I got diagnosed with Scheuermann's disease, turns out I wasn't just slouching and needed to fix my posture, my spine grew funnyIt's over for my swole goals, deadlifts/shrugs/OHPs or anything that compresses my spine are outWhat do I try and chase now? A flexible yoga guy with jacked arms and quads?
>>76579618looked it up and even though doctors only say I have scoliosis I look exactly like thsoe peopleits so fucking grim manall this training just to look like a Attack on Titan freaki look exactly like the right side of the picrels and I always though that I could fix it a bit with more training but apparently my pose already is considered the "improved" one
>>76579989like look at itwtf even is thisthe "bad" posture side even looks better, the other one is just literally raindrop shaped
>>76579618I have it too and I'm only doing calisthenics.When you get older you need to constantly stretch and massage your back or you'll get into a lot of trouble.
>>76579618> "improvement"man this shit is so depressingi think I will just stick to left and go ogremodeeverything but looking like hank hill
>>76579989>>76580040desu i don't think you'd even notice this guy had anything if he didn't have such a flat ass, just make sure you're doing plenty of glute hamstring and quad isolations if you can't squat
>>76579989You might not have it, I looked at MRIs today and could see actual grey little squashed disks that will never improve, maybe get it confirmed because you give up>>76580022Yeah I was blaming my desk job but wondered why it never improved with work, i guess ill stick to monthly massages etcSpeaking of calisthetics, the biggest give away is how crazy my back looks when doing a pushup
>>76580057Always massage, stretch & move.Use a reverse hyper to ease the disc compression.
>>76579618I remember when I used to obsess about bad posture.Now that I'm 37 I can say that it was a waste of time and mental resources.It's a complete fucking meme unless you are like the guy in the op's pic.Just train you fucking faggot and stop having numerical goals in the gym, you're not an athlete, just improve yesterday's version of yourself
>>76580135You're a dumb retard, its an actual issue that will fuck up every aspect of your life if you don't deal with it properly
>>76580337nothing bad that wasn't bound to happen is gonna happen if you keep training and stretch and keep active. Also it's not an issue because it's not solvable, it's just how the guy is made and that's all.
>>76579618I have kyphosis but got it fixed via surgery. I do lift, but my spine is always supported.
>>76581468how old were you when you did get it fixed?i know a woman that got braces when she was like 14
>>76580353>Also it's not an issue because it's not solvable, it's just how the guy is made and that's all.Exactly, unless OP wants to have a serious and expensive surgery that creates its own issues down the road.OP is like a girl ...waaaah I don't have model-like posture my life is ruined
>>76580353I can immediately tell you and the guy you're replying to are american, youve got that out of your depth but surpremely confident attitude that makes you look like a retard but we can tell you arent aware how stupid you areThe point being discussed is how a spine that has formed like this can't take compression and spine compressing lifts are some of the main lifts for getting big, its not an attitude "just try your hardest!" Faggot thing it's closer to an engineering problemSo don't give me your gay little pep talk you fucking idiot
>>76579618>anything that compresses my spine are outwhat about exercises that elongate your spine?pic related
>>76580353>>76581602>just trainThat's the problem you retards he cant train because his spine is fucked up. Can't you read?
>>76582047Theyre retards who can't read, lmao, the key point it isnt just "stop slounching bro" its a gimped spine>>76582029Yes this is what I need to max I think, deadlifts OUT deadhangs IN
>>76582019>>76582047Yes, he better cry about it on 4chan. There are people with kyphoscoliosis that load their spines with SQ&DL. Yes they won't deadlift 300kg and have to be more careful and do hours of prehab work but some manage to do it. In fact training back muscles is even more important than usual if you have a bad back. It is what it is but crying about your bad roll is easier
>>76579618>I got diagnosed with Scheuermann's disease, turns out I wasn't just slouching and needed to fix my posture, my spine grew funnyI'd bet money your slouching caused it over time. Pressure on anything alive will move it eventually.
>>76582470Yeah bro you know way more than any medical professional and decades of science, you should definitely "bet money" you stupid fucking retard>>76582462So you're switching from "just ignore it bro" to "actually people do this all the time" lmao what a fucking loser, you came in trying to look like some chad authority and just gave a gay ass little motivation post, sick bro you're so confident
>>76582502>Yeah bro you know way more than any medical professional and decades of scienceHow did you find this website
>>76582502It's better to crypost "ohhhh poor me I won't ever get big, console me bros" on an internet imageboard, got it. Fucking faggot. It's not even motivational, it's really hard and you need to put 10x the work of normal people but it's not a death sentence. The fact you care about aesthetics shows me you're a faggot or underage because after you pass a certain age, pain is the primary complain, not >It's over for my swole goalsbullshit.
