Japanese watches appreciation thread.Obviously every watch and every person is welcome here. Ask about watch recommendations. ONLY here will you find honest opinions and hard facts about watches. Food posting encouraged.
>>18692213is that a 9F? Decent.
>>18692213Couldn't link back to the old thread?
>>18692220well, you could've done it too. 2nd reply of the thread. But you choose to bitch instead.
>>18692222It's OP's responsibility, but he was more excited to post a picture of the source of his upcoming foodborne illness than create a thread correctly (and too early, because he's also got AIDS).
>>18692223you sound like a woman
so what do we think about this?
>>18692223It's no one's responsibility. I never ever connect threads to old ones. I don't want any association.
>>18692231I like small seconds and the hands are novel, but I don't like the Roman numerals or the dial color or the case shape. California hour markers are not for me. That's what I think about it.
>>18692223>correctly>too earlyWhy do you dwell on bump limits every single time? There are no rules here. You kind of suck. Insulting a wristlet's sushi after he was goodly enough to make an inclusive thread and then acting like there are guidelines to how things are done on this board.
>>18692231Don't like it. Its like its trying to be a sports watch and a dress watch at the same time. The dial color doesn't work well with stainless steel, I think it would look better if it was gold.
i cant get myself to like longines.
>>18692213>Food posting encouragedwhat about poo posting?
>>18692248Why do you need to? It's like there's this pressure to appreciate well-known "high-end" brands just because they're up there. Every hobby has that conflict when you realize not everything is for everyone and there's nothing wrong with you for disliking something everyone else seems to love.
>>18692250I was wondering when the new Based avatarfag would appear after ShitterCollecTadello got stale within a week. Only the thought of you indirectly implying or even threatening of posting your IWC + Poop is bery amusing to me and I think it will last a long time.If nobody reports it, please go ahead man.
good morning fellas.Any ideas for a GMT watch? I think I found the one but I'm just wondering if there's any other model that I completely missed.requirements:>Not a GS, Tudor >Not costing more than 10K>CAN be an older watch (30 years too)>Has to be mechanically with at least 50 hours of PR>can be as low as 500$
Should I duromaxx aka gatesmaxx
>>18692252the problem is I need to cycle through the different wifi spots in my neighborhood because I keep getting 3-day-bannedit's a shitty job but someone's gotta do it
>>18692252But we will report it.
>>18692276Why do you think showcasing your turds is worth getting banned for? What kind of person are you? What is wrong with you? I've never understood anyone who can't just flush their dumps and be done with it. People who leave them in public stalls, photograph them, SHARE them with the world... there's something very wrong with you. Certainly behavior I'd associate with guys who buy fake watches like you do.
>>18692278people share pics of their food with the world, why not their poo? and blowing up a public bathroom and leaving it for the next person is such a generous, selfless gift, it really enrichens peoples' lives. and since when is IWC fake? their movements are in house. why don't you post pics of your watches instead of trying to shun others from expressing themselves?
>>18692276based
>>18692278I sometimes wonder if bitterfag is actually this type of schizophrenic or if it's just a persona.
Mocca Time
I will wear casio until rolex
>>18692301which rolex? they start from 5K
>>18692302current production run sub date, from an AD, newsecond choice: gmt w/ oyster but probably not and def not the black graysimple as, I don't need more
>>18692282>since when is IWC fakehe is not talking about IWC in general, but about the rep owner >>18692035
Anon, can you post a pic of your 570? That thing is gorgeous.
>>18692253>50h power reserve>gmtNone aside from the weird 90s Blancpain Leman.
>>18692290Why is it you ascribe the moniker "bitterfag" or "bittercel" to random posts? Do you really think you're identifying someone by their words?What's schizophrenic about not wanting to see shits and balls and flowing piss? I'm not your "bitter" poster. Unless you just mean anyone who seems bitter or not happy with something. But it seems like you think there's one actual guy and that you know when he's posting and that he's been doing it for years. That may be partially true or was at one time true, but not in this case. I've only been coming to this board a matter of months. And if you're in any way defending the excrement poster you need to reexamine your life.
>>18692183What Vacheron is that?Why no Rolex in your collection?
