>Who is /fat/ for?For caloric catapults working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Previous thread: >>76561291
I’m eating 1000 calories a day and still didn’t break my plateau for a week straight
>>76564256Eat at maintenance for a bit
>>76564258Is that bmr?
>>76564256liar or incompetent
>>76564260No. Maintenance.
>>76564253calorie cucks:>measure every morsel of food>keep a food diary>eat disgusting low-fat foods>go hungry>have awful resultsketo chads:>don't worry about measurements>don't log anything>eat delicious bacon and sausage>never hungry>have best resultsYeah I'm thinking keto is based.
>>76564256how much do you weigh?
Fatty ContestTakatin97.2kg179cmNew fattie, nice thread faggots, made me want to lose weight
>>76564280fuck off shill
>>76564280hello vegan
>>76564280You know the rules, everything is allowed except posting your dogshit body, don't post your best buy looking ass and you won't get mogged by the GRAIN eater. All the other spam is allowed
>he's still at it
>>76564256Eat 1000 calories every other day>>76564258ngmi
>>76564268NTA what is maintenance if it isnt bmr or tdee
>>76564304BMR is not TDEETDEE is maintenance
>>76564281I weigh 200
>>76564312Post food scale with a timestamp. You won't because you don't have one and are just throwing out 1000 calories like a fat middle age white bitch who claims she's gaining weight on 700 calories a day. It would take you 15 seconds to completely btfo me but you won't because you don't even own a food scale
>>76564307Isn't TDEE just an unreliable measurement based on what you think your activity level for the day is? Thats why im scared to guess my tdee and just eat at my bmr
>>76564307shut the fuck up. BMR is maintenance. All this tdee shit is super retarded zoomer cope. fucking pussy
>>76564329TDEE is your total expenditure of the day, its in the fucking name dudeYes it cannot be reliably measured, only approximated with trial, error and some thinking
Should I just fast until my goal weight? I heard it's easy if you do keto for a few days beforehand to kill your hunger
>>76564280ketotard...
>>76564320> Post food scale with a timestamp. You won't because you don't have one and are just throwing out 1000 calories like a fat middle age white bitch who claims she's gaining weight on 700 calories a day. It would take you 15 seconds to completely btfo me but you won't because you don't even own a food scaleNow is the part where you kill yourself right?
That's not a food scale.... Are you using ounces of cooking oil lmfao
I shall drink beer tonight.
>this scale is not a real scalejust let it go
>>76564329If you eat at BMR, you're never going to break through your plateau. The point of eating at maintenance is to make your body believe you're no longer in a state of deprivation so that when you resume your calorie deficit, it will willingly give up its fat stores because it doesn't feel that you've been dieting for so long. You've undergone what is called adaptive thermogenesis, where your body down-regulates your metabolism to compensate for extended periods of dieting. You need to up-regulate it by eating at maintenance.
>>76564355>>76564365you said it yourself, it would take me 15 seconds to btfo you lol
>>76564256That happens to everyone who does CICO eventually. Metabolism lowers until you regain weight.The solution is to do zero carb unlimited calorie.
This is a food scale. It will allow you to eat 1000 calories a day instead of deluding yourself into thinking you are eating 1000 calories a day and stalling for weeks while being obese with a 3k cal tdee. It will help you realize that you are not in fact breaking the laws of thermodynamics
>>76564381You're a biology denier and you don't understand the "laws of thermodynamics". His metabolism lowered because he was restricting calories while eating carbohydrate. It happens to everyone.
>>76564381mechanical scales are more reliable than digitalthis is also literally the same brand
>>76564385>You're a holocaust denierYes I am
i go to swimming pool, everytime i comeback home i see noticeable difference. i will keep swimming till i have chiseled face
so hungry...
CICOlards get so abusive when anyone says calorie counting isn't working for them.CICO is a left wing cult, like vaccines.
>>76564381I’m not obese, I definitely weigh less than you. a weeklong diet plateau doesn’t break the laws of thermodynamics… you’re just repeating buzzwords you heard onlinetell me about the laws of thermodynamics bro I want you to tell me about enthalpy changes and the biomolecular basis of oxidation-reduction reactions without googling it
>>76564388Okay then you need to log off and go into hiding. If what you say is true, every government in the world would be descending on your location with tanks and helicopters in an attempt to capture you, put you in a nuclear proof shelter, set up a metabolic ward and study you. You have the hidden gene to eliminate world hunger. A 200lb fat ass who can maintain 200lbs on 1000 calories a day for 7 days straight, you are the ONE. You are in grave danger, godspeed anon
non fatties get outta muh thread
>>76564396I'm 187lbs but nice try tubby week long "plateaus" don't happen when eating 1000 calories a day to a 125lb sedentary girl let alone some lard such as yourself.
Why are you guys such fags?
>>76564400I'm not him, he's just a lying troll or incredibly incompetentWas just making a statement about you getting baited by him and calling him wrongfully out on his scale
>>76564343If you didn't know you have to put the food on the scale before eating it. Just because you didn't weigh it and record it doesn't mean your body didn't
>>76564400Governments have known for a long time that CICO doesn't work because it lowers metabolism. Just like they knew the covid vaccine doesn't work.Government recommendations are intended to create profits for private corporations, not help anyone.
Anyone else feel like they should eat healthier to compensate for all the unhealthy shit they've put their body through being fat for so long?I feel like just losing weight is not cutting it for me, I'll probably have to eat less red meat, saturated fat in general and maybe less sodium
>>76564430No, you need to eat less carbs. Red meat is good. Fat is good.
