Choco Roughout Blacksmiths EditionWhat do I need to care for my boots?>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)>Horsehair brush ($10-15)>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bick4/renovateur>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest themHow do I deal with x stain?>mud: allow it to dry then brush off>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're goodno. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.>Are Thursdays any good?no.Manufacturer Red Flags>Luxury>Bespoke>Sustainable>Vegan>Unknown leather source>Made in Chyna/Mexico/IndonesiaBoot Red Flags>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)>C*rk/C*lastic>Zippers>Non gusseted tongues>Excessive/unnecessary seams>Combination/mixed material heelsBoot Brands NO>Turdsdays>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters>any Whatsapp makers in the far east>BlkbrdPREV>>18760418
Post cowboy boots that don't suck
>>18770423does the blacksmith have the same canvas lining as the iron ranger? i could swear it was leather
>>18770446>does the blacksmith have the same canvas lining as the iron ranger?Yes> i could swear it was leatherOld beckmans had a leather lining.
Wassup boot nerdsI’m considering getting my old Red Wing blacksmiths resoled but kind of want a softer sole. Can they do that? I mean can Red Wing put a softer but same type of sole on them? Thanks bros
>>18770476they can put the same wedge sole they put on the 875s onto your blacksmiths
>>18770446blacksmiths have always had the fabric lining as the IRs only the beckmans got the leather lining
>>18770476A good cobbler can pretty much do anything you want Good luck finding a good cobbler though
Kind of tangentially boot related, but are there any sneakers without mushy soles? I much prefer the hard sole of boots but sometimes a man's gotta wear sneakers.
>>18770494feit if you're looking for leather soled sneakers
>>18770423Oh, man! Are those heckin' Red Wings? High quality boots by any measure!
>>18770523When do you stop crying?
why do you /fa/ggots hate Doc Martens?
>>18770437All cowboy boots vary between hot garbage not even worth the 120$ listed price and decent. You gotta realize they started putting rubber on the soles of those boots because leather bottoms are only good for dancing/office work at this point. Round toe is for actual ranchers who ride horses and square toe is for actual blue collar workers. The rest is for posers.
>>18770437Ariat for round toe, Double H for square toe. lean in on the higher price being the better option. If you want actual leather bottoms that hold up well for dancing then go up market 350-500$ range. Elephant leather & Stingray leather have to be fitted properly, they under no circumstances break in. Alligator leather is really weak so only reserved for dancing. Ostridge leather is higher end for work and hold up for a long time but most people can't afford to buy something like that unless they are committed to resoling it more than 3 times of which most boots shit themselves after the third resole.
>>18770557They're poorly made and overpriced
>>18770557Expensive boots for dykes. I really don't like the look of the soles. Besides hiking boots are more effay than them.
>>18770557no shank
>>18770423imagine wearing that lame ass retro shit. it aint 1930 fag
>>18770604They have composite toes now but do they have composite shanks?
>>18770557We like women.
>>18770604Technically they have a wooden shank like an ice cream stick. It breaks easily and doesn't really do anything.
>>18770611Would be worse than cork due to molding. But then again if your entire life is wearing boots you are likely to wear 2 pairs rotating every other day due to sweat mitigation and compression mitigation. That is the OG way militaries used to keep boots lasting longer than 6 months when insoles was cardboard, crappy leather and the soles were leather.
Red Wing is so fucking cringe. The look itself of the boots seems like they were created specifically for reddit guys.
>>18770616Honestly way overpriced for a brand of boots. For their prices you can get better brands/styles/designs. Only thing keeping them reddit afloat is the fact that they have cobblers on payroll. Without that they would have zero value towards the industry.
>>18770618They’re also notoriously the most uncomfortable and hard to break boots out there, but not because the leather is super chunky and the cork filling very thick such as in White’s or Tricker’s, but because they just fucking suck. They feel obnoxious and uncomfortable even months after the break-in period is finished.
>>18770619Sounds like they need a traditional break in cycle where you soak them in water, grease up your ankles and walk through the neighborhood. Really though most full leather boots need like 2 weeks max to break in even the vintage styled WW1/WW2 boots barely took that long to break in properly.
I don't know what you guys are talking about. My Iron Rangers took two weeks to break-in and my mocs less than a week.
>>18770619That’s because they don’t have a midsole.>muh archive modelsAbsolute joke of a brand.>>18770629Retard
>>18770619>but not because the leather is super chunkyi've got the pecos work boots and the leather is thicker than any other work boot i've ownedjustified break-in imho
>>18770634Damn, literally who wears that shit unless you live in Texas?
>>18770637people with jobs. hard for you to relate, i understand.
>>18770639>Nigga doesn't have a real jobYou aren't wearing red wings if you got a real job anon. It's a fashion brand first work brand second.
>>18770640wouldn't use them for wildland firefighting, sure, but they're generally respected as workboots.
>>18770639>>18770643>only the people of Texas out of the whole world have real jobsYou’re a fucking clown.
>>18770644I'm not in Texas, dummy.
