/fit/sisters... our response?
>>76585107>lifting for womenNGMI
im a straight twink, feels good bros
I gave up on women entirely at age 22 after my lifetime of rejections and KHHVdom. As I'm settling in for the nuclear winter that is the rest of my life, I've come to realize that I actually do enjoy exercise. If I didn't, then I wouldn't do it after I've given up all desire to find a girlfriend, get married and have kids.
>>76585154>giving up at 22Holy fuck actual loser. I’m 25, rejected 150+ and not giving up till 30
>>76585107>lifting for women
>>76585160Did you find a girlfriend whom you've married and had kids with?
Should’ve developed a personality instead of a big bulky physique women just want you to look healthy socially acceptable and capable of defending yourself/her and it’s a wide range but looking like a roid monster ain’t it. They want your time and to have fun they don’t want to compete with your time at the gym assuming you’re working full time also. If you’re rich, all of that only slightly applies but if you aren’t attractive be ready to lose half your shit.
>>76585174Nope, I’ve had sex with 3 fat women (plapper) but I think 20s is way to young to call it quits
>>76585107Women don't want this btw
Legitimately, why are more and more people online running this campaign of muscular men being absolutely ugly? It's not just demoralization garbage on here, and it's not restricted to shredded folk, but literally ANY MAN who lifts. Check the quotes and you'll have women vomiting or saying muscles are the most disgusting thing on the planet, while skinnyfat/skinny men are laughing at this dude and calling him an incel. He wasn't even being particularly obnoxious, just making a bad joke at his expense and everyone took the chance to gang up on him and tear him to shreds and assuming things about his personality or hobbies. You even have people calling him a meathead retard in comments when this guy's a Math Olympiad winner. Is lifting seen as a right-wing whistle for these people or what?
>>76585206that guy is a roid freak, also fucked up in the head posting publicly about his "love" and how her bf doesn't deserve her. She should consider restraint order.
>>76585206Lifting is too common now and roids test sarms usage is higher than ever still great to be in strong and good shape but the guys doing it for girls are barking up the wrong tree learning to play an instrument would yield much better pussy returns for the time than lifting would friend of mine learned to play the harmonica and he’s been swimming in that sweet funky stuff since
>>76585206Most adult men are fat, coping, lonely losers with female mentalities of trying to lower every around them to make up for their own insecurities.
>>76585201Being rejected by every woman I've ever liked isn't normal. It's weird and frankly repulsive. And judging by your results for sticking with it, I've literally missed out on nothing. I finished my degree in peace and now I've moved back in with my parents to work from home and I have no intention of leaving. Because for fucking what? To have meaningless sex with fat women? I'd rather kill myself.
>>76585107>drugganIndeed.
>>76585109fpbp /thread
>>76585240>To have meaningless sex with fat women? I'd rather kill myself.made a similar decision but I was able to move out in my early 20s due to housing not being fucked. The plus side is that if you find something you'd rather do than working you could theoretically retire by 40.
>>76585413Well, you probably also made better decisions than I. I mostly just sat around in highschool and college sitting with my dick in my hands feeling sorry for myself (I used to get depressed over rejection). Anyone who was remotely awake at the wheel could have worked part time and saved up money, and chosen a more intense degree that had better opportunities. Enjoying work and life was predicated on someday finding a girlfriend. Once I accepted that I'll never enjoy life and that all work and effort is miserable zero-sum toil regardless, I became a lot happier and leisurely.
>>76585107It's crazy that so many bodybuilders lack awareness like this. He looks gay, all bodybuilders look gay as hell. Injecting yourself everyday, shaving your whole body, taking selfies all the time. Do they really not understand that women can't stand them unless the woman is also a roidtranny?
>>76585154>age 22>after my lifetimebitch.
>>76585109but he clearly made it? he has a 10/10 roid body, hes living the dream.
>>76585154Nigga, you are still a kid, shut the fuck up and go do your homework
>>76585240yup, never become a plapjack.
>>76585462you left out the posing in thongs thing.