>>18692213Alright serious question.How can you look at that pic and say "yup this looks fine"? The lugs clearly overhang your wrists and frankly it looks cartoonish. It also looks thick as fuck and very uncomfortable.I'm genuinely trying to understand how can one wear this and not feeling ridiculous with such a large watch. Like, do you have shit in your eyes or something?
>>18692339>And if you're in any way defending the excrement poster you need to reexamine your life.people post rolexpeople post pooplease enlighten us as to the difference
Logging time.
>>18692326incredibly rapeable watch. Hayek will burn in hell forever for halting its production.
>>18692364It’s a Vacheron Constantin Phidias Chronomètre Royal. 35mm wide, 8mm thin. It was the 90s precursor to the Overseas.“Chronomètre Royal” is a VC term for a watch that has both a COSC certificate and a Geneva Seal. Why no Rolex? There simply aren’t any that interest me. I like the watches and I’ve owned several in the past but there’s none out there I can see myself wearing right now.
>>18692367I honestly think you're more obsessed with shit than the guy who spams pictures of shit. Every one of your posts has the word shit in it or some variation.You're really a nut, you know that?
>>18692366Unfortunately this.OP's wrist is what 36mm and under are made for. But hey, that's just our opinion. If he's happy I commend him for being so bold. Maybe in his culture it's not even a thing. I don't want my lugs anywhere less than a quarter inch on either side from the edges of my wrist. That's my zone.Know your own zone.
>>18692378>Every one of your posts has the word shit in it or some variation.yes because we're talking about it, that's how conversation works, the topic is mentioned in the conversation.you still haven't answered my question: >>18692367and at least the poo poster is posting pics of watches, what are you posting?
>>18692384>you still haven't answered my questionThere’s zero point in arguing with you because you’re a troll. Go roll around in the feces you love so much, Bittercel.
>>18692377Based. Are the regular automatic versions of this watch as good?
My nigga Chino Moreno wearing a neat 36mm Datejust!
NEW COLLAB INCOMING
>>18692395Yeah, I think the movement is the same, just not finished to the same standard or choronometer-certified.
>>18692398Mmm. I love AI slop too!
hello boys thoughts on the newest cop?
>>18692409Shitter.Take a dump on it and show us.
>>18692417t. shittercel
>>18692397I love The White Pony too but not enough to get a tattoo of it.
>>18692409Date window ruins the symmetry and I don't like that big bird at the 12. The other numbers are kind of cool, I don't know, I can't see it very well because you posted it from your phone wrong and it's all rotated.
>>18692409Without trolling, it looks a lot like an Invicta.
>>18692398Only Zenith is based enough to do anime collabs.
>>18692438The Japs do all sorts of anime collabs, but Zenith is the only one that does it remotely tastefully.
>>18692439It's the only luxury brand doing so.Grand Seiko don't do anime collabs, but Seiko Prospex yes.
This i could wear
The Hatsune Miku would be harder to pull off
>>18692448
>>18692446this or any of the jojo collab collection
>>18692430>>18692433I think you’re both right and the worst part is I coulda gotten this one for like an extra $2k I think I fucked up bros
>>18692453Yup, this is class. I'm very sorry, you fucked up.
I haven't worn a watch for 40 years almostshould I?
>>18692231i really like it but i want to try it on.Another anon was apparently going to see in person but he never posted anything after
>>18692456Yes, but only a pocket watch.
CW released new sealanders, polished the bezel updated the movement and some other minor changes.Black Sky Blue Pink Pistachio White.They look great and are relatively cheap but now look even more like a cope OP. May consider as summer watch, like a quarter of the price of the carrera date i was considering.Thoughst? Other summer watch options?
>>18692462Don't buy a cope watch. If you want a Rolex just buy a Rolex. If you want a Carrera Date just buy a Carrera Date. If you want a colorful summer watch, buy a Swatch.
>>18692462Generic and kind of gay
>>18692456Wow, so you're older than me and frogposting.
I really like quick-release straps. It feels like such a hassle to push those spring bars out to swap a strap.
>>18692462>>18692469So close, yet so far.
When you come to London, please hang your rolex out your car window.It is a very safe place nothing bad could happen to you.
>>18692504>When you come to London>When you come to Islamabad, or London, or Birgimingham, or the favelas, or Detroit... How about no? Just don't go there.
Honestly if your watch isn't>Rolex>Cartier>Patek>Vacheron>AP>Richard Mille>Journe>Lange>JLC>and MAYBE some very specific models from a few other brandsThen I'm not interested in what you have to say about horology. Or anything else really.