Just weighed myself this morning, 285. Started the year at 411. I don’t even remember the last time I weighed this much, high school maybe? Well, point is I feel really good. 1500 calories a day, no cheat days, and just to ensure I’m hitting my mark exactly I pretty much only eat prepackaged food. I DONT recommend this for most people, this is what I do because I’m far too lazy to sit there and do macros on every ingredient, it’s much easier to just throw in a lean cuisine and go “okay this is 280 calories”. A nice trick I learned to enhance food is bacon bits, sounds fattening but they have 30 calories in a teaspoon which is a ton of bits. You can just put a pinch in your slop and it adds a ton of flavor. I get a lot of those microwave rice slop bowls and I usually put a pinch in. I should also mention I don’t exercise at all, I’m extremely sedentary. From my experience when I plateau it means one of three things1.) you aren’t shitting enough 2.) you’re eating too much 3.) you’re weighing yourself at weird times Drink a glass of Metamucil twice a day, it’s a miracle product trust me. Weigh yourself first thing in the morning after you shit and if you slow down don’t panic, just make sure you aren’t overeating before you think it’s over.
>>76564256try one hot dog link and a slice of bread for breakfastone hot dog link and a slice of bread for luncha small sandwich with your choice of insides for dinner (no cheese)try this for 3 days and weigh yourself on the 4th
>>76564430> eat less red meat, saturated fat in general and maybe less sodiumYeah bro get some mRNA pseudovaccine injections too. Follow all government advice it is really good!
>>76564449>1.) you aren’t shitting enoughthis is a big one for me.I have chronic slow bowel movements. No it's not constipation because then it would be hard. My poop just moves too slowly in my intestines and takes too long to exit. My father has the same issue, no idea why.
>work in fast food>I can either eat a regular sized meal for ~1.2k calories (usually potatoes/veggies + meat) or a pie and less meat for ~600-800 calories while feeling more fullthoughts?
>>76564449You would have abs already if you just ate no carbs, unlimited calories.
>>76564456Trusting the government is normal in every white country but the USWhich has pretty bad life expectancy compared to other developed countries
>>76564361I really want a beer right now, but I also don't want to go over my daily intake. Fuck.
>>76564449I think you’re onto something, at least for people who can get to 400 lbs (no offense and well done). It’s a simple numbers game. I do think health gains become addictive though and soon enough you’re going to want to maximize macros/micros and minimize processed foods, it’s just a natural progression. Stick with it bro and we’ll teach you how to make healthy tasty slop from scratch.
>>76564361>>76564503>alcoholeven worse than being obese ngmi
>>76564550Fuckin based alcohol is poison and drinkers are ngmi
>>76564550alcohol is how your ancestors could stand each other enough to keep a family intact
>>76564550>doesn't drinkYou are ngmi. Turbo incel for life lol loser
>>76564555And your "ancestors" used to not brush their teeth. So your point? Dumb fuck
>>76564555my ancestors would have been lynched if they tried to drink alcohol, whitebro
>>76564559>if I get drunk and act like a retard women will suddenly like meincel cope, looks are all that matters, alcohol degrades looks, simple as
for me it's weed
>>76564571Spoken like a true sex non-haver
>>76564566>mudslime>2025
>>76564582If you need to be in a drunken setting to get women you are probably well on your way to a sex offender registry. Not memeing, alcohol is literally for subhumans who think that destroying their inhibitions and acting like a retard might get them a crumb of pussy. Many stories of men ending up in prison this way when the girl decides it was rape the next morning >>76564588Not Muslim, retard, my ancestors were. Credit where it's due, no alcohol is one of the good things in Islam
>>76564571Yeah you have never fucked lol going out and drinking is the absolute easiest way to have sex and frankly almost nobody in your god forsaken zoomer generation has the charisma to put penis in vagina without social lubrication. You are trying to get laid on nightmare difficulty lol
>>76564561
>>76564592> If you need to be in a drunken setting to get women you are probably well on your way to a sex offender registryI have a girlfriend> Not memeing, alcohol is literally for subhumans who think that destroying their inhibitions and acting like a retard might get them a crumb of pussy. You have never been to a party> Many stories of men ending up in prison this way when the girl decides it was rape the next morningSorry still not scared of sex
Anyone using female insults like >IncelWhile simultaneously being obese While simultaneously bragging about having an obese hog girlfriend Is a kike.Simple as.
The plan?Switch from 7.5mg monjaro to 1mg of wegovy, save £200 after price increase.Appetite suppression.Consume Orlo for massive fat intake reduction 30%.Gobble 3 multi vitamins every day to make up for vitamin deficiency from low calories and fat intake reduction.Restrict to 1250 calories a day.I will finally be slim.
>>76564592Alcohol tastes great and is very fun, if you can't keep being a touchy feely creep when drunk then it's not alcohol's fault lmao
you guys please don’t go out and drink with women that is subhuman behavior…be alone and angry like a cultured gentlemanfun is haram
>>76564467I dont have thoughts. Im too stupid on weight loss. I have become profoundly more dumb since trying to lose weight. The only reason I havent been fired is the reputation I built whilst fat for being good at the job. The only reason my tasks are complete is because or muscle memory. Has anyone else experienced this?
You don't go out and party you drink alone on your room, plus your fat. If you are going after bar skanks it says a lot about you, which is irrelevant because you're just larping. I go after the nerdy girl reading a book in the corner alone not the single mom out on a Tuesday at the local dive. Shameful
>>76564378kek I remember being a dumb teenager and buy one of these things to try to weigh out weed
>>76564660My plan:WegovyCan of sardines every 96 hoursConsume salt+potassium and zero sugar energy drinksI will be slim by october
>>76564686I think u might dje
Hi, fatass hereI'm 6ft2" and 280lbs (20stone+ for my fellow bongs) and I'm going for it. I've got a calorie tracker app (didn't have this last time I attempted a diet) and taking it slow by just limiting my calories (calorie deficit they call it?)My main concern is my really bad gyno I've had since puberty, I did go the doctors in my early 20s for a blood test and they said hormones were fine, good luck which is typical NHS, this have of course had a terrible effect on my mental health and anywhere I got I must wear baggy clothing etc. I was wondering should I stay to my calorie deficit and walking daily or do I weight lift now because I've heard for instance doing chest exercise can push the moobs out and make them appear worse?Also I'm fucking shit at cooking so any basic retard proof equipment and tips would be great.st
>>76564686i mean... its probably going to work..