>>18770640im an electrician and i take the mocs/ir on site ez cuz i dont wanna die electrocuted. if i need toe guards i just snap them on ez. both are comfy af after the break in period, had them for 5 years best money spent
>>18770643Not when most redwings boots are north of 220$. that's like saying jeans are still the staple for work pants when most people have moved onto ripstop cargo pants for utility/price reasons. But like i said fashion brand first work second. You recoup the value of them through resoling but you could also do that with any goodyear welted boot on the market atleast 3 times before the leather shits itself mind you.
>>18770648Same anon. Never wore mocs what is the kino with them? and what is the downsides?
>>18770649>Not when most redwings boots are north of 220$that's why they're respected, they're nicer and comfier than the usual boot.most dudes just get the cheapest walmart garbage they can find and end up replacing them every year.
>>18770652My experience is that most soles on boots don't last 1500 miles period(mostly vibram last this long). When do you resole them? I am saying that because if they got special sole sauce i need to understand a rough number of miles when that occurs.
>Looking to buy Merrel tactical boots for 100 dollarydoos. >Has a zipperFuck you nigger.
>>18770651downs:the break in period. those were my first boots so they kicked my ass. also it was hard to for me to figure out the right size. ups: definitely they last a shit ton and they do take a beating. i take car4e of them tho but my mocs need a resoling thats for sure. i think these are the only pairs i'll buy i dont wanna go own this rabbit hole desu
>>18770652>end up replacing them every year.So most boots if you don't replace the sole? Dam walmart boots are alot better than they used to be.
>>18770657If you like a brand of shoe/boot/style then you might end up in a rabbit hole eventually with 12 pairs of boots. If boots is the entire rabbit hole then you will end up with 30.
>>18770653three years of use on the pecos and they could stand to get a resole in the next year or so.>>18770658my old pair of GYW lasted me six years before they needed a resole albeit most of that was lighter duty work, my current pair is going on a year now and the soles are fine.both GYW boots have thinner leather than the Redwings, which is what we were originally talking about.
>>18770660I have worn plenty of cheap boots if you actually take the time to condition it(it maintains the same color) or grease it( often darkens it) then the leather is rarely going to give out on you aside from actual concrete work, in which case you rubberize the toe or buy pre-rubberized toes. What drew you to the Pecos instead of any other cowboy boot style?
>>18770661I wanted to try a pull-on boot and I wanted to try Redwings specifically, two birds stoned at once.
>>18770663Makes the most sense for any purchase. Be sure to double check on how to retain the color i used boot grease on 2 pairs of my pull ons and darkened them. Now imagine if i didn't want to get darkened whew.
>>18770561Cowboy boots are traditionally made with leather soles because they're predominantly riding on a horse, not walking. And leather soles are slick and don't get stuck in a stirrup compared to grippy rubber which can literally save your life So it's part tradition and part functional.
So Nicks doesn’t use cork filling uh? Also no steel shank. Remind me why we would pay six hundred bucks for that.>b-but maid by hando! thick leder!
>>18770680Company contracts likely. Loggers tend to wear logging boots. Even so i doubt they would fork it up for them at those prices when they can just give them the same amount for another brand to buy 2 of them. Carolina loggers are good enough imo.
>>18770682>Carolina loggers are good enough imo.What's your take on the brand? Worth it?
>>18770687I haven't tried any other brand in the logging style. Great in the snow and rain if you apply boot wax it becomes somewhat water proof but loses its breathability which is a decent trade off if you are hiking through the woods on short treks in the snow ie 5-10 miles, if you don't apply it then the breathability is pretty good which is why i don't apply it. I have sweaty feet so it's the only downside to loggers due to hits more ridged construction. To compare it to another boot they make that made me go for a logger i would say the corcoran marauder due to its high heel. This higher heel than the marauder gives you a much more stable walking posture when moving through rocks, uneven terrain or bush. I find the soles are pretty good for wet conditions and snow its good for me but for others they might want to consider wool socks if you are deep in the snow. Comfort wise its great 9/10 but you gotta break them in for about a solid week to depress the leather. Spruce: 8" Waterproof Logger (Steel Toe)https://www.carolinashoe.com/en/spruce-8-inch-steel-toe-waterproof-logger-16221.html?dwvar_16221_color=Brown
>>18770687Forgot to add. Only thing that sucks about carolinashoe's is the insoles. They are thin enough to not be uncomfortable but not robust enough to last longer than a year. It cannot be helped. Go with Ariat insoles so you retain the internal foot height. I have also had zero luck with gel inserts.
>>18770688>>18770691Thanks. Appreciate it.
Hello fellow Bootites. I'm looking for a good pair of durable, military-style suede or rough-out boots to do some serious hiking/dicking around in. Black or green preferred. I want something that will last a long time, so budget is secondary to quality. If anyone has any recs, they would be appreciated.