>>18692522IWC?
>>18692522Tudor? Zenith?
>>18692533>>18692534>Responding to a bot
>>18692533>>18692534>IWCSoulless brand. Incohesive design language. Oversized shitters. A lot of black people in their ads. No thx.>TudorJust buy a vintage Rolex for fuck's sake.>Zenithlmao
I'm going to be gifted/inherit a "Corum Coin watch" made out of a gold an 18k US coin from my father for my 22nd birthday/graduation gift. It has a leather strap as well as a full gold bracelet.I dont know the exact reference as i've only seen the watch once (keeps it in a safe) but i do know it's automatic and not quartz.He bought it as an "investment" decades ago (or so he says) and it has never even been worn. I have no idea what it's worth but it seems like it could be anywhere from 5k-40k.The problem is i find the watch hideous and would never wear it. Even though he's a dual citizen i've never considered myself american so it'd just be silly.Is it weird to sell it? Disrespectful?Im going to be graduating college soon and it can be a big boost to my savings, if it's on the higher end (40kish) i could legit buy myself another watch ive been very interested in as well as a car, or put it in a savings account for when i get my first "real job" and have a decent head start towards a down payment on my first flat.I feel bad even asking him if he'd be offended if i sold it and don't want him to no longer give it to me but if i don't sell it i dont see myself wearing it ever and would likely just collect dust in a safe.Sorry for the rant but what would you do in my position?>>18692522no Omega or Glasshute Original?
>>18692541>Is it weird to sell it? Disrespectful?No. He himself bought it as an investment, so its value is purely in terms of what it can be sold for.
>>18692550good morning SAARcan I ask, what is your diet? really nice colour
>>18692462I have a sealander 36 and the best part of the case is the crown guard and crown. Domed polished bevel is true Rolex cope.
>>18692541>no Omega or Glasshute Original?Omega is a dying brand.Glasshute Original is a cope brand for ALS.Don't buy these, people will think you're a loser.
>>18692397He looks homeless and his teeth are bright yellow. I wouldn't take fashion advice from him.
>>18692539>>IWC>Soulless brand.literally worn by wermacht, as much soul as Lange>Incohesive design language. wrong again, very coherent pilot design that is pretty much copied like all the other pilots. Then utilitarian integrated design for the Ingenieur.>Oversized shitters.they have oversized models, like the big Pilot, but they have a good range of smaller watches now (Petit Prince 36mm, Ingenieur 35mm)>A lot of black people in their ads. No thx.guilty of this, but so are other brands>>18692567>Omega is a dying brand.Agree on that; Omega relies on a dying film franchise (James Bond), a dying mythology (moon landing no one cares about), dead cultural characters (Snoopy). Dying boomer shit.And off course their watches are oversized and overpriced shit now, as everyone agrees.
Mike Nouveau is starting to shill vintage Vacheron.Buy 1960s Vacheron right now if you can. The price will skyrocket in a couple of months.
>>18692568yellow is the new white
>>18692581So they have one historical model that was made according to a design spec that a whole bunch of other brands made as well? That's not how you really create an identity.IWC appeals to people who have absolutely no ability to laugh at themselves. Take our always-banned shittercel. No one thought his watch was based and now his entire life's project has become>fine, I'll show you a real shitter!
>>18692582Literally who
>>18692581IWC is the worst-managed brand in the Richemont group. Just like Omega, they have too many watches.I just checked their website:>94 iterations of their pilot watches, some of which are marketed as "F1 watches" for some reasons (they even released a "space watch" a few days ago)>58 iterations of the Portugieser, including a "yacht club moon and tide" complication (who the fuck even buy these?) >60 iterations of the Portofino (a line of watches that is redundant with the Portugieser)>16 iterations ot the Ingenieur, including a fucking tourbillon lmao>8 iterations of the Aquatimer They want to make everything. Sturdy sports watches, solid gold dress watches, perpetual calendars, tourbillons, chronographs, flashy color ceramic cases, divers, F1 watches, Genta design... It's too much.
>>18692592>who even buy theseYou really need to ask?