>>76564686you’re never gonna make it and I will mourn you
>>76564696Ur not that much of a fat ass btw. You are very tall.
>>76564660why are you treating it like it's rocket science, just put less food into your mouth fatass
Is rice good for weight loss? Common sense says no but asians are slim af and all they eat is rice. Is it supposed to be satiating?
>>76564696you should be lifting weights and on a calorie deficit >will lifting weights make me look worsefucking NO
>>76564706it's satiating because pure carbs are satiating
>>76564706no rice is for bulking, potato is the king of satiating carbs for cutting. Also asians are infested with parasites due to all the raw fish they eat and the parasites actually consume some of the calories they eat (you probably think I'm joking but look into it)
>>76564706chicken, rice, and vegetables is a great meal
>>76564706No. Carbs are fattening.
>>76564706look up rice dietit works but I wouldn't say its good, rice isn't satiating plus you're going to drop testosterone (lower libido and such will follow)
i havent eaten more than 1100 a day so far this week and worked out twice, once more this upcoming sunday. i really hope i can keep this up and finally escape this skinny fat prison.
>>76564712Yeah, potatoes are the best and they are what i go for (alongside frozen greens) but sometimes i get tired of potatoes. I was looking for alternative satiating carbs that are commonly found in the market
>>76564703Its not rocket science but it is thermodynamics. Years of bad habits, body getting used to certain levels of things. I have eaten less, but the weight loss eating a few hundred calories less most days, undone by having 2 donuts on the weekend.
Take the /fast/ pillEat big like the man you are, and deal with the fact that you dont have food at all times of the dayImagine you're a caveman and 1 or 2 days there wasn't any food, good thing you have some fat reserves that keep you running until your next meal
>still 300kcal left for the dayodds open my second beerevens call it a day
>>76564686>>76564660I'm going to stay on Mounjaro myself.It's been working for me, and I don't wanna rock the boat. Plus I've been lucky with having pretty good results on 5mg and not really any need to change from that.
>>76564756I was upping my dose each month, 5mg is probably fairly affordable post price increase. Its going to be a shame to downgrade but im hoping wegovy still does me well
>>76564760I'm hoping the prices will settle in a couple of months as competition amongst pharmacies and rebates and whatever starts to kick in.But, I'd budgeted that it could go up to £250 a month, and so that's what I'm sticking to.
>>76564706nope its for bulking
>>76564706It's fine. It's calories in calories out. Fit people eat rice. It's like anything don't eat too much
>>76564712>Also asians are infested with parasites due to all the raw fish they eatkek
>>76564651Based
>>76564784Thank you, Sugar Information Inc.
I want us all to make it but I have extra respect for the other people who have lost weight without taking zemp jabs
Same year, still a ways to go but progress none the less. Taking it more than just weight loss, trying to be better with hygiene and grooming too.
>>76564784i hate to do it but I am siding with keto schizo here. If you tolerate white rice in terms of blood sugar and insulin response then you would not be fat in the first place. Unless you are an emotional eating faggot
Quit samefagging lol no more yous
>>76564804weight before and after?
>>76564804aging backwards well donehope you can keep it off
>>76564814272 to 271.3
>>76564804https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJCPxeFp2H8
>>76564808I think this new ketoschizo is just a sock puppet the nunfag OP uses to keep the thread bumped.
>tapering down caffeine for a month>legit feel dead inside besides brief highs after workouts>relapsed and had 4-5 monsters>feel alive againI'm never going to quit this shit huh, at least it's relatively harmless unless the sweeteners are contributing to my inflammation issues or something
>>76564710>pure carbs are satiating
>>76564822They are. Just take caffeine pills. Once I quit the energy drinks and diet sodas I never had bloating issues again. Coffee is bad for your teeth. Water+caffeine pills for pre workout
>>76564822I have had 2 friends who got kidney stones both drank white monsters religiously. It was enough to put me back on coffee
>>76564805Yeah, he's fat because of the one 200 cup of rice, not because he over ate a ton of other foods. It was that rice in particular.
>>76564818Hahaha>>76564814I can see substantial difference when I look at myself>>76564815Thanks anon me too, I had someone at work say I looked years younger recently and that felt nice. I had condemmed myself to a life of ugly oldness so young because of the way things had been going. Starting to feel my age again really
>>76564814Im retarded and dont weigh myself. Last time I was at the doctor I was about 20 stone and that was a few months before the before
>>76564822Try not to have too many of the highly acidic ones, it can fuck your tummy up pretty bad.Avoid too much phosphoric acid if it's on the ingredients list. It's okay once in a while.
>>76564829It's not just about the caffeine, the drinks themselves help me feel full when I'm not eating much. Yeah my teeth are probably gonna rot one day, but getting cosmetic dentistry to fix them is easier than losing weight>>76564830Eh, been drinking them for a long time and I've never had any kidney stones symptoms
>>76564832no he is fat because he is prone to that blood sugar roller coaster that has him feeling like he is starving every 2 hours, which eating a bunch of white rice or anything high on the glycemic index would contribute toward. Don't take cico too far fag. Just because thermodynamics says you could eat candy and lose weight doesn't imply that its not a ridiculous and retarded thing to do
>>76564848I'm going to ask you this question and I want you to answer it instead of pivoting. Do you think people eat large amounts of white rice by itself with nothing else?
>>76564854I do.I am the rice eater.