nigga post me a link to roughout service boots nigga, nigga post me a link to tan roughout cowboy boots nigga
>>18770695i cant take this jap old timer seriously. hes like 90 and dresses like 30
Uh, I don't think the leather on my loafers stretching and softening during break in is going to help when it's the stitching that's fucking with my heels
>>18770744These are the types of shoes issued to mountaineering troops. This one listed below is non insulated. You might find the black or brown colors but they won't be rough-outs generally since the military is normally buying those. Leather Personnel Carrier - Whether you're active duty or just plain active for work or play, the LPC offers you Kenetrek's best features the way you asked for them, in military Coyote Brown. Non-insulated model. 4 lbs. Made in Italy. Available in Medium or Wide widths. Men's sizing (whole & half) Medium (5-12, 13, 14) or Wide (8-12, 13)Key Features:8" tall, 2.8mm premium rough-out leather uppers in Coyote Brown (color)Full-length, super supportive, tapered 7mm nylon midsolesKenetrek Supportive Footbeds provide foundational arch support and a pronounced heel pocketHigh traction deep lugged, K-73™ outsoles with increased toe and heel taperNon-insulated for comfort in warmer climatesWindtex® waterproof, breathable, flexible membranehttps://kenetrek.com/collections/work-boots/products/lpc-nihttps://kenetrek.com/collections/work-boots
>>18770874Thank you for your recommendation. >>18770839I hope you were personally inconvenienced by my post.
>>18770935If you are willing to fork out some cash you can always hit up a manufacturer for custom shoes/boots. But man are you going to be paying for it.
>>18770423What company could make the closest equivalent to these vintage boots?
>>18770984Sexy old school ww1 style'd boots.
>>18770984White's Packer
>>18770984https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9rH0tsT2l4
Almost boot weather
>>18771043So everyday of the year then?
>>18770695>My name is Teik and I’m on Anglo-Saxon country here in PerthDamn holy based
>>18770557i don't because i see them for what they are: disposable. i don't baby them or care about the soles wearing out or any of that.
>>18770644wow you are really stupid and esl. you can't read for shit
>>18770654zippers are perfectly fine on quality boots. good brands make good zipper bootsthe issue is cheap shit brands usually use zippers so they're just associated with garbage
>>18770695this old asian dude talking about his super rugged boots is so funny to me.
>>18771400Zippers on boots make no sense, boots are meant to be rugged and weather resistant, zippers are not
>>18771401What’s his accent like to another English speaker?
>>18771399You were already covered in shit in the last thread, subhuman. Give it up.
>>18771400This. Good zippers never break. I have luggage stuff from the 50s, family shit, where the zippers still work perfectly. You’re just used to the abysmal crap amerilards and asians sell.What's more – this shocking discovery will make your jaw drop – zippers can be repaired. They can as long as you don’t live in some distopic row-houses-tier shithole where traditional jobs have been wiped out by jews.>>18771411That’s a whole different point but I’m sure your mind can’t grasp the difference.
Tying you boots up takes like ten seconds and if you absolutely must be able to just get your foot in and go chelseas exist, zipper boots are pointless gay subculture shit for homos.
>>18771472>so mad he didn’t quote
>>18771454ooops, *DYSTOPIAN>inb4 esl
You can call me a Tricker’s guy.
>>18771400The garbage association makes more sense when you realize that the zippers let in water as easily as wearing flip flops. Them randomly binding or breaking doesn't help its case either. IDK find me good side zippers i can't find them.
>>18771526I've literally never seen anyone anywhere have any complaints about RDT's or Addict's side zip boots, hell they seem to be some of their most popular boots.
>>18771526Guidi also makes zipped models.
I just think zippers on boots look ugly and ruin the shilouette with very few exceptions. I don't care about any other argument pro or against them.
>>18771528i literally never heard anyone complain that adward green piccadilly unlined loafers in moss suede let in water, probably means that they're good for wading through ankle high water
>>18770423why are there like 3 brands in total selling zipperless black 20 eyelet boots? theyre either really expensive and look like crap or affordable and look decent but also have shit quality or brands that make custom boots but thats like 600 bucks minimum. also everyone online is saying to buy from surplus stores but ive looked at every non sketch surplus site and none of them sell 20 eye boots
>>18771480sneed me some but the uk sizing has scared me off
>>18771480Nice ones. Got Burford in black zug. Tried that lacing system once but it’s too big brained for me. Makes it a hassle to put on and off. And almost immediately one lace starts becoming longer than the other.Looks nice though
>>18771871You can change the lacing scheme, you know?
>>18770423What's wrong with Solovair?
>>18772068not substantially better than docs
Iron ranger are cool looking and all, but whole fuck are they heavy and clunky and shitty walking in, even when they are broken in. I gave up and just wear some random goodyear welted shoe made in portugal.Any rugged boots thats actually comfortable wearing?
Bought Clarks with gore tex and lining. Very comfortable, lightweight and warm, then the heels came off on both shoes after a few times wearing it. Fuck Clarks. Never again.Never buy anything made in asian country again
>>18772125No one cares that you're a pussy who can't handle some basic as fuck boots because you're a limp wrist fag
>>18772068
>>18772019Are you illiterate?
>>18772190For sure you are.
>>18772201So illiterate and obstinate then
>>18772204>YOU CANT USE SYNONYMS @&#%@£#¥^
>>18772206wtf are you talking about retard. You know you can go back, right? It’s not deleted. Maybe you’ll learn where exactly your mental retardation was triggered. When you’re just learning how to read it’s good to read the same thing over a few times. Helps the learning process!
>>18772253>anon says the lacing system (“system”) of Tricker’s Burford is a hassle for him>ironically tell anon he can change the lacing scheme so that pulling the laces isn’t annoying and no lace ends up being longer than the other>retard starts offending at random because he’s still mad some guy said Iron Rangers are crap (which, in fact, they are)You’re lower than shit to me.