>>76582504A rushed scam covid study is not the same as decades of spinal research lmao are you slow?>>76582507Not reading all that lmao, youre doubling down and sprialing on trying to sound like some motivational chad when you misread and/or dont understand whats being discussed, just leave the thread you faggot youre not convincing anyone
>>76582511>decades of spinal research
>>76582516Yes daily mail click bait titles means you know more about the spine than every doctorYou realize how stupid this is right?
>>76582511>trying to sound like some motivational chadFucking idiot, that's your fantasy. There's not a single person with an illness that got better by complaining. You're an underage retard that cares about "gains" but reality will hit you hard in a few years when you will care about your daily back pain. Spinal research says those conditions are idiopathic and you either "fix" them with major surgery or you lift, carefully, so your muscles can support your spine.
>>76582535Not reading this faggot motivational stuff how many times do you need to he told, fuck off loser
>>76582549>Loser>He's the one crying about his condition on a cartoon imageboard
>>76582554Yes cool, now leave mr motivation chad,Cheers
>>76582522>You realize how stupid this is right?Not as stupid as slouching for 30 years and expecting to have a straight spine.I knew someone diagnosed with diverticulitis, and no doctor ever suggested not pushing when going to the bathroom. Diverticulosis is caused by pressure in the colon, and made worse by further pressure. (-itis is just a resulting infection.) Doctors are aggresively ignorant of reality, for the most part. YOU should trust them.
>>76582573I actually grew up playing tennis at a competitive level, most of highschool until the final year I was playing regular tournaments, so I was active as fuck and not slouchingThe bone growth which causes this happens usually between ages 10-15, and once they set they don't change, and they don't alter without major surgery, I lifted for most my 20s, and wore back braces regularly because I hated my posture, it is genuinely different than bad posture or your low low level of understandingYou genuinely have no idea what the fuck youre talking about and you finally baited me into an actual post pointing this outYou're an idiot and you life will be better once you humble yourself and your low iq soccer mom level of science, fucking retard.
>>76582573I've gone to ~10 orthopedic doctors for my spine throughout the years, one recommended surgery and the rest all said i can't really do anything and that I should lift. They were Euro doctors though, in America they push surgery more aggressively.>>76582588Sounds like your doctors should advise you to get some mental health help
>>76582610HAHA so concrete science is false but mental health is a thing??? What a backwards reddit take, fucking kill yourself lmao
>>76582624I'm case you missed it, the concrete scientists advised me to lift
>>76582588>Suggested components that might explain or partially explain this condition, among many others, include abnormal collagen to proteoglycan ratios, dural cysts, childhood osteoporosis, biomechanical stressors such as tight hamstrings, and growth hormone hypersecretion.>biomechanical stressors>slouchingBetter get that surgery kid, Audis don't pay for themselves.
>>76582588>Originally, Scheuermann noticed this spinal deformity in agriculture workers who were frequently hunched or bent over.
>> guys I got Scheuermann's disease. What lifts should I do now?> hm you fucking retard I bet it's caused by all this slouching and being on the phone all the timejust fyithis is the way normies thinkif you have some kind of disabilty they will ALWAYS assume that it somehow is your faultknew a 6'3 guy and he sometimes, when drunk, would rant about manlets and how it is their own fault for smoking as children (most of them never even smoked lmao)if you are a cripple people will think that you derseve it and that you are evilthat's just the way it is experience it myself to some degree
I have a mild case of SD aswell. It developped in my teens. Because of it im in constant pain since over 10 years, I still lift tho cuz it doesnt make it worse, but sadly doesnt improve it either. As to what causes it, official stance is that its ideopathic. I do believe tho that "bad posture" during development might cause your vertebrae to grow wedge shaped, which causes the excessive kyphosis. Yet my brother whos the same height as me, slouched all the time being a gamer and he has 0 pain and a perfect spine/posture in daily life...
>>76582516>5 year old clickbait news headlines are equivalent to academic literatureso you admit to being stupid and call it an argument?
>>76579618check out craniumautist on ig, she had scheuermanns too
>>76584004>so you admit to being stupid and call it an argument?Poster appealed to authority (doocters) and I showed the authority is unqualified. Remember when they said ivermectin doesn't work and started prescribing a drug that does the same thing but worse but the patent hadn't expired? I member.
>>76584616Remember when the US Surgeon General said N-95s don't prevent transmission of covid, then weeks later said loose, floppy, surgical masks just meant to keep spit and hair off patients do? I just membered that.