>>76564854no I don'tdo you think having some ground beef and veggies in the rice is going to massively change the blood sugar response?
>>76564608Retvrn to lead pipinq western man
>>76564876Yes, because that's exactly how it works. Adding protein or fat and protein and fat to carbohydrates substantially reduces the glycemic response. I'm going to end this conversation because you clearly have absolutely zero idea what you're talking about.
>>76564884>its okay I ate that candy bar because I had some carrots right after bro
>>76564854I have eaten a whole 100grams of rice in one sitting. measured before cooking which is a decent portion it is satiating sometimes.
protein bars and meat gives me the shits and the after taste and smell of eggs make me nauseoushow am i supposed to get enough protein like this
>>76564891protein powder and greek yogurt
>>76564854I have done this
>>76564686ChatGPT approves my plan. I'm gonna post an update October 1st
>>76564845>getting cosmetic dentistry to fix them is easier than losing weightIt's like 40k to 90k to fix your teeth if they need to all be pulled. Ask me how I know
>>76564854I have never eaten plain rice because I don't cook rice. However I have pigged out on plain oats. I'd imagine I could eat a lot of rice.Grains are fattening. That's why they fatten cattle with grains.
>>76564900This does 2 things to me.It makes me feel like a dumbasss for consulting chat gpt on health conditionsAnd it makes me ponder how fucking hard you pounded it into your chat that its purely theoritical weight loss and not about health or reality.I try to remind mine to be objective or harsh, and it usually does offer critique ... But man come on
>>76564686>I will be slim by octoberI have no idea how much you weigh (I'm guessing overweight if not nearing obesity since you got semaglutide) but you need to be careful with extended fasting like that. If you don't do enough exercise (some light cardio and resistance training) you'll lose muscle.
>>76564930Mine refused to tell me how to land a plane in Microsoft Flight Sim because I might use that information in reality.
>>76564932Don't worry in about 3-4 hours he's going to be eating a family sized bag of lays, people who make retarded plans like that are just into instant gratification and cheap dopamine they get by typing out "le perfect plan" Absolutely no shit he executes it he'll be back tomorrow with a new master plan/meme diet
>>76564932I'm 166lbs and want to reach abs range again (135-ish). No, I got semaglutide through devilish means
>>76564945I remember back in high school I built a random diet of the same shit to eat everyday which I am not sure how I didn't get bored of but it contained a decent amount of vitamins that I felt supplemented me for the day.Anyway I lost a good chunk of weight and twinkmoded and got lots of girls numbers.
>>76564949My provider asked for a photo and permission to contact my doctor. I feel like I could have faked both easily. Is that what you did?
>>76564919They fatten cattle with grains because they are an unnatural food for cattle and interfere with their natural metabolism. Cattle mainly subsist on cellulose rich, extremely high fiber, butyrate producing leafy substrate with virtually no carbohydrate. Replacing their natural Butyrate producing diet with one that does not produce butyrate and instead directly digests will, of course, make them fattier, which is the goal. Your example is species specific, false, and does not directly transfer to humans.
>>76564949>wanting to be 135 poundsjesus christ just be my girlfriend
this sucks
another day another 10kwagmi
>>76564968Humans do get fat from carbs, though.
>>76564949I would cut off the semaglutide and go into an extremely high protein low calorie diet after you lose 20 poundsif not you'll be risking muscle, under 15%ish bf you run a higher risk of muscle loss during extended fasts
>>76564973As they get fat from all kinds of food. Please engage honestly and avoid appealimg to memes if you wish for true discourse
>>76564960Too poor for that, I import the raw powder from China>>76564969I'm 5'8
>>76564949Oof manlet stats?
>>76564463Seriously start taking Metamucil, I had the same exact issue. The vast majority of obese people don’t get enough fiber in their diets. Now I SUPPOSE you could get your daily value of fiber by eating 5 servings of vegetables, but I hate veggies and the smell of cooked broccoli makes me gag so this is just much easier for me.
>>76564973Looks like livestock to me.
>>76564987Don't do this. Just buy pure Psyllium husk. Metamucil literally has more sugar in it than it has fiber. I know that sounds unbelievable, but it's true. Look it up.
>>76564994I get the sugar free Metamucil
>>76564982Humans only get fat from carbs.Unlimited calorie low-carb diets are slimming.
>>76565000That's fair, but you didn't say sugar-free, so I was just trying to inform him in case, you know, he went out and just bought it.
>>76565002Unlimited calories cant be true anon. Significant calorie sure.If you don't eat processed meat you can eat loads before you get full. And it will be low calorie but not infinite. Also expensive
>>76564983im 6'0 235 ill take care of u sweet cheeks
>>76565012Unlimited calories. I tried it myself. Unlimited calorie low-carb cures obesity and maintains leanness long term.
>>76564548I just knew I had to do something, I realized the trajectory I was on I’d be on 600 pound life in a couple of years. The easiest weight loss was honestly just from when I stopped drinking, that alone must have been 30 pounds. It’s stupid too because I don’t miss drinking at all, just a total waste of money. At this point my only addiction is diet soda, I can’t live without it. I’m sure I’m forming aspartame crystals in my ballsack but holy shit would I feel miserable without something fizzy to drink.
>Finally reach goal weight>Love handles shrink significantly but develop weird and obvious lower back holes at same timeNew goal weight it is
>>76565012your body self selects for a lower caloric intake naturally on keto since protein and fats are much more filling than carbsAlso helps that you basically can't eat out fucking anywhere so your only options are to cook shit yourself. You'll find yourself naturally in a deficit on keto, until eventually you get skinny enough and your hunger increases.Also, CICO is retarded because protein calories are not calories. I'm not joking. Your body will shit or piss out any excess protein (when carbs or fat is available) instead of digesting it.
