Widest study of Animal aging ever conducted finds that slow metabolic rate is the single thing most correlated with long lifespans so this idiot ray peat decides we should do whatever increases our metabolic rate the most? wtf?
>>76581385Do you want to be here for a long time or a good time?
>>76581385the way for humans to lower their metabolic rate is to become fat and sedentary. You really think that's the key to long life just because gay turtle walks around slow and lives to be 150?
>>76581385Works great in animals that don't fall over and die from sarcopenia due to low muscle mass. but It's mogged by calorie restriction mimetics in humans, and anti-SASP protein modulation is a far broader strategy.>t. not victim weight and takes more supplements than Bryan Johnson
>>76581385Limiting intake of protein will limit hypertrophy and anabolism. If you want to live a long time, heavy weight-training is not going to be the answer, generally. Exercise is important for conditioning and prevention, but going too hard is going to be excess and likely suboptimal for long lifespan
is there even a diet that minimizes metabolic rate?are there people on earth trying to do that or is it basically non-existent?
heart metabolic rate*
>>76581626>Ghrelin, food intake, and botanical extracts: A Review>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4587604/
>>76581385As a former Peaterian I am willing to finally admit that Ray Peat was completely wrong.
>>76581435tiny old ladies live the longer so yeah. obviously if you get unhealthy in other ways it wouldn't be a net benefit
>>76581423fpbp
>>76581626Caloric restriction causes a lower metabolic rate
>>76581992>old ladies live the longerThis is true, I saw a 122 year old on TV who had lived for a very long time.
>>76581436best way to restrict isoleucine?
>>76581385> slow metabolic rate is the single thing most correlated with long lifespans >caloric restrictionWhat these show is that bioaccumulation of toxins in the foods you eat is the cause of aging. Thus the solution to aging is good detoxing and clean diet.
>>76581731He had some great ideas, and some terrible ideas, and everything in between. Cutting seed oils was a huge benefit to my life. Eating lots of collagen was also great. His entire forum was changed into Low Vitamin A and Low Toxin Forum after his death.
>>76584194part-time fruitarian.
>>76581435>the way for humans to lower their metabolic rate is to become fat and sedentaryBeing overweight increases BMR though
>>76584507Pretty sure it was the absurd vitamin A overdose, not the carrot juice lol.>70 million units of vit A in 10 days>also drank a gallon of carrot juice a daylol
>>76581385> 5'7" manlet> 1350 tdee > Slow metabolism > Look younger than my ageI'll remember you bros when I'm 200
>>76584507How to detox easy? Don’t want to buy dewormer.
>>76581436>blows money on inert scam pills and powdersYou sound retarded
>>76581436So you can lift intensely and taking supplements will prevent the aging effect? What are the top 5 and how do they work?
>>76582413How long did she live?
>>76581731What was he wrong about?
>>76585482>Glycine - boosts glutathione>NAC - boosts glutathione>Ca-AKG - inhibits protein degradation>Astaxanthin - reduces DNA damage>Banaba - reduces GAS6 protein signal driving vascular aging
there's value in his stuff but sitting around with a deliberately high HR cannot be good for you forever
>>76581423Imagine thinking these are exclusive
>>76581435you don't know shit, being obese increases your heart rate and blood pressure significantly the people with the lowest heart rates are professional cyclists
>>76586850Is there a right age to start taking these? For example I've heard NAC and Glycine aren't necessary for people under a certain age since the body has plenty of Glutathione
>>76587629I started on NAC back in my early 20s before it had mouse lifespan evidence and definitely noticed slight gains in exercise recovery. Many of the so-called anti-aging drugs just act like mild PEDs if you're not too geezerly.
>>76581423No.
>>76586106Her entire life.
>>76584507So everyone before goyslop didn't age?
>>76587629Plenty of glutathione for an animal living in its natural environment. Pollution might be worse than smoking, everything has random chemicals and additives 80% of which are deleterious, plants have pesticides, animals eat those pesticides along with antibiotics, the water has birth control heavy metals and pesticides. Everything is filled with microplastics.If you're white, you probably live in an area where the sun is too hot and your body is constantly fighting off skin cancer. Most sunscreens have toxic chemicals as well such as: oxybenzone, octinoxate, parabens, retinyl palmitate.
just how hard is it to get a clean picture of nutritionI imagine science is pretty close to knowing all of the beneficial compoundsI just have a sneaking suspicion that hollywood actors live the longest because of money and that they are the best humans and therefore deserve to have many children
>>76581731he was right about seed oils. My arthritis hardly ever flares up anymore.
