8 reps. I love the look on dyels faces when they see me doing these more than they can bench.You'll never get big shoulders doing lateral raises with 20lbs dumbbells and stupid OHP which is a front delt exercise anyway and no matter how strict you think your form is you just lean back and turn it into a vertical bench press anyway
you know what bro you are fucking right. I keep tweaking my should doing lateral raises. gonna start doing these instead
>>76581322I will do these tomorrow, you better not be fucking with me. Of you are, woe to your lineage. If you are not, blessing upon your lineage.
>>76581347And dont listen to these formcels either.Rows and lat raises are fairly very easy most of the way up an extremely difficult at the very top. Its ok to use a little moment to get that last few inches at the top of the ROM just dont get carried away.Also lat raises dont stress your elbows so if you're prone to tendonitis, upright rows are more likely to aggrivate it.
>>76581378con't - also and ez curl bar might be better than a straight barbell for most people. Much easier on the wrists and elbows
I can row 2 plates for reps any time just from my deadlift strength. I didn't row for probably a year then did them the other day
>>76581410if you're talking about bent over lat rows/ pendlay rows thats not the same thing.
>>76581322It's crazy that retards vilified these and behind the neck ohp when both are great.
Based as fuck, time to start blasting out high pullshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YtOANPcgww
>>76581322I do these but on rings upside down
>>76581322>>doesn't poast videoweak larp, you sound like a little cunt
Upright row or high pull?
>76582034what causes such disorders?being fed with a lead spork during infancy?
>>76582034get it together bot you are malfunctioning
>>76581322kek - nice picture name
>>76581322>Finally did 2 plate upright rowNo you fucking didn't. I wouldn't even believe 1plate with good form till clavicle. Video or never happened (and never will what a retarded claim lmao)
>>76581322My upper back looks like shit from the side unless i flex. Am i supposed to be doing a ton of strict bb front raises and or half rep top of rom good mornings or how do i look thicker from the side?
>>76581322>You'll never get big shoulders doing lateral raises with 20lbs dumbbellsafter all, 20 lbs is as high as dumbbells go, weight wise
>>76581322>stupid OHP which is a front delt exercise anyway and no matter how strict you think your form is you just lean back and turn it into a vertical bench press anywayI don't really do anything but single arm and barbell ohp and my side delts are fine thanks.
>>76583668You gotta try just doing mid delts with ohp and elbows in front. Front delts only activate with the arm going inwards anyways.
>>76583659lmao jealous little dyel
I was lied to by Athlean-X about never doing these but they feel so fucking good and my shoulders have never felt better nor were bigger. Gets your entire top profile bulging from the neck to the even the brachioradialis.
>>76581322How did you do it bro. Upright rows feel great for my shoulders, but they fuck up my wrists. Any time I try to do them I can feel/hear a faint clicking noise followed by mild discomfort - almost as if I'm about to snap something. No other exercise has done me this dirty
>>76585093>but they fuck up my wriststry an ez curl bar and experiment with different hand positions
>>76585100>>76585093This thread is so motivating. I used to spam upright rows in 2023 and I had crazy trap and shoulder gains. I should get back to it, and I didn’t even go heavy back then
>>76585093I use these on my barbell. Also I put Fat Grips next to these so that they don't slip and slide.
What do you guys think of upright rows with dumbbells? They feel a lot better for my wrists but they don’t seem like they blast my delts as well for some reason.
>>76581322>upright rowst. works at the visitor center for snap city
>>76585321>it is le bad because I saw a meme about it
aww - it's so clean, so undisturbed bot :D u still haven't shown ONE human doing 2 plates controlled upright row bot-bottomer :D
>>76585292Whatever helps you upright row! I prefer the EZ-bar as the stability lets me overload more easily.
>>76585321It's cool how everyone has discounted this charlatan's advice outside of finding a good stretch for lower back pain.
>>76581322I get literally 0 hypertrophy from this but its a pretty sick lift for shoulders health.
>>76585292u need elbows below palms for delt to work, u need scapula dropped down and spread out (serratus anterior flex - think lat spread) >so just the top of motionyes>with 2 light dumbbels in isometric hold yes, as if u rode high handlebars bike, BUT scapula must be dropped downand scapula sits on ribs that are attached to spine so u will also want to assume upright posture with extended thoracic and double chin for cervical spine extension this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhcW4Jizttkis utter fucken garbage - too heavy, traps will take over and i just told u to keep traps elongated with dropped scapula, it will pinch shit (nerves and shit) between scapulae as u struggle and u get no muscle cause why would u - time under tension if u even get any will be in miliseconds rangeit is all ballistic dynamic bullshit >range of motion well if it is range of motion why don't u stop at the very top of it >i can't it's too heavy colour me surprizened :D >>76585524>aww - it's so clean, so undisturbed bot :D>u still haven't shown ONE human doing 2 plates controlled upright row bot-bottomer :D>>76585321>>76585535nah bot, i just fixed it in this very post :D lets see if u will panic again :D
>>76585342>a well informed video by a sports physiologist and rehabilitator is "just a meme"Absolutely fucking certified mental midget. Also that's not a meme that's just his video thumbnail.>>76585535>reddit spacing>hating on athlean x
OP is right. Upright rows and behind the neck presses are where it's at. I refuse to ever do fucking laterals.
