Holy shit..
I feel like this would put unnecessary leverage strain on your back
>>76575846> le hecking strain on my backerinoFuck off pussy
>>76575852I hate being a pussy but you just can't train your spinal discs to be hernia resistant
i prefer targeting my side abs over my front abs
>>76575846>I feelFacts don't care about your feelings
>>76575858You can - it's called jefferson deadlifts. but also you can build muscle around them.
yeahthis is the only - I repeat - the *only* ab exercise that feels satisfying to do
>>76576087you clearly have not repped out cable ab crunches (dicksuckers)
I just do the swipe-under-butt ez variant. But all you REALLY need is hanging leg raises and twists.
>>76576117>cableyou work out on machines, you shake hands with satan
why do we keep trying to claim 1 superior exercise? no such thing never will b you will b forever gay for claiming so
>>76575839these are fun but unnecessarily strenuous.>>76575846its not your back so much as your shoulders.>>76575971holy shit the based botposter is still around?
Legs need to go lower than that to better engage the core muscles. They must be barely above whatever you're lying on to complete the rep.
>>76575971post body specifically core and abs faggot, you're here shilling this nonsense every thread let's see the result
>>76575839I like doing presses for abs, no other way imo to get serratus/upper abs and inner smooth(?) muscles. Youll notice if someone doesnt have a blocky midsection they will plateau on bench so im going for a wider ribcage.
>>76575852Enjoy sciatica at 40
>>76575839Smashed out a load of these last night to finish my session. Love me some dragon flags lad.
>>76575866True nigga
>>76578806> enjoy made up boogey man Delusions only exist in your mind
>>76578703so what do you mean, lay on the ground with your legs above you on your bed and squeeze your heels into the mattress while you crunch?
>>76575839my shoulders and thoracic area always feel fucked up when i do these no matter which grip i use
>>76575971Based! Thanks verbose anon, i have been looking for a way to isolate abs from hip flexors
>>76575839Do it on the ground and keep your core stable. Holding the bench is cope cheating. You should do it by sweeping your hands under your butt. Look up reverse crunch.
>>76578703>>76575971i.e., you need a Janda situp, which is a situp + activation of the antagonist of the hip muscle that normally does all of the work in a situp and prevents you from training your abs.Pavel's Bulletproof Abs goes into this while shilling an "Ab Pavelizer" that helps you do it solo. With StrongFirst selling fitness programs and DragonDoor selling more niche fitness gear like the Neuro-Grips and the IsoMax, I think the shilling wasn't all Pavel's idea.
>>76575866Very Jewish argument
>>76581994Fuck off retard.
>>76575839How do I do this at home? I have nothing to grab on.
>>76582497Table leg, bed frame, door frame. Or if you got a cali park close by any vertical pole.>>76582173You talk too much. That speaks more than any of the opinions in your posts.
>>76582497>>76582503>You talk too much. That speaks more than any of the opinions in your posts.nou bot-bottom, errything beside my posts on my screen is ur fake robotized traffic >>76581994so it is U that isn't even You cause u don't exist that talks too much, "talks" >>76582497>How do I do this at home? I have nothing to grab on.properly :D like so: >so u move upper torso in relation to pelvis, but u can also move pelvis in relation to fixed upper body>>dragon flag? but u said hooman it's all iliopsoas and rectus femoris and is retarded and will injure lower back and no abs will be made>all true bot-bottom, so u bend legs in knees and hips fully and lift entire setup up, do not roll on your spine - no, lift up :D the squeeze on abs especially upper abs - TREMENDOUS>flexing hips all the way switches off iliopsoas because it's got too much slack to do anything in this case>so i am having iliopsoas either entirely stretched with almost straight legs doing heelhook (there is no reason not to point toes and get gastrocnemius at the same time, point em inward - u want moar inner gastroc than outer)>or i'm giving iliopsoas enough slack to make it unusable with full hip flexion
>>76582527No, I actually train. Rather than talking theoretics on a euskarian train enthusiast forum. And thus I have gained a strong body and commendable physique. A big part of that training uses dragon flags.Or you know, you could post physique and put your money where your mouth is. Thus proving us all wrong.
>>76582643>Replying to the schizo bot cunt in good faithAre you well, anon?
>>76582643>>76582657i believe it's called schizophrenia bot - talking to yourself lol :D mine: >>76582527>>76582173>>76581994>but u didn't say anything this time around i have exhausted the topic at hand that's why u're trying to wash it down bot-bottom with personal attacks :D
>>76575870What are we writing the declaration of independence? It's lifting gay boi. Get with the times.
>>76575839I can only do the straight legged negatives of these but holy shit my abs are torn up for days afterwards.
>>76575866Ok Jew Shapiro
>dragon flag seems cool, decide to try them>struggle to even get one >check out the videos about dragonflag from utube again to make sure I have not missed anything >I have been trying to do dragonflags with only my rear delts touching the ground while others touch ground with their mid back >wtf this is cheating >manage to do 5 reps now Red is what my stupid ass thought counts as dragon flag vs what actually counts in green.
>>76582668Go eat shit you retard.
>>76583197huh I think I made the same mistake. Could only do eccentrics (which is also fine desu)
>>76575858>>76575846>>76578806Some of you are such insufferable pussies. Just the thought that you can't sit on your cute little machine with comfortable silicone handles and isolate each muscle group somehow makes you scared. Doing anything that you haven't seen in your stupid "science based" youtube channels ran by twinks makes you think you are gonna hurt yourself.
>>76583197holy fuck are you serious, i made the same mistake. goddamnit no wonder i hurt my shoulder.
>>76584362stop dabbing on science like a poltard. Building resilience in full ROM is EXACTLY science based. Being afraid of hecking back flexion or >90 degree angles is bro horseshit
>>76575839how is this better than leg raises with ankle weights?
>>76584397I'm not dabbing on science. I'm dabbing on these little pussies that populate these fitness forums that think fitness is running on their stupid treadmills or grabbing their silicone dildos.
Please give 30 minute ab routine
>>76584443But those have nothing to do with science???
>>76575839>declined incline bench>flat bench with weights>heavy db on chest and obliques
>>76584504My brother in science, for the sake of atheism, for the love of Neil DeGrasse Tyson, do I have to spell it out for you? There is a reason I wrote "science based" in quotation. I'm not talking about science. I am talking about these pussy ass youtubers that never did a sport in their life and babble on about scientific studies they don't even understand.
>>76584521aight fair enough
>>76584511>>declined incline benchwhat did you do instead?
for me it's hanging leg/knee raises
>>76576798The form is bad in general, he’s basically doing leg raises not dragon flags.
>>76575839You do realize that your body will eventually return to its natural form.Big rippling muscle was a scam created in the 80's to sell spandex and gym clothes.Muscle building is destructive and a fraud.
>>76586551I tongue your anus.
>>76575839Can I do this at home somehoelw? Dont really haave a bench. Also would putting something under your back help? This would stretch the abs more at the bottom
>>76575839Just do hanging leg curls holy shit thats the only ab exercise needed. While also strengthening your grip and dead hang ability
>>76586981most people use their hip flexors for leg raises
>>76582657Yeah I dunno what came over me desu. His ramblings do my head in though.Like one of those "Soience boysed" fitness faggots that theorises everything but never actually does the damn thing.
>>76575839I'm absolutely sure people think it's a good exercise just because it looks kinda cool and has a cool name. Good old hanging leg raises are way more comprehensible and do the same and more.
