Remembered the subject this time editionWhat do I need to care for my boots?>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)>Horsehair brush ($10-15)>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bick4/renovateur>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest themHow do I deal with x stain?>mud: allow it to dry then brush off>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're goodno. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.>Are Thursdays any good?no.Manufacturer Red Flags>Luxury>Bespoke>Sustainable>Vegan>Unknown leather source>Made in Chyna/Mexico/IndonesiaBoot Red Flags>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)>C*rk/C*lastic>Zippers>Non gusseted tongues>Excessive/unnecessary seams>Combination/mixed material heelsBoot Brands NO>Turdsdays>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters>any Whatsapp makers in the far east>BlkbrdPREV >>18694486
>selvedge denim booti doubt cf stead crazy cow teacores to be on theme with denim fading
>>18716752why are these styles so ugly?
>>18716758>the proportions are all fucked up>the speedhooks are antiqued brass while the rest of the hardwear is nickel>the strap is completely unnecessary>the leather is too loud>the vamp is all cap toe>the heel counter is too short and too tall>the "selvedge" line is too aggressively angled>the midsole is too thick>the last has too little toe spring
>>18716724I only wear Lems bc of my back
>>18716796dunno what lems are supposed to be
if you tell chatgpjeet what shoe you're looking at getting and tell it all the sizes you wear in stuff you own, it gives pretty good sizing recsyou were just gonna scour reddit anyway, chat does it for you just saying
>>18717153it's gotten a lot better at sizing, still kind of iffy, though, struggles with widths a lotso clear that it overrelies on reddit because if you feed it your iron ranger size as the only reference it will size you compltely wrong in everything
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does water actually damage suede or are people retarded? I clean my shoes with suede cleaner and then rinse it off with water and was wondering if im actually fucking them up. People say it dries them which is fixable with conditioner after, or the nap gets lowered which is fixed with a brush which is again something you do afterwards anyway. So don’t get why they say it. Also how are you supposed to clean the lining if it is made of fabric if you’re not gonna use water.I dab them with a towel to draw the excess water. Someone let me know if you have any experience on this.
>>18717264when people talk about damaging suede its the low quality split suede that is thinner
>>18717265That doesn’t quite answer my question cause I have some suede/nubuck shoes that I don’t know the type of suede for. And even then what is the damage to thin ones.
>>18717264>suede lined with fabriclol
>>18717283Well it could be nubuck, but not smooth leather. If you just mean to snark at the lining this is just how some shoes are, so dno what to tell you bro go on snarking.
>>18717264nah it's fine if you just let it air dry and give it a brushing afterliterally the first thing i do when i get anything new in suede or roughout is soak it with the water hose and wear it until it dries. basically breaks them in immediately no damage at all. just give it a brush. if you're worried they make specific brushes for getting the nap back
>>18717264My suede boots went in seawater by accident and nothing happened. Dried out; better than before.
Tbh I've never been much a boot guy in my life but in this past year I've gotten boots from Viberg, John Lofgren, RM Williams and Red Wing and in all cases I've had to deal with heel blisters. Sizing down was too tight, sizing up was too loose.Are boots just not for me
Damn good to know.>>18717299>brushesThe wavy rubner and brass ones? I have a small one and I’ll ise it after they’ve dried. Saw on one bottle of suede cleaner that it recommended to give them a brish while wet too. >>18717315Did you do anything to them after? I imagine you must’ve at least rinsed out the salt stains.
>>18717349Don’t get how this is a boot specific issue, it’s just a fit issue no? You can either look for different lasts or maybe get a custom made pair or make changes to them like more insole if their are too loose.
>>18717350i dunno whichever one came in my shoe care kit. i have a very stiff bristle one that's great for getting the nap back
>>18717353i just know you look like the biggest faggot with those things
>>18717349pretty much all good leather shoes can and probably will give blisters. i like to do a couple hours the first day, 4 the next, 8 the next and after that they're usually broken in an i didn't get blistersi've got straight to 8+ hours with brand new boots and regretted it every single time
Moonshine cowboy boots makes roughout but I think their not good boots What to do
How long should it take to know if boots are the right size? If it is half a size too big would I know right away?The advice is to wear them around the house, but the websites say they won't accept returns/exchanges if there are creases in the leather or dust on the sole.
