how do i learn about steroids? any books or something like that you can recommend?im not talking about "bro"-tier resources about how you should do this and that, i actually want to get knowledge.
>>76583389reddit.com/r/steroids wiki is actually pretty good
There is no one source. 40 years agot there was a book called The Underground Steorids handbook or something, by Dan Duchaine. Its sciene is a little out of date but it might be helpful.The More Plates More Dates you tube channel is actually pretty good Google his video on "The Anabolic Steroid Family Tree - How Different Steroids Impact Muscle Building & Performance" for an overview of Androgenic Anabolic Steroid Hormones. Just so you know, "steroids" is a term used to describe a category of hormone, both natural and synthetic, based on the location of a carbon atom on their molecular structure. This includes most of the common Anabolic Androgenic Steroid Hormones.PEDs or Performance Enhancing Drigs is a much larger category, which includes the steroids, but also other non-steroidal drugs like clenbuterol, HGH, arimidex, aetc, which are used to get lean or get big.
>>76583389Yes hang on
>>76583389https://annas-archive.org/md5/5210d74d448ed24b27abae464fd7aa94
>>76583701Ask me how I know you're a zoomer idiot
>>76583663Cringe
>>76583389Just learn how tolerance/getting high works with psychs/weed/alcohol, and alcohol will teach you how your liver processes shit as getting drunk is a function of liver toxicity. You really should get to 3pl8sx1 bench bare minimum first and getting way too fat isnt a big deal because youll get gyno anyways.
Plates is a mong who knowz nothing about steroids. Vigourous Steve is better if you want a video. Best is self experimentation. Just buy loads and run different stacks over the rest of your life. Have fun. If you dont stop and do something you enjoy.
>>76583389read the fucking wiki.And anything you read that says anything other than 500mg test for 16-20 weeks, throw it the garbage then go back and read the fucking wiki
>>76583732you're natty and you dont even lift
What's the best case for the easiest post-cycle recovery, not necessarily best gains or overall best health profile? Anavar with HCG into a SERM? Which SERM is best?
I was always lurking the T nation forums and learning about cycles from boomers when I was like 12. I just know a lot of shit about roids due to this research happening in my formative years. Masteron is weird one though because it was hardly ever mentioned back in the day and now it’s everyone’s favorite roid. Seems like roiders are generally smarter than they used to be. Smaller doses and a lot more auxiliary drugs to address side effects. A lot more blood testing going on. Everyone back in the day used to have these insane cycles of like 7 different steroids lol I understand it though. The thought being if I am going to roid I might as well turn into the hulk. Now that TRT is everywhere, it doesn’t have to be so all or nothing with roids
>>76583389Op this is exactly what you want >>76583721 you can read all the other trash they listed here after that book
>>76584489Blast and cruise.
>>76584549Sorry. Other than blast and cruise. I mean what is going to habe the easiest recovery but still involve getting off.
>>76584489>wants all the risks of taking steroids but not get the best gains>asking about bitch oral-only cycles for his first blastJust stay natty because its already clear you're not cut out for this
steroids are fucking over anyway. All the UGLs are out of primo and masteron, which are the only roids worth a fucking shit to add to testosterone. Just get on TRT like a good goy.
>>76584554Fag fag fag tranny tranny tranny
>>76585166ladies and germs the mental state of nattytrannys
>>76585180You literally are on HRT tranny.
Are you trying to learn the pharmacology of them or what. Wikipedia ain't bad for that or sorting by most cited in google scholar. Todd lee on YouTube as well
>>76585216you're projecting
>>76584594masteron isn't anabolic and boomer tierprimo is weak and overpriced, you can use eq insteadget fucked nattycuck
>>76583389https://ugltalk.is/forum for steroid users
>>76583389Wikipedia and Google Scholar+Sci-HubOr if you don't actually give a shit you can read the r/steroids wiki
>>76585356thanks, mr dea agent
>>76584594NPP and anavar?
>>76583389>ChatGPT>Steroid source talk>Youtube
>>76584594plenty of UGL's have primo & mast right now- you must have shit sources
>>76585340EQ blows dick- gains from mast blow it out of the water.
>>76586008NPP makes your joints feel amazing and you'll put on a bit of size/fullness from water retention.Keep your diet in check while running it, it's easy to get moon face on NPP if diet isn't dialed in. Not the best compound for aesthetics but it serves a purpose
>>76586014How much can you run without needing caber? I only use p5p.200 maybe 300mg?
>>76583389Unironically watch More Plates More Dates videos from 5 years ago he has a lot of good videos on the studies of these compounds.
>>76586012EQ is incredible for E2 control for me, also makes eating easier. I love it. Never tried mast or primo though.
>>76586010I wouldn't trust any that do. The raws are not being produced in china, odds of any of those you see for sell being fake is high. More than likely you are just buying tren.
>>76586621>just turn your blood into a syrup bro
>>76583389Trannylovers. Seriously. Look up how females are treated when they want to larp as men. They get steroids to give them a "male" buid, and unlike bodybuilding broscience, effects, both desired and undesired, are statistically tracked.Personally though, I'd stay away from steroids unless you can get them legally (which is easier than you think in many places - just gotta get a doc to sign that you've got "chronically low testosterone levels" and are suffering psychological effects from it). on the less-than-legal market, just as with drugs, you never know what you get. Might be exactly what you ordered, or plastic waste from china, packaged to look just like the real thing.
>>7658664149% hematocrit, not my problemJust drink water, take fish oil, and do cardio.
