000 part he makes. People often want it to be obvious what the value add in but "the button caps doesn't fall off for 20 years" is not an obvious value add.
Meh. None of you ever checked out vintage Italian raw denim. Same quality as Japanese shit but no retarded mythical narrative to push it forward.>le osaka five ;DImagine falling for literal marketing journalism.
>>18692726>seems kind of pointless to me, especially that now we have to pay tariffs on literally everything made overseas.Here's thething: my friend is going there and can get me something in his luggage, no tariffs, no shipping. I though this might be a chance to try some of that denim. I've heard about it before but never considered getting anything before. It's just that the opportunity arose bypassing tariffs and the hassle of buying from ig accounts.
>>18692733Which brands should we be checking out?
>>18692733I’m genuinely satisfied with wearing jap repros. Also, who gives a fuck about “narrative”? If the product is what I’m looking for and it’s made flawlessly then I’m going to buy it. Only sois get into the whole gimmicky Japanese iconography shit that really only exists in a super explicit way with companies like Samurai and Oni.
>>18692733>None of you ever checked out vintage Italian raw denim.yeah because we're not interested in digging through bags of smelly pants to find the occasional gem. Obviously the button caps of a 50 year old jacket will stay on another 10 years if its lived that long.
>>18692729Yeah, it’s definitely not apparent what the value is with the Japanese clothing. The way I think of it is that not only does the denim and cuts do a great job at mimicking the vintage 501s, but you’re going to be hard pressed to find anything wrong with the QC. On top of that, you’re not really supporting unethical labor on a large scale. So it’s like buying something with a 99.9% guarantee that it will be a solid build and that is not derived from underpaid slaves
yeah
>>18692742Its not even just clothing. Japan has had a very developed economy with high wages for ages and ages now. If you're a Japanese brand and you want to sell a mass produced item like jeans, you have to justify the price tag. They do the same with all sorts of things. Sony sells a tons of shit at a loss and bleeds money because they insist on insane levels of QC on everything. Occasionally it works out for them like the Playstation, other times they sell every Bravia LCD at a loss.
>>18692702I'm wearing a pair of Simple & Raw 25oz, they're pretty premium feeling for their permanent on sale price, although I'd recommend a more resonable denim weight like ~18oz
I want some high waisted straight repros that make my ass look good. What should I get?
>>18692794Jelado 301, Flat Head 3004, Sugarcane 2025. Personally I found the Sugarcane 2025 to complement the ass the best, but it’s a wide leg
>>18692685It’s the 1947 version. It has the most interesting fabric though I’m still new to the whole denim thing
>>18692814Warehouse's deadstock blue denim is probably the most perfect repro denim I've ever worn. So comfortable, plenty of stretch, the texture is very noticeable but its not over the top, and the specific shade of indigo is the most beautiful
>>18691319i bought them and their henley recently but they smelled like china so i returned them
>>18692738>who gives a fuck about “narrative”?What I’m saying is pretty clear. Japanese denim is mostly hype. Marketing narratives become v e r y relevant when you realize you’re leaving other production centres in shadow out of pure blindness, because what reaches your brain is only the artificial hype built around one reality. I’m not even implying you’re missing out on just Italian denim or vintage French stuff. Damn, even you amerilards are burying your own treasures into the fucking ground. Take Left Field NYC for example. Barely discussed in these godawful 20 IQ pathetic threads. And yet, they make better cuts than any fucking Japanese retarded brand of fucking Japan. >le slouchy redditor manlet shittily woven repro haha >with le shitty ww2 gimmick details haha. Jesus Christ fucking grow up. You’re almost 30 now.>>18692740t. has never heard of new old stock
>>18692782Yeah, SEAbrands seem pretty fond of 25oz denim. I'm not looking for that. I woukd consider 21oz the most heavyweight to go, but ideally 17-18oz. Wish I could go there myself. When I was younger I did Muay Thai for a bit and dreamed about train at a Thai camp at some point.
At the end of the day all we needed was APC NS and we've strayed from the vision
>>18692969>low rise>millennial taperNo thanks
>>18692794Omotoalso,>reproscuck
>>18692987You are going to learn to love it. The recent Yung lean song harkens a return to millenial aesthetics. Get in now or be left behind.
>>18692737Notice how this is the only post with no replies. Italian denim my ass, nobody could name even one
>>18692876Just shut the fuck up. Nobody cares
>omg muh Italian denim!! Ahhh muh Japanese selvedge beakbutt!!!