>>18717431you know the second you put it on
>>18717353Looks like the garbage that it is and with all these "good examples" he posts some shitter that rips itself apart in the backstay.
>>18717431as soon as you put them on, shoes should feel snug but not tight and definitely not uncomfortable even on the first wear
>>18717349What socks are you wearing?
>>18717353now try that again without crying
>>18717352I kinda feel like it's boot specific since I've never ever gotten foot blisters before wearing leather boots.>>18717362During every break in period I keep thinking "shit what if this doesn't get better.">>18717764Danish Endurance merino wool socks I got off Amazon, sometimes I layer them over thinner regular cotton socks and it helps.
You guys talk about boots and shoes and loafers and whatever but you never talk about belts, which are a matching compliment.
>>18717821There's not much to belts. Just get one that matches the color
>>18717837Well leather quality and price are two important factors, but also the buckle. Not all belts are good.
>>18717877Make your own. It's really easy
>>18717904I can't make my own belt, mud...
Find me better boots to wear during summer, I dare you
>>18717920there isn't really any other option i personally like my ranger mocs or unlined suede loafers
>>18717920We don't have to wear boots during summer, my mud from the hood.
Speaking of belts, roughly how long would it take for the color on these boots to become a darker brown? Should I even bother getting another belt if I want to be autistic about matching?
>>18717937couple of months depending how much you wear themnatural chromexcel is pretty characteritic and pull-up leathers are difficult to color match, unless you get the exact same leather belt
>>18717821I had bought a Hank's belt a while back when I was tired of my shitty belts falling apart after a few months. Not sure if it's new ownership or what but the website was full of pop-ups and spam the last time I visited it looking to get another belt in a different color and size I just gave up.Hank's 100 year belt. Going to just resize the one I have and avoid their website from now on.
>>18717265Nonsense. Plenty of good suede like CF stead is split. Raw split hide on the flesh side is still easily 2mm, stop parroting bloggers shit.
>>18717353>rightoid dogwhistleplease
>>18718147>the website was full of pop-ups and spamYeah just opened the website and I hate that shit. They do have cool belts though.
>>18718232Any website that IMMEDIATELY shows a popup asking for your email or to get a discount or whatever else is a yikes from me dawg. And anything with the stupid chatbot icon, or basically anything that begs you for your information I don't like supporting those kinds of low quality shit sites
>>18718265I've instantly noped out of so many of these websites, but I feel like I may be cucking myself out of cool items. Maybe it's time to embrace minimalism.
>>18717821>>18718147https://torinoleather.com/belts/big fan of these guys. made in USA, very fair prices, great quality. i got 8 years out of dailying one of their belts before it just got too worn out the belt Ryan Gosling wore in Drive is from them lmao that's how i learned about the company
>>18718275>can't filter by colorDogshit website no thanks.
>>18718294that washed chromexcel actually looks great
>>18718364People are hating on these boots for the price and that's completely justified, and the leather sole isn't my first choiceBut otherwise I think these are excellent looking boots. I like the pebbled shaft and the 55 last looks great
>>18718294couldn't you just do a nomad, ask them to remove the lower strap and do single row stitching and basically have the same boot?
>>18718221cf stead's marketshare is tiny compared to the shitty suede
>>18718375think the pebble grain is exclusive to that makeup?
I know some guys here will probably call me a faggot but I kinda want these.They're sold out in stores everywhere but a guy nearby has these BNIB around my size.Problem is I don't have a pair of engineers either and I want one of those too. I'd get black engineers since that's the standard/classic choice for engineers but I somehow ended up with more black boots than brown and wanna balance it out.
>>18718147> belts falling apart after a few monthsWhat? I've used even shitty $20 primark leather belts for like probably 1000+ wears easilyHow do you break a belt?!
>>18718537Manual labor in FL. Heat, rain and humidity plus a lot of friction from boxes and movement. Target belts were falling apart at the seams and had a few where the buckle broke off. Since I switched to this one about 8 years ago it's held up great, being a solid piece of leather and the buckle is steel looped through the leather. I could really use a brown belt though, the one I got is all black to match my uniform at the time and could probably use a size 30-31 now since I'm on the last rung for a 32.
