New Watch Thread right here.
Love that Rolex.
>>18782212 So perfect
>>18782235There's a reason everyone loves that there Rolex. Yep.I don't know what it is though.
get the papers get the papers
the paper watches
>>18782235Its only downside is that the bezel isn't bidirectionalIs it an NPC choice that my grail is a Submariner?
>>18782242Totally. Least unique and interesting watch. Most overpriced for what you get. Good luck buying one without "developing a relationship" with a salesman or "A.D.".
>>18782242You'd have to go for either a GMT Master or Yachtmaster if you want a bidirectional bezel. And the Yachtmaster bezel sounds and feels really squishy and nasty, so it's actually just down to the GMT master.They used to make all black GMT bezels, I wonder if the black beauty will ever come back.
>>18782230I like the simplicity of the Rolex Explorer
>>18782246Nah this shit just looks like a submarinerBut unidirectional bezel is not a dealbreaker imo.submariner really is the most balanced watch, and more useful than a datejust/op just because of the bezel.I never understood why people love chronographs so much. There is nothing more elegant than rotating bezel for having a "stopwatch"
>>18782246You could also try and find a Turn-o-graph, but that's a lot dressier-looking.
>>18782250I was talking to someone who wants a submariner but doesn't like the unidirectional bezel. "It looks like a submariner" is a pretty retarded, no-shit kind of reaction.
>>18782250Chronographs are a much more precise means of timing things for when seconds and fractions of seconds matter. If that matters to you and what you want to time with it then chronograph is kind of non-negotiable.
For me, it's the Oyster Perpetual
>>18782274If someone here gets this watch and uses it to post the daily "coffee time" I'll allow it. Perfect coffee watch.
>>18782247Rolex makes two good watches, the explorer and the yacht master 2. Everything else they make is shit
>>18782287I have a beautiful Tissot, I can't justify an Explorer.Maybe I'll buy another Tissot, but quartz this time.
>>18782287Pretty much every watch Rolex currently makes that they made before the 90s is iconic and defined an entire category of watches.
>>18782274Best current OP. Show us more anon.
>>18782288Which Tissot?
>wear this watch a few days>immediately get compliments>where my vacherons for years>no one says anythingI...
>>18782367You and that sad, faggy image again?? Must be dying for some attention.
Whiskie time.
>>18782367It's more eye catching with that popping red dial. Pretty simple to explain>>18782370Seeth POORS
>>18782371But you don't have that watch anymore. You only have very old images of it and cannot produce a new one with a timestamp. Imagine living off of 'the glory' of a watch you don't even own. What a fucking pathetic faggot you are.
>>18782372You like little girl art. You're a fucking pervert manchild and you should leave.
You never earned a single dollar on your own so you don't get to be superior about daddy's money. You are poor.
>>18782302Pair with this and you're a pussy monster
>YOU DON'T OWN ANY WATCHES>YOU DON'T OWN THAT WATCH>YOU DON'T OWN THAT WATCH ANYMORE>YOU DIDN'T PAY FOR THAT WATCH
>>18782367>>18782372This is far more fitting for someone with your perversions. The others are incongruent to your lifestyle.
>>18782378You don't, you Finnish Nazi incel. I called you out and you know you can't produce. Fuck off. Stop posting pics of shit you no longer have in your possession.
>>18782379>like watches>like anime i don't see a problem(please no bully.)
>>18782391Post watch with kofe pls
>>18782396he's probably brown, so won't post covfee time
>>18782400What's he gonna post? Shwarma time?
>>18782391Are those fucking COLORING BOOKS?? Damn, you're really mentally a child, aren't you? Good thing you're taken care of with money. You couldn't survive the real, adult world.
So what are your thoughts on these Chinese Super Clones i keep hearing about?
I don't think about them at all.
>>18782421Last thread a bunch of people got triggered because someone bought a mid tier submariner clone. Rolex owners in particular I think are really seething. Everyone can see the writing on the wall that if even verified dealers can't tell the real from the superclone without sending it off to Switzerland for weeks of costly disassembly, the secondary market for retail watches is going to collapse. Vintage watch owners are sitting pretty and that value may even go up since at least you can verify it's genuine - can't convincingly clone a patina yet.
>>18782444looks like a child's toy watch
>>18782382This is beautiful. Exquisite taste!
>>18782367jap watches have this effect. theyre neat and approachable. the only watches people ever comment on is my white g shock and skx. the red citizen is based
>>18782439Nobody is triggered, they just said it's a shit fake of a watch that doesn't exist.
