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Choco Roughout Blacksmiths Edition

What do I need to care for my boots?
>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)
>Horsehair brush ($10-15)
>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)
>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bick4/renovateur
>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP
>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest them

How do I deal with x stain?
>mud: allow it to dry then brush off
>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible
>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper
>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush

>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?
No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.
>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're good
no. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.
>Are Thursdays any good?
no.

Manufacturer Red Flags
>Luxury
>Bespoke
>Sustainable
>Vegan
>Unknown leather source
>Made in Chyna/Mexico/Indonesia

Boot Red Flags
>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)
>C*rk/C*lastic
>Zippers
>Non gusseted tongues
>Excessive/unnecessary seams
>Combination/mixed material heels

Boot Brands NO
>Turdsdays
>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters
>any Whatsapp makers in the far east
>Blkbrd

PREV>>18760418
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Post cowboy boots that don't suck
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>>18770423
does the blacksmith have the same canvas lining as the iron ranger? i could swear it was leather
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>>18770446
>does the blacksmith have the same canvas lining as the iron ranger?
Yes
> i could swear it was leather
Old beckmans had a leather lining.
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Wassup boot nerds
I’m considering getting my old Red Wing blacksmiths resoled but kind of want a softer sole. Can they do that? I mean can Red Wing put a softer but same type of sole on them? Thanks bros
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>>18770476
they can put the same wedge sole they put on the 875s onto your blacksmiths
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>>18770446
blacksmiths have always had the fabric lining as the IRs only the beckmans got the leather lining
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>>18770476
A good cobbler can pretty much do anything you want
Good luck finding a good cobbler though
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Kind of tangentially boot related, but are there any sneakers without mushy soles? I much prefer the hard sole of boots but sometimes a man's gotta wear sneakers.
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>>18770494
feit if you're looking for leather soled sneakers
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>>18770423
Oh, man! Are those heckin' Red Wings? High quality boots by any measure!
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>>18770523
When do you stop crying?
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why do you /fa/ggots hate Doc Martens?
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>>18770437
All cowboy boots vary between hot garbage not even worth the 120$ listed price and decent. You gotta realize they started putting rubber on the soles of those boots because leather bottoms are only good for dancing/office work at this point. Round toe is for actual ranchers who ride horses and square toe is for actual blue collar workers. The rest is for posers.
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>>18770437
Ariat for round toe, Double H for square toe. lean in on the higher price being the better option. If you want actual leather bottoms that hold up well for dancing then go up market 350-500$ range. Elephant leather & Stingray leather have to be fitted properly, they under no circumstances break in. Alligator leather is really weak so only reserved for dancing. Ostridge leather is higher end for work and hold up for a long time but most people can't afford to buy something like that unless they are committed to resoling it more than 3 times of which most boots shit themselves after the third resole.
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>>18770557
They're poorly made and overpriced
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>>18770557
Expensive boots for dykes. I really don't like the look of the soles. Besides hiking boots are more effay than them.
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>>18770557
no shank
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>>18770423
imagine wearing that lame ass retro shit. it aint 1930 fag
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>>18770604
They have composite toes now but do they have composite shanks?
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>>18770557
We like women.
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>>18770604
Technically they have a wooden shank like an ice cream stick. It breaks easily and doesn't really do anything.
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>>18770611
Would be worse than cork due to molding. But then again if your entire life is wearing boots you are likely to wear 2 pairs rotating every other day due to sweat mitigation and compression mitigation. That is the OG way militaries used to keep boots lasting longer than 6 months when insoles was cardboard, crappy leather and the soles were leather.
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Red Wing is so fucking cringe. The look itself of the boots seems like they were created specifically for reddit guys.
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>>18770616
Honestly way overpriced for a brand of boots. For their prices you can get better brands/styles/designs. Only thing keeping them reddit afloat is the fact that they have cobblers on payroll. Without that they would have zero value towards the industry.
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>>18770618
They’re also notoriously the most uncomfortable and hard to break boots out there, but not because the leather is super chunky and the cork filling very thick such as in White’s or Tricker’s, but because they just fucking suck. They feel obnoxious and uncomfortable even months after the break-in period is finished.
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>>18770619
Sounds like they need a traditional break in cycle where you soak them in water, grease up your ankles and walk through the neighborhood. Really though most full leather boots need like 2 weeks max to break in even the vintage styled WW1/WW2 boots barely took that long to break in properly.
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I don't know what you guys are talking about. My Iron Rangers took two weeks to break-in and my mocs less than a week.
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>>18770619
That’s because they don’t have a midsole.
>muh archive models
Absolute joke of a brand.

