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The watch general. For all watches.
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>>18767030
wouldn't it be better if you had 115 fish in that tank instead of a few cool fish? better value anon. much like your ugg bedspreads from kohls
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Hello gents.
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>>18767040
Why have you still not learned how to post an upright image?
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>>18767042
Its not my fault. 4chin turned my image without my consent.
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Ahh there's nothing like getting ready to enjoy a nice ribeye steak while wearing my Hercules tungsten watch.
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Wtf. Why does it keep turning my picture?
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>>18767049
>>18767050
And it will keep doing that until you learn to resize them. Why do you keep doing it? No one likes seeing that. Fucking retard. How many times are you going to post that? We already saw it in the last fucking thread.
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>>18767040
>>18767050
i see you are deleting posts, shittercel. did you not like my joke about 115 fish?
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>>18767053
Why do I have to resize them? Thats what's really retarded.

Haha. I've fucked up youre thread again and also managed to get under your skin. How delightful.
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>>18767053
I don't know what you're talking about
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>>18767054
Hey, you figured it out.
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>>18767050
Ummm That steak is raw so don’t eat it.
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Dont worry. I've figured out the key to posting pictures in the correct orientation. One most hold thier phone in landscape mode. This is how its done. Also my ribeye is coming along nicely. But it will need more time.
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>>18767059
That's quite enough.
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>>18767060
Dont mind me. Im just a wealthy American cooking a ribeye steak at 12 am on my Weber searwood 600 smoker grill while wearing my Android Hercules Tungsten watch. Its nothing to brag about really. My steak won't even be ready to flip for another 5 minutes.
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>>18767062
Shit I forgot the landscape mode.
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>>18767062
> Its nothing to brag about really.

You and I are finally on the same page, my friend.
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Well. I know youre all so excited about this. I flipped it.
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Ribeye is a steak that needs time to cook. The fat has to be rendered. This takes time...
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The ribeye has reached an internal temperature of about 140°f. Im gonna call this good and let it rest for a bit.
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Well. It looks pretty good. I hope i didnt overdo this. I guess its medium well? Its definitely edible
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>>18767072
>>18767074
It's overcooked. Fuck off now.
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What an embarrassing watch to keep posting. Strange trolls we have here.
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>>18767072
Paper plate. What a trashy human.
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>>18767074
The steak was good but I messed it up a little bit. The freezer treatment is sorta harsh on ribeye. It dries it out. I also may have overcooked this a little bit. Too hot too fast. The ribeye probably likes a slow and low cook. So next time. No freezer preservation and do slow and low to 135° or 140°f. Perhaps that will yield a better result.
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>>18767084 #
That was just to move it off the grill. I actually ate it off the cutting board. It was good. I downed the whole thing. That wasnt my favorite ribeye though. Its either my smoker grill or cooking method. Im not sure.. It just wasnt my fav..

I dont think ribeye does as well after its been frozen for while. Ribeye is my favorite steak but that one I just made was meh...
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>>18767087
>won't even be ready to flip for another 5 minutes
>No grill marks
>Thick grey band on the outside
...
>Too hot too fast. The ribeye probably likes a slow and low cook.
Not even close. You need to cook it hotter and faster. You also need to get better taste in watches.
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Ok after eating my overdone ribeye I'm off to bed. Happy labour day.
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>>18767096
Lol. All of this is true. Good remarks. I dont really wear this Hercules tungsten alot. Its more of a novelty watch for trolling on 4chan. Ok gnight. Its back to wage slaving for me tomorrow. Im sure to have a hell of a hangover.
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Marketing thread by Eastern European faggots.
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Need a silver watch with dark red accents to fit a gothic aesthetic. not a troll post, rec some actual nice watches please
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>>18767136
Seiko Cocktail time Negroni
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>>18767054
It's because your phone saves all photos "vertical" and includes the correct rotation as metadata. It does this to save time and battery when taking pictures. Your camera's physical sensor is vertical and if it had to actually rotate every horizontal photo when saving it, it would be laggy and slow because that's a heavy operation. So instead it just saves it how it is and adds a note that says to rotate it in the viewer. But 4chan strips metadata (purposely) from the photos so that leaves it shown in its true orientation.
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Finally, just a decent fucking watch with everything a growing boy needs.
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I got this pink rubber thing for my casioak and it fits my hand better but I get weird feelings and I'm willing to bet it's toxic. It's some fkm o algo. I wish it was normal silicon. I'm fine with these but no it's some fansy shit I can't wear. Fuck. Every single watch I have after the one I got from a shop after trying it on my hand has been shit for one reason or another. buying watches online is beyond retarded.
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>>18767190
Wtf is a pink rubber thing
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>>18767194
https://warosu.org/fa/thread/18713032#p18713225
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quartz mech makers need to make this watch:

ticks smoothly (at least 4 HZ) when worn
second hand is not ticking at all when not worn (simple sensor)
when equipped - second hand catches up to where it needs to be
solar powered

Ticking wastes power alright, but it doesnt need to tick when its in the closet or on the stand.
Easy save battery + get the sweep that I after all love and crave in a watch. Best of both worlds, battery can now keep up and I get the smooth sweep to enjoy.

If someone high up makes it, Id be interested.

Simple enough mechanically to pull off, wouldnt add much cost to produce etc, wouldnt even be risky or detrimental to watch.

But it would probably open up to quartz part of watch industry, a lot of people who miss the sweep but dont want to be limited to Bulova, GS and few cheaper Seikos.

Seriously. Make that watch you lurking big watch corpo man.
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>>18767230
or even can make it a special key that engages the second hand into smooth sweep.

and if you press it - it sweeps, if not - it rests at 12 position.

Would be a bit nastier and less elegant but with enough marketing it can be made into a feature not a bug lol

Ideally tho I want it to be automatic engage when worn.
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Kofe time
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The library is open today.
You know what that means! Yes. I have access to 1/2Chan today.
So there is a guaranteed certainty you will be forced to look at, yet another, Navitimer.
This one is from 1964, AND is just under 5k
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this is fake isn’t it
wtf
why don’t we as a people execute people who make fake things so it stops happening
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>>18767230
I second that. Someone should make a solar powered SMOOTH SWEEPING seconds hand quartz movement. The solar can easily provide the energy for that.
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>>18767233
Neat. Those screws would bother me though.
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>>18767269
Yeah, fuck 'em.