>>18718462>generalizationThat's retarded of you. Can't change or refute the fact that there is nothing wrong with split suede when it's made right.If you buy shitty suede without doing research, that's on you for being a mega retard.
can someone point me in a direction of some quality brands? looking for something durable and for everyday use. rocking these but they're falling apart
>>18718496Yes you're a fag. Engineer boots were popularized by gay leather daddies too and intended as a gay dogwhistle so you're double gay.
>>18718496Yeah these are gay dogshit. Zipper. Super high heel for a low shoe. Toe bug on a made up gayass shoe. I'm not fucking with these.
>>18718463probably i actually like pebble grain a lot. it really grew on me
>>18718496please do not get these anon. they're gay as fuck and the zipper makes it even worse
>>18716724I need durable boots, my shoes are falling apart.Budget is 250€ with some wiggle room I guess.Me:>Not /effay/ at all>6'2">300lbsYeah I know, but down from 320. Also I lift (bloatmaxxer)>Yuro 46/47 size, US 12/13My usual fit:Everything black.>black t-shirt if it's hot>with open black shirt over t-shirt if it's warm>with black zipper hoodie over t-shirt if it's cool>with grey coat over hoodie if it's cold>black jeans, sometimes tech-wear pants, sometimes suit pants>black leather belt, but I don't tuck in my shirts so it's not really visible>black shoes (duh) and socksSometimes:>Blue jeans instead of blackWhat I need:>black boots>comfortable enough to wear all day with wide feet>durable as possible for 250€ish>preferably no synthetic materials and chemicals / PFAS>should have sleek, classy, clean lines; shouldn't look like a freaky sex toy>no zippers, no velcro>should handle the occasional hike or 20km+ walk>insoles should be replaceableDoesn't need to be /out/ tier, I would go and buy brass wire moccasins if I had 700€+ for shoes anyways.At the chance that you guys lynch me: The last boots I enjoyed were Palladium Pampa Recycle Metro (pic rel), but they were so atrocious, my mother threw them away when I visited topkek.I also wouldn't buy them again because I've started absolutely hating everything plastic since then.
>>18716724Regular Shoe trees useful for boots?
i see a lot of shit to NOT buy in the OP, but not any likerecommended brands or styles
>>18719085grant stone parkhurst
>>18719085what are you into? they industry is so big and varied you really gotta help narrow it down
Any good sites to buy some French Ranger Boots other than Fleabay ?
Does anyone else find dark olive to be a weird color
>>18719114idk tbqh im not the most fashionable guy in the worldi have some dark brown timbs that I wear to work sometimesjust looking for something thats got some height to it that you can wear casually, I'm not into like posh oxford type shit I like vintage workwear and stuff that I can wear with normal clothes
>>18719141I've lost my sources since 2022 when I got mine, but I found my old posts in the archives plus check this website. The posts talk about austrian paramemes too, so don't get them confused.https://cartalana.com/002-13.php
>>18719182Well yeah it looks like literal baby shit.
>>18718462I mean if you're gonna go by marked volume then most of the leather out there is mystery meat garbage regardless, because relatively very few people will pay the $200+ or possibly $300+ for footwear with decent construction and materials.
>>18719066Jim Green is about the cheapest brand recommended here and should be fairly durable, they also tend to be very wide. Ugly as fuck though.
>>18719182it'd not brown enough and not green enough. it's just an ugly baby poop green that doesn't look good with anything
clinch calls this a chukka boot for whatever reason, but not their george boots, which are actual 3-eyelet boots
>>18719746japs cannot into english
>>18719182>>18719554>>18719709I have them and it really just looks like plain light brown in person without any hint of green. It's closer to natural CXL that's aged for a while than olive.And how is regular poop worse than baby poop
>>18719819>And how is regular poop worse than baby poopFuck I meant it the other way around obviously lol
>>18719819>>18719820>And how is regular poop worse than baby poopBecause their diet is all or mostly breast milk it's mostly just wet and squishy and has a very strong, almost sweet, smell to it. It's often green Anyone that's been a parent or around newborns knows that baby poop is different from regular poop.t. A dad
>>18719819>how is regular poop worse than baby poopThere's plenty of brown that isn't shit but greenish brown is something that you will physically gag after experiencing in person a couple of times because its all baby shit.