>>18692876My favorite pants are Italian Zara denim - thick perfectly faded soft denim. I watch these threads to laugh at how much money you retards pay to look like your shat your pants.
>>18692876Well, none of this can possibly be true, because Japan thing is superior because it's Japan thing.
>>18692876People pretending to be upset about irrelevant stuff is my favorite thing about 4chan No one cares, retard. And the owner of Left Field is a raging cuck with TDS. I unfollowed their page
>>18693049Why do you hate white people so much?
>>18693113they make shit jeans
>>18693118Valid
>>18693049American made clothing is always hit or miss. The designs are always:>boring heavyweight workwear fabrics >gimmicky workwear marketing and symbolism >boots are really robust and heavy with zero attention paid to finishing and cleanliness of stitching >sometimes sloppy stitching on any piece of clothing Not saying the American made stuff is inherently bad, but let’s be honest. Nobody is really beating Japan when it comes to QC, finishing, timeless design or autistic reproductions of the originals, and quality of the raw fabrics. There’s some very skilled tailors or bootmakers in the US or Europe, but you’re essentially going to be paying the same price as the Japan shit if you want a truly flawless piece with a beautiful design. Look at the American bootmakers. If you want an actual flawless pair of engineer boots with a superior design and top of the line leathers, you’re going to be spending $1500-2200 with guys like Role Club or Unsung House. If you don’t care about clean finishing and really high quality cuts of leather, you’ll be spending like $700-900 on some PNW dogshit
>>18693164I really like Freenote Cloth. They have a sort of vintage workwear meets western/cowboy meets streetwear sort of vibe that I really enjoy. And everything I've ever seen from them has been crazy high quality
>>18690241>>18690242>>18690251Update: I ordered and got a medium RMC 10oz loopwheel sweatshirt among some other things after being recommended to switch to medium from large by a rep but this thing is surprisingly tight. Or maybe I'm just too used to loose hoodies and sweatshirts since I've always wanted to hide my gut. Dunno if it's supposed to be like this when I look at the models wearing it.I'm a manlet fat fuck at 5'7'' 175 lbs still in the middle of losing weight so I'd imagine it'll get better but the current tightness in the chest, arms, and forearms is worrisome since I plan to recomp and get jacked. Why the hell is it like this when my chest has dropped to 40 inches, I've barely worked out a day in my life too.
>>18693169A size medium is going to be an equivalent to a chest size 40, or 40" in the chest circumference. If you think about it, its going to be a tight fit if you got something that fits exactly to your chest dimension. I am 6'1" 190 lbs with an athletic build and a 43" chest. I wear a size XL in their hoodies for a perfect fit, which equates to a size 44 (44" in the chest circumference). This gives me an extra inch of give in the chest. If you got a size large, it would be an equivalent to a chest size 42 which would actually give you some room to move around. I would honestly suggest trading it for that as soon as you can. If you plan on getting buff, your chest is going to remain 40" or even bump up to 41" depending on how much bench press you do
>>18693165>Freenote ClothThis is one exception I will make for American made. That said, you are still paying the same price for their stuff as you would for a japan made piece. On top of that a lot of their fabrics are shipped from Japan. It all comes out in the wash. You want something really flawless, you're going to pay more
>>18693188I went with the medium rec since they measured it to be 44'' in the chest, all the models taller than me wear a large that's just slightly smaller than a 49'' sweatshirt I have that's way too baggy on me now. I'll give it some thought since I still wanna get my BMI to "normal" levels first which is under 160lbs. And excess fabric will look and feel weird when layering under my jackets anyway.
>>18693199Totally. If you are set on getting down to 160 lb, then a medium should be good. I own that same hoodie though and love it. In my opinion, too many heritage style companies focus on making fabrics that are too heavyweight. The 10 oz loopwheel stuff is just that perfect weight for layering, and the brushed interior is insanely plush
>>18693164>nobody is really beating Japan when it comes to QC,HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAstopped reading right there champ
>>18693516>Why isn’t anybody listening to me about muh precious Italian denim!!!Just shut the fuck up. Last thread you self reported with a photo showing you are a skinny fat retard with no ass. You have no room to be talking about clothing with such a large, demanding personality while having a skinnyfat physique
>>18693586Take your meds, subhuman schizoid pajeet.
>>18693014I hope not. During the height of the millennial low rise tapered jeans I just bought whatever was available at the mall. Everything was that cut and I wondered why jeans fit like shit. Even the 501 were the st or ct version. All the rapidly aging millennials still wear low rise tapered jeans and chinos. I'm converted to mid-to-high rise straight cuts and will never look back.