>Yes, a Resting Metabolic Rate (RMR) test can accurately tell you your "metabolic speed"maybe this will be the new 'not having diabetes, but still testing your blood glucose' craze in fitness
HEY, RELAX GUY>as the global ecological footprint exceeds Earth's biocapacity, meaning we are consuming resources faster than they can regenerate...ai search so it could be wrongtards are producing more than the deserving areIt's almost as if being honest with yourself and judging others is the way forward
So eating more or being in a surplus literally ages you because of higher metabolic rate? It’s so over
>>76586619Well for a start the high body temperature and heart rate thing. It's literally the opposite for longevity.A high heart rate either means your sympathetic nervous system is on overdrive due to stress or abusing stimulants like lots of coffee, thyroid and sugar.Or it means you are unfit and your heart is weak so has to beat at a higher rate to pump the required blood volume to supply oxygen.Or you are obese and the heart has to beat faster to supply oxygen to your excess wasteful mass of tissues.A high body temperature implies your metabolism is inefficient at converting fuel into energy and is wasting a lot of energy in the form of heat. Like your computer doing random wasteful calculations in the background because some software or process has malfunctioned, overheating the CPU.A higher body temperature also can mean a chronic low grade infection or inflammation which is not good for health.
>step father--69yo laughs at me closing my blinds and limiting sun when parents visit--they're very tarded when it comes to health and fitnessdoesn't matter because i broke his nose once and had 3 total physical fights with him in the past
>>76586619aside from seed oils was there anything he was right about?
>>76588903lol now that i think about it, this "father" once asked me how to copy and paste, he doesn't even have dementia or anything, he could of just googled how to do it
>>76581385All those long lived animals with slow metabolisms never have a slow down in metabolism. Its steady for however long they live. Thats the key factor. Most other animals metabolims slow with age until they die. Btw humming birds and bats both have crazy fast metabolims and live longer than any other bird or rodent. This takes a dump on rate of living folks who think animals are machinese that jsut break down over time like your car does. These guys think you're an inert candle that just burns out or that your heart just genetically has a certain number of beats before it craps out. Newsflash you're a living organism that regenerates constantly (that is until your metabolism gets too slow to regenerate)>>76588895just lmaoHeart rate being slower in endurance athletes is literally hypothroidism and drug induced.At optimal metabolism, your heart is gonna vary in beats at like 70-80. Retarded slaves think lowering the heart rate is a healthy.Optimal body temp is 98.6Thats not elevated (it is for hypothyroid slaves stuck at 97.6). A higher body temp actually indicates you have the metabolic energy supplied to keep it high and having it high makes you way more immune to infections.
>>76581435>You really think that's the key to long lifeOfc, phlegmatics live the longest as the ancients knew already. I have the feeling that our modern, high life expectancy, isn't because we are healthier or smarter or have better medicine than in the past. It's because we are lazier. Case in point: Average life expectancy rises as average body temperature falls in humanity. We once were at 37.5°C.>>76584507Caloric restriction causes slower metabolism.
>metabolismYou must ask the right questions ... and thanks to Google this is now easy as ever.Here is what I have learned and accomplished.I wanted to start training and not be a DYEL any longer, but having to eat way more than the average person was a problem for me. I ended up coming across what really REALLY boosts my metabolism, in that now I can eat all the time. If food is presented to me I will never pass it up. B12 and chamomile tea. Just these two has really done it for me. This is great for /fit/ in general, but I would like to know how to slow it down as I don't want to be too muscly. Sure Google can tell me but you guys must have personal experience with metabolism. Haven't been on /fit/ for long but you guys are pretty knowledgeable >captcha: DNA PX
>>76589068sorry didn't read thread! some tips here and there>animal who is symbol of long life must have secrets
>>76584519>He had some great ideas
>>76581385Compare a turtle's brain and a humans. You haven't actually come up with a gotcha like you think you have.>>76588895The gall of this retard to unironically claim he is a "former peater">A high body temperature implies your metabolism is inefficient at converting fuel into energy and is wasting a lot of energy in the form of heat. hahahahahahahahahahha