>>18772262Why won’t you just read it again? You’re showing signs of mental illness.>something about iron rangersMy God the schizo…
>>18772285Haha great way to come out into the open right away. Have a good life, subhuman.
>>18772130Damn boy, your feet must be really sore or you wouldnt be so angry
>>18772416>He can't wear boots everyday because it hurts his wittle feetAnon pls.
i have 3 pairs of boots with zippers and the zippers are busted on all of them. are they even worth fixing? zippers are such a fucking scam it's insane
poorfag here, brandit or steel?
>>18772713Nobody is going to fix zippers on a boot
Hellos niggas, looking for something similar to picrel that isn't Martens, any recs?
>>18772792Fracap.
This might be a ridiculous question, but how do I measure my feet properly to know what size boot to order?I know I'm supposed to do it in the evenings since feet swell over the day but I've always had problems getting sizing right even just with sneakers and leather boots seem like they'd be even harder
>>18772887We have these in america
>>18772887you don't, because there's no universal standard for measuring feet and sizing is all over the place
>>18772767Sure if you live in a dystopian shithole. In Italy, Spain, France, Portugal and Great Britain you can find literal boutiques for zipper repairs. Just as you go to the cobbler for repairing soles and to the tailor for mending the rifts.So sorry you’re american.
>>18772902>So sorry you’re americanStop coping. You wish you were in his place.
>>18772902cringe
>>18772969>>18772982I just love so fucking much to be cringe with subhumans
>>18772988oof this yuropoor is MAD mad
>>18772988Uh Oh melty.
>>18772992>is MAD madLmfaooo the dude who spends his entire day here, every day of the weekWhat are those big boy superhero White's even for???
>>18772999What's wrong with Whites or Nicks boots anon? Are you perhaps jealous poor fag? Also zippers are for fags.
>>18772999>he keeps going do you think he's crying while thinking about Americans? doubt it's the first time
>>18773004What's wrong with going out wearing your White's? Why are you here 24/7? Don't you feel any shame at the thought you're the guardian of a fucking boot thread on the gay board of 4chink?
>>18773004I also don't like zippers on boots and I don't get the appeal, but>zippers can't be repairedfalse>zippers are only used by low-tier brandsfalseGuidi, Rolling Dub Trio, Danner, the list goes on>zippers are weak and tend to breakfalsezippers are weak and tend to break only if they're produced by shit-tier producers such as anything that comes from Asialeather luggage is subjected to greater stress and wear and tear than shoes, and yet features zippers even when it comes from top-tier manufacturersStop being a fucking subhuman retarded piece of shit. Your rules, your little closed world. Truly smells rancid and obtuse.
Big zipper shills are in the thread, do not reply to YKK marketers.
Crying about Americans on the American website is extremely stupid. Especially considering Americans have the good cowboy boots and you don't.
>>18773070everyone here already knows who he is and what he's doing and ignores him anyone actually responding to him isn't a regular here
What hiking boots would you consider stylish? I like OD green hiking boots but that's not really effay.
>>18773369Paraboot, they're also functional as a hiking boot but nobody should buy them for performance.
>Boot thread>SHIT BOOT SHIT BOOT>RED FLAG RED FLAG>Not a single recommendation
>>18773389They amerifats somehow think whoever makes a critique is a shill and all who make a critique are one person
>>18773386Thanks anon. Some of them look really nice.
>>18773217Who is he?>>18773389Stop lying pussy. I posted my new boots and I gave 3 recs.
Anyone actually make jack boots?
>>18773406The waxed upper ages very nicely, sizing with Paraboot can be a pain but at least within the EU they offer free returns for any reason.
>>18773416>Who is he?>"please talk about me on an anonymous japanese anime image board please give me attention"
>>18772894The couple shoe stores I went to just had a plastic thingy that only measures the distance from your heel to the toes which seems kind of useless>>18772900So everyone just orders a ton of boots to try on and sends back the shit that doesn't fit? That seems retarded
Why would people buy approach shoes over anything else?
>>18773463If you are ordering them then yeah, it's just rolling the dice
>>18773461Who are you quoting?
Give me some recommendations here within tree fiddy ($350)Only boots I have are Grant Stone Brass Boots in Crimson Kudu from 2024ish. They've been comfortable but I don't want to keep beating on them for hikes and light outdoor work that doesn't need steel toe
should i cop?
ive been tempted to buy some camel colored suede desert/jungle boot but i havent decided what brand yet
>>18773835Garmont is good enough if you are looking for actual function and price of roughly 180$ from their main website. Real question is do want more leather or more nylon?
>>18773839>jungle boot>leatherOh so you are a larper, got it.
>>18773840Jungle boots have leather with them? Are you looking for all nylon construction?
>>18773840Yeah retard find me boots without leather.
>>18773542Thoughts on Jim Green boots? The Numzaan seems up my alley
>>18773910I only have a pair of their vellies (desert boots) they're comfy and well made for the price. The wide toebox is very wide and comfy, but they do look a little ridiculous, though they do look fine from the sides or even at an angle. I have one of their limited pairs on the way but that won't be here for a while.