>>18693823The only way slim fit works is if you're edgy - twink metalhead, built metalhead, shiacore etc.I like them in this context, but it takes a lot of commitment.Mid-rise normal straight will likely look mid perpetually - most of my pants are like that but I know that the ones that look the coolest now are the bigger more flowy ones.
>>18693823>>18693824The same fucking dialogue repeated ad infinitum. Aren’t you tired?
>>18693596Nice rebuttal, faggot. Imagine calling someone champ while having bitch tits and zero strength. I'm just going to start calling you Bitchtits
>>18693824>Mid-rise normal straight will likely look mid perpetually In a way, mid=timeless. Both super baggy and super slim are trends that come and go and will look dated at some point or another. I'm now at an age where it's ridiculous for me to be chasing trends, so classic, timeless and to a degree mid -I guess- fits is where it's at.>>18693844>Aren’t you tired?Sorta, feel free to add a novel topic and I'll happily talk about it with you.
>>18692733>>18692876>>18693516>>18693596lmao
>>18693865Based retard
>>18693878>BitchtitsI'm sure that superior italian denim is doing wonders to complement your pudgy physique
>>18693824Who the fuck even makes decent mid-rise jeans anymore? Everything I try these days seems like it's either so low rise that it's being held up by my dick or is so high that it's actually above my natural waist and I'm pulling it up every 30 seconds. The only exceptions are Costco/Walmart jeans that fall apart in 3 months.
>>18693925>Freewheelers 1951 or 1944-1945>TCB 50s>Flat Head D110 >Sugarcane 1966
>>18693023>jew seethes at superior culture
>>18693935>lulz mom look! post’d it agay’n!
>>18693958>imageboard insect gets mad for being laughed at
>>18693882>take your meds subhuman schizo
>>18694024>didn’t take his meds
>>18694029>yup
>>18694024All that greentext and you still have bitch tits and beak butt
>>18694113All these hours wasted on 4shit and you still can’t tell a picture from reddit from an actual anon selfie. Once again, retard: take your fucking pills.
>>18694116We are so sorry we never listened to your edict on Italian denim. Perhaps if we did we would have gotten rid of our beak butts and bitch tits
>>18694122Why are you so obsessed with Italy?
>>18694124Didn’t realize you have dementia
>>18694125That takes the cake, my sides
>>18694127>my sidesYou mean your bitch tits?
Okay so my SC 1947 came in. Maybe the tiniest of beak butt but not really cause I hit squats. Still newish to denim so should I get it hemmed with the expectation it will shrink in length by 1.5 inch or is it around 0.5 - 1 inch?
>>18694407Sick. Those are one washed. The overwhelming majority of one washed denim already has like 99% of the shrink done. I would suggest washing or soaking them cold and then hang drying to get any extra possible shrink out. After that, you should be good for a hem. Different people do different shit though. I personally don’t wash new jeans I first get them and instead wear them for like 1-2 months before the first wash. If you do an initial wash/soak the starch in the jeans gets washed out and you have less potential for forming strong creases in places like behind the knees. It’s probably so insignificant though that it doesn’t make a measurable difference. When I washed my SC1947 I didn’t notice any shrinkage. Just make sure to turn them inside out and wash cold on a gentle cycle, then take them out as fast as you can to avoid any indigo-soaked water from settling into your jeans in the washer. That is what can cause “marble fades”
Who makes decent stonewashed or lightwash jeans?
>>18695045Fuck you, pussy. Just fade the jeans yourself
>>18695045Levi’s
>>18695186And look like you have a droopy ass?
>>18695045Jelado
>>18695201sounds like a problem for men with droopy asses
>>18695201>he thought I meant current Levi’s
>>18695209You can have a tight twink ass and still look like a flat assed uggo if you wear modern Levis.
>>18694581Thanks, anon. I got it hemmed with an extra 1/2 inch length just in case. I’ll wear it for at least 2 months before washing it on a cold gentle cycle
Can anyone help with sizing? I got a selvedge 501 at size 33 thinking it would fit my 34.6 inch waist but the waistband is actually 35.4 inches (I measured it) and it needs a belt to stand up. Is this normal?
>>18695226>>18695201>Twink model pictures I wouldn't expect them to have anything back there.
>>18696047Did you look at the size chart before buying?
>>18696049Yes, Levi's chart thinks I should have gotten the 34. It would be ridiculously large
>>18696057>>18696047Is it a shrink to fit pair? Seems odd to run that high otherwise.