>>76586655Nattycuck cope used to be amusing, but I'm getting sick of it. It is honestly just so disgusting to read now. Just admit you're too stupid and/or scared to do things the faster, smarter, and superior way.
>>76583389BooksPic related is the best
>>76586666dont listen to satans lies. Roids have a shitload of drawbacks and only a select group of people should be acting as DIY endocrinologists
>>76586666natty muscle is superior because it doesn't rely on constant injections to maintainfaster and more is the only real benefit of roids
>>76586686FUCK I didn't realize the 11th edition covered sarms thank you anon
>>76586690That's fine but you'd have to start pretty early to get the really good resultsIf you didn't you have to catch up, but wisely, without blowing yourself up and your natural production
>>76586687nattycuck delirium literally bends reality from making based quads of truth into le semitic fairytale bad man number cope
>>76586691Why do you want sarm info kek
>>76586621I always fuck up with EQ, I end up crashing my E. I think I was doing a 1:1 ratio test/eq ended up super dry and tearing my hip adductor. I was also cutting very hard while on it so it made me super fucking miserable because I was insanely hungry lol. The vascularity from it was unmatched tho I will say.
>>76586967Because it's all I need and I want to protect my heart Apparently a few of the popular ones are comparable to Anavar in results
>>76584552There is no getting off. Once you're on you're on forever. Sorry kid. Just how it always turns out.
>>76584552>>76588524if you want to do PCT make it a permanent thing otherwise just blast and cruise with hCG
>>76583721Anabolics grow, catabolics shrink
>>76586014Nandrolone is the GOAT for me, like injecting Chad blood with zero negative side effects. I'm going to cruise on as much as I can without hurting my heart forever.
>>76583389Just look at before and afters. As you can see, this man was successful in gaining mass.
>>76588611beforejust test, primo maybe some varafterThat's the tren barrier once you go there, you can't go back
>>76588611before and afters are cherry picked photos and they usually lie about the timeline, use trick camera angles, lighting etc in order to get you to buy something. And now they lie about how much drugs they're taking.How do you not fucking know this? This has been going on in tv commercials and magzine ads for 50 years before the fucking internet.Gullible zoomer retard.
>>76583389Learn chemistry or something nigga you don’t have to take Roids unless your FFMI is really shit lol
>>76588571YehQuick what is androgenic
>>76588597Love NPP as well- I typically cruise on it and haven't had issues with my bloods.200/test150/nppI run it higher when I blast.
>>76589802>haven't had issues with my bloodsThe problem is that it deforms your heart over time and hardens your blood vessels unless you take the right stuff with it - look up the study that used enalapril.
>>76583389Only watch tiktoks, reels, and shorts for is 3-5 hours a week and then claim everyone is on drugs. >>76585412 is about the best advice in the thread.
Steroids arent complicated. You want size and strength as safely as possible?Do my cycle - no injections.Dinabol tablet (blue hearts 10mg) x 2 a day for 3 monthsNolvadex for 2 weeks after. Thats it. Thats the cycle. I was fat as fuck but strong and this simple cycle revealed what was underneath. >pic relatedStats: 6’4 215lbsIts not competition tier but made me strong and shed the fat which was my goal altogether.
>>76590114lol this is so gay. You were willing to order illegal drugs with crypto and give them your full name and address and take said unknown chemicals into your body... But pinning is too scary lmao.
>>76590150I bought the roids from my local pharmacy, knew a corrupt guy that worked there. I dont care for pinning, imo there’s no difference between a heroin shooter and a pinner. Orals got the job done for me, thats all that matters.
>>76588597I also love Nanbdrolone. Feels great and growth is good., But I think it causes heart growth AND makes you stupid. I feel dumber having done a medium dose cruise with it for a year.
>>76590150>>76590173Guy did dianabol for 3 months and is only 215 at 6'4 lol wtf is wrong with these retards today?Just pin and diet right while you're on cycle or actually do an oral cycle of 50mg dianabol +25mg anavar a day. Take clomid and nolva both for pct because without stimulating your pituitary via clomid or enclomiphene afterwards youre just tanking your shit and losing gains that you made.If you're also doing shit like dianabol then you want to maximize the weight gain because of how much extra strength and recovery you get so you need to eat like 4k calories a day minimum with 300g protein.
>>76590735>medium dose cruiseHow much is that and what supplements were you taking?
>>76590831Bitch I was 255 lbs I used my cycle to cut learn to read newfag
>>76590872>do you want strength and size?>noooo I was cutting thougghhhChoose one faggot
>>76590831Clomid is an anti estrogen HcG stimulates your pituitary
>>76590991Clomid helps your test come back quicker in response to the lutenizing hormone you secrete because test lags even though LH is quicker to recover, HcG mimics LH which gives you more of it to signal your balls to produce testosteroneIdeally you'd run HCG and clomid together after every cycle
>>76591016Luteinizing
>>76590831Posts like this are why you should read Anabolics first and not the rest of the garbage in this thread
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>>76590831Oh yeah>Enclomifene (INNTooltip International Nonproprietary Name), or enclomiphene (USANTooltip United States Adopted Name), a nonsteroidal selective estrogen receptor modulator of the triphenylethylene group, acts by antagonizing the estrogen receptor (ER) in the pituitary gland, which reduces negative feedback by estrogen on the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis, thereby increasing gonadotropin secretion and hence gonadal production of testosterone.[3] It is one of the two stereoisomers of What I was doing in this case is just throwing out to see what I know and now I'm using this as a way to both cement my knowledge and learn more4chan is like my personal notepad but with actual people to interact with
>>76591935But it still wasn't the way you meant when you said it stimulates the pituitary