>>18782453And yet, besides that the colour doesn't exist, nobody could demonstrate that it was a fake. Curious. Do you think the seethe comes from genuine Rolex owners, realizing their 10k watch that cost 1k to produce will soon be worth 2k? Or is it people who can't afford a Rolex anyway seething that someone took the easy route?
>>18782364T127.407.11.091.01
>>18782455You could definitely do so and people did.>even if they made a green gold submariner that's not the green they would have used>the color of the gold is cheesy>the printing on the dial is the wrong color>the date and magnifier is horribleAmong other things.
>>18782466>the colour on this watch that doesn't exist isn't right>the gold is too gold coloured Why even write these? Just making my point.You're right about the magnifier though, that's the only tell from what I can see. It's not 2.5x, maybe its 1.5 or something. I have to suspect if the 300 dollar clones have only this flaw, the 500-1000 dollar ones certainly rectify it.You also didn't answer my question - are you a Rolex owner, or a Rolex striver? Trying to pinpoint the source of the insecurity
>>18782468Yeah, I don't get why people fellate that brand so much. Not just here but everywhere. They let the name "Rolex" carry so much weight. It's silly. I would feel stupid wearing one if I wasn't extremely wealthy. Even then I'd probably have more sense than to spend so much on one watch. They're worth maybe $2K in parts and labor. The rest is to pay Leo and golfers endorsement money.
>>18782468Compare that green to the actual rolex green. The brand uses a specific green.Alsoncompare the gold to an actual gold submariner. Also compare the finishes on the bracelet, the fake looks terrible.
What are the risks of using a 18mm strap on a 20mm adapter? Unfortunately I can't get my 20mm strap to fit.
>>18782471Because it's the most famous brand, the Submariner the most famous watch in the world. At least among luxury watches. As shrimple as that>>18782473>Compare that green to the actual rolex green. Anon, it's a colour combination that doesn't exist. We've been through this twice.>The brand uses a specific green.No it doesn't. Rolex uses several shades of green. See pic.>Alsoncompare the gold to an actual gold submariner.The gold looks the same. The clones use real gold, you know that right? They use something called gold plating, so there's a very thin veneer of gold that inevitably chips off with enough damage. It's actually very cheap. In any case, like the green colour, they use a variety of gold alloy combos. Just do a google image search, the gold is in all different colours.
The gold here looks fake too, right?>currently being sold for 48k
>>18782475 (me)Wait I'm a fucking idiot. Disregard this. I don't have a 20mm strap. I had a 22mm strap.
>>18782372Boomer watches
>>18782476>shrimple
How about those chinese brands??
What are some of the cheapest mechanical Seikos that are actually kind of nice?
>>18782367It's almost like it is the best watch ever made.
>>18782486>red dial Seiko and Citizen have exactly the same design >I prefer the Citizenhow come?
>>18782374
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>>18782532seethe tranny
>>18782521I will only tolerate anime on my watch threads when they make a show about watchmaking.It can be realistic, it can be SoL, it can be a gag-a-minute comedy, it can be a battle shounen where characters represent different models, doesn't matter.But there needs to be an anime about watches already.
>>18782476Are you really still pretending to be retarded? You are pretending, right?
>>18782534Anime pervert adult man calling anyone else a 'tranny'. kek
>>18782535I don't know if it's actually about watchmaking, but there's definitely a Manga with a lot of watches in it. People have posted screen captures from it here with girls wearing speedmasters and shit.
>>18782439Nah they’re Franken-fucking watches now especially Rolex Take a few parts off a gen, put it on a fake end up with 3 Rolex watches that have a few aftermarket parts
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHI9vcxMckJ/Did you know that HMT silently dropped this?
>>18782502The 6218 Weekdater.
>>18782542Sirs... Is likely it of perfect ? ? ?You to say dont like of, WHO ARE YUO to be of critic ? !Gold... And of quartz in accurate for best in funtcions ? How this NOT luxury ? ?Beauty
>>18782544The diagnosis? Profound mental retardation.The treatment? Gun to head, funny knot hanging from the ceiling or backflip off a high bridge.
>>18782542What's that last watch with the dharma wheel?
>>18782498Right now you can get a 37mm automatic San Martin pilot watch for $112.
>>18782545kek
>>18782498>no history>no future>barely a present>no safetyAvoid
>>18782562So yuo in critics... HOW ?See the liking in gold of bezel around face... But dont' luxury ? ? ? Why..And for quarts ! ! ! Its in and to function !You dont see.... But of function then ! !
>>18782566What is the quintessential jeet watch?
wearing this almost everyday (:
>>18782570Rado.