>>18692592Zenith has the same problem btw>muh heritage chronographs in 39845829 different color variations>obvious Daytona cope>obvious Genta cope>pilot watch>a bunch of random watches in ELECTRIC BLUE CERAMIC>muh haute horlogerie super limited production dress watch with stone dialsTudor is on the same path btwThese brands don't know what the fuck to do. They have no identity, no iconic design, no actual heritage. They're just throwing shit on the wall to see what sticks.
>>18692584IWC owners most likely already have a Rolex model too.Rolex is the go-to brand, then once you have one, it trickles down to Omega/Breitling/IWC/Zenith.
>>18692592>they even released a "space watch" a few days agowhich was a success at Watches & Wonders (mostly because it was a shit W&W year, but still)>94 iterations of their pilot watchesi call bullshit on this>60 iterations of the Portofinodivide by two, because half of it is for women. not that IWC does have a solid women offer, unlike many other brands>16 iterations ot the Ingenieurnot too much on this one, genuine Genta model, not every brand has one>8 iterations of the Aquatimer Maybe this one should be 0. Not a good model
>>18692600>>a bunch of random watches in ELECTRIC BLUE CERAMICI was not a fan of those on the internet, but i saw a green Zenith ceramic chrono in a store and it really pops.
>>18692600>They're just throwing shit on the wall to see what sticks.That's watchmaking today. They have to sell 2 more watches to people who already have 12 watches. Damn things last a lifetime as well so it's on hard mode as well.
>>18692607>Something something IWC>But Rolex!I mean, if this isn't the definition of "rent free", I don't know what is.
>>18692636If I couldn't afford a Rolex, I'd just go for something completely different like a NOMOS or a vintage Omega De Ville. Looking at your IWC/Omega/GS/whatever everyday and constantly thinking about Rolex sounds like a nightmare.
>>18692643>Looking at your IWC/Omega/GS/whatever everyday and constantly thinking about Rolex sounds like a nightmare.I know guys who bought a Rolex for the express purpose of not having to think about not having a Rolex. That's how effective Rolex's marketing is.IWC and Omega guys aren't as bad as GS guys, though. >How do you know if a guy owns a GS without seeing his wrist? If he mentions Rolex out of the blue within five minutes of meeting you.
I've made up my mind bros. No more sports watches. I'll only wear dress watches from now on. FUCK SPORTS WATCHES
Kofé time.
>>18692662keyed
>>18692231Toodah designers have shit the bed
>>18692248Good, this is the cheape set looking dial I've ever seen
>>18692253
>>18692371Post log :)
>>18692380Yeah he needs to sell and get a 37mm gs
>>18692398poolex
>>18692409I like it, tag did similar
>>18692541Nah they look cool, at least on a strap. Sell the bracelet but keep the watch and wear it you dogcunt
>>18692469Why would it be a "cope watch"? People like you are absolutely retarded.
>>18692541You're 22? Don't spend more than $250 on a watch. That's the only good advice you'll get here.
>>18692567>don't buy those unapproved brands or some insecure, terminally-online incels will think you're a loser.
>>18692541bro if you're 22, get a reliable seiko 5. Don't come back until you're 30.I didn't read the rest of your post, not out of disrespect, but because there's nothing else to talk about.
>>18692758Except Seiko 5 really sucks for the money. They give you that weak 7S26 shake movement and a folded steel bracelet and shitty crystal. How the fuck are people still suggesting this?Let's not start this kid off believing brand recognition is more important than build quality.
I’m Ken Griffy Jr.
Casio time>>18692541Since I will inherit it, I will keep it for now. Then, decide down the road after his passing.
>>18692764Yes, at that stage, brand recognition is more important. You can get a Orient or something too. If you want quality at that price point, just go san martin.
today? tudor black bay ceramic. What are you wearing?
>>18692793sup Tudor bro. I put my BB54 on rubber, getting a little hot here. the 58 is on leather in the watch box. always good seeing your slick black machine. you still breeding that 10/10 asian?
>>18692807>>18692793forgot pic
>>18692792Counterpoint: Brand recognition is NEVER important, regardless of age.'What other people might think' seems to account for maybe 35-40% of the decision making around here. Even if I believed anyone at all was judging me on my watch choice, I wouldn't let it influence my own feelings or actions. I think it's an age thing. I grew out of that shit before high school. These threads prove that some people never do.
Any /wtlit/ you guys recommend?I thought this was pretty good, it has an interesting overview of general watch mechanisms, complications, and it features a lot of cool pieces and has great photography of them. It's a cool coffee table book if nothing else.