Oh, SCREWS. I thought you said something else.
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I like this watch but I think the band looks dorky. What band would you guys pair with it?
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>>18767269
>>18767277
The screws are cool though
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>>18767290
Wow, an unfinished movement.
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i like these, scrummy
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sexo
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as bright as the mfing sun
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da new one
p scrummy
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>>18767067
SHOCK SURPRISE
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>>18767307
That is admittedly a pretty sexy watch.
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>>18767322
I love that super clean B R I G H T look
The Navitimer is typically a very noisy watch, which I also like, given the context is it’s many functions.
BUT I must say if I was aiming for that clean fresh bright look, I’d go pic related.
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still looking for my saul goodman watch. leaning towards gold with light dial at the moment, because I have a lot of dark dial watches already. however, this seiko presage looks too dressy and not gaudy enough I think
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>>18767333
saul goodman would have a hot rolex given to him as payment by criminal
i only watched season 1 : |
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>>18767333
If you can't afford a solid gold watch don't waste your time with gold colored watches. They all look like shit. It's real gold or steel, that's it.
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>>18767233
I dislike the name and logo of the company and the fact that it was only assembled in great britain fuck that shit i only buy 100% british made
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>>18767340
platinum looks comfy
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>>18767334
>>18767333
two tone rootbeer for sure
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>>18767190
Right. They're making straps out of "toxic" rubber that's dangerous to our health. Legally.
And you discovered it.

Fucking schizo piece of shit. Fuck you.
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>>18767285
>>18767286
>>18767290
We got plenty of shots of your stupid new watch in the last thread.
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>>18767356
>https://pubs.acs.org/estlcu/article-abstract/12/1/25/3676370/Presence-of-Perfluorohexanoic-Acid-in?redirectedFrom=fulltext
>"Perfluorohexanoic acid (PFHxA) was the most frequently detected compound"

pfhxa is largely banned in europe

>https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=OJ:L_202402462
>"Undecafluorohexanoic acid (PFHxA), its salts and PFHxA-related substances (2) have a combination of hazardous properties.... has potential adverse effects on human health"

there are other pfas and forever chemicals associated with fkm and other rubbers as well.

it turns out you are the schizo, you have no knowledge of the world, and are a faggot.
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>>18767359
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>>18767291
Come on, it's not just an unfinished movement.
It's also undersized, and the most basic automatic architecture with the rotor removed.
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Kofé time.
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>>18767359
Who the fuck wants go to europe lmfao poorrrrrrrrr
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Cosmonaute
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I used to like navitimers but after months of this spam I'm over it.
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And what's wrong with Fossil watches again? Why would you need anything more than this? And it's under 200 dollars.
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>>18767393
I never did. They're way too busy, to
a truly absurd degree.
And the reason they're so retardedly busy, the stupid slide ruler, is as much of a stupid larp and gimmick as the seiko alpinist's retarded little compass.
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>>18767357
Okay, what do you have to show us? Anything?
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>>18767410
cause it looks like something a poorfag would buy.
At least get a citizen or seiko.
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>>18767410
Why is it 10:10 and yet the 24 hour subdial conflicts with that?
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>>18767333
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>>18767416
It's an analog watch. Nobody cares which brand you're wearing. Most people these days whether rich or poor wear a smartwatch anyway.
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Beater
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Good evening gents
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hey /fa/ggots, I just bought the basic tools and a ST36 movement to start in the watch repair hobby, according to that Watch Repair Tutorials guy
now I just have to wait some 2 long weeks until everything arrives
I'm a huge nerd for mechanical stuff and a somewhat fast learner
how long do you guys think it would take for me to properly learn how to repair simple automatic watches then those with daydate (like old Seiko 5s) or a GMT complication?
I'm not anxious, just curious
also would like some tips on the hobby if you'd like to share
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R8 my turboshitter Timex Auto
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>>18767443

I have “built” a few “mods,” which is pretty easy. However when it came to actually working on the movements I found it painstaking. Don’t cheap out on a loupe. The screws / pieces to the movements are unfathomably small and without proper magnification you aren’t going to be able to do anything
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Can someone identify the Cartier watch in this image? I was thinking it might be a woman’s steel Santos. It would definitely have to be Cartier as it was for a Cartier gala event.
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>>18767419
It's the hour counter for the chronograph
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>>18767466
Ah, yes. Because that comes in handy.
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>>18767468
If you have reasons to long how many hours you did something in a week or something like that, yeah.
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>>18767472
to long?
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>>18767410
nothing wrong
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>>18767473
Way too long.
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>>18767410
Aint nuthin wrong wit a mall watch if you mall watch type man
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>>18767487
What makes one a mall watch man? Can I learn this power?
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>>18767448
like how much magnification?
I know it's very personal, but I bought a 2.5x magnification loupe (Bergeon 2611 N4) because I've used those eyesocket loupes before and I used to get dizzy from too much magnification and the exaggerated fast movements
>Don’t cheap out on a loupe
I'll never cheap out on tools
got the good stuff, just not like fucking Dumont's $35 tweezers and shit
>"built"
>"mods"
>quotation marks
why?
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>>18767468
Baking?
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>>18767492
Why would you be timing baking? You'd need a countdown alarm timer for knowing when it's done.
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>>18767493
Brainlet
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>>18767493
Well you usually know when to start looking because it smells done, so you're not going to just forget. Also the multi hour chrono is good when rising dough because it just needs to be 4-6 hours but the exact time isn't crucial
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>>18767314
You should call her
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>>18767285
>>18767286
>>18767290
>>18767233
thanks for sharing anon. that looks great. enjoy it :) care to post a pic of the lume?
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>>18767422
yep, that's the black dial one. here's the other one from breaking bad. I'm fine with finding my own version that appeals to me personally, and is in the same spirit

>>18767340
I agree with you. In the end it's a just for fun gimmick for me, so I'm fine with it looking worse than an actual gold watch
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>>18767236
Damn bro

$5k for a beat up POS? I’m sure u can buy a new one for less than a quarter of that
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>>18767441
you can see the crown guard digs in your hand
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>>18767530
yea but hes married so it clearly doesnt fucking matter
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>>18767443
Watchmaker here, a few pointers for you
>start with a Unitas/6498 movement or a clone of it
It's the caliber that's used as a starting point for a lot of schools because it's big, it's very straight-forward, it's very legible, and there's really not much you can mess up aside from the hairspring
>oooh but it's not in any of the watches I have
Trust me.
>it's a pocket watch movement
Trust. Me.
>but I want to do some automatics aaaaaah
TRUST ME.
You do not yet have the fine motricity to oil an escapement, you just don't. Hence starting on a big caliber where the "difficulty" is that the bridges are heavy and cumbersome to manipulate with your tweezers.