>>18782570Your watch, saar
>>18782536>lost the argument with photo proof>ad hom token replyevery time
>>18782601The rolexes in that picture have the same color bezel even if the fuctarded puctures you use don't look like it. The fake is a different color, and it has fucking yellow highlighter marker coloring the marks on the bezel. They're different fucking worlds, kid. And again, the brushing and polishing on the bracelet is wrong. Please stop suckling the cope cock.
>>18782607The numbers on the fake bezel aren't even straight.Like, is this kid serious?
>>18782607Ah yes, definitely the same colour. >Do Submariner green rolexes all use the same color of green?>No, the greens differ between models, and sometimes between examples of the same model.>16610LV “Kermit” (2003-2010): The green is on an aluminum bezel insert with a black dial. It’s a brighter, yellower, almost lime green.>116610LV “Hulk” (2010-2020): The green is a ceramic (Cerachrom) bezel with a matching green sunburst dial.>26610LV “Starbucks” (2020-present): This has a ceramic bezel with a black dial. The green is darker and more muted than the Hulk, closer to a deep forest or Starbucks green.You've successfully trolled me by pretending to be retarded. Well done>>18782609>samefagging
San Martin chads, please release more dial colors for this watch.With a color I like, buying this lets me skip the following watches:>Seiko Alpinist>Hamilton Khaki Field Murph>Oris Big CrownAnd this for only 160 buckaroos.
why are rolex owners so insecure about clones?
why do clone owners need Rolex owners to acknowledge them?
Why
>my rolex that is 60% swiss parts, 40% chinese parts is real
what a huge disappointment. It's the same as last year, but with ghosts on the glass that will definitely scratch off over time.
kofe vibes
>>18782628I like ghost-themed stuff
what an ugly shitter
>>18782652Leave your mom out of this.
>>18782657Ewwww>>18782652At this point I don't even know which post you're referring to.
$2,450.00
>>18782658He’s a spammer. If we had any moderation he’d have been banned a long, long time ago.
>>18782514I prefer my Seiko but that Red Citizen looks quite nice too. My dial is a bit different; it has an Asanoha (Hemp Leaf) design on it. My phone camera and the lighting in my bedroom just sucks. I'll see if I can dig up a better pic.
>>18782628They appear to be on the underside of the crystal.
>>18782514>>18782678This one has a bit better lighting.
>>18782663>$2,450.00This is Mr. Jones tier, the price is a bit ridiculous for that.
>>18782682But it's fuzzy and smudged. Go out when there is sun, some phones struggle with making good photos of watches in low lighting.
The Bulgari serpent watch is perfect. It needs to be paired with a turtleneck and CHANEL BY KARL LAGERFELD SS 2000 ICONIC FUTURISTIC SUNGLASSES and a Loro Piana puffer jacketThat outfit would go SO hard.
>>18782697you meant to reply to >>18782570 right?right?please anon
>>18782614They're the same, dipshit. The only difference between starbucks and hulk is the dial.
>>18782704
>>18782617Good call
>>18782617Buy an ad already.
>>18782751What about all the Rolex glazing? No one asks those poser faggots to buy an ad.Is that because someone here might actually purchase a San Martin while there's never been a case of "Hey guys, check out my new Rolex I just bought!" ??Dumbshit.
>>18782706>>18782704Good try but no>https://monochrome-watches.com/comparitive-review-green-bezel-black-dial-rolex-submariner-kermit-16610lv-vs-rolex-submariner-starbucks-126610lv/How is it you're whiteknighting Rolex against the clones yet don't know anything about Rolex watches? Go have a lie down, cupcake
kek he's posting shitters
>>18782755Just buy an ad, guy.
>>18782760It’s crazy how much the aluminum bezel insert Rolexes mog the ceramic insert ones
>>18782771Yes, because I am Chinese and I'm here pushing Chinese watches of a certain brand. There could actually be a banner advertisement on 4chan for San Martin watches if only I'd do this correctly.
>>18782807decline? declined?unless there are more beads that said "decline pushups" this is pretty cringe
>>18782810>could never afford watch pictured >quick, find something insanely arbitrary to insult!never change 4chanI for one am looking forward to the return of the king
>>18782813That looks like a 50 dollar watch though, you're saying it costs more?
>>18782760Kermit is only different because it's aluminum. I'm comparing like to like, ceramic to ceramic. There's only one ceramic green they used. Jesus christ you're retarded, why do I let you troll me?
>>18782815>moving the goalposts this hard
>>18782816I literally said starbucks and hulk in my post and that's the picture I posted. Retard.
YOU GUYS i got a free 30 days of data from AT&T >: ] so be prepared to look at Navitimers errrryyydaaayy
>>18782701>>18782701Nope.
