Remember when bodybuilding had legends? Rich Piana, Greg Plitt, Zyzz... guys who actually lived the lifestyle. Now YouTube is full of AI bots, skinny posers flexing in gyms, drama channels, and science nerds lecturing like it's a college class. The sport is dead for anyone who grew up with real motivation.Made a short on this: https://youtube.com/shorts/P-fktXC2JwA?si=c5MzMepRFn26qNjCWatch if you miss the raw energy and want to see the truth about bodybuilding now.
I was there and I aggree we had much less drama and more motivational stuff.But also internet was full of bullshit advice and myths.
>>76574907greg plitt was cool, wish he didn't die desu
>>76574907Ronnie Coleman is cool
>>76574907 we have tren twins and sam sulek now
>>76574970but ppl actually tried things and did shitnow you have autists here spewing dissertations about optimized methods and chatgpt garbage when they've never even lifted a single thing except for their computer mouse.almost worse than rddit now
>>76575056i actually like to watch them both>tren twins2 retards retardmaxxing, it's just funny and entertaining to watch>sam sulekchill guy, kind of a friendship simulator when you put him on while cooking or eating
>>76574907>lived the lifestyleWhich was? A fucking joke that's what. Unless you're someone like Arnold who made a career off of it, it's not a fucking lifestyle. Ffs bro, it's not that deep, and everything you like about BB is still there. You spend too much time online. STFU and stop talking about problems that only exist in social media.>>76575141Post body, guarantee them autists look better than you. So, what's your fucking point.>waaaahhh things changeThe more they change the more they stay the same.
>>76575197>You spend too much time onlinehe probably has a six figure wfh job........aint nothing wrong with spending time online if it makes you money.
>>76575203I'm OP. I make about 60 grand a year. I'm trying to make money online with my content of course or reach an audience. But I genuinely enjoy making content about stuff that I care about. I'd like to be able to bring back the late 2000s early to mid 2010s type content you know the redpill stuff, manosphere, guys like Victor Pride and Greg Plitt so forth. But I'm really just a normal guy who was in his 20s during that era. Appreciate the kind comments from people supporting me like yourself and the other guys here with nostalgia. I don't mind Sam Sulek or the Tren Twins but they aren't like back in my day. Hell who here even remembers Scooby anymore lol? Or the new years comics every year. It's all like incel blackpill stuff and esoteric fascism stuff and politics and race baiting so forth now here I find. And fitness online is just degeneracy now. It sort of always was but c'mon Zyzz at least had a positive message he wasn't always some rich daddy's boy who got every woman he wanted then just hopped on cycle for a cash grab. By today's standards he got a shit physique for online fitness which is wild to me. I mean you could Rich Piana started the open steroid promoting type stuff but he wasn't dismissive of the risks. And it wasn't about being a freak to impress people it was because you wanted to leave humanity behind.
>>76575258just make some ai shit and make money off that shit
>>76575258Zyzz would probably be in the redpill alpha male grifter sphere/twitch kick streamer sphere nowadays like that togi guy
When I think of Zyzz, I picture him stood in his closet jerking his shrivelled cock to a semi-flaccid state just before shoving it into his overpriced, designer briefs to give the illusion of having a large penis. All this before one of his sycophantic "aesthetic" buddies takes a series of silly ass, staged photographs to be posted all over the internet for the millionth time.I picture him parading around some awful, pretentious nightclub with his shirt off, desperate for attention. Desperate. And for every 7/10 generic drunken slut that stopped to get her photo taken with him, there were a million self-conscious, confused and insecure thoughts going on in that junkie brain of his. He couldn't just go out and have a good time like the rest of us. For him, it was a performance. But he was no star. Far from it. Just another insecure poser. A man of no substance. A pouting, preening, empty vessel. A total fake.I picture him getting his spray tans and waxing his shrunken balls in front of his bathroom mirror. I see him whitening his teeth, straightening his hair, applying guy-liner. I imagine the life consuming daily rituals that he must have gone through just to maintain some stupid image that was only respected on internet forums frequented by out and out losers." Sad, man.Those who kneel at his altar will say it was fitting that he died young. Forever young like James Dean or some stupid **** like that. The fact is that in his final moments on this Earth, showing off was the last thing on Aziz Sergeyevich Shavershian's mind. He was craving attention of a different kind as his roid weakened heart pumped out its last few beats. He cried out for help. But no one came. And so he passed away, in the tranquil, dignified surroundings of a Bangkok brothel. I wonder how much he valued his physique and fake appearance in those final moments. I wonder if he regretted the narcissistic self-parody he had become. Was it all worth it, Zyzz?
>>76575197>them autistslmfao trying to act like a nigger now? what the fuck are you even saying?
>>76575266I thought about it a lot before but it wouldn't be me.>>76575273That is certainly possible. Most of those OGs didn't stick around much or faded into irrelevance. Most of the PUA systems and stuff were bullshit and faked. Still had fake natties. Still had degens. But now it's like everyone wants to be a degen to get their 15 mins of fame.What do most young guys want to be nowadays?Soundcloud rappers, fitness influencers, or talking heads like Andrew Tate with too much money.And women well their equivalent is OnlyFans and Instagram.So we got young guys who wanna be drug addicted depressed losers with too much money and women who wanna be famous prostitutes.It blows a lot of 30+ year old people's minds in general. I was talking to a female friend about it today really unreal how things changed post 2000s
>>76575475shift I think accelerated in 2017, then 2020 overdrive
>>76575475>I thought about it a lot before but it wouldn't be me.go do it. also make fitness content for indians. fittest bollywood actors
>>76575514The fake globalist pandemic reset plus in 2017 by then a lot of the legends had sadly passed or moved on. And also in 2017 we saw a lot of underground SoundCloud rappers explode. During covid tiktok and social media usage went through the roof too. I remember using tinder ten years ago yea women were about hook ups then too but they don't even want to form bonds anymore it's ass me to snapchat so I can show you my pussy.>>76575532I'm not a fan of Indian culture or the online and offline culture shift catering to it. I like shitting inside and wiping with toilet paper not my hand.