>>18770629
Retard
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>>18770619
>but not because the leather is super chunky
i've got the pecos work boots and the leather is thicker than any other work boot i've owned
justified break-in imho
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>>18770634
Damn, literally who wears that shit unless you live in Texas?
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>>18770637
people with jobs. hard for you to relate, i understand.
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>>18770639
>Nigga doesn't have a real job
You aren't wearing red wings if you got a real job anon. It's a fashion brand first work brand second.
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>>18770640
wouldn't use them for wildland firefighting, sure, but they're generally respected as workboots.
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>>18770639
>>18770643
>only the people of Texas out of the whole world have real jobs
You’re a fucking clown.
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>>18770644
I'm not in Texas, dummy.
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>>18770640
im an electrician and i take the mocs/ir on site ez cuz i dont wanna die electrocuted. if i need toe guards i just snap them on ez. both are comfy af after the break in period, had them for 5 years best money spent
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>>18770643
Not when most redwings boots are north of 220$. that's like saying jeans are still the staple for work pants when most people have moved onto ripstop cargo pants for utility/price reasons. But like i said fashion brand first work second. You recoup the value of them through resoling but you could also do that with any goodyear welted boot on the market atleast 3 times before the leather shits itself mind you.
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>>18770648
Same anon. Never wore mocs what is the kino with them? and what is the downsides?
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>>18770649
>Not when most redwings boots are north of 220$
that's why they're respected, they're nicer and comfier than the usual boot.
most dudes just get the cheapest walmart garbage they can find and end up replacing them every year.
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>>18770652
My experience is that most soles on boots don't last 1500 miles period(mostly vibram last this long). When do you resole them? I am saying that because if they got special sole sauce i need to understand a rough number of miles when that occurs.
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>Looking to buy Merrel tactical boots for 100 dollarydoos.
>Has a zipper
Fuck you nigger.
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>>18770651
downs:the break in period. those were my first boots so they kicked my ass. also it was hard to for me to figure out the right size.

ups: definitely they last a shit ton and they do take a beating. i take car4e of them tho but my mocs need a resoling thats for sure. i think these are the only pairs i'll buy i dont wanna go own this rabbit hole desu
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>>18770652
>end up replacing them every year.
So most boots if you don't replace the sole? Dam walmart boots are alot better than they used to be.
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>>18770657
If you like a brand of shoe/boot/style then you might end up in a rabbit hole eventually with 12 pairs of boots. If boots is the entire rabbit hole then you will end up with 30.
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>>18770653
three years of use on the pecos and they could stand to get a resole in the next year or so.

>>18770658
my old pair of GYW lasted me six years before they needed a resole albeit most of that was lighter duty work, my current pair is going on a year now and the soles are fine.
both GYW boots have thinner leather than the Redwings, which is what we were originally talking about.
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>>18770660
I have worn plenty of cheap boots if you actually take the time to condition it(it maintains the same color) or grease it( often darkens it) then the leather is rarely going to give out on you aside from actual concrete work, in which case you rubberize the toe or buy pre-rubberized toes.

What drew you to the Pecos instead of any other cowboy boot style?
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>>18770661
I wanted to try a pull-on boot and I wanted to try Redwings specifically, two birds stoned at once.
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>>18770663
Makes the most sense for any purchase. Be sure to double check on how to retain the color i used boot grease on 2 pairs of my pull ons and darkened them. Now imagine if i didn't want to get darkened whew.
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>>18770561
Cowboy boots are traditionally made with leather soles because they're predominantly riding on a horse, not walking. And leather soles are slick and don't get stuck in a stirrup compared to grippy rubber which can literally save your life
So it's part tradition and part functional.
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So Nicks doesn’t use cork filling uh? Also no steel shank. Remind me why we would pay six hundred bucks for that.
>b-but maid by hando! thick leder!
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>>18770680
Company contracts likely. Loggers tend to wear logging boots. Even so i doubt they would fork it up for them at those prices when they can just give them the same amount for another brand to buy 2 of them. Carolina loggers are good enough imo.
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>>18770682
>Carolina loggers are good enough imo.
What's your take on the brand? Worth it?
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>>18770687
I haven't tried any other brand in the logging style. Great in the snow and rain if you apply boot wax it becomes somewhat water proof but loses its breathability which is a decent trade off if you are hiking through the woods on short treks in the snow ie 5-10 miles, if you don't apply it then the breathability is pretty good which is why i don't apply it. I have sweaty feet so it's the only downside to loggers due to hits more ridged construction. To compare it to another boot they make that made me go for a logger i would say the corcoran marauder due to its high heel. This higher heel than the marauder gives you a much more stable walking posture when moving through rocks, uneven terrain or bush. I find the soles are pretty good for wet conditions and snow its good for me but for others they might want to consider wool socks if you are deep in the snow. Comfort wise its great 9/10 but you gotta break them in for about a solid week to depress the leather.