What the fuck is a G-Shock? I thought it was a model of watch, but it's a bunch of watches, some that seemingly have nothing to do with each other.
>>18782831idk but they all make me sad
>>18782813>cannot refute the cringe of wearing a "decline" beaded bracelet for emo 16yo girlsill say good watch when you take it off. why wear some bullshit next to the watch like that?
>>18782825Take a bath, you demented hobo.
>>18782807>Disgustingly hairy, swarthy man with overpriced pilot watch and faggy bracelet shops for toilet.
>>18782826Those are for girls.
>>18782563And that beijin watch factory or peacock doesn't sound good???
Mountain jews fags doesn't realize most people here do not have 4 digits to buy a (put swiss brand here) watch....
>>18782819You said Rolex uses a specific green, and that the clone wasn't that green. I proved you wrong repeatedly. Now you're saying >w-well they use a few specific greens!!Keep coping about Rolex clones
>>18782848And ???
This 37mm Citizen is cool. Too expensive to not have sapphire though.
>>18782846they did this to me
This is pretty cool for $60. From the 80s with a new battery.
>>18782875Wow, is that the watch Mads Mickelson wears in Casino Royale?
There's something about this watch. Reminds me of a JC Penney Fall catalog from 1986. Would wear with sweater and scarf.
1 bid
>>18782864I know it’s off topic but I actually want to hear your life story and what you supposedly did that the CIA and US police force care enough to track you across multiple countries as you claim.
>>18782885There's no origin story. If they had good reason to believe someone's after them they wouldn't be schizo.
$145
>>18782563>>no historyEverything they do is based on horological history and the collective knowledge that comes from it>>no futureUnless the Swiss and the Japanese decide to start matching their low prices, they definitely have a future. The world won't run out of poorfags any time soon.>>barely a present LOL>>no safetyYou are saying this based on what? San Martin and some other brands come with a warranty of 2 years. They even care about public image and send needed parts to random redditors for free and apologise for the thing being broken.What more can you ask from such a cheap brand? If something breaks after the warranty period, just take it to any normal watchmaker for repair, they use common movements anyway.
>>18782919Chinese watches are bad.. Because, well, they just are! OK!?
>>18782642gay plasitc toddler watch
>>18782919This. I've had way more issues with my non-Chinese watches.
Some vintage Chinese watches are fucking kino if you are ok with manual wind
>>18782628I didn't like last year's release either.I was specifically looking out for it since I loved the purple/orange color scheme and the ghosts from the previous years, but then last year it turned out to be a bare metal affair with no color.
Y/N?
>>18782937>$400 for chinkshitNigga you insane
>>18782899Is this a thick watch, or is his strong bristly hair pushing the watch away from his skin? It's like his hair is rejecting the shitter.
>>18782942The more you spend the more you get. Especially in China where prices are amazing. Did you see that micro rotor movement? Find any other brand offering a cool original design with top specs and finishing and everything you see there.
>>18782947Yeah, crushing authoritarianism and unethical working conditions are "amazing."
Specht & Söhne with multiple versions of the 38mm Murph now.
>>18782949I'm not paying thousands more so some Swiss asshole can get $80/hr to buff watch parts in some idyllic snowy paradise.
>>18782953You could pay more to not perpetuate suffering and line the pockets of actual evil though?
There are popular Swiss watch brands that source their parts and components from Chinese factories.
>>18782952They look terrible.
>>18782954Not every Chinese factory is like the iPhone ones where everyone is suicidal slaves. The cost of living is lower and I'm sure plenty of people are content with their lives making these watches. They do a great job. >suffering>evilFuck off with your silly exaggerations, dipshit.
>>18782956Being Chinese is not necessarily an indication of abuse. Producing and selling an entire automatic watch for $100 is. Tourbuillons under $1k is.
>>18782959What abuse? You don't understand anything. Labor is only one of the reasons they can offer low prices. China makes the steel for the world. What the fuck do you care? You don't own a competing watch company so you must just feel threatened that you overspent on non-Chinese watches. Pretending there's some moral reason to ignore such tremendous deals. You're a fucking faggot, dude.
>>18782960>Labor is only one of the reasons they can offer low prices.The others are backbreaking authoritarianism and inadequate safety.
>>18782960Yeah, everyone just needs to accept that greedy fucks decided for all of us 60 years ago that we need to "globalize" by moving nearly all industry and jobs to the third world so that western countries would no longer be able to sustain themselves but at least only the lesser slave races have jobs and abject poverty. It's worth it to get really shitty steel cheap. It's worth it to ship fruit produced in north america to thailand to be processed and canned and then ship it back here, instead of just canning the shit here. Just think of all that diesel being burned and all the people in north america that could have nice factory jobs with good pay producing domestic products, but Ping Ping needed the job more than them. FUCK I love globalization.