>>76574907>Watch this>AI slopkys OP, you tremendous faggot.
>>76575596I have a very thick east coast Canadian accent a lot of viewers don't understand what I'm saying. So I used an AI text to speech that generated captions. It's a tool like a calculator. If you actually put work in what you're doing AI is useful. If you just don't even think of anything original and just use AI to make clique sigma male videos it's slop. I just wanted my message to be clear and organized. It's like when people tell you you can't do isolation movements or certain rep ranges or use this piece of equipment. Not everything is shit by default. But you're certainly free to disagree or call it out.
>>76575624Also I've heard stories from friends about them using their real voice online somewhere and then people taking it and using it in AI voice models to get to them really messed up stuff or try to scam their families. So it has crossed my mind. Then again I have my face already online so kind of too late for that.
>>76575624Anyone who can bear to listen to those computer generated voices has something severely wrong with their brain.
>>76575624>If you just don't even think of anything original and just use AI to make clique sigma male videos it's slopand it makes you money tho
>>76575655I'd say the same thing about anyone who uses 4chan but yet here we both are eh
>>76574970>But also internet was full of bullshit advice and myths.What kind of bullshit advice and myths? What were the most commonly believed?
>>76575706It was common belief that you had to switch your routine very often to "shock" your muscles.Some believed you need to eat 12 meals a day because anabolic window or some shit.Most gymbros believed that cardio kills your gains.Most bodybuilding diets were plain rice and boiled chicken. There was such thing called "milk diet". Some mfkers really consumed nothing but milked and preached that shit too.A majority of newbies really believed guys like Simeon Panda, Ulysses Jr. are natty. Juicers all believed that you will forever look like dyel if you don't juice. Some still do tbbh.People didn't know crap about juicing. You either stayed natty or took 2g of test+tren+deca, there was nothing inbetween.5x5 training program was common and people said it is optimal for muscle growth.You had tons of bullshit programs like "german volume training"Bro split was the shit. Monday was the international chest day. Nowadays people lean towards push/pull/legs or upper/lower split.Rich Piana made it famous to drink dozens of protein shakes a day. Some mfkers never ate a real meal.Media demonized some supplements like creatine and whey. Tons of misinformation saying that it will kill you. In reality it was roidheads killing themselves with gear.
>fake natty roidtranny grifters before who you've "idolized" as a DYEL tweenagervs>fake natty roidtranny grifter that try to sell you their bullshit product/programSame shit, different barrel.
>>76575667I don't care. I'm not watching your shitty video.
>>76575291Nailed it. Many people do shit because theyre driven by insecurity. Otter mode chads are naturally comfortable with their body, without body dysmorphiaZyzz was like a jersey shore italian. Seeking external validation is ussually a fairly inefficient way to fix internal insecurities and self-imposed blockages.
>>76574907I still watch the old videos I grew up with makes me happy
>>76574907He died like a pajeet, running in front of a train for clout
>guys who actually lived the lifestylewhen i think of "the lifestyle" i think of guys like tom platz who moved to venice beach because it had a famous gym, good weather and sand. steve reeves did the same and at one point basically said you should train 3 days a week so you have more time for relaxing and womenpiana did the same thing (but maybe with a florida beach) as did guys like calum von mogerthe internet and information saturation really made bodybuilding nerdy
>>76574907Greg died trying to out run a train. Literal low IQ third world behaviour. Rich was an insecure drug addict who only cared about looking wider than people, even if it meant he had to inject oil into his body to achieve it. Both impossible losers. There’s so many more respectable YouTubers now a days, like Jeff Nippard, Will Tennyson, Mike Israetel (to name a few)
>>765768467/10 but made it too obvious at the end.
>>76576854Is my post too hard to discredit so you have to label it as bait to dismiss it? Everything I said is factually undeniably correct. Who would you rather take advice from: a mentally ill drug addict who’s never achieved anything or a natural, experienced natural with achievements under his belt like winning competitions and phds?
>>76576872None of the blokes you mentioned are respectable.The competitions any of them might be winning are worth as much as an under 10s hockey game. In fact, less, since at least the hockey game is a sport rather than a beauty contest.Also, a PhD in sports physiology from Tennessee State is not an achievement; it only serves to degrade the title of PhD.
>>76574907why the fuck are you eating sneed oils
>>76575056What's stopping me from the joining those ranks? Grew up watching Rich before I even lifted, I'm the same age as samIs it literally just blasting gear and recording myself doing anything? Been told I'm a pretty funny guy, think if I have a crazy physique people would watch
>>76576872Isratel is a mentally ill drug addict though. Seems like he's also dabbling in unnecessary surgeries too.Don't know much about Will. Jeff seems fine.
>>76574970>But also internet was full of bullshit advice and myths.It still is, arguably even more than back then.
>>76574907Remember when this dumb nigger tried to outrun a train and got turned into a red paste with ligaments lol
>>76576846>kike israel>jeff nipple>respectableand willy is too normie but his videos are mostly entertaining
>>76574907>sportBodybuilding has always been gay as fuck and filled with losers.Calling it a sport is retarded, too.