>>76565018>4 pounds in 6 months That’s just absurd, you can lose more than that just from fasting for a couple days. Something about this study doesn’t seem right.
>>76565025>eventuallyalso keyword here, it takes forever. Unless you're seriously overweight you'll get slow results without fasting / calorie counting. But it's easy to maintain.
another day another retard arguing with the keto scihzo
First day of the gym (had previous exp but whatevs) and after the body analysis machine the gym instructor tells me that my “metabolism age” is 41. I’m 28. Am i just cooked? He didn’t seem concerned but i felt horrible after hearing that
>>76565037its okay, unlike real age, metabolic age is a madeup number and can be adjusted with lifestyle
>>76565037Sounds like some pseudo juju bullshit, just stick to your regiment and you’ll be fine.
>>76565026The group averages include people who don't follow the diet.It is notable that unlimited calorie low-carb is a better slimming diet than restricted calorie low-fat.
When rheta comes to the uk will it make monjaro and wegovy really cheap?
>>76564987>>76564994Metamucil just adds bulk. Fiber doesn't makes your poop move faster in my case, it's more so an issue with the intestines unable to signal waves that there is shit there so get it out.
>>76565022You need to lift. And not like, go to the gym. You need to lift like Dorian Yates. Unbelievable intensity. You can't diet your way out of love handles and the skinny fat gut. You need muscle mass. You need to train like a bodybuilder to reach brad pitt fight club level. You'll have to get way stronger than you thought possible just to acquire a human like shape. This is a harsh truth most will object to but it's still a truth
>>76565053hard pass, i want to look fit, not like i take roids. i have also already began lifting and put on some muscle, at least on my arms
>>76565062You will never look like you take roids LMFAO. To look fit you will have to lift ungodly amounts of weight. I can deadlift 535, bench 300lbs, do weighted pull ups with 160lbs, jm press 2 plates in the smith machine and all that just to look like an in shape guy who plays sports. It's the reality of natural lifting
>>76565073>I can deadlift 535good bait, you had me at first
>>76565075I mean I can, it's the easiest lift for tall guys with long arms. Good luck regardless but I'm speaking from experience
>>76565079post physique w/ time stamp
>>76565081Why? You aren't going to listen to what I say anyways you're delusional enough to think natural lifters can get "too big" I legitimately hit all those numbers and just look like an in shape guy who plays sports, nothing special in clothes. You already made up your mind. I've posted body all the time here
>>76565091because im not taking advice from some guy whos lying out of his ass about his lifts
>>76565091It's because you're in the /fat/ thread larping so you even looking like you're in shape is probably a lie
>>76565081nta but can you guys stfu with this. not going to post my body every time some retard disagrees with me. furthermore there are absolute retards who are shredded and don't know shit
>>76565108unless u post physique im just going to assume ur a larping obese anon especially when youre claiming something as insane as being able to deadlift 500+ lbs
Im 225 @ 28 percent bf lmao is 145 grams of protein enough? Shits kind of expensive
>>76565103Okay so if I post body with timestamp will you reciprocate? Everytime I give good advice some retard anon shits all over me and challenges me to post body then accuses me of being an attention whore.535lb conventional deadlift (with straps obviously) You have to fuckin attack the weights as a natural. In a t shirt I just look in shape. I do not look like I'm on steroids. If you want a beach body you have to lift fuckin way heavier than you might think. If my level of muscularity is "too much" than I have great news, you can scale back the training to 1-2 full body lifts a week as long as load is maintained you won't grow or shrink and you can maintain into old age
>>76565108Nta but when I make a statement I always post body. Im the brown Indian with the cancer on his upper back
>>76565121Shit anon got vtfo
>>76565118>Im 225 @ 28 percent bf lmao is 145 grams of protein enough? Shits kind of expensiveTbh I want to say 116grams is enough if you subtract the fat. But I've been eating at least 1gram per lean mass but I want to lower it too because it is expensive
>>76565121Just get a trip then, how the fuck is anyone supposed to know who you are everytime you post dumbassNatural response to any guy talking big on 4chan is to doubt Mirin though
>>76565026its partially not his fault, the abstract summery of these articles are very deceptive.if he actually read into the body of the article (he doesnt) it usually has the low carb group eating a calorie deficit greater than the "low calorie" groupthis confuses him because he cant figure out why the abstract would be dishonest. the idea that medical journals would resort to clickbait is beyond his ability to understand.
will you always have loose skin when losing weight? IS there a way to lose it without loose skin?
>>76565137Yeah man fuck, when my diet is ass I still get strong I think I'm okay.Also bro I'm gonna buy tvp because of its cost.Am I heeming myself?
>>76565140>will you always have loose skin when losing weight?Nope, most people don't.> IS there a way to lose it without loose skin?Yeah. Lose weight. Be young. Exercise a bit. Don't nuke your nutrients.
>>76565145>Also bro I'm gonna buy tvp because of its cost.>Am I heeming myself?honestly never heard of using it. I think it is complete so why not
>>76565151How though? I mean whats the safest way to do it. And what if you cant exercise
here's my diet for today>whole milk + protein shake - 300 calories, 32g protein>one BL/SL chicken thigh + 2 eggs - 350 calories, 42g protein>one can of tuna in water - 110 calories, 23g protein>two BL/SL chicken thighs - 400 calories, 58g protein>a few small pineapple chunks - 50 calories~1200 calories total
>>76565138How about you develop a functioning pre frontal cortex that is capable of taking in good information and filtering out bad information. I only had to hear it once, stronger muscle=bigger muscle. And I only had to look at one natural body building show to realize it's impossible to get "top big" naturally
>>76565140The damage is done, how you loose it now won't change it. It'll tighten up some on its own, and filling it out with muscle can help it look a little better, but the only surefire solution is surgery.