Spruce: 8" Waterproof Logger (Steel Toe)
https://www.carolinashoe.com/en/spruce-8-inch-steel-toe-waterproof-logger-16221.html?dwvar_16221_color=Brown
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>>18770687
Forgot to add. Only thing that sucks about carolinashoe's is the insoles. They are thin enough to not be uncomfortable but not robust enough to last longer than a year. It cannot be helped. Go with Ariat insoles so you retain the internal foot height. I have also had zero luck with gel inserts.
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>>18770688
>>18770691
Thanks. Appreciate it.
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Hello fellow Bootites. I'm looking for a good pair of durable, military-style suede or rough-out boots to do some serious hiking/dicking around in. Black or green preferred. I want something that will last a long time, so budget is secondary to quality. If anyone has any recs, they would be appreciated.
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nigga post me a link to roughout service boots nigga, nigga post me a link to tan roughout cowboy boots nigga
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>>18770695
i cant take this jap old timer seriously. hes like 90 and dresses like 30
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Uh, I don't think the leather on my loafers stretching and softening during break in is going to help when it's the stitching that's fucking with my heels
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>>18770744
These are the types of shoes issued to mountaineering troops. This one listed below is non insulated. You might find the black or brown colors but they won't be rough-outs generally since the military is normally buying those.

Leather Personnel Carrier - Whether you're active duty or just plain active for work or play, the LPC offers you Kenetrek's best features the way you asked for them, in military Coyote Brown. Non-insulated model. 4 lbs. Made in Italy. Available in Medium or Wide widths. Men's sizing (whole & half) Medium (5-12, 13, 14) or Wide (8-12, 13)

Key Features:

8" tall, 2.8mm premium rough-out leather uppers in Coyote Brown (color)
Full-length, super supportive, tapered 7mm nylon midsoles
Kenetrek Supportive Footbeds provide foundational arch support and a pronounced heel pocket
High traction deep lugged, K-73™ outsoles with increased toe and heel taper
Non-insulated for comfort in warmer climates
Windtex® waterproof, breathable, flexible membrane
https://kenetrek.com/collections/work-boots/products/lpc-ni
https://kenetrek.com/collections/work-boots
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>>18770874
Thank you for your recommendation. >>18770839
I hope you were personally inconvenienced by my post.
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>>18770935
If you are willing to fork out some cash you can always hit up a manufacturer for custom shoes/boots. But man are you going to be paying for it.
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>>18770423
What company could make the closest equivalent to these vintage boots?
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>>18770984
Sexy old school ww1 style'd boots.
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>>18770984
White's Packer
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>>18770984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9rH0tsT2l4
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Almost boot weather
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>>18771043
So everyday of the year then?
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>>18770695
>My name is Teik and I’m on Anglo-Saxon country here in Perth
Damn holy based
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>>18770557
i don't because i see them for what they are: disposable. i don't baby them or care about the soles wearing out or any of that.
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>>18770644
wow you are really stupid and esl. you can't read for shit
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>>18770654
zippers are perfectly fine on quality boots. good brands make good zipper boots
the issue is cheap shit brands usually use zippers so they're just associated with garbage
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>>18770695
this old asian dude talking about his super rugged boots is so funny to me.
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>>18771400
Zippers on boots make no sense, boots are meant to be rugged and weather resistant, zippers are not
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>>18771401
What’s his accent like to another English speaker?
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>>18771399
You were already covered in shit in the last thread, subhuman. Give it up.
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>>18771400
This. Good zippers never break. I have luggage stuff from the 50s, family shit, where the zippers still work perfectly. You’re just used to the abysmal crap amerilards and asians sell.

What's more – this shocking discovery will make your jaw drop – zippers can be repaired. They can as long as you don’t live in some distopic row-houses-tier shithole where traditional jobs have been wiped out by jews.