>>18782964Yes, it sucks that the US doesn't make cars and watches and everything else in country and pay its employees a living wage. But that doesn't mean I'm going to pay 5X more for essentially the same watch just because fewer of the Chinese parts are assembled in China. That's senseless logic. Ping Ping will starve if I don't grab another shitter on sale.
>>18782967>It sucks that people aren't getting paid and treated ethically>But being unethical gets me cheap shit, so fuck itThe absolute state of liberalism.
>>18782970What liberalism? You're a simpleton. Leave your retarded grasp of unrelated politics at the door.
>>18782952why not buy the murph instead?
>>18782970I'M not being unethical by buying cheap watches. It's not like everything you buy comes from happy unionized workers, you fucking hypocrite.You have shirts and food and plastic garbage from 3rd world countries. You're surrounded by it. It's in you. You don't even have a watch. You just want to argue because you have no life.
>>18782973I'm not paying $1,000 for a watch. I'm not buying the Specht either. But someone might want it. The draw is the plethora of available colors.
>>18782974>I'M not being unethical by buying cheap watchesYou are though. They wouldn't be doing this shit if nobody bought it.
>>18782972It's a socioECONOMIC position.
>>18782976You can't prove anyone is suffering for those watches. And even if you could, it's quite a bullshit stretch to say anyone buying is cracking the whip. I don't know why you're making such a disingenuous argument while living within the same system and living no differently than me or anyone else.
Just draws the line specifically with cheap labor watches I guess. To serve your bullshit brand snobbery. Poser.
>>18782979I buy western made stuff at every opportunity. The trouble is it's become very difficult to find those opportunities. There's a lot of stuff that literally cannot be made in the west. Oddly enough it's mostly luxury goods where you actually have a choice, plus a lot of American and European tool companies.
>>18782980There are also popular luxury brands that subcontract the Chinese factories with Chinese laborers located inside the western country, or located in China. These luxury brands also subcontract South Asia and SEA labor.
Are we gonna just skip the fact that little human labor actually goes into all affordable watches, including these chinese ones that we are talking about now?Most of that stuff is made by machines, and a 3rd party movement (usually japanese) is installed.
>>18782978Have you never seen liveleak? How many liveleak factory accident videos have chinese text on them?
>>18782998>Pro tip: use data instead when backing up your claims instead of anecdotes
shittercel you should move to china and work in a factory
"Swiss made" watches only require 60% of the watch to be made in Switzerland. Guess where the other 40% is being made?
>>18783027You can do research and choose to buy watches made in Switzerland, Germany or Japan.
Holy christ what an ugly shitter. You paid how much for that thing? Holy fuck youre a fucking idiot.
>>18783034The printed word 'Made' on the dial should instead be 'Assembled'.
Still cannot decide whether to get the black dial or white dial watch for my Saul Goodman project. Wanted to go with this Citizen instead of that digital watch, because I want to give it my own spin. I already have a black dial gold tone watch, but somehow it appeals to me more. The white dial watch seems more versatile to me. What does /wt think?
>>18783047There are brands that don't do the bare minimum, anon. Also, the standards for "made in Germany" are much more strict. I think that's also true for "made in Japan," but I'm not sure.
>>18782964Yeah retarded boomer businessmen ate that shit up in the 80's. "globalization was supposed to make their standard of living better not ours poorer, we were doing it to make the world a better place!"Yeah ok boomer, shipping all our production overseas was going to make us richer?t. has boomer dad who believed that
>>18783049>Wearing gold as a manKys kaffir
>>18782542
>>18782936YES
>>18783049White dial if you already have a gold tone black dial.
>>18782998Not from the watch companies I buy from. How racist of you to lump all Chinese together.
>>18783049I just don't like gold.
>>18783101It didn't make US richer, but it did make the CEOs and shareholders richer by far. Cut out union minimums and healthcare and the living wages the employees here had. Then replace that with a couple of QC guys over there and shipment back. Maybe even ship from there. Way cheaper for them while the prices also rise.
sneed
Thinking of buying a tudor royal 36
Is alpina and nivada chink shit?
Would you wear a silly watch?
>>18783203Why aren't you CEO/Shareholder? Shit family?
>>18783251I am already a silly fool, so I need random things like watches to keep me from descending too deep into that. A normal adult-looking watch for me it is.