>>76565140Loose skin is a misnomerThere is excess skin, which forms when your skin stretches too much and is forced to grow new skin tissue because your skin can't hold all the fatExcess skin is healthy skin tissue that the body will never get rid of naturally, it makes no sense for itSome people don't have much loose skin because they didnt get much excess skin either because they werent fat enough or their skin was elastic enough to accommodate the fat
>>76565158>>whole milk + protein shake - 300 calories, 32g protein>>one BL/SL chicken thigh + 2 eggs - 350 calories, 42g protein>>one can of tuna in water - 110 calories, 23g protein>>two BL/SL chicken thighs - 400 calories, 58g protein>>a few small pineapple chunks - 50 caloriesWHERE I S UR CARBSSSSS
>>76565159I'm not the guy asking about getting too big, and I agree with what you said but when started talking about doing big lifts and how in shape you are its simply normal to doubt on 4chan especially in a /fat/ thread
>>76565121what exactly should i reciprocate? 99% of anons who boast about their fitness are usually larping so idk why youre upset abt ppl asking for proof that you are being honest. and i stated earlier very clearly that i would want a normal fit physique not something that looks like its achieved from roid usage which you seem to not shy away from. idk what sort of logic goes in ur head to treat a fat loss thread like a body builder thread.
>>76565140yes/no if you do extreme cardio for 2 hours a day you can probably tighten the fat in your body, you'll get rid of the droopy fat which will put less stress on your skinif you already sag to a significant degree though you're kinda screwed.
>>76565180>if you do extreme cardio for 2 hours a day you can probably tighten the fat in your body, you'll get rid of the droopy fat which will put less stress on your skinOOFU CAN BE A TIGHT TWINK THEN?
>>76565139The low-carb group in these studies are given a diet with unlimited calories. The low-fat groups are given a calorie restriction.Therefore unlimited calorie vs. restricted calorie.Unlimited calorie low-carb works better because fat and protein are slimming foods. No need to count or restrict or go hungry when you are not eating carbs.
>>76565140If you do carnivore you can lose weight without loose skin. Pic related.
>people keep telling me i look great now>still a flabby chubby 200+ manletI don't get it.
>>76565199they want you to stop
>>76565165Conclusion:The original statement correctly identifies that what we call "loose skin" is indeed "excess skin" that the body cannot eliminate on its own. It also correctly identifies the main reasons why some people have less of it (less weight loss, better genetics).However, its description of the biological process is flawed. The skin doesn't simply "grow new tissue" in a healthy way; it undergoes structural damage and expansion under prolonged mechanical stress. The resulting skin is not "healthy tissue" but rather a damaged, overstretched structure that has lost its fundamental integrity.Therefore, while the practical observation is useful, the physiological explanation is an oversimplification.
>>76565121Fake and gay faggot
>>76565199Imagine how bad you looked before.
>>76565199theyre proud of you, keep going
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>>76565193i dunno what any of that means in your pic
>>76565193If I... become an Animal?
>be overweight since childhood>lose weight in late 20s>find out fat cells will stay with you>it's easy as fuck to regain the weight I've lost nowI will never win. I am permanently hungry even though I've lost 100 pounds. The weight will return to most of us if you were overweight as a child. Unless we hop on GLP-1, sadly I'm not American so it's basically impossible for me, the weight is incredibly fucking hard to keep off and I feel like I'm starving even though I eat maintenance and some days even a surplus, I lift weights too now. The real struggle starts at maintenance anons, this is an endless battle you will have to endure for the rest of your life. Fuck this garbage life I felt much happier when I was fat, I don't think I can keep this up for long and I doubt I will even care in a year from now.
>>76565217The woman on the left in the pic lost a large amount of weight without loose skin because she was doing unlimited calorie carnivore.The man on the right in the pic lost a small amount of weight and ended up with loose skin because he ate carbs while restricting calories.>>76565219Humans are carnivores. That's why dogs and cats are our friends. We ate the same food.
Ohhhhh myyyyy fuckking goood. I knew I fucking knew there wouldnt be one simple answer. Fucking 100 different people telling you different things while denouncing others and schizos yelling about some HIDDEN LIFE-HACK METHOD WORKS %100. I can see why people don't bother with weight loss.
>>76565223is there a source on fat cells "staying with you" or is this just midwit-tier demoralization
>>76565238>I knew I fucking knew there wouldnt be one simple answereat lessyou shouldn't need a general to tell you that either
>>76565238this is a demoralization and cope thread
>>76565240Do one google search and you will find your answer, main reason why so many people regain part or most of their weight after losing it
>>76565242I fucking get that dude. But what's the point if you gonna have loose skin
>>76565247>go into the echo chamber and ask a loaded question and you'll be surprised by the resultsthink harder, try harder, be better
>>76565251>But what's the point if you gonna have loose skinthere are worse things than loose skin that come from being fat
>>76565199It is normalized in western countries to be a little chubby and have some face fat and a little belly, if you are anything below that you are usually thought to be great looking/thin, only social media doesn't think this way but people irl do
>start eating better and going to the gym>desire to bite my fingernails disappearscool i guess
>>76565257man i hope this happens to me too
>>76565252sure mate find out yourself once you are at a healthy weight, i am constantly feeling like shit every fucking day, i get more than enough protein, fiber, fats, carbs, everything is clean and I eat some snacks too, everything around maintenance, your body still thinks you're a fatty because it's so used to that for years and years, even if you are not, I don't know how long it stays like this, I am trying to maintain for like 2 months now, this is the most challenging part of my life ever. dieting is nothing compared to this
>>76565251you just get it removed with surgery…
>>76565278I live in Canada and I've been thinking that once I lose all my fat I want to get my skin removedBut obviously that would never get covered by public insurance ( even though it should)So I'm thinking I'll just grab as much skin as I can off my belly and use a huge cleaver to chop it off, close to the emergency hospitalNo way I'm gonna die from that and they can just stitch me together for free
>>76565251NHS covers it, dont worry
>>76565297not the worst plan ever
>>76565262Make an effort to cut your nails with clippers. Pretty much from the time my mom stopped cutting my nails for me to my mid twenties, I exlusively chewed my nails. I'd chew it off in one piece and leave it in my mouth, playing with it, using my tongue to shove it up into my gums until they bled. I still can't believe I've broken that habit and stuck with it. It felt core to my existence, I can only imagine how much worse my teeth would be if I still did. Just cut your nails so short that they aren't chewable. Be self concious of how your hands look, like when exchanging money at the store. Take pride in having neatly trimmed nails, ideally on calloused hands with just a little fresh dirt under them.