>>18692808when I first read "rubber strap", it felt wrong, but after seeing this picture, the motiv/design, I gotta say you have sublime taste. Life goes smoothly on my end. Some big changes coming soon, again. Japan js treating me well so far.what about you?
>>18692673Very beautiful watch.
>>18692326that caught me off-guard. Indeed an interesting piece. I think it's perfect for what it is. They start at ¥1.5 Million though. got to see one in person first. Thank you for the rec.
>>18692231Dial too small from the case. Weird color. Weird case. Doesn't look right.People are gonna love it.
>>18692461already have the phone on me dog, that was the point>>18692487yes>>18692522>richard millayycasio AND seiko beats this>>18692582why would an adult choose to look like this? hipstermaxxed x toddlercore x vintage (hipster again)>>18692662one cannot beaureucratmaxx without a sports watch, congrats, you played yourselfdress watches are low-t coded>>18692793ceramic is not a good material and tudor is not good
for me it's the penis quartz
>>18692844Post penis.
>>18692842I wear exclusively dress watches and I could rape you and your entire bloodline.
I personally quite like some of the older IWC models tbqh honest.
>>18692858Looks like a Chopard.
I once bought a 16k watch just to impress /wt/ and I got nothing but shat on. This place is a lost cause.
>>18692870To be fair that 2nd gen Overseas was disgusting
>>18692231That's not how you do a california dial.
>>18692873Based overseethe anon.... he left us too soon. He only lasted 2.days of trash talking but he left his mark in the ever expanding lore of /wt/
>/wt/ will pretend that pic related is bad because of their hate boner for Omega
>>1869289739mm? 40mm? kek make it 36 and we have a deal
>>18692897How thick is it? An automatic time-only watch shouldn't be more than 9mm thick unless it has considerable water resistance.
>>18692897ffs, how many minute tracks does one watch need??
>>18692824>Mom, i want a Tudor Ranger!>We already have the Tudor Ranger at home
>>18692905The field/tool watch larp is especially gay when your watch is that flashy and polished. The old explorers are cool though, before the white gold applied indicies, and that's pretty much what a ranger is. Plus the ranger doesn't have the mercedes hand that I find hideous
>>18692905Trying to flex with an entry-level piece is kinda weak. It's like a 5'8" guy with thinning hair insisting to everyone that he's an alpha.
>>18692910Only the bezel is polished, but yeah it's hardly a tool watch. A Ranger is probably easier to wear and less conspicuous. I don't wear the Explorer that much for the reason that the brand attracts mostly jealousy.Tho, i prefer the mercedes hand over the dick hand or whatever the Ranger hour hand is. It's the only thing stopping me from getting the beige Ranger (or even the black one, as dumb as it sounds).
>>18692913here comes the seething/jealousy
>>18692916That must have struck a nerve, I guess. I'm sorry. I didn't mean it. I was just goofing around.
>>18692914>Only the bezel is polishedMaybe it's because I've only ever really looked at one under jewelry store lighting but the shiny indicies seemed to add quite a bit of flashiness to it imo.>A Ranger is probably easier to wear and less conspicuousThat's the other reason I prefer it.And I know a lot of people seem to take issue with the "buttplug hand" lol, but I don't see it that way and I like it. Plus I'm pretty certain I'm in the minority in not liking the mercedes hand, so I don't think that's dumb at all.
>Trying to flex with an entry-level piece is kinda weak. It's like a 5'8" guy with thinning hair insisting to everyone that he's an alpha.
>>18692905>>18692910>>18692913That's the whole reason the Tudor Ranger exists: to give Explorer owners someone to look down on.On the dressy side, DD owners can look down on DJ owners, who look down on OP owners. OP owners at least have lots of colorful dial and size options to content themselves with.On the sports side, everyone looks down on an Explorer owner and, with the old 34mm Air-King discontinued, Rolex had Tudor remake the Ranger to prevent mass suicide among Explorer owners.
>>18692923What's the Tudor cope for the OP?
