/balding/ and /finasteride/ general - hair is love, hair is life!Sticky: http://tuxbell.com/index.php/BaldingReminder that if you can clearly see down to your scalp when your hair is wet, your hair is thinning, lots of small new hairs sprouting at the hairline or crown is a sign of hair recession.Holy trinity:Tabs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinasterideLotion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MinoxidilShampoo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KetoconazoleFinasteride/Dutasteride are 5-alpha reductase inhibitors that prevent free T from being converted to DHT, a byproduct of testosterone that serves no purpose after puberty but to choke out your hair follicles and make them thin out and die in a few short years, a condition known as androgenic alopecia.5ar inhibitors prevent your hair from getting any worse, mild regrowth is expected, rapid onset diffuse thinners see a significant recovery on fin alone. Can be taken orally or topically.5ARIs are not dosage dependent, taking as little as as 0.2mg daily fin can reduce serum DHT by 68%, while 5mg reduces by 72%.0.5mg daily dut reduces serum DHT by 95%, but is considered a second line treatment, and can be more expensive and harder to get prescribed. Start with fin.Fin has been used to treat benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) for 30+ years, it's very well studied and is tolerated well in almost all men, however, there's a 1-2% risk of erectile issues in controlled studies.These can be avoided by reducing dosage, spacing out dosage, or stopping the drug. Fin takes days to fully bio-accumulate, the half life of fin is about 8 hours, adverse effects occuring within minutes of starting fin or persisting long after stopping fin are not real and have no basis in reality. Please note that dut has a much higher half-life of 5 weeks, if you're prone to fin sides, dut may cause them for far longer.Refer to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3481923/ before responding to PFS trolls.
Minoxidil (liquid and tabs) is a vasodialator that opens potassium channels and widens blood vessels bringing nutrients to your hair follicles, stimulating them into thickening, accelerating growth and elongating the growth phase. Min is taken with fin to restore your hair to it's original hairline, thickness and vigor when hair loss is caught early enough, (pre-NW2). Can be taken orally or topically.Topical min does not work in 1/3 of men because they lack the required enzymes in their scalp, all men have this enzyme in their liver so the oral route is a good fallback.The FDA formulation for 5% liquid minoxidil is food safe (vape juice, ethanol and water) and can be safely taken orally if oral min tabs are expensive or rarely prescribed where you live. As a general rule, ~4 drops (0.1ml) = 5mg minoxidil.There's a 1-2% risk of fluid retention with higher oral dosages, start with the lowest dosage possible and work your way up when you're sure it's well tolerated.Ketoconazole is an anti-androgen and antifungal that inhibits DHT on the scalp and used to treat fungal infections of the scalp that may be making your hair loss worse such as seborrheic dermatitis, a condition where you exhibit severe greasy, flaky large dandruff flakes with dried yellow crystals (blood plasma) embedded in the scalp. Some people may only have traction alopecia (hair loss from scratching or friction), but it will not cure androgenic alopecia on it's own. Can only be taken topically.Do not use spirolactone. Spirolactone is a diuretic which, in large doses, inhibits testosterone and, by extension, DHT.It is regularly prescribed as an anti-androgen for male to female HRT, and thus, comes with an astronomically higher risk of sexual side effects in men including ED, gynecomastia, and can cause potassium toxicity.Previous thread: https://boards.4chan.org/fa/thread/18698181#top
Sup chooms
yeah, nothing's working for me. i give up. i feel so ashamed that i wear a hat everywhere. might kms.
>>18707558just shave your head and embrace cueball, also begin lifting like crazy the DHT will be doing you wonders
Embrace the bald for maximum power.https://youtu.be/1LsIQr_4iSY
>>18707558Just pierce your ear ang grow your hair
>>18707584Exactly it literally is not hard
>>18707584>/balding/ general>Just grow your hair
>>18707674The remaining hair yeah, don't tell me that your hair are falling in the back of your head too
>>18707558t. didnt try dutalso in all seriousness, you might as well Just Shave it Bro™ and chill the fuck out about hair for a bit if you're at the point of suicide.
>>18707510I cant find any source of foam minoxidil in europe that doesnt charge 100 eur for a 3 pack. I remember buying them for like 70 eur on ebay.Any advice?
Been taking finasteride for like 2 weeks and my libido has tanked. If I look at a porn video, I can jerk off and feel fine, but I just don't have the urge to goon when sitting at my pc like I did before taking fin. Will it come back?
>>18707740Libido problems are almost always psychological across every case, not just fin. Once you "think" you have an issue the thoughts just compound until it becomes unmistakably real. Best thing to do is just try to forget about it which takes time and distance from internet forums.
>>18707740Finasteride made my libido a little lower, and it has stayed that way for the years I've been on it. Since yours outright tanked, I have to imagine you'll recover some if not most, but who knows. Fwiw dutasteride is reported by many to not affect libido even slightly, and that's probably due to it not being able to pass the blood brain barrier the way fin does.
>>18707745ok i'll keep taking it and see what happens after a month>>18707749would you say the trade off was worth it? for me a little lower libido is fine, but i'm feeling like I turned asexual lol
>>18707776For a little drop in libido, yeah I think it was worth it, which is why I've been on it for years. In your case though, since you just started, I'd go to Dr B (website) if you live in burgerland and simply get a dut prescription that you can pick up today. I'm going to drop fin entirely once I've been on dut for at least a month, personally. Fin has been great for halting any further loss, but the regrowth from dut I've seen people report lately is insane, and not affecting the brain directly is a huge plus in my eyes.
>>18707727Where do you live? I’ve google minoxidil foam cheap and found like 3 different products for 35€/3 month supply.