>>76565297you just need to give yourself sores for it to be "medically necessary">If you have undergone significant weight loss and have excess skin in your lower abdomen that is causing discomfort and interfering with daily activities, you may be a suitable candidate for panniculectomy surgery. To be considered, you should be in good health and have maintained a stable weight for at least six months. In addition, if you are experiencing medical symptoms such as irritation, chafing, rashes, open sores, or infections due to your excess skin, panniculectomy may be an option for you.
how do I make this not taste like shit
>>76565312People with cancer get life-saving service delayed here for years and end up dyingI don't have much hope for normal procedures
>>76565179>normal fit physique not something that looks like its achieved from roid usage which you seem to not shy away from.That's what I have, a normal fit physique. It's 18 months of lifting. You can lift for 100 years in a row but if you don't push the weights hard and progressively you will not get that "fit" look which is just a v taper. I don't look like a roid monkey I look like a soccer player>>76565238Calorie deficit. That's it. That's the tweet
>>76565322lemon juice black pepper
>>76564712the raw fish parasites are fish parasites.. they cannot survive in the human body. at worst they will get you a tummy ache for a few days.the worms that stay in your body forever, reach several meters long, multiplicate and eventually migrate into the brain are from eating pork.
>>76565322Blend with cottage cheese
>>76565322eat with saltine unsalted crackersadd salt/pepper to your liking and lemon/lime too
>>76565322you can also add mayo and make a tuna sandwichsome people add a slice of cheese too if that fits
What do you estimate the calorie count be for this lunch
>>76565344Look how fat those hands are lmao
>>76565344>Anonymous 08/29/25(Fri)17:43:14 No.76565342▶unless this guy is a buff bodybuilder and works out 2 hours a day with cardio, that is a shit ton of food.
>>76565322dice tomato and pickle, mix in, scoop and eat with crackers
>>76565322Grow up
>>76565347urs arent any slimmer
>>76565322Just be careful eating too much Tuna, anon. Bioaccumulation of mercury in large fish is a real thing.
>>76565344tfw no gf
>>76565344That woman is fat as fuck look at her hands and pause at 0:26NO point in having a wife if she is fat as fuck because her meals will just make you a lardass. I estimate that all of this is about 2300 calories.Insane unless this is all he eats and physically active.
>>76565357Did I strike a never, toasty roastie?Trump needs to use the military to inject American women with ozempig, MakeAmerican Women FuckableAgainAmericas diner Denny's is winning the war against the white race rn
Thanks to the gentlemen last thread who clarified the fattycontest thing for me, i'm not sure i'll participate in light of it overwriting your entries if you log every day. If it at least averaged them or automatically retained your lowest weight it would be a different matter.im considering taking out my apple health and just posting my lowest weekly weight every friday morning or whatever but i don't want to inadvertantly 'cheat' or step on anyones toes who are in it and doing it the 'proper' way.
>>76565402just pick a day of the week and use that weight you moron
>>76565402you sound autistic as hell. I would probably push u up against a wall and smooch you because you take things too seriouslybut this of course would be for both of our benefits, as we can lose up to 2 calories per minute of making out
>>76565344These videos have a soft pleasant sort of cringe to them. The way they're called stuff like "so tired but making lunch for overworked bf #survivalmeal"It's like half complaining about being working class, half subtle baiting other women saying they're too lazy to take care of their man.
>>76565377>feminine pasty hands Thanks for the laugh anon
>every nutrition fact sheet ever measures chicken thighs about 120g>weigh the uncooked ones I have in the fridge>they're 200g eachseriously?
>go from 260 to 200>mother tells me not to overdo it or i might turn anorexicIs this crab mentality?
>>76565475How fat is she?
>>76565377clean your fingernails nigga
>>76565476She is actually very lean so the comment baffled me even more
>>76565456I wish they were feminine >>76565477No
>>76565410well exactly but how cool would it be to have it plot an even more detailed diagram of your progress, i don't see why some of you are so staunchly against it lol, it takes literally 9 seconds to weigh yourself after your morning pee every day.>>76565414>you sound autistic as hellwheredoyouthinkweare.pngand uhm.. eh.. not even engaging with whatever else in that post..
>>76565467what's the problem here exactly, anon? did you fail highschool algebra?
>>76565486Bitch they are feminine, callouses don’t change that
>>76565492do you have any idea how small a 120g chicken thigh iswhere the fuck would you even find one? whats the point in nutrition info if it's completely inaccurate
>>76565495Try eating lean meat not fatty cuts. Or stop bitching
>>76565488>and uhm.. eh.. not even engaging with whatever else in that post..the way you responded is autistic as hell too. I am curious what your body looks like
>>76565498>chicken thighs>fattyretard
>>76565495anon....... you take the 120g nutritional information, divide it by 120, that will give you how many calories, etc, is in 1 gram of chicken thigh, then you just times by 200 to get the number for your chicken thighs (I guess this isn't counting bones or anything)
>>76565485she just wants you to stay below her anon.