>>18783289Post ciggies
>>18783289Nice
this
>>18783203>POV: you're at the cusp of realizing the problem is actually capitalism but you blame China instead
>>18782964The decline in American wealth that happened since the postwar period is often blamed on globalization but a big reason why a guy was able to support a whole family and buy a mansion on a factory salary in the 50s is because America was basically the last country on earth that could produce anything after the war. Everyone else who was civilized at the time got bombed to smithereens and had to spend decades rebuilding their countries and breeding more males. And the third would still lived in grass huts so it would be a very long time before they could compete in manufacturing. This situation allowed us to basically scalp the rest of the world on cars, food, materials, technology, and medication, because we were the only completely unbombed country at the time. The way everyone else eventually caught up and conditions in America got worse was completely inevitable. Things today are more normal in terms of historical precedent than they were then. That postwar golden age was an extreme aberration.
>>18783329The unique state of wealth inequality in the US and the total loss of manufacturing capability can just as easily be blamed on the lack of sufficient capitalism. I know you people use that term just to describe anything you don't like so this argument will probably fall on deaf ears, but America is not totally a free market, and most of the things you don't like are actually caused or majorly amplified by the fact that the government actually makes anti-capitalist regulations that protect large corporations at the expense of small companies. Some of these are called safety regulations and restrict how operations can be done, or who can buy the products. Some of them are licensing regulations that restrict who can do things, or who can build things. Some of them are zoning and environmental regulations that restrict
>>18783340>that restrictWhere you can do things and when. And there are regulations that restrict who you're allowed to hire, forcing our companies to hire minorities and women for the sake of diversity at the expense of efficiency and output. All of these things are what contribute to the environment we find ourselves in today, where starting a business to compete with corporations in most industries is basically impossible because it takes a massive company and a team of lawyers just to get through all the red tape. So the corporations have monopolies and they're allowed to just do whatever they want. And that's also why healthcare is so expensive: The monopoly on drug research and manufacturing which allows them to charge high prices is caused by regulations. Your access to drugs without going through expensive doctors and pharmacists is restricted by regulations. The high price of doctors, pharmacists, and hospitals is caused by their artificially limited supply, because of regulations on who can practice medicine and who can sign off on prescriptions and diagnoses. And it sounds like I'm suggesting we do away with licensure entirely but I'm not. They actually restrict the flow of medical school graduates into the field on purpose because the board that grants licenses wants to keep the field lucrative. And they don't allow nurses to legally do simple and easy things that they literally already do without a real doctor signing off on it for the same reason. And medical school, and college in general, is so expensive because of regulations too. In this case it's because the government gives out loans to children for any amount of money, no questions asked, and does not allow you to declare bankruptcy to get out of it. This is not a natural financial product that the free market would ever offer anyone, it's literally an anti-capitalist program. And it allows colleges to charge anything they want for a degree because the government is paying.
>>18783345And all of this is caused by the fact that in the United States corporations have taken over the regulatory bodies that make all the regulations for everything. All the pharmaceutical and medical regulations are dictated by pharma companies, insurance companies, and hospital lobbyist groups. All the regulations on manufacturing are dictated by companies like Ford. All the regulations on building and zoning are dictated by big property owners. All the regulations on financial products and services are dictated by Wall Street. These companies just pay lobbyists to write regulations for Congress and they give them the papers and then they just put it into law without reading it. This is not capitalism, nor is it an essential consequence of capitalism. If anything, it's an essential consequence of liberal democracy, because any government with popularly elected leaders who serve very short-terms is naturally going to elect retards and then funnel them directly into the pocket of the wealthy elite.
>>18783347One last effortpost here and then I'm done. I want to clarify that I'm not against undoing regulations that concern worker protections, such as minimum wage, mandatory breaks, child labor laws etc. Corporations want my position to be conflated with people who want to reinstitute child labor and unsafe factory conditions, so you're less inclined to question the system that they have built. But worker protections actually contribute very little to the things that most people hate about the modern economy, And they make our lives better in other obvious ways. And they also don't burden small businesses disproportionately compared to corporations, in fact, it's really the other way around. So labor laws are not part of what I'm talking about. The absolute conflation between all regulations and workers rights has already occurred in this thread. Earlier when you people were arguing about why China is able to produce such cheap watches, and both sides agree that it's because they don't have worker's rights, but you just disagree on whether it's good or not. Guys, it's not because they don't have worker's rights. Having a low minimum wage and low safety standards is not the reason why Chinese factories are able to produce watches so cheap. It's all of the other regulations and red tape they don't have that makes their country a competitive economy that's actually more capitalist than ours. For example, pretty much anybody can build a factory anywhere in China that does anything. There's very little zoning regulations, very little environmental bullshit, and by bullshit I'm talking about laws that say you can't build a building within in 1,000 yd of the nest of an endangered animal. They don't need to hire female minorities to build the building either. You don't need a special license to build a factory. They don't have restrictive intellectual property laws that prevent anyone from doing anything that's similar to what anything else is doing. etc
>>18783352yabba dabba ching ping pong
>>18783340>The unique state of wealth inequality in the USYou mean where even poor people have a smartphone, 3 TVs and new sneakers?