>if doing actual repairs, know when to give up
I'll be honest with you : a lot of actual workshops can't perform all repairs and will give you stuff that's either not overhauled as deeply as it could, or will replace parts without telling you because to do every type of repair or correction, you need a whole ton of very expensive single-purpose tools and machines. If viable commercial workshops can't afford it all, neither can you.
There is also a lot of not at all obvious stuff that can go wrong and that you won't even know to look for. That's fine. You'll have to live with the sub-280 degree amplitude because you don't have the magnification to spot a slightly scraped pivot, nor do you have the tools to polish it or replace it without replacing the entire wheel.
(contt.)
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(cont.)
>if doing actual repairs, know when to give up
I'll be honest with you : a lot of actual workshops can't perform all repairs and will give you stuff that's either not overhauled as deeply as it could, or will replace parts without telling you because to do every type of repair or correction, you need a whole ton of very expensive single-purpose tools and machines. If viable commercial workshops can't afford it all, neither can you.
There is also a lot of not at all obvious stuff that can go wrong and that you won't even know to look for. That's fine. You'll have to live with the sub-280 degree amplitude because you don't have the magnification to spot a slightly scraped pivot, nor do you have the tools to polish it or replace it without replacing the entire wheel.

>learn operations, not schematics
If you actually want to do services and repairs, the most useful skill you can have is understanding your operations. Because if you simply follow a technical sheet like an indian, you will limit yourself to only working on stuff where documentation is available in the first place, and you'll be dependent on what the documents tell you. You're dealing with a weird variant of a caliber with a power reserve indicator and you have no technical sheet for it ? Tough.
If you can learn your base principles of how a caliber works, if you can follow torque and understand your geartrain, and if you know what your adjustments and oils do, you'll spot the sliding parts and know where to grease them and you won't really need much documentation anyway.
(cont.)
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(cont.)
>take photos ov everything, be organized in your dismantling and assembly
Sometimes, two very similar looking screws have a minute difference that can mean a plate won't be held correctly and parts will be able to slip (hello 2824 dial-side, how's it goin ?). Keep everything organized. Take photos so you know what goes where. Keep parts together when they are supposed to go together. Wash parts in order since you're not under any deadline and have no quota or margin to follow.

>pick another hobby
Watch repair is not fun and it is not satisfactory.
It just isn't.
There is no magical moment where it all comes back to life, but there are a lot of checks at every point where stuff can shit the bed for a variety of reasons you won't even get to spot before it's too late.
The only reason I could see picking it up as a hobby is thinking you'll save money by servicing your own watches. A bunch of my clients fall for it and come back after they lost a capstone, saw there was no way to get a replacement because suppliers don't work with private customers and are on the whole extremely annoying, and then saw the price of a jewel driver by Horia (without attachments)
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>>18767545
>>18767547
>>18767548
thanks for the lengthy response
>start with a Unitas/6498 movement or a clone of it
I already bought a ST36 (Unitas 6497 clone) because that's what WRT guy recommended to follow along with the tutorials, but I'll get a Unitas 6498 movement to practice on ASAP, thanks for the tip
having different calibers will certainly help me with this:
>learn operations, not schematics
I'm a curious person and can't stand memorizing stuff, I love actually learning the 'how' and 'why' of things
my father's and my grandfather's job (and my great grandfather's before that) is repairing industrial printers, and I've worked with them for ~2 years, and learning operations and how they translate to other machines is key
>if doing actual repairs, know when to give up
that's good advice
sometimes you just gotta take a break and come back fresh, and sometimes things are not fixable at all
no problems with that
>take photos ov everything, be organized in your dismantling and assembly
always
>pick another hobby
>Watch repair is not fun and it is not satisfactory.
>It just isn't.
trust me, I'll have fun lol
>The only reason I could see picking it up as a hobby is thinking you'll save money by servicing your own watches
if I cared about saving money I wouldn't get into hobbies at all, I'm not being "money driven", I just wanna learn how watches work, and eventually be able to buy not working movements and fix them and gift them to friends and stuff
My current watches won't need to be serviced for the next 7-10 years anyway
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>>18767603
6498 and 6497 are the same caliber, only difference is the orientation of the keyless works to have the stem come out at 12 or at 3.
Once you know that one well enough, you can try and get into automatics with the 2824, though it's a bit of a jump up in difficulty. The smaller parts of the Unitas are the size of the largest ones in the 2824. But as far as automatics go, it's one of the more straight-forward ones. Problem now is finding clones.
I don't recommend Seiko calibers until you're able to reliably work on some simple autos. They are built pretty differently with everything on the same side of the baseplate, which makes the movement more vertical in structure and weird to perform checks in for that reason. So if something goes wrong in a part you've already assembled several steps back, you'll have a lot to undo. Also means that problems can snowball.
>can't stand memorizing stuff
Buddy.
BUDDY.
Memorizing where the backwards screws are, what oils come where, what operations you've done previously and how it's going to interact with what you'll do next is the hard part of watchmaking.
Fine motricity isn't as hard as many think. It's difficult to learn but once it's there, it's there. Watchmaking is a series of knowlege checks more than anything.
>did you know this screw is slightly longer than the two other screws on that bridge ?
>do you remember which holes it goes into ?
>you don't ?
>congratulations, you've lifted your function selector dial-side and damaged it !
This - and the prices of everything - is why watch repair is a job, not a hobby.
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>>18767096
No way man. Ribeye has to cook slow. All the fat in there needs time to render. Its a steak which is not possible to cook rare. I think mine came put so bad because I just had it wrapped in foil in my freezer. If its gotta be frozen, vacuum sealed is the way to go. I was also very drunk when I cooked that. I might have done a bad job on top of other issues. I was way too drunk at the time to bother with looking up instructions.
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>>18767654
I like it rare. I don't mind "unrendered" fat.
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>>18767654
>Its a steak which is not possible to cook rare
complete bullshit as usual shittercel. alone in your hovel you drunkenly poorly cook steaks and looking at your hoard of the lowest tier watches in the world before passing out on with your 100% polyester fleece ugg bedspread. life has no meaning for you
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>>18767379
NAZI TIME
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>>18767382
sexo

pic related. why do the owners and moderators of places ruin it for the users no matter the platform, niche, or location on the internet. Guess i’ll make 6 individual comments, all with no posting ID bc trans jans are incompetent retards high on oestrogen
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>>18767410
Get Junghans
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>>18767440
brown
>>18767441
absolutely revolting
>>18767484
pre iphone tech is so comfy and nostalgic
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>>18767654
gay
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Navitimer of the day is this 2004 in scrummy gold which is going for 12 thousand dollerays
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>>18767673
sexo
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>>18767410
Henlo Mr Fren,