>>76585107Women hate men that look like they are proud of themselves. No matter what bitch you date and how much she shits her pants for you, she will sabotage you, get you fat and make you feel miserable. Just pump and dump, nothing else. If she doesnt worship the ground you step on, leave her, no questions required
>>76585485>>76585489That's the age when I could see the pattern and so I hung it up in response. I am 24, and have had no rejections or stress over women in the last two years. Frankly, it would have been better if I just had the resolve to do this at 14 after my first rejection. Being rejected isn't normal. This society is weird. We celebrate rejection like it's a fucking personal best. How about you go fuck yourself? We're still going to end up single and in our thirties, forties, etc at the exact same rate.
>>76585154Women are the real victims of inceldom you misogynist. For every man that doesn't promise to share half his shit with a woman is a woman that is forced to die alone as a wagie.
>>76585107This dude looks like mr olympia and doesnt even seem to be on that much steroids.
>people unironically giving up before 25lmfao like quitting the marathon 15 minutes in. at least the plapper is putting in the effort
>>76585230guy on the right objectively has the harder lifestyle, the other dude in comparison is like a pampered child. Would (you) become homeless just so you can bang married chicks thanks to your stinky Diogenes aura? Didn't think so, that's why you're weak, that's why you're NGMI
>>76585601Having meaningless sex with fat women is gross. Effort without results is also meaningless. The plapper spun his wheels for 3 years since he was 22, and what does he have to show for it? He's placed his arbitrary giving-up age at 30, but yours is 25. I'm guessing that's because you found a girlfriend at or around that time and thus you extrapolated from that experience that it must be reasonable to give up by then? >>76585537Funny part is that I never even identified as an incel. This whole thing is just something that's happened to me. I've been rejected every time I've gone through the cycle of liking a girl, befriending her or trying to get to know her, and then suggesting going out officially. I've been ostracized from normal society. Something tells me that something isn't right here.
>>76585206>Is lifting seen as a right-wing whistle for these people or what?Yes that is one of the factors combined with the fact that people who are chronically online and give enough of a shit to comment tend to gravitate to one end of the extremes and more often support a narrative or an agenda. Just take this place and reddit as examples of this. People with a more moderate view tend not to care enough to comment, much even less make an actual post or video about something. Skewing your perception of what is a common opinion. Also, the protection of anonymity behind a screen also has allowed people to spout insults without consequences. You do not see people say things like that irl unless they are drunk or really stupid because it could land them a beating if they said it to the wrong person. Remember this, what you see on the corners on the internet is not reality and does not reflect the view or the experiences of the common man. That includes this place in particular.
>>76585223I lift and I am an old guy. Lifting improves my mood, increases my ability to get things done, and protects me from dumb injuries. I rolled an ankle off a step yesterday, nothing happened. Harmonica does none of this.
>>76585160>>76585485>>76585489Retarded, the vast majority of relationships happen during high-school. Just like how it's important for your development that you undergo general socialization young, so is experiencing romance in adolsecene. If you've failed to get into a a relation by at least 20, you aren't magically going to change once you hit an arbitrary age. It's obvious that people like that just don't have what it takes to woo a women.
Gave up at 24. Now I'm 35 without any dates or anything since. Born ugly, weak, weird and into a poor family with an absentee father. Women never found me attractive, so I just stopped caring lol. Luv me gym. Simple as.
>>76585107It's because he's obese and deformed. Roid trannies cope by saying body weight doesnt matter if it's lean muscle, but it makes no difference.
>>76585206The issue is all the guys who have no luck with women flocking yo lifting under the delusions that muscles is all it takes to turn you into a chick magnet.
>>76585669>Retarded, the vast majority of relationships happen during high-school.Nope, most social maturation and relationship experinece happens during college age in our 20s, and most people get married late 20s to 30s
>>76585201>I’ve had sex with 3 fat womenYou must realize that mentioning this would do the exact opposite of motivating guys not to give up with dating, right?
>>76585702>NopeYes>Most social maturation People dully crystallize into their own person during that time frame, yes. But there still needed to be a foundation in the youth to build off of.>and most people get married late 20s to 30sNever disagreed with that. But most people obviously don't wait until marriage before finding relationships.