>>18774086Thanks anon! Yes, they are quite unique looking. An acquired taste, I do find them nifty. Good to know you've had a good experience so far with a pair from Jim Green. What sole option did you get?
>>18774126The vellies have a textured genuine rubber outsole, it's not great on flat, wet surfaces but it's fine on everything else I use it for. I'm a city slicker mostly so I don't need a ton of tread on my boots.
>>18773070You have cowboy boots thanks to Italians. Europe is the only reason in the universe why you have good shoes.
>>18774138Thanks for info there, anon! Jim Green has some interesting sole options for sure. Hope they're comfortable for ya.Posting the old Grant Stone Crimson Kudu boots
>>18774219i have those too and i can tell that apron is shortput that gun away footlet
>>18774244I'm as stealthy as the orang pendek, you lumbering oaf!
I live in a part of Canada where winter can last for up to 7 months out of the year. I also do a lot of hiking in the summer and have a professional white collar job. Is it possible to have a single pair of leather boots that works for heavy snow, rain, summer hiking, and office wear, or do I need multiple?
>>18774170I'm European. I don't have cowboy boots. Nobody in here makes good ones.
I used to hate on Red Wing. It's easy to do when 95% of who wear them are faggot clowns. But honestly, I've taken the Red Wingpill. I hate white wedge soles though. They need more boots with black wedges.
>>18774312Sendra and Sancho Abarca make goodyearwelted cowboy boots. Their designs lean towards fashion and can be tacky, but it's not like you're gonna wear cowboy boots for working in Europe anyway.
>>18774219>boot so ugly they hide it behind a CZ and camouflaged it with the furniture
>>18774344These are ugly as shit and suck ass. I'd enver wear them. Would get a pair for my gf at most. Women can pull off tacky shit.
>>18770437Ariat Benchmade and Blackjack ready to wear are two very good budget options, there are a plethora of great cowboy boots when budget isn't a concern.Pic related Ariat Benchmade
The only pair of waxed flesh boots I have to tank the upcoming salty winter slush is natural/light brown, do you guys think that color looks retarded when your tops are mostly black?
Thoughts on this brand?
>>18774458>do you guys think that color looks retarded when your tops are mostly black?Yes.
>>18774458Nope
>>18774551see >>18774555
Anyone have any experience with pic related please? Durability ok?
>>18770437Tecovas unironically
>>18774755can you really not afford a real shoe?
>>18774781Yes of course but what's unreal about it?
>>18774785then get a real chukka boot instead of wasting 100 bucks for this overpriced made in china/vietnam trash from amazon.
>>18774797Oic. I don't like "real" chukkas, but I may have mistaken them for a "real" brand. I'm not in USA.https://twistedx.com/
>could be anything in life>you’re the guardian of a gayboot general on 4chink
>>18774803And they aren't even a helpful guardian
>>18774449>>18770562Stop recommending Ariat you fucking retard
picking me up some crockett & jones for my birthday next week
>>18774915which ones? i'm torn trying to decide if i want some c&j or jm westons
>>18774916black rough out Conistons
>>18774919i've always liked the conistons but i have so many cap toe boots
>>18772159So what's the alternative? I really like the silhouette/shape.
>>18774960its a standard bulbous service boot
>>18774960You got fracaps. You got french rangers. Austrian paraboots. You got other regularass non-zipper boots that use real leather and not BDSM fetish shit. Or you can grow up and get ropers or engineers.
>>18774458the point of natural leather is to wear it imho
>>18774915>>18774919>pointy fagboots
What do you guys think about https://www.theshoemart.com/alden-shoes/
>>18770649>You recoup the value of them through resoling but you could also do that with any goodyear welted boot on the market atleast 3 times before the leather shits itself mind you.Sure, if you live in a place where resoling is free and that's also assuming the cobbler is good.
>>18772159jfc they're built like liquid dogshit
>>18770476>Red Wing If you don't want to make a 300 dollar mistake then save a bit more money, because once you get into the 600-800 dollar range you're almost certainly going to get a great quality boot. You're not going to get anything good for 300-500 dollars, but you're also at risk of getting something bad if you don't have a good eye for it. In my opinion, the only way a cheap (considering this reasonably cheap) boot can last more than a couple of years of wear is if the wearer doesn't actually really care how they look in the first place. There will come a point when your eye develops and you can't help but notice that your leather is a bit tacky after a few years, and then you'll want to buy more expensive boots anyway.
>>18775181Yes, everybody knows RW is fucking mid. That's not was he's asking, though.
Can you guys help me? I got a pair of blue suede leather boots and the color has faded away. Is there some way to fix them?
>>18775614post pics
>>18775614suede conditioner
>>18772894I finally managed to use one of these many years ago. It didn't help. My feet are just fucked. Thousands and thousand of dollars, pounds, dollarydoos, honktytonkdoos later and I found out that I can only wear:>Alden Trubalance>Cheaney 142 Last>newbalance 990 10Dand that's about fucking it.
>>18775633>Alden Trubalancemy absolute best fitting last of any brand i own. white's mp is also a really good fit for my feet, but the trubalance feels like it was made for me
>>18774893There is literally nothing wrong with their Benchmade line.