>>18783329It's not capitalism or china, it was absolute retards who decided that opening trade with asia meant FUCKING EVERYTHING GETS MADE IN ASIA NOW and the government never put their foot down and said "guys, it's probably a good idea if we at least make our own Insulin and other critical medical stuff here." If China for whatever reason decided they weren't going to ship us insulin anymore probably hundreds of thousands of people would get sick and die within weeks and it would be our own leadership's fault.
Just do the needful and revoke your site permission for access to this site.
just kys bro you have nothing to lose just do it bro
>>18783363You can't live in a sneaker or eat a smartphone. The abundance of cheap negrotech doesn't mean much if housing, food, education, and healthcare are unaffordable. But you already know that, so what's really the rhetorical argument that you're trying to make? Are you in favor of regulatory capture?
>>18783364Insulin is made in China because regulations prevent upstart American factories from being competitive with them. Repeal the laws requiring a million dollars of licensing costs and bullshit, a million hours of endangered bird inspection, black and female indigenous employees, special certifications, and impossible to acquire zoning permits. Then any random guy with access to a modest amount of capital could create an insulin factory on an abandoned lot in Newark NJ and sell it for 5% of the price that we normally have to pay and still make a fortune. Insulin is mad easy to make and it's not patented. It's really just regulations that prevent a Renaissance of industry from sprouting up all around us.
>>18783392Apparently they're living well enough to buy that bullshit after rent is paid. There are even government programs for phones, literal homeless people can get government phones.
I'm looking for a thin GMT watch under 40mm diameter, preferably titanium but it's not required. What are my options?
>>18783442What's your budget?For example, a Rolex 16570 is a GMT watch under 40mm and it's pretty thin.
>>18783450No it isn't.Any budget.
>>18783453>No it isn't.Isn't what? Thin enough for you? How thin do you want?
>>1878346511mm thick or less, and I guess I have to say also under 39mm because every bitchass manufacturer makes a 39.9999995mm case to win a participation trophy.
>>18783466Would a world-timer or a hometime also do or do you "need" the GMT hand?
>>18783468I want 24 hour time that can also be set for different time zones.
>>18783472Glycine Airman No.1 Purist. 36mm by 11.6mm (but it's also got a box section sapphire, so it's actually quite thin.)
>>18783251I'd rock this
>>18783293Stink lines
>>1878344211.7mm
>>18783442
>>18783506cope n seethe
>>18783508
>>18783506Another stock photo of a watch you recommend but will never in your pathetic lifetime afford.
>>18782922it's zaratsu polished obscure titanium alloys
>>18783289W af
>>18782936i lub the noise
>>18782885you act like it’s just me there’s are thousands of TI’s
Jesus what an ugly shitter. How much did you pay for that? Christ.
>>18782367Very nice anon. Like mine a lot too. Sometimes I wish I got a more interesting dial, but I also quite like the smaller case diameter of these earlier JDM exclusive models. This is 100% my favorite watch to wear at this point, the size is just so good for my wrist, the bracelet fits me perfectly too despite lacking micro adjust, and I like how dependable and accurate the thing always is. Looks good with anything too. >>18782230What do you guys think of the non chronograph seiko speed timer models? Don't have a seiko yet and have been wanting to get one, and those appeal to me quite a bit. Initially the case diameter (39.5mm)was a bit offputting to me, but the lug to lug piqued (44.5mm) my interest. I'm thinking of going for the HBC004 since it has the strap and I know a Seiko bracelet will be loose and drive me nuts. The champagne dial looks quite cool though too and would probably be better for my collection in terms of color diversity.
>>18783558Forgot pic lol
Are there Chinese made versions of Nick Mankey straps? I would buy the real ones but that guy is out of stock polished steel hook/loop versions like 99% of the time
>>18783559>>18782367Nice, very nice.
>>18783544>you act like it’s just me there’s are thousands of TI’sNo, there aren't. It's just you. Those other people are just claiming to be TIs to mess with you. You think you're not alone? You are. Help is not coming.
>>18783631>Laško>UnionPeak kino. Didn't expect to see them in/wt/ today, ngl.