>>18771411
That’s a whole different point but I’m sure your mind can’t grasp the difference.
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Tying you boots up takes like ten seconds and if you absolutely must be able to just get your foot in and go chelseas exist, zipper boots are pointless gay subculture shit for homos.
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>>18771472
>so mad he didn’t quote
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>>18771454
ooops, *DYSTOPIAN
>inb4 esl
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You can call me a Tricker’s guy.
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>>18771400
The garbage association makes more sense when you realize that the zippers let in water as easily as wearing flip flops. Them randomly binding or breaking doesn't help its case either. IDK find me good side zippers i can't find them.
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>>18771526
I've literally never seen anyone anywhere have any complaints about RDT's or Addict's side zip boots, hell they seem to be some of their most popular boots.
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>>18771526
Guidi also makes zipped models.
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I just think zippers on boots look ugly and ruin the shilouette with very few exceptions. I don't care about any other argument pro or against them.
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>>18771528
i literally never heard anyone complain that adward green piccadilly unlined loafers in moss suede let in water, probably means that they're good for wading through ankle high water
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>>18770423
why are there like 3 brands in total selling zipperless black 20 eyelet boots? theyre either really expensive and look like crap or affordable and look decent but also have shit quality or brands that make custom boots but thats like 600 bucks minimum.
also everyone online is saying to buy from surplus stores but ive looked at every non sketch surplus site and none of them sell 20 eye boots
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>>18771480
sneed me some but the uk sizing has scared me off
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>>18771480
Nice ones. Got Burford in black zug. Tried that lacing system once but it’s too big brained for me. Makes it a hassle to put on and off. And almost immediately one lace starts becoming longer than the other.

Looks nice though
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>>18771871
You can change the lacing scheme, you know?
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>>18770423
What's wrong with Solovair?
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>>18772068
not substantially better than docs
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Iron ranger are cool looking and all, but whole fuck are they heavy and clunky and shitty walking in, even when they are broken in. I gave up and just wear some random goodyear welted shoe made in portugal.

Any rugged boots thats actually comfortable wearing?
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Bought Clarks with gore tex and lining. Very comfortable, lightweight and warm, then the heels came off on both shoes after a few times wearing it. Fuck Clarks. Never again.


Never buy anything made in asian country again
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>>18772125
No one cares that you're a pussy who can't handle some basic as fuck boots because you're a limp wrist fag
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>>18772068
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>>18772019
Are you illiterate?
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>>18772190
For sure you are.
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>>18772201
So illiterate and obstinate then
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>>18772204
>YOU CANT USE SYNONYMS @&#%@£#¥^
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>>18772206
wtf are you talking about retard. You know you can go back, right? It’s not deleted. Maybe you’ll learn where exactly your mental retardation was triggered. When you’re just learning how to read it’s good to read the same thing over a few times. Helps the learning process!
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>>18772253
>anon says the lacing system (“system”) of Tricker’s Burford is a hassle for him
>ironically tell anon he can change the lacing scheme so that pulling the laces isn’t annoying and no lace ends up being longer than the other

>retard starts offending at random because he’s still mad some guy said Iron Rangers are crap (which, in fact, they are)
You’re lower than shit to me.
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>>18772262
Why won’t you just read it again? You’re showing signs of mental illness.
>something about iron rangers
My God the schizo…
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>>18772285
Haha great way to come out into the open right away. Have a good life, subhuman.
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>>18772130
Damn boy, your feet must be really sore or you wouldnt be so angry
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>>18772416
>He can't wear boots everyday because it hurts his wittle feet
Anon pls.
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i have 3 pairs of boots with zippers and the zippers are busted on all of them. are they even worth fixing? zippers are such a fucking scam it's insane
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poorfag here, brandit or steel?
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>>18772713
Nobody is going to fix zippers on a boot
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Hellos niggas, looking for something similar to picrel that isn't Martens, any recs?
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>>18772792
Fracap.
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This might be a ridiculous question, but how do I measure my feet properly to know what size boot to order?
I know I'm supposed to do it in the evenings since feet swell over the day but I've always had problems getting sizing right even just with sneakers and leather boots seem like they'd be even harder
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>>18772887
We have these in america
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>>18772887
you don't, because there's no universal standard for measuring feet and sizing is all over the place
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>>18772767
Sure if you live in a dystopian shithole. In Italy, Spain, France, Portugal and Great Britain you can find literal boutiques for zipper repairs. Just as you go to the cobbler for repairing soles and to the tailor for mending the rifts.