>>18770423Found a pair of these used, mostly went for them because they were in my size, rarely found used. Apparently the factory making them doesn't have them for sale atm and size 48 EU has to be ordered specially.Planning on getting them resoled to better fit my planned used as daily fall/winter/spring boots.
>>18770557The leather is very low quality and will split, for starters.
>>18774271Durability wise, yes. Requirement to work in all seasons could be a problem. Winter appropriate boots are always going to be very hot in summer.
what would be the equivalent middle of the road red wing of penny loafers?
>>18776227Meermin
>>18776227Rancourt and Co
>>18776254>>18776298will check it out thanks lads
>>18776227Grantstone, vintage florsheim, vintage allen edmonds
>>18776102Oh my Lord, the boots fit like a glove and I love them, doesn't look like the factory pic on related reply thoug, well worn but immaculate on the inside, which is the only thing I care about. Taking them to the cobbler tomorrow to have the refurbished. Found out they are 400$ new but I got em for 100, thinking about putting a brutal looking Vibram sole on them, right now they have Davos soles that seem somewhat slippery for my intended use.
Seems you guys don't even know Schuh-Bertl, thought you knew your shit, /fa/ lost their swag?Wtf
So I’ve been wearing leather Blucher moc shoes to most “you need to look good” events. I am starting to get kind of unpleased with the look and want to look “cooler” so to speak. I’m thinking leather boots might be the answer.My biggest caveats are that I think I prefer the rugged and more casual look of lug soles.I also don’t want to look like a fag since I’m a 5’7 (but fit) manlet.
>>18776538trickers stow
which would be recommended for a first time buyers boot parkhurst, truman, or grant stone
>>18776547parkhursts are solid and even though they dont look as good as they used to theyre still pretty sexgrant stone is king of variety and availability. you will find something you like and you will find it in your size and they offer e and eee widths too. last inst as sexy but very comfortable boots with impeccable build quality and finishing>truman
>>18776689What's wrong with truman?
Serious question, why the fuck are celastic heel counters even a thing if they're bound to be a piece of shit that will undoubtedly break down? Certainly a single piece of fucking leather can't cost enough to justify using celastic over it. Has the celastic lobby epsteined half of the boot manufacturers into using it?
got my new boots yesterday, breaking them in now!
>>18776881Because it's cheap and fast and keeps costs down for manufacturers in that price tier Any other pointless questions you already know the answer to?
>>18776893bit gay innit?
>>18776893lmao anon I'm so sorry
>>18776893>that gap
>>18776898It's a one dollar difference for a colossal jump in quality, of all the cost cutting methods this seems by far the most retarded considering celastic heel counters take less than a year to fall apart
Trickers Acorn vs C-Shade, Stow vs Malton. Tell me about pros and cons please.
>>18776912Which means you, the consumer, buy another pairLiterally a money printer!
>>18776876what isnt?
Where do you order your boots from?
>>18776912>one dollar retard. leatherboard costs more than celastic, and real leather costs more than leatherboard celastic you just slap on there, heat it up and go. leatherboard must be wetted and shaped, leather must be wetted, shaped, sanded, etc. time is money and money gets passed on to the consumer and the brand that uses these specific materials have a market point they reside in and a costing model they use for that market if they're in the 300 dollar range they need to do 300 dollar manufacturing process and if they're in the 900 dollar range they do 900 dollar manufacturing processes but you're a fucking mongoloid retard who doesn't know how business works so no point waste time on you
>>18777056Directly from the company if it's in stock or from somewhere like Blue Owl or Standard and Strange or one of those
>>18776912because supposedly they hold their shape better and don't deform when wet, that is the reason why brands like wesco and some cowboy boots use themthey want the heel shape to stay rigid for pull-on boots, since supposedly leather heel counters can stretch out and lose their tight fit with wearthat may be a legit concern or just a cope to use cheaper materials, either way i don't think durability is a big concern with wesco heel counters and it's not like they can't be replaced easily anyway, more just a pain to break inthere are people out there that actualy prefer the celastic believe it or not
>>18776924Width
that looks so good and understatedwell done, nigs
>>18777092
ID on boots?
>>18777236They used Frye harness boots for Harry. Not sure about Andy’s pair.
>>18776912Even if it were one dollar that's a hundred thousand dollars of profit lost for every hundred thousand boots they sell.>but they could raise the price by one dollar and keep profits the same!Or they could raise prices by one dollar while keeping the celastic and make more money, goods are priced as high as businesses believe people will pay. Unless celastic vs leather toecap actually proves to be a significant decision making factor for a meaningful amount of consumers to the point where adding one would lead to a notable enough increase in sales to offset the extra cost, they wouldn't bother even if it only cost them a cent to add.
The perfect chukka doesn't exi...
>>18777615>glued
>>18777617Stitching directly to the sole makes it too rigid
>keep routinely larking the boot thread>finally buy timberlands>best boots ever>no one ever mentions them
>>18777680>eyy I'm walkin eeereee
>>18777680my next pair will probably be either doc martens or solovair. also not talked about here.
>>18777697
Do you guys get more pleasure out of new boots, or old boots?