>>76565505>A 3.5-oz serving of skinless chicken thigh contains about 179 calories, with fat making up 45% of those caloriesNice, half the calories from fat real lean. Pic rel is a lean meat
Why eat candy when humans have been breeding fruit for thousands of years for it to taste like candy?
>>76565523Idk any fruit that tastes like gummy worms
>>76565523i should dry dates and figs, I've seen the greekmaxxed diet memes, but has anyone ever tried to make a middle eastern maxxed diet?
>>76565523candy is lower calorie and fuels my blood sugar faster
>>76565475>Is this crab mentality?guilt for making you a fatty
>>76565516
>>76565554So it's leaner than the fattest cut of meat imaginable? Fat dumb and stupid is no way to go through life son. Salmon is legendary as a healthy fat source not a protein source. So yes, chicken thighs are a great source of fat. There are plenty of lean cuts of meat with exponentially more protein and less fat calories, maybe check those out, pro tip
>>76565531Just try them and eat them if you like them. Don't look for retarded diets
>>76565562>>>fattest cut of meat imaginableyou're a retardthe bioavailability of extremely lean meat like chicken breast is minisculealmost every single cut of meat on earth has at least 50% of its calories from fat
>>76565344tfw you will never have this
>this 10 percent fat by weight cut of meat has fatWow, intriguing. You can, gasp, drain the fat. Or eat tuna, or tenderloins or white fish or whey or yadda yadda. >Chicken thighs are le leanOkay....
>>76565495that's about the size of the boneless, skinless chicken thighs i get here. they come in a package of 4 that weight about 400g.
Do the average calories for a chicken thigh include the bone or not? This may be a retarded question but I am curious.
>>76565592no because you don't eat the bone, the calories only change if you include the skin or not
>>76565592no it counts the chicken only.it would count hte skin if it notes i
>>76549032 (Me)burrito time, been waiting all week for this
Ask yourself how badly you want to lose this weightif your meals don't look like this, you answered wrong
>>76565626Jesus Christ anon use two different plates, that’s vile.
>>76565626what teh fuck even is that?
>>76565626Just ate 10 chicken wings covered in hot sauce. God, I love keto.
>>76565626thats a decent weight loss meal
>>76565571Wrong
>>76565651I'll be laughing when all your hair falls out
I get to OMAD a big ass pork quesadilla tomorrow, I’m gonna have wet dreams tonight just thinking abt it, > u <
>>76565635you have never seen scrambled eggs or canned tuna?
>>76565626Alternatively your meals could look like this.As long as it is low or zero carb you can be pretty creative with food.
>>76565819what are the "buns" made out of here?potato?
>>76565819wow that looks goodI need to find my wafflemaker
>>76564256I plateaued for almost a month then lost 3kg in a week
>>76565819why would you post this
>>76565251lose skin is genetics bro. You can stretch a rubber band and have it go back to normal and you can stretch a shirt and have it stay baggy forever. If your skin is elastic you won't get loose skin and you're not gonna know if it is or isn't until you lose weight
>>76565821Eggs in waffle iron.
>losing weight journey >start lifting again, doing awesome>Lose a few kilograms easily, mostly water im guessing.>Fall for the creatine meme>After two weeks, lifts improve considerably but scale is back where it started >Le water retentionGod fucking dammit
>buy better fitting clothes>more people say good morning at workhmm
What are you doing to improve your life besides losing weight
reading books and lazily learning spanish
>>76565939Creatine is only worth it if you’re shredded.
I ate chicken breast meatballs instead of gorging on McDonald's. WAGMI
>>76565945This is true. I wore my xls and one day threw them out and got all mediums then at work people literally stared with mouths open and yapped all day about it. It was like I got in shape overnight kek>>76565949Retard
>>76565949I do feel bigger, people have told me I look more muscular so there's that.As much as I hate for the scale to go up again, the boost it gives me at the gym is worth it, and since I'm cutting cals by quite a lot. I'll take anything to make the gym less of a miserable slog.
>>76565947not enough
>>76565969It just gets easier and easier the more you do it. The hardest part is not hating yourself after you realize 100 percent of your problems were fixable all along and it wasn't actually that hard
>>76565972For me there's like a mental block that I have to keep chipping away at. My life is still unrecognizable from a year ago so I guess I'm making some progress at least.
>>76564891Try cottage cheese anon, its pretty good on its own or you can add your favorite seasonings and / or use it as a dip
Chicken breast meatballs and push-ups until the girl I stalked falls for me.
>>76566079Stalked?
>>76566081Pretty much.Think I crossed that line when I showed up to her house uninvited.
>>76566083anon.. o_O
>>76566085I think getting a second phone number to call her after she blocked me counts too.
>>76565821Egg and mozarella cheese. Called 'chaffles' if you want the recipe. Also if you put some shredded cheese on the bottom and top of the egg+cheese mixture you get a delicious crispy crust. The dash mini waffle irons are the perfect size and shape.Makes a great breakfast sandwich, too. Pic related.
dieting has made me realize it's kinda nuts just how much food your body needs, and at the same time how little you can survive off of
my stomach hurts
>>76566170same here desu
https://youtu.be/dTZQ2IB_x7c?si=4wH0igIyEBXU-I0vWatching House, and I felt this song.
>>76566202>>76566202
>>76565257Finger nail biting desire can be triggered by mineral deficiencies. Sounds weird I know, but it's true.
>>76565342You will always be a fatty
>>76565516I still don‘t get why americans don‘t list nutrition per 100g instead of some stupid arbitrary serving size
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>>76565312>>76565328>>76565297They'll just offer MAID
Fatty ContestKenlo Borther238.7lbsOfficially over 60lbs lost since covid.
How do you guys regain the motivation for the gym?> Go for a year> Move from 10kg dumbbells to 20kg> Don't go for a month> Can only lift 10kg againThis shit is ruining my mental