>be progressing to NW3>finally go see a doc>"we need to establish you are actually balding, come back when it's progressed more"BRO I came for a fin prescription to PREVENT further loss
>>18707900your doc is a norwood reaper bro. use dr b if you're a burger.
>>18707900>come back later>welp you're bald now and here's no cure for it. I'll prescribe some candies and suggest a transplant
>>18707688NTA but I've lost density all over my scalp, it itches and when I scratch it sometimes it hurts, sometimes I get a stinging/aching sensation like a tick is pinching my scalp but there is no tick obviously, and I've lost body hair as well, specifically pubic hair.
>>18707900He fell for the mature hairline meme
>>18707900dermas are such a scam, i don't think i've ever seen any burger claim they just walked out with a fin prescription after asking for one
>>18708141Most doctors don't care about hair loss in general. Even if it's being caused by an autoimmune or thyroid disorder.
Does being lean help reduce fin/dut side effects?
>>18708148the slight uptick in aromatized estrogen can be worsened by being fat (since that also increases estrogen levels)so my guess would be probably, but only if you're very sensitive to slight shifts in estrogen already
>>18708141i asked gemini what are some cosmetic lifestyle drugs that ruin your life and finasteride was #1 with all it's references being from reddit's PFS spergs lmaoisotretinoin was #2 with it's real risk of permanent brain damage on top of dry eye syndromeweak cowardly men don't get to save their hair and the price of 5ARIs will never skyrocket after they become a celebrity social media trend
>>18708141That happened to me but the doctor was fully white haired and haggard with a perfect NW0. I told him I wished I had his hair and he said he wishes his still had color.
>>18707900>>18708141MDs will always be focused on limiting their own accountability. Derm is much like other, traditional specialties where the focus is on life/health threatening conditions, they are not usually experts at balding, even though it does technically fall within their specialty. The guy won't get sued if you bald a little, but he exposes himself to lawsuit with potential validity if you turn out to be a PFS schizo complaining about side effects and he doesn't have documented progression to support the diagnosis and prescribing drugs for a cosmetic disorder.It's better to go to an MD with a spec/subspec in aesthetic medicine for a quick fin script. They will be more confident in a quick diagnosis and expose themselves to less risk, given treating cosmetic disorders is what they do primarily.
>>18708261>he wishes his still had colorWhat a dishonest faggot. You can buy hair dye easily. Fin needs prescription from annoying faggots like him.
Hello guys, this question probably will sound weird but I'm 20 years old and have healthy hair, my father is 63 and he also have healthy full hair, no thinning, so I probably will also have full hair in that age, but I don't want, I want some part of my hair to naturally go away, I want to have hair like this pic, I just have weird taste, this is Ken Rosenberg from GTA San Andreas, I know I can just shave that part but I want to know is it possible to get that hair naturally without shaving?
No answer?
>>18708328Epilation laser
>>18708379Thanks for recommendation and answer but that's not what I'm looking for, I said natural way, also I heard that laser is dangerous, definitely not trying it
>>18708383You could theoretically ask a hair transplant surgeon to pluck them out in that pattern. Some wouldnt agree but you could probably find one who would
Where to get topical dutasteride? Repeatedly developing gyno from fin, no other side effects and I feel fine. Penor still works, mood is fine, balls don't hurt. Guess I'm part of the 1%.I tried fin at full dose for three weeks back in January, started developing gyno so I dropped it. Within two months the gyno was gone, and I started taking quartered dose (0.25mg) of fin. Now I've been on fin for 10 weeks, and gyno is back again. Been trying to stick with it cuz >your body will readapt to the new hormonal profile brobut getting sick of puffy nips, especially now that its summer. Frustrating since I'm well into the fin shedding phase but what can you do. I don't want to surrender to the reaper just yet, and I've heard topical dut avoids systematic sides so SURELY i'll be able to sit at a comfy NW2. Where is best for a topical dutasteride prescription? I'm in the states and I'm looking for straight dut, no minoxidil.
>>18708397Have you even tried to remedy the puffiness? (Not necessarily gyno btw)
>>18708397Unfortunately, any topical will still be systemic so you will prob still get early symptoms of gyno. just shave it bro, it's not worth being dependent on a drug for life
>>18707900Go to an urologist or telemedicine. As long as you pay out of your own pocket they give you anything you want really.
I'm going to jump onto dut and oral min I WILL DO IT
>>18708559do dut only for a year straight. i regret using both at once since now ill never know if dut alone would have been enough
>>18708560you're just wasting time and losing ground doing one or the other, I was dissatisfied with fin just pausing the hair loss rather than regrowing anything after 8 months so I started min, then I just got on dut after I found an reliable telemedicine source for prescription renewalsthe hair greed is real
>>18707510Hairlettes on suicide watch
How likely is it to get chest pain from rogaine? I started like two months ago and have had left side chest discomfort for some time now. I got a lot of anxiety as well so not sure if it's that.I'm literally using only like 0,5ml/day at most which is only 1/4 of the daily recommended dose.
>>18708624Very unlikely, basically 0% unless you have some kind of underlying issue which surely you would be aware of at this point in your adult life.
Can I start taking creatine while on fin? Or will it undo years of hair gains?
minoxidil is a shit drug whether topical or oral, you should only use it if you need it
Can his hairline be saved, anons?
>>18708808NW4. It’s over.
>>18708760You shouldn’t need creatine if you’re also taking oral minoxidil. It won’t give you energy, but it will make you retain water for the first couple weeks.Your best alternative to creatine is pure dark chocolate and potassium.
>>18708624Rogaine? Topical? Zero. Oral minoxidil? Maybe water retention cramping in your body and legs. Also your face and neck.Just drink dandelion tea to get that shit out, or maybe take a bong hit if you smoke. Aller-Tec works too.
>>18708328ill trade you
