There is no way 150 lbs is the average over head press come onhow reliable is this strength standards website?
>>76579144Seems intermediate to me but if you look at polling of what sets and reps are they doing with the lift it's majority 5x5 so lot of powerlifting stuff.
>>76579144You have to realize, the user's that would care enough to record their own lifts on a website are most likely intermediate or advanced lifters. Give and take some weight because of bigger heavier lifters, the random untruthful records of like 100 lbs on lateral raises to see the percentile stronger than record, etc.
>>76579144If you go the bodyweight% their "intermediate" is 189 lbs.
>>76579189im a wimp then lol
Beginner bench press is 100lbs according to them, despite the fact that basically every man i know wouldn't be able to 1RM 135lbsMaybe i should meet new people
>>76579144>>76579186>Those 50lbs jumps between novice and intermediate on every single lift including shit like lateral raises and curls and fliesLmaolol
>>76579198These are ormaxes
>>76579144>>76579198>Pajeet problems
>>76579144It is the average OHP for lifters and 150 seems pretty standard
>>76579144Out of all my co-workers (in an office) and friends I would say 5-10% could OH press lift 100lbs once. Lifters and hands on physical job guys probably could do 150 5x5 it but idk, honestly from the tradies I've seen I'd say they couldn't do that without training
>>76579280the average lifter dreams of OHPing 150lbs
kekke you fucking bitch. i will kill you if post one more thread
>>76579144It's one rep max anon (assuming they don't lie OHP is fairly easy to cheat)>>76579280LMAO it isn't, my humble 1lmaopl8 OHP mogs everyone else's in my gym
>>76579144That looks like self reported nonsenseErxx.net is what I use for standards
>>76579144150lbs is average for the tiny subsection of the population interested in strength training/lifting so much so that they record their lifts on a website to see how they compare, which sounds about right.I highly doubt the average American would be able to ohp even 95lbs for one rep (that's 25 on each side).>>76579799>LMAO it isn't, my humble 1lmaopl8 OHP mogs everyone else's in my gymI don't think I've seen anyone irl ohp 185.
>>76579144>There is no way 150 lbs is the average over head pressYeah, seems pretty low. I just started doing serious weight training a few months ago, and made it to a similar weight, 70kg (1x1) within three weeks, then 3x3 after two months, and currently3x5. Soon I'll have to buy more weights kek.
>>76579839True, basically all my peers and I do 5x5 OHP with 2pl (around 100kg) and we all started lifting a year ago.Sometimes that's just how it is you know?
>>76579839>>76579849kek
fat powershitters and trannies have ruined lifting
my problem with overhead press is that i always start with the barbell on the ground, since i don't have a rackit's draining
>>76579816I haven't tried lifting anything close to that in months, maybe now I can do it once push pressing but it's highly unlikely tbf, 3x5 with one plate fries me fr fr
>>76579866Might as well just train snatch man, you basically already are
>>76579144Might as well do strict incline bench
>>76579144its the average. untrained teens will get there in less than a year. if you struggle to OHP 150 lbs you're just fundamentally weaker than the average person.
>>76579866Lean forward and knee it up with a sitting hang clean, strict narrow no tris mp is good for mid/front delt development. But youll still want some bench(reverse roll off) and leaned/rotated cable flies to get front delts. If you only have a barbell get some oly dbs and good collars, if youre doing specific work unilateral is good enough if you already did barbell until you can buy more pl8s and screw in/i beam punching bag anchors or a nice squat cage.
>>76579925If youre doing ohp/mp for weight please tell me your shoulder recovery routine.
>>76579866Learn to clean faggot you cant clean it you can ohp it you're a genetic dead end
>>76579144I OHP 0.5pl8 and I mog everyone else in my gym by the virtue of being the only one to actually do overhead presses
>>76579925>/fit/ can't OHP 225lbsdoes anyone actually lift in here?
>>76579938Dbs are nicer for strong shoulders since you can knee it up easier and just spam non strict raises doing most of it leaned so its not end or beginning of rom. The strict work is best for super light tendon work at the end of the lifting week imo. But i would still get squat stands or a cage just for mp since delts grow best with more frequent here and there work, as a ton of heavy sets in a row is hard to not get a week long shoulder strain.
>>76579144>5 million recorded shoulderpress liftsthat aren't even that many people doing OHP in the entire world
>>76579186by that logic, a good intermediate bench press is like 150 pounds
>>76579950I could probably 185x1 strict enough but my shits fucked
>>76579950Whats your shoulder recovery routine? I have strong lats and traps, weak delts, half decent chest. And the effected tendons are mid/front delts from right arm biased bench/incline.
>>76579957>beginner to intermediate doubles>novice to advanced doublesthis is crazy lmao
>>76579958>155x3-5 for multiple sets decently strict mp
>>76579144This Bw ohp isn't an impressive feat
>>76579968Everyone that isn't a genetic dead end can do it every 48 hours.225lbs 5x5 3 times a week bro.