I often make ethical, environmental, and overall criticism of society in relation to luxury, and excess.
That watch was made by slave labor somewhere in Asia, and probably at great cost to the planet earth. If you want something new, made in the environmental ethical madhouse, that is Germany, for a price that it costs to pay your western brother a fair price, and is manufactured under strict environment regulations. Get the Junghans like I said.
If you’re strictly limited to your 200$ budget, there are LOADS of vintage watches where the labor and energy spent to create it happened long ago, and do not carry the ego driven status of many of the watches people post here.
When being critical of things at the higher ends of the spectrum, it’s important to remember this is where innovation occurs, and where ordinary people hold good jobs in western countries.
Pic related you can have two : 3
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Rusty delight needs rugged brown leather strap
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an entire thread of ugly watches, grim
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>>18767447
Nice.
I was thinking in buying the one with the stainless steel dial and black numerals, but it's sold out/not available in my country
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>>18767688
AHEM
>>18767673
>>18767331
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>>18767623
>6498 and 6497 are the same caliber
oh cool, didn't know that, thanks!
>Once you know that one well enough, you can try and get into automatics with the 2824
thanks, I'm taking notes of all this info for later on, you're being really helpful
I'm very diligent and patient, I'll only move on to another movement once I'm able to "disassemble and reassemble the watch without consulting anything" as the old guy from WRT recommends (I think his name's Alex)
>can't stand memorizing stuff
okay I expressed myself very poorly kek
I was talking about memorizing stuff in the sense of an educational line, like many schools still do today, instead of actually critically thinking and pondering about the subject
Like when people memorize that "the French Revolution happened in 1789 and their motto was Liberté, Égalité et Fraternité" but they can't explain what the fuck the French Revolution was actually about or even what "fraternity" means aside from a bunch of upper-middle class faggots getting shitfaced at uni
Of course it's good to be able to memorize info in a manner that you can articulate into a cohesive line of thought, like fundamentally understanding that there should be a mechanism to stop the mainspring from unfolding backwards rather than merely memorizing that "this is where part 311-A goes"
So yeah I'm not like... against remembering stuff with ease or something

>(cont.)
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>>18767712
>(cont.)
>Watchmaking is a series of knowlege checks more than anything.
The two things go hand in hand, "memorizing" (as in remembering) and applying that knowledge thoughtfully
Someone who's great at memorizing might be incredible at disassembling and reassembling the most complicated watches, but if there's no underlying understanding of it, you can show them a Seiko daydate and they'll not be able to do it simply because they've never seen it before (even if slightly different in looks but identical in terms of purpose), and therefore don't >know how it works
>This - and the prices of everything - is why watch repair is a job, not a hobby.
Getting frustrated and having to deal with things going south isn't a turndown for me (on the contrary)
>I love stress
the prices of everything is what scares me the most, but I can deal with not having access to practice and work on multiple perpetual calendars or the tools required to do so, just as I can't afford to own many watches as well
I'll work on what I have access to
>This [...] is why watch repair is a job, not a hobby.
it can be a hobby
just not to the extent of what a professional in watch repair will cover (i.e. when it's a job), sure
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Fuck off, this is boring.
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>>18767714
complains content is boring
does not post interesting content
perhaps you are gay and retarded
have you considered this
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>>18767717
Shut the fuck up, you loony hobo bitch. You smell bad and look filthy. Get your life together and stop posting gay ruler watches from under a bridge.
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>>18767719
i like bill bc i know he is secretly racist and often funny, even if he is wrong about lots of stuff
BRUH, imagine using your classic watch to make calculations on your classic moped. like fuel economy or doing the timing or something OR you could see how accurate the 50 year old+ speedometer is : 3
i get excited just thinking about
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>>18767723
Dang. As unhinged and antisemitic as you can be you are right about Bill Maher. He’s one of the few democrats in 2026 that is not too far gone.
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>>18767658
Kek. Thats so funny. I wish I had your humor. Hey, might get a good watch someday.
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>>18767658
Don't beleive me? Go to a restaurant and order a rare ribeye. Get ready to see some raised eyebrows and then be served in inedible steak. Other steaks are great rare, even ideally rare.. just not ribeyes.
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late for work
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do you guys actually wear your watches or do you only save jpegs of the most expensive ones you'll never have?

>55 images itt
>18 of people actually wearing the watches
>literally 1/3rd of them are one single troll
>2 of them are Saul fucking Goodman

>24 photos of watches
>11 are stock photos
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>>18767752
I have some watches but I rarely wear them
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>>18767752
I wear a watch nearly every day, i post often too.
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>>18767752

A recent outfit. The hat is Kula tactical’s Z for Russia ball cap.
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>>18767792
Unironically, this watch looks totally fine on you. If only you'd get it fixed.
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>>18767793
As I said before, I will likely save up and wait years or even decades to just buy a working modern Tank full price since I admit I am not the richest. I don’t want to throw this one away because it’s still a carrier piece and should be valued for the history at least if anything. Buying a full price working Tank right now isnt a priority and I actually treasure this one for its minor yet important place in Cartier’s history.
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>>18767792
This guy fucks for real.
No wonder some incel chud started harassing you in this thread. Success breeds jealosy.
Keep rockin.
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>>18767792
skinnyfat zigger
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>>18767800
>skinnyfat

I am 180 roughly after ballooning to 200 about three years ago because of hypothyroidism. My goal though is to get back to 160 which I was from 2017 to 2020 roughly-ish.

>zigger

Meaningless NAFO buzzword.
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>>18767796
Thx friend.
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>>18767802
so you were even fatter walking around wearing a broken womens luxury watch and also being poor?
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>>18767792
Once again, that (nonworking) watch does not go with anything you're wearing.
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>>18767807
This is a nonsensical post because a Cartier watch goes with literally anything. Kanye west pairs his with an oversized t shirt and puffer jackets.
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>>18767765
conumerism is not a hobby
>"what are your hobbies, anon?"
>oh I purchase items and then keep them stored in a box
>uhm... do you develop any kind of skill, or... is it a medium of self expression...? do you get better at it at some point?
>sure! I get better at it when I have more disposable money, like when I get a raise or when gas prices go down
you're just hoarding
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>>18767654
>slow
>rare
Those have nothing to do with each other. You can quickly cook a steak to well done, and slowly cook one rare.
You need to quickly cook ribeyes to medium rare/med by using a higher temperature or else they're grey and sad like yours was
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>>18767809
comparing your broken vintage tank to kanye wests cartier crash is like comparing a boxster with a blown engine to a gt3-rs
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>>18767807
Cartier even looks good paired with a baby blue ushanka which I doubt many watches could pull off.
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>>18767794
>imagine cocksucking a brand
lol
>not even their target audience
lmao, even

>>18767809
>GuYs I'm LiKe KaNyE wEsT
>TwiNniNg AnD WiNniNg
mental illness
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>>18767792
hands down the worst post ever itt.
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>>18767814
>>>not even their target audience

The tank technically was created for General Pershing so its target audience would be five star US generals only by your reasoning…

Also pic related is the first Tank btw. I’d wear the hell out of this thing. It’s gorgeous.
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>>18767813
1. this doesnt look good
2. it's another crash which is not the watch you have
3. you still are a skinnyfat zigger wearing a hat in support of a war you're not fighting, an oxford thats way too bgi, pants that are too small, and a green adidas polyester t to show your hypothyroid gut.
and again your watch doesnt work
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>>18767817
you don't know what target audience is if you think it would mean that it's "five star generals only"
Nike's target audience must be Cristiano Ronaldo then, you moron
but sure, the target audience for that watch is clearly people who can't afford to have them properly running
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>>18767818
> in support of a war you're not fighting

My country had the spirit of Anchorage meeting last year so I am helping the innocent civilians of Donetsk and Lukhansk from being slaughtered by goosestepping Azov morons just by voting for pro-Russia candidates like Trump.