>>18696069It's 100% cotton selvedge. I had read about vanity sizing but never thought it was that bad. Their chart is completely off
>>18696074It's probably a stf, it will shrink about a size inbthe waist after the first wash.
>>18696074STF is still 100% cotton, just unsanforized and unwashed. its not like stretch where they put it some synthetics into the yarn.
cuffed jeans are ugly
i really want a jungle jacket but don't know who makes good ones
>>18697858If you have any military surplus stores around you, there’s so many M65s you can buy for cheap. If you want the mega nice Japan shit, Buzz Rickson and Real Mccoys are noted as having the two best M65s in the world
>>18697906not M65, but jungle jackets. they're a different thing than M65 jacketsdifferent collar, no hood, much thinner and lighter. basically the M65's summer version
>>18697910Buzz rickson, Bronson, Freewheelers, and toys McCoy all make a jungle jacket. Bronson will be the best value probably
Finding out that the gay guy who used to post his thirst trap bathroom denim pictures was once a Julius clad twink...Why have some many amazing personalities abandoned /fa/?
I returned my TCB order that I sized wrong and had to pay shipping and import fees and then they never refunded me lmao It's been weeks and they never gave me my money back
>>18698178Email back and let them know you’ve started the process of approving another nuke to be dropped on them
>>18698260>Dear Nipponese thieves>I recently purchased one of the jackets your time travelers stole from an honest American worker. I found the size inadequate and returned it. For this I was not reimbursed. If I do not receive compensation, actions will be taken>Much Love>/Anon Gay, grandson of Enola Gay. >PS. I have the one they didn't use.
>>18698265>RO-RO-RO, with sincere apologies, we have committed great dishonor
I like denim jackets, I have a blue type 2, but I want to get one like Anton Chigur's, I have my eye on a black Wrangler
>>18698303It was a dark indigo cotton twill jacket custom made for tge film. Wrangler does make a similar jacket, but good luck finding a 70's jacket with those fuckhuge lapels.
>>18698316I'm not the most prolific LARPer on the internet, I just wanted something similar because I think it's cool. I found one, so the search is over.
Not really workwear, but I just bought this Sun Surf shirt for summer. Any suggestions on styling this?
>>18698319In black or dark navy?
Wrangler quality control is so bad. If you want wranglers go try them out at a store and pick the best pair. I've ordered a few from amazon and there's always something off with the construction. Like the side seam being slanted which make the leg fit weird.
Should I start wearing multiple pairs of jeans at once to maximise fadez
>>18698178You’re a cuck for buying japanese meme clothing and that’s what you deserve.
I'm finally ditching skinny jeans. Which cuts should I be looking at? Can I still get away with slim cuts with ~22" thighs? I'd love a cut like this >>18693022 except from a quality brand.
>>18698682Zara is unironically a quality brand when it comes to jeans.
oh boy here we go
I underestimated how quickly a ~1k daily calorie deficit would change my body and now my Flat Head 3004s are sinking to my hipsThen again this is how I've always worn pants before
>>18698792I'm the guy that posted about the Zara jeans earlier. Their jeans from seeing them in stores seem similar to modern Levi's desu.Wrangler is better.BUT the upscale ones they do like the ones I talked about are as good as you'd like pants to get IMO.
>>18698805Bro a 1k deficit is kind of wild. You're supposed to do like 300-500 calories. I'd be afraid of losing muscle
>>18698812I dunno, so far I've gone from a shut-in fatass BMI of 31+ to a BMI of under 27 right now and my muscles feel pumped all the time. Then again 1k is probably a high estimate.
Can a denim jacket be starched? And if so, can I also wax it?
I have a denim jacket and I'm mending it, but it won't last long because I'm sewing it by hand; I don't have a sewing machine.
>>18699005Sure. Might be a bit fiddly depending on the type of course.
Naked and Famous Strong Guy or Sugar Cane Wide Cuts?
Thoughts? This design of jacket originated from a collab between French and Chinese companies during the 1930s to import Chinese workwear jackets to France.Was thinking about getting it for myself or a Japanese sashiko workwear jacket, a nice looking alternative to a denim or moleskin jacket.
>>18699235Eh, that style of buttons might be to larpy. It's trendy right now, however. But for a more timeless fit I'd go with a french workwear shirt/jacket.
>>18699249Maybe as an asian it would look less trendy on me?
>>18699235I'd go with the sashiko jacket simply because I'd prefer a fabric with some texture.
>>18699235not a fan of the buttons just get a regular French chore coat
>>18699192100% sugarcane wide cut
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