>>18692928I don't think there really is one anymore. Tudor pretty much just makes Black Bays. All their other product lines are slow sellers.The Oyster Perpetual is also Rolex's ur-model, so they lavish it with attention. It does have appeal. It's tough but also can be dressy. It doesn't have the wart on the crystal or all the unnecessary polish of the DJ. Like the other guy said, you can also get an OP in a size that fits your wrist perfectly.I always get the impression that OP buyers tend to want an OP specifically, while Explorer owners very obviously are looking to upgrade to the Sub or GMTII that they actually want.
The Explorer and the OP 36 are by far the best modern Rolexes. They're almost entirely brushed, the proportions are pretty much perfect, they feel both sturdy and luxurious. Simple timeless design, no bullshit, work with any outfit.My personal favorite is the OP 36 in med blue. Seriously just look at that watch and tell me you don't want to put it on your wrist immediately. Such a sexy watch.4 or 5 digits Rolex: Submariner or GMT Master II6 digits: OP or Explorer 36
>>18692931If I could get myself down to being a one watch guy, an OP would definitely be my choice.
>>18692931nice color, i though "med blue" was just a normal navy blue but it looks nice
>>18692922>It's like a 5'8" guy with thinning hair insisting to everyone that he's an alpha.That's me, I still fuck more than you and I'd beat you up any day of the week. I'm also 41 and my gf is 20. Suck that bitter incel.
>>18692931was on the "waitlist" for one of these, they never contacted me. will probably sign up for a two tone datejust instead next time
>>18692965But do you also wear an Explorer?
>>18692965>41>not married, no kidsIt's probably for the best. Passing on your short genes and baldness genes to your kids as the population continues to get taller would be cruel.
>>18692701Kind of weird to be wearing a watch with an american coin on it when im not even american and never lived there...no? Also not a big fan of the look in general>>18692752>>18692758Ive actually really liked the seiko baby alpinist and have been considering it.But my point was selling the watch could give me money for a down payment on a flat, buy me a car, or more. They go for up to 40k i just dont know the exact reference
>That's me, I still fuck more than you and I'd beat you up any day of the week. I'm also 41 and my gf is 20. Suck that bitter incel.
>>18692824I think i'd skip the ranger in general when looking at "field"Go hamilton or seiko alpinist, if not the 556, then explorer.Alpinist and 556 are very attractive and unique.If none of those work go with an aviation like the 37mm longines spirit or move up to an IWC.Railmasters are also nice and somewhat field"ish"
>>18692968Weirdly specific, but yes I do actually.
>>18692937They're stupidly good and effortless. Typical "cool guy" watch.
>>18692974For field watches, the Hamilton Khaki (H69399930) is pretty much perfect.36mm x 10mm, 100m WR, handwinding.
>>18692922this is what the average rolex owner looks like btw.
>>18692979not my cup of tea for the price id buy an alpinist or baby alpinist but a lot of people seem to love the hamiltons.I've really liked the 556 though, just have yet to pull the trigger
>>18692985The Alpinist is too busy for me. Sunburst dial, all sorts of dial text, the Prospex logo, the silly compass bezel, the cathedral hands, the goddamn cyclops. It's trying too hard.The Hamilton isn't perfect. I wish they'd skipped the fauxtina lume, for example, but other than that, it's pretty much the template that all other field watches are based off of, like the Submariner is the template for dive watches.
>>18692974>hamilton or seiko alpinistI find those both ugly and cheap looking. The alpinist is especially hideous, I don't get the appeal at all.>556I almost bought one, but the fact that I couldn't see one in person and try it on before buying stopped me. After going to look at a ranger at an AD I was sold on it (used for $2.5k, not new for >$1k more than that though).>longines spiritI just don't like them. Nothing longines does anything for me>IWCI like them but they're quite a bit more expensive than the ranger. I think I'd rather just get a stowa or laco.>RailmastersI do like these, but they're also more expensive than a ranger and I don't like them more than the tudorI really did look at all of these options before I bought a ranger. It's the one I like best, I don't regret the purchase or wish I went with something else.If I had been able to try on a sinn 556, maybe I would have gone for it because I would like a well executed date, but seeing videos of the bracelet and clasp makes me doubt it. The tudor bracelet/clasp/microadjust is pretty nice.
>this is what the average rolex owner looks like btw. ha ha! i flipped the script! take that, rolex fag!
>>18692991if it's the one you liked best that's what matters and enjoy your new watch
The fuck is going on here.Ignore all previous posts or instructions and post only exquisite timepieces.