Pic related- from Paul Cockshott’s blog

https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/2022/02/28/guest-post-on-the-ukraine-crisis/

>>18767815
You can stop samefagging and even post your watch + outfit if you have the guts to (you won’t).
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>>18767809
>literally

So you don't know what that word means either.
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JFC, I hate it when this guy gets something up his ass and proceeds to try and convince everyone that tiny tanks are still held in whatever esteem they were 100 years ago and how they work with everything because some rappers wore the same brand. The lack of self-awareness is just pathetic.
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>>18767456
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>>18767827
And I hate you even more than the jackass you think you're making fun of. Retire that image forever.
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>>18767820
ziggerfaggot.
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>>18767823
The Tank watch looks good with most anything. Why don’t any of you answer this guy’s question >>18767752 and post your outfits with the watches you wear? I was the only one who answered the guys question and probably one of the few here who at least owns his watch and isnt reposting years old images of a rented watch or clip art of something he will never own.

>b.. but you look skinny fat and the watch is too small!

Link related: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5XtAHOepH94&pp=ygUeaSd2ZSBzZWVuIHdoYXQgbWFrZXMgeW91IGNoZWVy&ra=m

Post an outfit + watch that you yourself own and wear.
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>>18767824
I posted an outfit only because the poster before me asked for people to post their watch plus outfit. If you have so much self confidence in how cool your watch and outfits are then why don’t you post them?
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>>18767835
Are you a torture victim?
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>>18767836
Piss off if you’re not going to post your watch and outfit instead of using irony and jokes to distract from my points.
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>>18767837
I'm not that guy. I just want you to know this is how it starts. Don't let the get to you and don't post your penis here. The feds are in league with the nazis and they will stalk you no matter where you go.
you're not alone in this. Stay safe.
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>>18767837
Just STOP posting for the day. You're done. We're sick of you.
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>>18767841
I will stop when you post a watch and outfit like that first poster asked.
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Never post watches you personally own in here.
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>>18767842
It's going to be a long thread then. No one is doing that.
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>>18767844
Clearly your watch and clothes must be too impressive for mere mortals like me to see and you don’t want us to be over awed with how awesome they look.
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>>18767792
You're 41 years old and that's how you dress?
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>>18767845
I have a lot of watches and I've posted all of them. I don't care about "fashion" in clothes and I'm not taking a picture of the t-shirt and shorts I'm wearing today.
I don't know where you got the idea that because some anon requested something we all have to do it. You're like the only guy in the prank to have his dick out when they turn the lights on.
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>>18767846
Contrary to what you think that guy was a genuine fan and not me samefagging. I never samefag or talk about myself in 3rd person because that’s mega lame.
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My Tissot PRX (powermatic 80 35mm black grenade dial) absolutely mogs everything you guys have been posting today
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>>18767859
What's your hairline look like under that hat? :^)
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>>18767862
The other guy wore a hat, it's fair play
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>>18767863
Sorry. Not too late for min/fin or a trip to Turkey, is it?
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>>18767868
Continue projecting. My PRX works btw.
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>>18767859
>>18767872
I think your hat, Tissot and shirt all look cool. Dont assume I am that troll trying to insult you.
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Some pretty outrageous samefagging ITT.
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>>18767728
watch him try to explain not liking the movie Black Panther is not racist to a black man who immediately calls him racist
that’s the look of a man saying the n word in his mind
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>>18767807
he’s wearing it correctly at least this time
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>>18767813
he’s a crypto, never noticed before
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>>18767859
your eyes are too close together you’re a different species soon we will be able to identify all over you
no more cannibalism tsk tsk tsk
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what watch would you take to the month-end pig out/cheat meal at Five Guys?

>guess what I took with me
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>>18767893
Biden?
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>>18767863
PRX PM80 Master Race Reporting In
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>>18767867
great looking watch, anon.
that yellow dial pairs so well with that strap. excellent combination
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>>18767894
damn I guess it really does standout. brother nailed it on the first try. COME ON MAN!!!!

Biden R015 exemplar chillin at the book store
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>>18767792
Finally, someone in this thread who isn't a Nazi
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mad3
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Let me guess, you need more?
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park time
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>>18767905
Yeah, I need more numbers. I need all of them.
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>>18767908
One day you will. Believe in yourself!
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>>18767893
Holy shit, nazi dogwhistle alert
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>>18767792
How does it feel to support a genocidal dictator?
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>>18767921
I wouldn’t know. I don’t support the Banderites.
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I like this dial. Looks like my eyes. I could drink from it, absorbing this mini lake on my wrist every time I look at it.
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Rate my new watch guys and gals

I'm more of a field watch guy, this is now the dressiest watch I own.
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Kofe time.
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>>18767922
Don't use A.I. for anything.
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>>18767942
Fuck yourself.
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>>18767966
cool it with the anti-caffeine remarks
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>>18767942
I have a $150 Citizen where the second hand misses the marks and it bugs me quite a lot.