>>18777775oldi love the look and feel of worn in and loved leather footwear, jackets, etc. new boots like shit and breaking them in sucks
>>18777615It does and it is actually made by Sanders & Sanders.>>18777680Used to be really good value boots. I had rather negative experience with them in the past ~10 years, which is why I am not buying them anymore. Same for the 3 lug btw. Leather quality is ass.
>Rick Owens x Dr MartensShould I cop this?
>>18777680Timberland Premium is the most bang for your buck boot on the marketAvoid literally every other Timberland product, they are dogshit
>>18777848Only if you're a huge balding short micropenis crooked teeth lisp having faggot.
>>18777880>no micropenisDamn, so close
Check me out, then check me in
My budget is like 300-500 Eurobucks and I need easy free returns since I'm not sure what my sizes are likeWhat would be a good first boot to try? So far I've only ever worn sneakers.I mainly wear chinos, sweaters, chore coats, sometimes a t-shirt with a dark flannel over it
>>18777936red wing
>>18777938What kind of model do you think is good?
>>18777939the 875/877 moc toe is pretty classic, the muleskinner blacksmith or iron ranger is a good choice, if you want smooth leather instead go for copper rough and tough, the iron ranger 8000 is a nice limited option available now
Which one do you /fa/ggots use for conditioning?>pure neatsfoot oil >pure mink oil>pure jojoba oil>pure olive oil>pure extra virgin olive oil (EVOO)>pure mineral oil>lanolin>home mixes of the above>commercial products, e.g. Lexol, Saphir Renovateur, Venetian Shoe Cream, Bick4, Horween, Red Wing, KiwiI also found a cool thread while I was doing research on this:https://www.reddit.com/r/goodyearwelt/comments/mc9y9f/long_term_conditioner_test_20_month_update/
>>18777986Honestly? I just use this random ass nourishing bees wax creme thing I picked off of Amazon ages ago.All these different oils and shit are really only good if you want a very specific look or polish your shoes up to a shine or something.I'm happy with my boots looking used. I think it's much nicer than having uniform super shiny shoes.
>>18777987Thanks for sharing your opinion, anon. Good point. Yeah, I forgot to mention beeswax too, which has a similar waterproofing effect to jojoba oil (actually a liquid wax) and lanolin (also some sort of natural wax mix from sheep). I have a bottle of Fiebing's NFO that I've been using on stuff like wallets, belts, etc., which has worked well (the finish is even), but for my shoes I too used some generic mink oil cream mixed with waxes and petroleum jelly
>>18777845>SandersTheir profile is slightly less streamlined and I needed black soles but yeah, they are indeed absolutely fabulous.
Anyone ever try Shoepassion?They have a shitload of designs that look pretty sweet. Pricing wise it's a step above Meermin and so on though so I'm thinking at that point I might as well spring for Carmina or another Italian brand
>>18777849lol
>>18777986Commercial products are the way to go as they won't spoil inside your leather and it is harder to over-condition, I prefer pure polish but Saphir is great too.
>>18777936https://www.skolyx.com/p/yanko-service-boot-dark-brown-chromex
>>18778036Also this company is located in the EU, it's manufactured in Spain you won't have to pay extra except VAT or whatever you guys pay.
>>18777986Obenauf's.
When I'm breaking in high quality boots can I just have them on while sitting at home at the PC or would the flexing there be too different from walking and make them get weird over time?
I'm new to boots and am looking for some boots to pair up with my straight jeans, would prefer it to be easy to take off to tortue my colleagues with my feet smell, what options do i have
>>18778036These are pretty nice. Returns aren't free but I can deal with 20€ to make sure my size fits right.I'll probably get something from their shop.I'm thinking a boot with captoe might be more versatile though, or is that wrong? Are there any sort of "rules" what fits better or is it all sort of just personal preference?
I got some basic blunstones, classics. I've never wore chelsea boots before. I have some crowding around the 5th and 4th toes. Curious if anyone has advice for if I would half a size up or if breaking them in will take care of it? Worried that half sizing up they be too loose
>>18778340blundstone don't make half sizes they tell you to remove the insole to make it the half size
convince me not to buy these
>>18778345from what i read they do make half sizes but they don't lengthen the boot, they widen it
>>18777986mink oil
>>18778348by removing the provided insole
>>18778346Will be too warm in all but winter. They are kinda tuff though, ironically and unironically. I like panting boots, I almost bought these when they were still new but I never pulled the trigger.
Wore my Indy boots for the first this season and I missed them so much
>>18778346Can you remove the furry bits?
>>18770557You haven't experienced true pain until you've tried breaking in a pair of DMs
>>18770557Bcs they look bad you can get better looking Boots for a lot cheaper too
>>18778464Doc Martens are like 150 bucks, you're definitely not getting anything worth a shit for a lot cheaper than that.
Got lucky thrifting today, i scored 3 pairs of Martens, all 3 pairs are the same size that i wear... hon4estly think a guy died and somene just donated his shoes.Any idea on how old are these? the platform pair look from the 90s, but the other 2 look way older than that unless they made a re-production of their "vintage" models.pic 1 of 6
>>187785162 of 6
>>187785173 of 6
>>187785184 of 6forgot to mention all 3 pairs are Made in England.