Is under armor a good brand for shoes?
>>18719939>Is under armor a good brand for shoes?fuck off
>>18719614>Ugly as fuck though.You weren't lying.Been locking at other brands (Nickboots, RedWing, White's, Tricker's, Wesco) and holy shit everything is expensive asf.Are these (pic rel) any good? I mean they also look kinda whack (from above), but at least not as bad as AR:https://www.birkenstock.com/de/highwood-mid-waterproof-natural-leather/highwoodlace-waterproof-naturalleather-S005252-rubber-u_1.html
Thoughts on waxed flesh?
>>18719612which goes back to my original point that due to low market share when people ask about shit suede its not about cf stead but the retard doesn't get it
>>18719939are they a historical bootmaker like White's? no
>>18720466good with lugged solesthat's too "put together" a boot for a waxed flesh imo
Been loving these Nocona rainboots for puddle-jumping lately. The lining gives me a ton of dopamine.
>>18720526>I know they’re looking a bit worse for wear… I’ve wised up and gotten myself some mink oil, beeswax, and saddle soap to try and fix that.
>>18718537Not OP, but I’ve broken a few leather belts by wearing them to festivals, sweating or got caught in Faygo Armageddon, and then returned to camp to find my belt disintegrating at the end of the day. Now I only wear fabric belts or cheaper ones to those.
I had to google how to tie laces again when I got my new boots in since I've spent the past 20+ years wearing slip-ons and pull-ons.
Bros I've realized that sneakers make me look like a manchild so I came hereI've never worn boots, so I don't know anything about brands or anything like that; I assume americans and yuros make the best ones. So which brands do you recommend, or what should I look for in a pair that I want to wear in my daily life?Something that isn't too expensive would be helpful...
>>18720577Bro like over 90% of the people out on the street wear sneakers, whether they look good or not aside I'd say a fair amount of them can pass off as not being a manchild. As long as the rest of the fit matches and you're not dressed like the Harry Dresden doorbell guy you should be fine.That aside, Red Wing is the standard entry level bang for buck brand when it comes to boots. Not sure if ~$300 counts as inexpensive though in this case. Also just in case, get some moleskin or leukotape for your feet, heels specifically, whenever you begin breaking in new boots.
>>18720595Thanks, $300 is a little more expensive than I imagined, but I guess that's to be expected if you want to buy leather.By the way, that was just my edgy way of saying I'm sick of wearing the same five pairs of sneakers and want to try something new
>>18720595Harry Dresden famously wore flip-flops. I know because I will be one of the forty guys you will see dressed as Harry Dresden for Halloween this year.
>>18720577I recommend finding out what your actual size is before anything. I hate to presume shit about strangers, but in general most people that only ever wore sneakers and sandals don't know what their actual shoe size is. Not just the number, but width as well which again, most of the populace don't seem aware that feet and footwear come in different widths. Along the similar lines, knowing if high- or low-volume foot (or in-step) will temper your expectations of how the shoe will look on your foot.
>>18720604Just buy something you think looks good and/or ask for opinion on specific boots. I'd suggest a pair of chukka/desert boots, there are many options, can be found for cheap. Causal, but you get a more grown up look compared to sneakers.People here are interested in quality boots which, like many niche hobbies, is a deep rabbit hole and not worth your time if you're not really interested to learn more. Proper boots and shoes cost more because because they're much more labor intensive than sneakers. There are many more hands-on steps in the construction. $300 is the minimum for something decent if you know where to look.
>>18720577Depends entirely on what kind of climate you live in and what you do in your daily life.
>>18716724Are Solovairs really that shit?
I don't need to wear boots because I'm not poor
>>18719614>Jim GreenI've looked into them a bit more, they don't ship black boots to Germany for some reason?
>>18721033Their EU online store is literally run by a German retailer, wtf you mean they don't ship something to Germany?