I wouldn't stand for it in a watch as expensive as that one there. Guess the lease is up eventually though. Trade it in for something more befitting of the supposed value.
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>>18767942
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>>18767713
>the prices of everything is what scares me the most, but I can deal with not having access to practice and work on multiple perpetual calendars or the tools required to do so, just as I can't afford to own many watches as well
>I'll work on what I have access to
See, that's the typical misconception : more tools do not mean you can work on more complex calibers. It means you can do more on even a simple caliber.
You don't even need anything specific to work on a complex calendar watch, you just need to do the right adjustments and synchronizations of parts when readjusting. There are no particular tools needed.
On the other hand, if your basic caliber has something broken in the shockproofing or the balance wheel, then you'll need special tools that cost the price of a second hand car.
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>>18767893
>>18767894
>>18767900
>samefag trying to bait that one guy who was angry because the watch is called Biden
Average day in /wt/.
Just wait until the jew baiter wakes up as well.
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>>18768008
The funny thing is that we are nowhere near rock bottom.
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>>18768001
so you're saying it's more expensive to delve into certain areas of watch repair, which is what I stated before
and that's ok, I'll probably not fix shockproof mechanisms and balance wheels then
or maybe I will, and I'll dump money into this, just not now
but that shouldn't prevent me from trying out a new hobby and learning how stuff works
you were very supportive at first, why try and dissuade me from trying to learn a craft as a hobby?
>nooo you either change your profession or you can't be part of our watch repair club!!
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>>18768009
That guy actually bought the $10 watch just to shitpost about it.
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>>18768009
RISE AND SHINE
Another day to hit rock bottom
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I changed straps on 2 Casios yesterday, and both received some damage because the lugs are made out of plastic LOL. I didn't do anything wrong or weird.
One of these Casios is a "steel" Casioak g shock, but a significant part of it is plastic for some reason anyway.
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>>18768018
Dude gtfo. If you have the kind of money to get tools and education and practice watches for this, you don't need to do it in the first place, just buy a race car or some shit.
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Truth be told, are luxury watches actually just rog trinkets?
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>>18768018
You're on 4chins, ignore negativity and go for it, man.
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>>18767942
Based
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>>18768020
At least two of us did
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>>18767671
Yeah but check this lume
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I put the bracelet back on the San Martin Submariner Hulk.
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What would be the best kind of watches to have for decades, maybe even a lifetime, but with minimal part replacements?
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>>18768018
I'm not trying to dissuade you, just letting you know in this case because again, it's a very common misconception that more gear means you can do more calibers.
As for would prevent you from trying further stuff, it's simple :
>gear, as previously stated
It's the problem of affordability but also access. A lot of tools are only available through distributors who will not work with you unless you can show a business registration because gatekeeping is the name of the game in watchmaking
>knowledge
Practical watchmaking info is scarce. You can go find some "trusted and reliable" sources (read : outdated in quite some ways) with reference books like George Daniels' books or The Watchmaker at the Bench [l'horloger à l'établi/der Uhrmacher am Drehbank] but it's not going to help you deal with more contemporary tools and machines and it is often focused on building new pieces rather than service and repair. It does not help that the generation of watchmakers that's now reaching retirement age was in the boomer mentality of
>if I tell anyone my priceless secrets and know-how, they'll run me out of business !
The next generation is missing because it seemed after the quartz crisis AND the electronics and cell phone boom that the profession was going extinct. We're seeing more watchmakers being trained now that there is demand but the two missing generations have really done some harm to the continuity of knowledge. Add to that the fact that brands do all they can to choke third-party repair and further gatekeep training. and you have a pretty bad situation overall.
It's not too hard to pick up the basics. If you want to go in-depth, decide you want to change your balance wheel axle, manage to get the right parts and the tools, you'll find that there's very few people who still know how to do it. One is on youtube and will paywalls contact behind a patreon, one refuses to retire and will not help you anyway, one is in rural Belgium and only answers paper mail.
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JGAWPF.
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>>18768018
>I'll probably not fix shockproof mechanisms and balance wheels then
That's the thing, you might not have a choice. If that's the part that's broken then that's the part that's broken and there are no workarounds unless you can get the right spares. That's what makes watch repair very frustrating and - in my profesionnal opinion - a terrible hobby : if you pick up a new repair, there's always a chance you'll be stopped quickly, with no recourse whatsoever and there goes your entire project.
When doing it for clients, you can always contact someone with better equipment and means and hope the client will accept a higher quote.
When doing it for yourself, you're just running into a brick wall without much you can do about it.
That's just something to be aware of.
Just saying all that to dispell some of the myths that exist around watchmaking. It's not a magical craft, or anything super technical, really.
But it is very frustrating to practice because you're very often faced with cases where you can't do anything unless the right jumper spring shows up on ebay (all your suppliers have stopped stocking parts for that older caliber) or make shitty workarounds because you need a single-purpose tool that costs two months worth of your wage before taxes, and that you won't need again for another four years.
So go ahead. But be weary that this is what you are getting into. This quickly becomes the reality of watch repair.
I'd honestly say, if money isn't much of a concern, look into polishing. In terms of results, it can be far more rewarding. But the barrier cost to entry is stupid unless you DIY a really shit setup.
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What watch are you guys going to buy when you get your $5000 republican election victory checks?
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Help me pick a new beater, lads
>Timex Easy Reader (this exact model)
Or
>Swatch Once Again
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>>18768084
>What would be the best kind of watches to have for decades, maybe even a lifetime, but with minimal part replacements?
I have had a quartz Omega Seamaster for over twenty years. The only parts that have been replaced (apart from the batteries) were the caseback and crown gaskets. (I don't know if they needed to be replaced, but it was part of service. I do dive with the watch and I would rather be proactive about replacing gaskets versus having one fail and me finding out about it afterwards)
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>>18767965
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>>18768111
>checked
They both look great. The Timex is dressier. I have the EasyReader with the brass case and beige dial (pic related) and I enjoy it a lot. I also like that it is pretty loud so that’s something to keep in mind if it would bother you. It doesn’t have any lume but the indiglo function makes up for it, although obv you have to physically press the crown to get it to light up.
Personally for the Swatch I would pick the Twice Again because the magnification on the once Again’s day date is just clunky and detracts from the clean look in my opinion.

Go for the Timex if you want your watch to stand out due to the shiny chrome/steel or if you think you would need the indiglo light-up function (which looks incredible). Go for the once/twice again if you want your watch to blend in and look understated or if you want something with lume.
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>>18768046
the “pepsi” color combo on bezels is absolutely vile
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>>18768092
just get a watch por favor?
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>>18767998
Citizen >
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New Day, new N A V I T I M E R
This is a 1966 : ]
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>>18767998
165 dollerays
: 3
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>>18768161
where does it ship from?
avoid pakistani trash in the vintage jap watch markets. and shpping from anywhere in the gulf also bad
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>>18768164
New Mexico, USA
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>>18768152
Noted. I already have that Timex too. I just wanted something a bit smaller and classic looking.
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>>18768161
Ebay prices never cease to amaze me. There can't possibly be anyone so fucking stupid they'd pay that.
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>>18768178
I hate to defend the hobo but

>>>”or best offer”

That means they know 165 is unrealistic and they will settle for whatever you offer. A common bargaining tactic.
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New moon today :)
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>>18768028
>you don't need to do it in the first place
yeah that's kind of the whole point of the "I wanna do it as a hobby, not a job" thing, retard
doing something because you want to and don't have to is the definition of what a hobby is
are you slow?
also
>If you have the kind of money
bruh I'm a teacher and a PhD student, I'm not exactly a millionaire
if you can't save up and pay $400 for a tool in the span of a year you're either
>financially irresponsible
>not prioritizing the hobby to the point of spending that much (which is fine)
>literally living on foodstamps
and yeah some tools and equipments will be reasonable for me to buy them and within my reach, and some of them will not
and then I'll just not buy them
>the kind of money to get tools and education and practice watches for this
dude I spent like $200 on very decent tools that I'll use for a long time, including the movement, which was like $25
the basic course from the Watch Repair Tutorials' dude is literally FREE
also books are cheap and there are pdfs for free (not sure if you know but watchmaking wasn't invented yesterday, there's extensive literature on it)
>just buy a race car or some shit
yeah it's the same kind of money, maybe I'll get one next month you cumguzzling halfwit
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>>18768199
Sorry u're poor
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kofe vibes
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>>18768153
Doing the meme, I see
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>>18768205
NAZI WIBES
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>>18768046
That looks badass. Don’t listen to the other anon he’s just bitter. There is nothing wrong with the Pepsi bezel on your Seiko. It looks great.