>>18783699>Didn't expect to see them in/wt/ today, ngl.Why not? They're here in literally every thread, without fail.
>>18783707I didn't know Slovenes ruled /wt/ to be honest.
>>18783710Newfag detected.
>>18783710>I didn't know Slovenes ruled /wt/ to be honest.I wouldn't use "rule" so much as I would use "infest". It's like a house with cockroaches: the roaches don't own the house, the owners need to call an exterminator and clean up up the house.
in a thread full of ugly shitters, that is certainly one
Courier brought me a new watch today.
>>18783766That's actually quite an accurate metaphor. Just like you're the mold inside the house and the homeowner just doesn't care and let's it ruin the whole place.
>>18783497This looks really good
Lmao look at all this ugly shit you guys post
>>18783781very nice. how does it wear?
>>18783787can you stop spamming low quality bait?you're not "triggering" anyone, it's just annoying
That's what trigger means, retard. You literally got triggered into reacting to the troll.
>>18783807If only there was some way for us normal users to alert the moderators to other posters breaking the public rules of the site...
People assume a lot here. This thread should be called /jtc/, jumping to conclusions.
>>18783804Very light and comfortable. I have a whole bunch of watches, this one feels heavy in the hand, light on the wrist. I want to do a factory tour at IWC. Booked a hotel to Schaffhausen in January.
>>18783816It absolutely does not look light and comfortable.
>>18783807>>18783808>>18783809Show me a single good watch posted ITT.
>>18783816You will travel in a hotel? Fancy.
What are the best Seikos to buy under $200?
>>18783822There has never been a good watch posted in /wt/. Not once. It's only shitters here.
>>18783836So you’re admitting I was right.
arrived today, had a bit of trouble carrying it up the stairs but once I put it on it's light as a feather funny how that works
NEW THREAD WHEN???!!!WE NEED A NEW THREAD NOW!!!
>>18783859YESNEW BREAD NAOO
>>18783827None. They all have folded steel link bracelets and mineral glass for that price. Buy Chinese.
>>18783699Who the fuck else would have Seiko and Citizen except some Balkan third world shitter?
>>18783822Is this one okay?
>>18783871Nope. Too thick. It's the dress watch of a fat girl in a very small dress. Also,>"Swiss" made.
Just as a quick reminder, people obsessed with thinness in watches have at least once in their life watched, and enjoyed, trans porn.
>>18783879How thick do you think it is?
>>1878389011.5mm. Bloated.There is zero reason a simple no-date dress watch should ever be thicker than 9-9.5mm but somehow Omega figured out a way to do it.
>>18783891Most of the thickness is the high dome on the crystal. The case itself isn't very thick and doesn't wear thick at all.
>>18783892>Most of the thickness is the high dome on the crystalDon't care. Excuses are excuses. It's too thick. It's Omega's fatal flaw. They can't help themselves.
uh oh stinky
>>18783894>not a dress watchNot an unsurprising goof, considering it's coming from an AI's unthinking meat proxy.
>>18783895the oyster and seamaster are equivalently "dress watch" in vintage era. 6565 is ~12mm thick
>>18783896>in vintage era.Moving the goalposts back in time now, I see.>ChatGPT! Help! Help!!!
>>18783871Should have gotten a watch with a moonphase.
>>18783898you were shitting on a picture of a vintage seamaster you retard
>>18783901>The Milano Cortina 2026 Olympic edition Seamaster is vintageI think you need to take break from posting for a little bit.
>>18783893I agree Omega has serious problems with this in the coaxial age, but I'm not going along with the shit talk on the LITERAL ONLY watch they've done in that time with passable dimensions. It's actually shocking they went from the milano cortina seamaster, blown up by a few mils in diameter for modern tastes but still passable as a midcentury watch, to those 40mm hour and minute only observatory reissue shitters.
>>18783911You make some good points, but have you considered.......>O-Megasteel???
Got done servicing the B&M
>>18783977Very sexy and cool that you serviced it yourself. Did you just get a bunch of tools on ebay, watched some videos and got to work?
>>18783986Basically yeah, Eta movements are pretty easy to service, thankfully it just needed a clean, lubricating and assembly, no part part replacing or anything
>>18783993Cool, saw that it's already listed too. Is the cabochon on the crown stone or plastic?
>>18783879>fat girl in a very small dressVery hot.
>>18783994Its glass probably, definitely not plastic, it doesnt scratch with metal
New thread:>>18784011>>18784011>>18784011
bump
Need a real new thread.
>>18784006what would you pair a jacket in this pattern with?>>18784393at least it should be created when the current one hits the bump limit, not like 10 posts before that
yo igor close your window
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>>18784870kek