Oh Addict is going to be restocking their engineer bootsDunno if I want black or brown horsebutt
>>18721058>wtf you mean they don't ship something to Germany?Means they don't sell any Razorbacks in Black. At all.https://jimgreenfootwear.eu/de/produkt-kategorie/all-de-2/>STRG+F [sic]>"Razorback - Black">0 ErgebnisseIf I want a razorback, that'll be either Brown, Fudge or with a Steel Toe Cap in whatever dark brown this is: https://jimgreenfootwear.eu/de/store/razorback-stc/
>>18721316i want to see these broken in a creased and wrinkled. they look like shit new, same with all boots
Why can't Viberg use vibram soles and add speed hooks
>>18721347viberg is a fashion brand so they don't care*increases the spi of your "work" boots
>>18721347Fuck speed hooks. What they should do is give up on their stupid looking high spi stitchdown and just do welted. Like these>https://deeceestyle.ch/products/viberg-service-boot-distressed-rawhide-leather>https://deeceestyle.ch/products/viberg-marine-field-v2-service-boot
What are all the PNW brands? WescoWhitesNicksVibergFranksJK Do we count Truman which is now based out of Oregon?We we still count Dayton (Now Wohlford because the new owners don't have the rights to the name Dayton)?
>>18721356Rawhide looks cool even though they’re unlined suede which I’m kinda iffy on
>>18716724Are grant stones any good? They're made in China but I actually really like the look of these and can't find any similar looking options elsewhere
Solovair's decline is so bad Doc Martens are actual the better option now if you absolutely want that style
>>18721611>Are grant stones any good?yes
>>18721611They were always good, you just had to get over made in China if that was an issue for you. Because they were made in China the prices were way low compared to comparable American and EU brandsBut then the tarrifs shit happened and they jacked their prices way up, even before the tarrifs went in place, and then they just kept raising and raising them and now there's no reason to get them anymore. They're expensive as fuck for made in China when you can get made in USA for near the same price now
>>18720577red wing blacksmiths are a perfectly good entry point>>18721079black is always zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>18721367>We we still count Daytonno because their boots are white labeled canada west boots
>>18721756>They're expensive as fuck for made in China when you can get made in USA for near the same price nowwoah woah woah you're saying trump is right about tariffs?
>>18721814Trump was so wrong about tarrifs every single person told him he was a retard and they finally repealed all of them because of how bad they were
>>18720466distinctive without being too gimmicky, super low maintenance, not a scratch magnet like it would seem initailly, scuffs and scratches you don't want can be easily laid back down and brushed in, if it gets too shaggy you can just recondition with a waxier conditionerdoesn't crease since it's roughout, develops nice rolls maybe not as dramatic as some horsehides or shell, quite stiff at first for a chromexcel derivative but softens up"patina monster" but it comes gradually and you got to work for it, people that get massive contrast in months are faking itnot a lot of variety as far as colors, dark brown is the best imo, cinammon looks disgusting worn in
>>18721347brett viberg said outright that he hates the look of the yellow logo on vibram soles and that goes against his idea of "refinement"
>>18721367there is also drews, which may or may not count, since they only make some of their boots in the US and some in mexicobut so does jk and they are on the list
>>18721914> hates the look of the yellow logo on vibram solesWHO CARES ABOUT WHAT’S IN THE SOLES LMFAOOOOOO RETARDED SUBHUMAN LEAF
>>18721925PNW is seen as as much a style of boot as much as one made in the PNW united states
>>18721914brett is a fucking retard who made his shoes unable to be resoled because he wanted his "work" boots to be dress boots
i'm in a phase where i'm only interested in pull-on boots. engineers, cowboy boots, ropers, doesn't matter as long as it has no laces
What do I use if I just want to deal with a scratch on a relatively new black horsehide boot there are like a gorillion different Saphir products
>>18721956how about just not dealing with the scratch because it will get a million more and it's not a big deal?
I'm looking for a pair of black dress shoes for work and found EGs piccadillys. I wasn't considering loafers before because I didn't like the shape and look until I saw the EGs.For the EGs, I really like the narrower shape and minimalist lines/stitching. It makes it look more professional enough for work and nicer formal events.Is there any dupes of similar silhouettes as EGs?
>>18722073idk why the pic got fucked uppic related
>>18722073Check TLB Mallorca, maybe they have something.