>>76579980This was months ago btw, my shoulder tendons are absolutely fucked. Whats your shoulder recovery routine?Im down a good 20% on any given press because >>76579968
>>76579980And btw i put 100lbs on my bench 1rm calc in a year with about 2 handles of liquor a week shithead
Not a single person ITT can shoulder press more than 70lbsThis board is larp central
>>76579816>I don't think I've seen anyone irl ohp 185.My working (3x5) weight is 195. Of all my lifts, the one I'm most proud of is ohp. I got 225 for a double for the first time last week.
>>76580010Meh i could probably do 80s for low reps with no chest
>>76579144I've never seen anyone under 250lbs hit 1.5pl8 ohp without cheating even once in my entire life
>>76579144Yeah, I think it's a bit unrealistic. Most people don't even OHP or do anything shoulder related with serious effort.Most of the time I see people doing OHP it's sub 1pl8. I did OHP right from the start when I started lifting because it was shilled so much. I started with 40kg for sets and now I can do 90kg for 1 rep, maybe 95kg if super fresh but haven't tested my max. My working sets are 72.5kg 4x6 and after those I rep out 10 reps of 1pl8. Took year and some months to get to this point having never lifted in my life. My bench also is quite decent I guess, 150kg for 1rm. I have good presses but my pulls suck.6ft1 205-210lbs
>>76580129yes but cuz your fat, on gear, fatty on gear or lieing which is about 99% likly
>>76580328Fat - kinda? I'm starting a cut to 86kg right now.Gear - No, my T levels are actually not that good. I actually should get on TRT or some shit I think. I can only imagine my gains then.I'm have more strength than muscle. I look VERY dyel, really annoys me. Also have fucked up wrists from taking to many falls during my teenage years in other sports, still able to do it with wraps.Probably can't do it without them, so I guess in some eyes my 90kg OHP doesn't count.
>>76579144If this is 1 rep max avg that makes a lot of sense.
>>76580359>Gear - No, my T levels are actually not that good. I actually should get on TRT or some shit I think. I can only imagine my gains then.Brother, do it. You won't regret it. I wasted over a year with laughable gainz due to my 200 ng/dL test. I added probably double the muscle in 6 months with 900 ng/dL levels on TRT.
my wrist fucking hurts when i do ohp because i have to basically do a clean
>>76580620do you not have power racks in your gym? You can OHP while someone else squats no prob
>>76580585I know this is /fit/, but are there any consequences of taking trt long term? Aside from it costing a lot. I mean I'm guessing you don't cycle it like roids, so your stuck taking a synthetic hormone replacement for life while your balls shovel up.
>>76580850Shrivel*
>>76580010Yeah what is going on in this thread
>>76579144>averageFor what age group?For what weight group?For what level of experience?
>>76580850NTAThey will and your fertility might drop significantly.Your brain stops making LH and FSH which basically tell your balls, produce sperm, produce T. because you are injecting it and there is no need.TRT unironically can be considered a form of male birth control. Most doctors will hesitate giving it to you if you plan on having kids in the future. They might even make you freeze some sperm before they put you on it.But other than that, upsides are: more energy, better mood, better gains, better drive and motivation, overall better feel. QoL goes up, might fix ED if you have it too. Fertility and the fact that it's a lifetime commitment is the only drawback.
I hit 1 pl8 strict (no push) OHP for the first time a few months back and I only weighed 125 lbs at the time. I’m a manlet who’s been training for a few years though
>>76579144Bro the average person doing a shoulder press does it on the smith machine and moves the bar a total of 1 inch. Much like a sled leg press where the average person can do 1,200lbs with 1 inch range of motion but can't get to parallel on a 185lb squat. Just ignore any number anyone gives you without video proof.
>>76579144do they count every single time someone enters a lift on the website ? because sometimes I enter numbers that I don't actually lift just to see what performance it would give me if I did. like I think I could do 315 for 10 reps in a year, I haven't actually lifted it yet
>>76580020That is legit strong at "the press." That is actually my goal. 225 is enough to lift a full grown man over your head like a pro wrestler.
>>76579952That's what slowed down my pressing with barbell. I still do it but I've been doing more db and I'm really digging it. Looking at history the overhead press and bent over press are very underrated and not done enough in my opinion. I'm actively trying to get better at it.
Holy fuck i just realized that i'm almost advanced in bench pressing (100kg x 5 reps at 73kg bw) and i'm novice on squatting at 100kg x 6 reps. It's so fucking over how do i better my squatting
>internet dorks despair at the fact that e-stats aren't realityGet outside more. Redpill: The majority of elite athletes CANNOT press their bodyweight.
>>76585775>mfw my barbell shoulder press is stronger than my bench press
>>76585775>>76585775very similar but I'm even weeker
>>76579144Self selection bias