>>76585969>OP is right. Upright rows and behind the neck presses are where it's at. I refuse to ever do fucking laterals.i believe it's called false dichotomy logical fallacy bot they all work in fractions of rom (isometric hold) provided scapulae are held down and out :D >>76585562>but than it's sth completely different indeed bot bottomo :D sth that works & doesn't fuck u up :D
>>76585809>if you dont recognize this thumbnail of a shirtless guy holding holding a barbell you are mental midgetAlso have you ever hurt youself doing upright rows? Do you know anyone who has?
>>76583978video or never happened
>>76586125post body once or stop fucking posting altogether
>>76586677> implying he liftskek
>>76585093Use straps
I just switched to lateral raises from the seated position where you swing the weight under your legs. Jay cutler does them like this and I felt a great shoulder pump when I tried it and no shoulder pain in the joint. Had to lower the weight from what I do standing which means I was cheating more than I thought I was. A little bit of cheating is OK and part of the exercise though. Sitting down limits it a lot
>>76586675lol another weakling
>>76585969Honestly i used to hate raises at all but it is the only way to make your physique flow more by fetting the end of the fiber as in it makes your delts look longer, or pecs look wider and flow into delts etc. However my strength on presses barely go up unless its a blatant weakness.
>>76586658Honestly when the joint dislocates trying to get it up high, more on front and lateral db raises desu. But i just go super light like 5lbs and make sure to brace and use reverse/normal grip to strengthen the tendon without just grinding/impinging it throughout the day so i can lift again sooner.
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>>76581322I can still row way way more than bench its some bullshit but my rear delts also suck. Im thinking i need to start doing seal row shrugs and some wide reverse top of rom back work.
>>76585093Just superficially rotate your hands so you push the barbell like a neutral grip and before putting on heavy weight work on different arm/elbow/shoulder angles. For back i usually like to arch over and push hands forward/up a little bit so the weights on the muscles and not the tendons.
>>76586677>>76586685>>76586697>>76586934blah blah bot bottom :D >>76586902
>>76586934>should i train to joint strainWell impingement, grinding, and tearing/ripping off joint or bone the tendons are all different ways to put you out of the gym for a while unproductively. You have to learn the biomechanics of each lift to really be able to get as strong as possible. And yeah to a degree you can regrow tendons, your body produces hgh/test more if you are regularly lifting and moreso the more muscle you have and are bulking without going into new water source mode.
>>76586928A lot of people dismiss them but I find bent over flys are best for hitting the rear delts specifically. It's much easier to go heavy with rows but you're engaging so many additional muscle groups that the load is spread around and the extra weight doesn't translate to as much additional stimulus to the rear delts as you might think. If you do the flys with strict form instead of cheating and emphasize the hold at the top of the motion moderate weights will still blow your rear delts up
>>76586986I find the only thing to get me a rear delt pump besides top of rom pulls and ripping apart/twisting is super heavy and rotate your body to the right and work more hammer grip with the arm towards hip, and prison reps. I also find that bent elbow or doing a row with a little bit of a fly motion is nice but nothing but heavy push/pulls ever works for me if my form isnt good on the respective lift. I was trying to do some heavy bench isometrics/failure to train it like a shrug, and the whole overloading/eccentric for me is way too much work and i just prefer high volume heavy speed reps once my form is locked in. Its way easier to make cables work easier since momentum has been fucking my gains even if i power through the movement.
>>76585969Idk if youre being facetious but btb is the best way to get heavy weight on your mid delts but you have to have a strong core to be able to get your shoulder blades in front of your shoulder joints almost. I like using an incline bench and leaning forward however much depending on grip width/hand/elbow rotation since bottom of rom heavy instead of just putting the weight on delts is typically just gonna destroyyour tendons. But luckily the lift isnt heavy enough to rip tendons off the jointbut its one of the more advanced lifts since not getting inured while adding enough weight for hypertrophy is about as difficult as getting your inner pecs bigger without getting seperated pecs(also happens with overwork and under recovery).
>>76587042>shoulder blades in front of your shoulder jointsIm drunk thats my que for rear delts on pulls, my btb ques are:>chest and shoulders in front of abs>elbows above wrists flex, shoulders above elbows>rotate in like a shrimp and chin in and chest up like a genie>keep chest abs serratus braced>chin in >rotate hands on barbell so its like neutral grip>upper torso rotated down >lean back or forward for balance and no weight on impingement/tendonsThat and narrow ohp/mp actually grew my delts a ton but it takes a ton more out of you than just dbs/cables/machines while benchmaxxing and you have to do it so fucking often for optimal growth.
>>76587012>top of rom pulls and ripping apart/twisting>super heavy and rotate your body to the right>high volume heavy speed repsISHYGDDT
>>76586658>he doesn't recognize athlean xLurk 10 years
>>76581322Post physique
>>76581380fuck anon, you've convinced me. This is one of the few /fit/ posts that doesn't seem like a schizo ramble or retarded take, and it's arm and shoulder day tomorrow. I've literally never even tried them
>>76586658he's a 00s-10s era grifter back when you could just claim you know "science" and there was nobody to call you out on it
>>76587426>everyone should know this youtube grifter by name just by looking at pic of his shirtless torsodo you know how fucked in the head you sound?I dont sit around all day watching youtube bullshit. I actually leave the house, go the gym etc. Do you even lift?
>>76581322no you didn't and also lat raises are better
>>76588536You’re either 14 or 74
>>76590914what's it like knowing that 14 and 74 year olds are out living their lives instead of siting around all day watching "inflooencers" on utube pushing their shitty gimmick workouts for money?>I'M GONNA INFLOOOOOOENCE!