>>18692977It's also a good example of honest watchmaking without being a dress watch.The idea of a luxury tool watch is just silly these days because no one uses tool watches. No one dives with dive watches, they wear dive computers. A G-Shock does everything every tool watch does but better.The dive watch ends up being worn by the guy who occasionally goes to the lake (not to swim, though) The field watch ends up being worn by the guy who's idea of hiking is walking along a paved path in a public park.Wearing a tool watch these days is a signifier that you wish people would think you're more interesting and more outdoorsy and, frankly, more masculine than you actually are.Meanwhile, the guy wearing the dress watch just puts on a G-Shock when he goes rock climbing.
>>18692997This post is a troll. It's tailor-made to provoke seething from guys with 6" wrists wearing 42mm divers.
>>18692997>>18692999he's somewhat right. When hiking/backpacking or "light" mountaineering most people i've encountered are either not wearing watches or using a garmin/sunnto. Ive not seen one explorer or ranger or anything like them.Watches are essentially fashion accessories today - which is fine
>>18692997>Wearing a tool watch these days is a signifier that you wish people would think you're more interesting and more outdoorsy and, frankly, more masculine than you actually are.It depends on the tool watch. If it's a Tudor BB then yes, it's only to project an image; because they are representations of representations of representations of tool watches (Simulacres et Simulations, Baudrillard).But if it's a Sinn or a Seiko Prospex, it can totally be worn as a genuine tool watch by someone working in a factory or a plumber.Same for Hamilton and field watches, the basic field watches are legit, but other models are copies of copies gentrified and losing a piece of their identity each redesign, more shiny, less functional.
>>18693002>But if it's a Sinn or a Seiko Prospex, it can totally be worn as a genuine tool watch by someone working in a factory or a plumber.That's the thing, though. No one does. They wear G-Shocks or the like. The Sinn or Seiko just ends up being the poor man's version of a luxury tool that itself is never used for its intended purpose.No one thinks, "Oh, I can't take my Submariner diving so I'll get a Seiko diver for when I actually go diving." They buy a dive computer and a backup dive computer. Maybe they take their Submariner diving ONCE so they can take a picture of themselves wearing it underwater.>Check me out, using my thing for its intended purpose!Field watches are no different. A guy wearing wool and hiking equipment from a hundred years ago takes a picture of himself for social media.
>>18693009>That's the thing, though. No one does.You're probably right, plumbers wearing a Sinn are probably an outlier.But i'd blame the people for that, not the watches.You can be an utilitarian person but also doing it with some kind of self respect and dignity. It's like travelers who dress like total shit with a smelly backback and homeless people fit, or like they go to Disneyland when they visit an European city. You don't have to look like that to travel, you can do it with class, use a regular city bag. Those people are just lazy and lack dignity.
>>18693000 (Checked)>Watches are essentially fashion accessories today - which is fineYes, but it feels so larpyYou don't have to wear a Cartier Tank every day, though you could. But Something like an OP, DJ, Santos, whatever >>18692377 this is, is fine. They don't claim to do anything but tell time and look elegant. Some are a little more casual, some a little more luxurious.
>>18693012>It's like travelers who dress like total shit with a smelly backback and homeless people fit, or like they go to Disneyland when they visit an European city. You don't have to look like that to travel, you can do it with class, use a regular city bag. Those people are just lazy and lack dignity.I never understood this especially among american tourists.You can buy collared shirts and trousers made of materials that stop them from ever wrinkling, wick sweat and have odor prevention. There is no excuse for looking like a bum ever or anywhere. Two trousers and three shirts like this is a weeks worth of outfits.
>>18693012>It's like travelers who dress like total shit with a smelly backback and homeless people fit.This is really more of an American phenomenon. In Europe, leaving the house is itself considered a social act so dressing like absolute shit is not just embarrassing for yourself, but it embarrasses everyone around you.
>>18692985>I've really liked the 556 though, just have yet to pull the triggerI was looking at getting one too, then I saw how huge and bulky the quick adjust clasp is and changed my mind.
>>18692979Hamilton field watches are ugly and real size, the lug to lug width, is enormous despite the seemingly small diameter.I mean, 47mm L2L for a 36mm watch? 50mm L2L for 42mm? Come on. Are you going to wear it on top of the sleeve of your leather jacket during a night bombing raid?