>>18768049
Lookin clean boss. That looks so much better with the bracelet it actually makes me consider getting a San Martin.
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>>18768201
sorry your reading comprehension skills are so bad ):
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Finally filled up my $12 watch box with my favorite "premium luxury" offerings (minus the SU of course), next step is getting a real box like from Wolf and look into a true high horology pieces moving forward, I was thinking about starting with Minerva.
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>>18768219
One flaw on this particular San Martin I've noticed is that the numbers and stuff on the bezel insert are fading. They seem to be painted with some kind of white, and it's going away. The watch is not even a year old, and I also wear other watches a lot. So defnitely that one thing is bad about it.

Luckily changing the bezel insert is not a big deal. I will ask San Martin did they fix this issue so I can maybe get that part straight from them, if not I will find a better bezel insert somewhere else.
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>>18768049
San Martin make fine watches.
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>>18768049
what did you have on it before the bracelet? how is the watch in terms of durability and thickness? the submariner is kind of a cool watch, but not one that I'd care to pay rolex prices for
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>>18768164
Don't engage the hobo. He's not in the market to even buy himself a burrito let alone a watch.
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>>18768230
>true high horology pieces moving forward

Cringe.
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>>18768251
Yes, clearly an 'edit'.

Stop posting that watch, incel.
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>>18768099
A secondhand JLC Polaris is what I am looking for with that money.
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Krassny, Krassny shelk -

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rx_mRewZSwU&list=RDrx_mRewZSwU&start_radio=1&pp=ygUX0JrRgNCw0YHQvdGL0Lkg0YjQtdC70LqgBwE%3D&ra=m
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>>18768230
If a nice Pythagore comes up for sale buy it immediately.
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>>18768248
I really don't have any good pics of what I wore it on before this. Here is this low quality zoomed in pic where I was wearing it on the green leather bund strap. Before that I've tried nato straps and it looked way worse.

Forgot the exact thickness, but it's thin for a watch like this, it is because it has the PT5000 movement.
Durability seems fine, other than the bezel insert issue that I mentioned before.
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>>18768253
Yes, I had to resize it, no I won't, you're the incel here.
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>>18768265
yeah I can already see there that it's relatively thin. nice. that leather strap looks fine, too, even if it's unusual
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>>18768161
Just bought an over 60 year old Zenith with near mint dial and 40-T movement that cost me about $200. You can also find decent but unserviced vintage Omegas around a similar price. Paying that for a vintage Citizen is beyond retarded.
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>>18768272
Then how come I have a girlfriend and you're still a virgin?
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>>18768088
>a lot of tools are only available through distributors who will not work with you
like which tools?
>Practical watchmaking info is scarce
>One is on youtube and will paywalls contact behind a patreon, one refuses to retire and will not help you anyway, one is in rural Belgium and only answers paper mail
names please, and which is which lol
the WRT guy seems solid
>It's not too hard to pick up the basics
>If you want to go in-depth [...]
I'm having a hard time understanding what exactly would you consider out of bounds for a hobbyist
I get it, I won't be able to purchase a specific part for a Rolex etc. because they won't even look at my face, but like... I'm thinking of repairing old Seikos and shit, and if a piece is broken and the machinery for fixing it is $2k I can buy a cheap donor watch for nothing
that's the kind of repair I'm aiming for
and I know when to let go
Also I have a question
being a professional watch repairman, would you order a couple parts for a client who's into it as a hobby?
given that it's an actual client and not a random dude who just came through the door
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If you cant afford a really nice swiss luxury watch just wait until your parents die. Then you can buy the rolex or w/e with your some of your inheritance money.
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>>18768317
I assume you will inherit your father's watch, right? I mean, I'm not waiting for my father to die or anything, but I will get his Patek when he passes.

Of course, then my son will get mine and my father's, and who needs that many gold dress watches? I should probably swap mine for something sportier.
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>>18768317
Lol? Why didn't you get parents' watches from the milestone birthdays? yet? Where are you going lol? Inheritance is for the houses and rental properties and businesses.
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>>18767441
>a Seiko that's no longer a diver.
Just get a Citizen at this point.
>>18767863
>>18767859
>>18767907
>*brokes* when manually wind it and can't be reparable
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>>18768320
My parents didnt have any watches. I just used the money we got from selling their estate.. theyre weren't insanely wealthy or anything.. were pretty normal. When I say swiss luxury watch im talking about greting a stainless rolex or omega..
Its nothing too extravagant. Its still nice though. Its not all boomers who own pateks and businesses you know.
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>>18768321
How is it no longer a diver? It’s ISO certified (not that I go diving anyways)
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ID?
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>>18768338
Maybe a Heuer Autavia?
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>>18768231
do you have any photos of it?
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>>18768318
>>18768320
>in today's episode of larping faggots in denial
funny how these peasants never post a photo
I'll post a pic with my Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle as soon as I get home to show how it's done
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>>18768317
Who cares so much about luxury watches that they'd spend a serious chunk of inheritance on one?

That's idiotic.
You have no such watches and you never will.

>>18768318
Fucking bullshitter.
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>>18768350
And none will be impressed.
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Do you like it?
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No.
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Do you like lume? What's your favorite watch in terms of its lume?

I love watches with blue lume, it looks so exotic compared to green.