So sorry you’re american.
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>>18772902
>So sorry you’re american

Stop coping. You wish you were in his place.
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>>18772902
cringe
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>>18772969
>>18772982
I just love so fucking much to be cringe with subhumans
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>>18772988
oof this yuropoor is MAD mad
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>>18772988
Uh Oh melty.
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>>18772992
>is MAD mad
Lmfaooo the dude who spends his entire day here, every day of the week

What are those big boy superhero White's even for???
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>>18772999
What's wrong with Whites or Nicks boots anon? Are you perhaps jealous poor fag? Also zippers are for fags.
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>>18772999
>he keeps going
do you think he's crying while thinking about Americans? doubt it's the first time
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>>18773004
What's wrong with going out wearing your White's? Why are you here 24/7? Don't you feel any shame at the thought you're the guardian of a fucking boot thread on the gay board of 4chink?
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>>18773004
I also don't like zippers on boots and I don't get the appeal, but
>zippers can't be repaired
false
>zippers are only used by low-tier brands
false
Guidi, Rolling Dub Trio, Danner, the list goes on
>zippers are weak and tend to break
false
zippers are weak and tend to break only if they're produced by shit-tier producers such as anything that comes from Asia
leather luggage is subjected to greater stress and wear and tear than shoes, and yet features zippers even when it comes from top-tier manufacturers

Stop being a fucking subhuman retarded piece of shit. Your rules, your little closed world. Truly smells rancid and obtuse.
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Big zipper shills are in the thread, do not reply to YKK marketers.
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Crying about Americans on the American website is extremely stupid. Especially considering Americans have the good cowboy boots and you don't.
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>>18773070
everyone here already knows who he is and what he's doing and ignores him
anyone actually responding to him isn't a regular here
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What hiking boots would you consider stylish? I like OD green hiking boots but that's not really effay.
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>>18773369
Paraboot, they're also functional as a hiking boot but nobody should buy them for performance.
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>Boot thread
>SHIT BOOT SHIT BOOT
>RED FLAG RED FLAG
>Not a single recommendation
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>>18773389
They amerifats somehow think whoever makes a critique is a shill and all who make a critique are one person
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>>18773386
Thanks anon. Some of them look really nice.
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>>18773217
Who is he?
>>18773389
Stop lying pussy. I posted my new boots and I gave 3 recs.
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Anyone actually make jack boots?
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>>18773406
The waxed upper ages very nicely, sizing with Paraboot can be a pain but at least within the EU they offer free returns for any reason.
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>>18773416
>Who is he?
>"please talk about me on an anonymous japanese anime image board please give me attention"
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>>18772894
The couple shoe stores I went to just had a plastic thingy that only measures the distance from your heel to the toes which seems kind of useless

>>18772900
So everyone just orders a ton of boots to try on and sends back the shit that doesn't fit? That seems retarded
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Why would people buy approach shoes over anything else?
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>>18773463
If you are ordering them then yeah, it's just rolling the dice
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>>18773461
Who are you quoting?
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Give me some recommendations here within tree fiddy ($350)
Only boots I have are Grant Stone Brass Boots in Crimson Kudu from 2024ish. They've been comfortable but I don't want to keep beating on them for hikes and light outdoor work that doesn't need steel toe
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should i cop?
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ive been tempted to buy some camel colored suede desert/jungle boot but i havent decided what brand yet
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>>18773835
Garmont is good enough if you are looking for actual function and price of roughly 180$ from their main website. Real question is do want more leather or more nylon?
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>>18773839
>jungle boot
>leather
Oh so you are a larper, got it.
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>>18773840
Jungle boots have leather with them? Are you looking for all nylon construction?
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>>18773840
Yeah retard find me boots without leather.
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>>18773542
Thoughts on Jim Green boots? The Numzaan seems up my alley
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>>18773910
I only have a pair of their vellies (desert boots) they're comfy and well made for the price. The wide toebox is very wide and comfy, but they do look a little ridiculous, though they do look fine from the sides or even at an angle. I have one of their limited pairs on the way but that won't be here for a while.
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>>18774086
Thanks anon! Yes, they are quite unique looking. An acquired taste, I do find them nifty. Good to know you've had a good experience so far with a pair from Jim Green.
What sole option did you get?
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>>18774126
The vellies have a textured genuine rubber outsole, it's not great on flat, wet surfaces but it's fine on everything else I use it for. I'm a city slicker mostly so I don't need a ton of tread on my boots.
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>>18773070
You have cowboy boots thanks to Italians. Europe is the only reason in the universe why you have good shoes.
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>>18774138
Thanks for info there, anon! Jim Green has some interesting sole options for sure. Hope they're comfortable for ya.

Posting the old Grant Stone Crimson Kudu boots
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>>18774219
i have those too and i can tell that apron is short
put that gun away footlet
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>>18774244
I'm as stealthy as the orang pendek, you lumbering oaf!
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I live in a part of Canada where winter can last for up to 7 months out of the year. I also do a lot of hiking in the summer and have a professional white collar job. Is it possible to have a single pair of leather boots that works for heavy snow, rain, summer hiking, and office wear, or do I need multiple?



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