>>187785205 of 6
>>187785236 of 6
Imagine buying disgusting blown out fast fashion shoes that have been drenched in bodily fluids and being so proud of it you spam pictures of them online
>>18778538>pre-2010s>fast fashion
nice patina on a pair of Velasca boots
Do you guys use leather inserts on your boots? How often do you change them for new ones?
>>18778614No because I only buy things that fit so no need for space taking inserts
>>18778632bitter
>>18778592>fake plastic welts with molded in deco stitchesdirty mall tier shitters
>>18778670Hi, boot general guardian. How many hours did you spend on here today?
>>18776924the acorn antique is the most iconic trickers colorway, which i don't get at allthey use a heavy pigment coating to make it a golden tan color and hide the natural leather underneaththe problem is that yellow fades into an ugly drab color, the coating itself cracks and the leather stains really bad around the broguing, the leather edges and anywhere where the actual leather gets exposed
>>18776924Malton is just Stow but wider. C-Shade is really thick and stiff, harder to break in than other types of Tricker’s leather. In my opinion the real gem they have is the marron antique.>>18778690>the coating itself cracks and the leather stains really bad around the broguing, the leather edges and anywhere where the actual leather gets exposedNothing of this ever happens, better you get back to your hamburger, grandpa
>>18778670What a fucking retard lmao
>>18778690that's just not taking care of your nice things. the acorn color is great
>>18778516What fuckin size are those bro? A men’s 4?
Looking for a low profile cream colored boots, already have 2 pairs of Wescos and a pair of Tin Hauls. Too many chunky boots, looking for something pointy and flat. Recs?
>>18778772Luojiset T.G. Escape boondocker, shoe or boot.Grantstone dirty buck.
>>18770423Are Ariat ropers worth it? I need to replace a pair of shoes and just not sure if Ariats are worth the price or not. How do they size? I have RW Blacksmiths in 8.5.
>>18778592What model is this?
>>18778798just get red wing pecos and call it a day
Is Viberg worth it?
No
>>18770654You’re loss for listening to a post you read on 4cuck you decrepit retard, I unironically refuse to purchase any high top shoes without a zipper these days. And to think I’ve been wearing my wolverine 1000 mile leather toe capped ranger boots wrong all these years, all it took was loosening up the laces like a hoodlum for instant donning and doffing… Nevermind sounding like a horse galloping due to the all leather Goodyear welt Truly #archivalI wore my Rick mega tooth boots every weekend and would walk miles through the city in them, and now I’ve recently waxed them too
>>18778851Technically no heritage boots are actually worth it. We buy them anyway
>>18778754all of them are UK 8's
>got a nasty blister on my front of my foot Ouchie
>>18778851Absolutely not
How am I looking?
make a new threads, faggots. be done with this terrible one already
>>18778851$1300 for ordinary CXL boots that are still machine-lasted. Any other brand would have been cost to performance ratio.
>>18779018Why?
>>18779052is it your camera or is the last really weird
>>18779090Viberg is ONLY worth it if you absolutely must have the specific shape of the 2030 last. It's iconic to many and it's worth it to pay for it But otherwise you're paying for the name, paying for Brett Viberg's ego and paying for an inferior product Brett is so obsessed with his "work" boots competing with dressier brands he made the SPI so small on his boots they cannot resole them anymore. They are absolutely not $1k+ boots
>>18779109>Brett is so obsessed with his "work" boots competing with dressier brandsso why the hell did they discontinue their actual workboot line
>>18779116they didn't, it's still available on a separate website and i they sell them out the back of their factory building>workboot.com
>>18779120
>>18779121lol, brett actually axed it immediately after daddy retiredhe said somewhere he wants to keep the work line going because it gives them legitimacy as a PNW brand, apparently that was total bullshit
>>18778798Ariats standard line is not worth the retail price. The leather is really hard and never gets flexible/pliable and the shaft is leather lined but inside the vamp is filled with synthetic liners. I've heard the benchmade boots are good.
>>18779052mismatched styles
walk in here lads>>18779496
>>18774312make your own boots faggot you just need>a last>upper leather>lining leather>insole/bottoming leather>welt leather>a sewing machine>sewing thread for uppers>thread for inseaming and outsole>pitch or hard wax for the inseaming/outseaming thread>leather glue>rubber cement>a hole punch for eyelets>eyelets>a press die set to crimp the eyelets>a shoemaking/utility knife if you don't want to also get the more specific knives like a feathering/holdfast carving knife, sole trimming/lip knife>a hammer>lasting pliers>lasting nails>a shank>leather edge groover>inseaming awl>outseaming awl>awl holder>2 curved needles for handstitching>nails/tacks>wooden pegs for heels if your last doesn't have a metal plate underneath to crimp clinch nails>some kind of sole and top lift>fudge wheel/stitch marker/compass and a stitch groover to make the outsole stitch look even and clean(er)>edge dye>gum trag/tokonole/beeswax for edge finish>blood, sweat and tearscheck the prices on these for yourself and add it all up, do the math and see if you want to take the plunge then fren (short for frenulum since we're both european and we still have our sensitive foreskins)this is all to make a ghetto looking boot, that's completely unwearable, the pattern sucks, the lasting is crooked, the stitching is janky, because you have no idea what you're doing
>>18777680>>18777697