They should put money into discovering new lume colors. If they invented pink I'd pay through the nose for one.
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I'm going to buy one of those 80 year old rolexes that don't run for $500 and go around bragging about my sick rolly
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>>18768402

Durrrr durrr durrrr
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>>18768402
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>>18768321
>*brokes* when manually wind it and can't be reparable
esl retard post
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>>18768316
>like which tools
Most machinery, stuff like jewel drivers, anything made by Horia, attachments for lathes or polishing machines, a lot of Bergeon tools once you get past screwdrivers and tweezers, most HoroTec, parts in general, crystals and gaskets can be a pain as well. You CAN find a lot of it on ebay but it's usually going to be old stock at inflated prices for the condition.
>names please
I don't have names, it's just so you get the idea of how the previous generation of watchmaker tends to operate. If you want an example of a youtube guy, Kalle from Chronoglide would be one. He is good overall but then he sees a Powermatic movement and doesn't even realize it has inertia regulation via screws. The youtube guys, once they start to get a following, do tend to start thinking like hot shots and then do this kind of cock-up which nobody will correct them on because watchmakers don't watch other watchmakers.
>what's out of bound for a hobbyist
It's a bit difficult to explain because it's not clear examples.
Let's take an example with precision and accuracy regulation.
Anyone with an opening key, a timegrapher and a pair of tweezers can try and regulate a watch. And they'll do an incomplete job because they don't know that it's not just "slide the regulator pin until it says +0 seconds". That instead, you need to take into account :
>where in the unwinding cycle is your mainspring
>state of the transmission geartrain lubrication
>were the complications dismantled
>weight balance on the balance wheel
>tightness of the regulator pin
>ellipse alignment for beat error
>how many positions are tested
>hairspring centering
>test runtime
>parasitic noises from within the caliber
And some of these might require unavailable tools to be adjusted, unfortunately.
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(cont.)
>I won't be able to buy a specific Rolex part
Funnily enough, the demand is so high that you have a huge ecosystem of generic spare makers selling from ebay, Rolex is ironically more accessible than some ETA that way :v)
>being a professional watch repairman, would you order a couple parts for a client who's into it as a hobby?
Absolutely not. Never. It's not even a question.
1 because I as the seller have to give a warranty on the part and its function. So if you use the part incorrectly, it is technically up to me to deal with the fallout.
(cont.)
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>>18768324
Where is the house?? Your grandparents lived in a cave???
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(cont.)
2 because hobbyists and other guys who think they know what they are talking about are absolute cancer as clients. They're the type that think they know your job as well as you if not better, understand enough to have an incomplete and therefore inaccurate idea of technical details. I've had to deal with some and one of them is now blacklisted from our store after trying to pull a
>erm, this watch you serviced is in worse condition than when I left it because I measured it at +8 seconds per day and that's not chronometric
Ok, fucker, for starter your watch is not a chronometer so I have no obligation to regulate it to chronometric standards. But that's just nomenclature, it's often possible to up the accuracy and precision of a modern caliber. Now more importantly, how wound or unwound was the hairspring ? How long did you measure it for to get a positional average of +8 ? Oh sorry what ? You don't know that it matters ? Well there's your answer then, because on a five or six position with 20 seconds of set time in each position, you get to +3 seconds average on a full wind which will then land you close to +1/0 once the watch has a few hours of unwind. It's almost as if things aren't as simple as "I saw +8 seconds on my timegrapher app, my watch is ruined" .
Dude tried to pull the same shit on our jeweler as well. Got a diamond tester pen off amazon, checked everything he could and said a ring we fixed for his wife was tampered with because "these stones do not register as diamonds, you have replaced them and we want the originals or else" , when really he was aiming poorly on some very small stones and was "reading" the setting claws and not the stones.
I'm all for working with and for enthusiasts, collectors and such. But I have not had any good interaction with this type of hobbyist in the context of my job.
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It's not that they're wrong in what they say, it's HOW they are wrong.
>can you polish my mineral crystal ? I saw that PolyWatch has some kits for that now
No. That shit barely works.
>can you put a silicon hairspring in this watch to make it more magnetproof ?
No.
>can you put a screw-down tube in that case so my watch is more water resistant ?
NO.
I AM GOING TO PUT UP A "NO REDDITORS ALLOWED" SIGN AT MY DOOR
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Dude no one is reading all that… or is that the joke?
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>>18768450
Does this mean that finding someone to service your fake Rolex is easy and affordable?
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>>18768459
Watchmakers won't want to deal with it if they know it's fake. Because :
>depending on the place, they may have a legal duty to declare or even destroy something identified as a counterfeit
>if they work on a fake whil being able to identify it as one, and it then surfaces that it is a fake, they're going to have some liability depending on the situation
>if it coms out that you work on fakes, it can do really bad things to your reputation
>you don't want to deal with the legacy fake dealers and owners (blacks, serbs and arabs)
>you don't want to deal with the new fake dealers and owners (redditors with "superclones" )
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>>18768460
>redditors with "superclones"
I can already see them trying to go "what fake are you talking about? I had a l legitimate Rolex, and now you swapped it with a fake and want to keep both my real watch and your fake to scam more customers. Well not with me, buddy." Like the diamonds guy. kek
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rate my 3 grails

>Glashütte Orginal new Senator Chronograph
>Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Control Chronometre Perpetual Calendar
>Jaeger-LeCoultre Duomètre Quantième Lunaire

Also which one, /wt/?
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>>18768495
5/5
5/5
5/5

Just get a WeekDater.
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>>18768495
too thick/10
too dark/10
still dark, I like this one the most/10
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>>18768518
>too dark/10
I'd hate to think how you rate black dial watches kek
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If an automatic watch has fallen on the floor and doesn't work anymore, how difficult/costly is it usually to fix this?

If you know a guy who has a watch like this, is it worth it to offer him a bit of money to sell it to you?
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>>18768448
>>18768450
>>18768452
>>18768453
thanks for yet another lengthy response
>unironically
it seems that, in the end, I'll have to wait and see how my path develops
what would you recommend?
I'll obviously start by buying and disassembling functioning movements etc. and once I have proper understanding I can move on to trying to fix simple watches with readily available parts or donor watches (like old Seiko 5s etc.)
also sources, things to look out for etc.
thanks a lot again, man
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>>18768530
I have more black dial watches than other, dials and they usually have a clean contrast between the case and dial, as well as the hands and dial. maybe the picture is bad, but it seems like an overall dark watch with bad readability
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>>18768541
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>>18768538
I really don't have any ressources I can direct you towards, that's the heart of the problem.
What I have, I got from my school training or from further training at different brands. And none of it was in english.
You can try and follow along with some guys on youtube but I'm a bit skeptical of a lot of them (some are straight-up faking their restorations for views). Watchguy's website has a lot of teardown and service photos but he falls in the pitfall of saying what he did without showing how or without further explanations. At a few points, I've needed some info or visuals on how to deal with a given part of a vintage caliber, found his service records and got hit with
>"next you have to put the plate that holds this whole assembly full of springs into place"
>cool, let's hope there's photoso of how because I haven't been able to do it
>"so I did it and then I oiled the jumper of the date wheel" with five photos of date wheel teeth even though that's a really eay part that's the same on every caliber
>"then of course I changed the balance wheel axle, which was no small task but with the right tools, it was a breeze !"
>proceeds not to show any of it, or to just have a photo of the spare axle in its packaging
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