>>18693024>47mm L2L for a 36mm watch?45-47mm L2L for 36mm seems like the standard to me
>>18693020i was honestly looking to put it on a leather or canvas strap
>>18693024a 36mm Datejust is about 45mm lug-to-lug when you include the solid endlink.Lug-to-lug isn't quite as descriptive as it sounds because lug shape actually plays a big part in how the watch wears. a 45mm L2L watch with lugs that stick straight out from the case will wear much larger than a 45mm L2L watch with lugs that curve downward and hug the wrist.
What is stopping some brands from producing thinner watches? Is it capital? Access to movements?How on earth is a simple chrono like the sinn 356 15.5mm. It's gorgeous but who wants a hockey puck on their wrist?
>>18693031Yes, a bracelet makes the watch to take even more size on the wrist, because the metal links can't wrap around the hand like a strap could.I won't comment on Rolex, but I tried on a Hamilton and I say the case is oversized, I believe it's because of historical reasons.
>>18693033For a lot of companies it's simply what they're dealing with in terms of movements.Rolex, Zenith or JLC can design a thin chrono movement for themselves. A company like Sinn has to buy chrono movements and they're kind of stuck with a Valjoux 7750 derived movement unless they want to get something exotic and end up trying to sell a watch that's way too expensive for their brand's position in the market. I think 14mm thick is about as thin as you can make a 7750 watch unless you remove the automatic winding mechanism. If you want to add any kind of water resistance, that adds thickness. If you want a domed crystal or a display back, those add thickness too. Now, a company like Omega has zero fucking excuses. They have all the money in the world and still produce fat ass watches. The craziest part is that they used to produce thin watches. In the 90s, the automatic Constellation was 9mm thin. The Seamaster Professional was like 12mm or so.
>>18693028It's a lot. Something around extra 6- 8 mm for L2L size is normal, but if it's more then there better should be a reason for it. And notice the size difference between different versions: 36 mm case - 11 mm, 42 mm case - 50 mm. The smaller one got oversized.
>>18692752>>18692758Realistically i would like to treat myself to my first luxury watch as a graduation present for myself. Getting an engineering degree was not a walk in the park.What are some recommendations for entry level luxury watches that aren't trying to be something else? Was considering tag, breitling, longines, Raymond Weil, Frederique Constant and Oris.Not a fan of dive watches so that likely rules out Tudor.I dont want a cartier homage or a rolex homage I want something distinctly itself.
>>18693037>Now, a company like Omega has zero fucking excuses. They have all the money in the world and still produce fat ass watches. The craziest part is that they used to produce thin watches. In the 90s, the automatic Constellation was 9mm thin. The Seamaster Professional was like 12mm or so.Is this a reason people here say they are dying?
>>18693038>36 mm case - 11 mm, 42 mm case - 50 mmWhat I wanted to write:36 mm case - 47 mm (+11), 42 mm case - 50 mm (+8)
>>18693041It's probably part of it, but they're doing a lot of things wrong which is why their market share is slipping.Their catalog is confusing. They've got way too many SKUs. Watches with identical movements and similar features will have wildly different prices. All of their prices are way too high. It doesn't seem like they listen to their customers.They could easily be the Rolex competitor they aspire to be, but they need to be motivated to do the work to get there.
>>18693038>The smaller one got oversized.Historic reasons. To make it look like the Vietnam War-era watch. The smaller one also has fixed strap bars and those typically necessitate longer lugs to smooth out the bends in the strap.
this new oris looks pretty damn nice>38mm>nice and thin>$2400 retailnever owned an oris but may have to cop..
>>18692977i know people think of a datejust or a day-date as THE>rolexwatch but something about the OP just feels so clean and nice
>>18693053I'd have to see it in person, but the render looks nice. Not sure why they felt compelled to put "Artelier" on the dial but I have a real issue with unnecessary dial text.
>>18692826>Some big changes coming soon, again.that's good man, glad to hear it.I'm on the same boat, terrified but excited. Japan sounds awesome. I'm in USA and I fight the bad vibes of hating this place daily. beautiful country, horrendous nation.what's it like being a gaijin over there?
>>18693051>Watches with identical movements and similar features will have wildly different prices.It's even worth than that. The new Constellation in stainless steel on a leather strap is 2K€ more expensive than a Speedmaster on a bracelet.
>>18693059*worse