>>76585732>But there still needed to be a foundation in the youth to build off of.Most relationship experience still occurs for people in their 20s and college, not in high school regardless of whether they had a relationship or not. In your teenage years you are still socially inhibited by your surroundings (parents, school, lack of freedom, lack of material possesions) providing less opportunities. Whereas in the stage of emerging adulthood is when you shed free of previous bonds from childhood/teens and get presented with more opportunity. The foundations does not "need to be laid" in teens, because most people postpone their full adult life these days onto later years, and thus lay the foundation. Very few people interact with people that they met in their teens today, most people lay their foundation and experience the vast majority of their relationships in emerging adulthood. Saying you are doomed to a life of isolation because you were a late bloomer is plain wrong.
>>76585107head doesnt match his size he looks like someone went into the character creator and just put the muscle slider to the max and nothing else, also who flexes in a strip mall parking lot at night sure could go for some raising canes right bout now
>>76585709he knows it's not the same anon.if you don't apply ANY game and just autistically ask random women in public to go on a date with them not even bothering to introduce yourself or know their name first. you would still succeed 1:12.but honestly these days it would probably take like 2-3 days to even find 12 reasonably attractive women to hit on.
>>76585232the guy in the OP is trying to tear down the guy who's fucking his woman by saying he can't bench 135, sounds insecure to me
>>76585154Based acceptance anon. I'm happy for you.
>>76585522>Women hate men that look like they are proud of themselves.Yup this. Dude doesn't understand the girl was intimated by his appeal to other women and lack of control over him so she tried to undermine his confidence by dating the opposite 135 lb dude. Reminds me of divorced white women who try to undermine their well off husbands by messing around with a broke black dude. Not because she likes it, but to punish the ex and undermine his confidence.
Liking weak men is natural selection desu.
>>76585160giving up ad 22 is wiser than giving up at 50 after two divorce-rapes. Women are only worth for for casual sex if you are Chad and women actively approach you.
>>76585154Uh huh, let's see if you'll keep that mindset when you reach your 30s
Such is the f8 of all roidtrannys God bless :)
>>76585240If only you were born with a preference for plaphogs. It's the only body type that gets me rock hard.
>>76585154>22 years old>lifetime of rejectionJesus what a doomer faggot. At least women are better off having dudes like you give up.
>>76585107He has that beta face still desu
Whoever says physique does not matter is lying. Of course looking good and healthy matters. It matter for men, it matters for women. The problem with really buff men is that it takes an incredible amount of discipline and dedication to build and keep this kind of look. That's hours and hours a week, add 40 hours work week and it just doesn't seem possible to long term date/marry someone like this.Women think relationships on long term parameters and very few people want to imagine a lifetime of cooking boiled eggs and chicken breasts for dinner.They'll take a dude that works out twice a week and doesn't know what a calorie is most of the time.
>>76585488>hes living the dream.except for the gf
>>76585107A lot of you niggas and incels have such a black and white view on dating. A lot of you guys make up rules in your head on how things work. Believing in shit like Looks, Money, and Status is the end be all. "You should say this" or "you shouldn't say that. " At the end of the day, the rules are made up.This guy has the most cynical interpretation of what women want. Plus this dude looks oddly baby faced and his hair is shit
>>76585206Lifting is now coded for incel strivers, old guys who've "still got it" and especially browns thinking it was the magic key to getting white women. Focus on your cardio now, the weight room has been taken over by Indians.
>>76585798>In your teenage years you are still socially inhibited by your surroundings (parents, school, lack of freedom, lack of material possesions)The public school environment is actually the perfect stage for dating in your youth. First off, it's very casual; most high schools aren't difficult or time-consuming, so it's very trival to find the time and energy to fool around and date. Secondly, the proximity: With no effort, you have a net of female students who can't subject you to some artificial screen process like an online dating profile before they decide if you're even worth talking to. Instead, they actually have to get to know you before swiping left or right. It's make a huge difference. And about the possessions, owning a Bugatti at this age would certainly impressive, but most girls are too naive, inexperienced, or otherwise carefree to worry that much about financial security. Adult dating has much more caveats, even with there technically being more freedom with certain things. Some dudes simply do not have the leverage to make it work at this era in his life.
>>76585107>Druggan for this
>>76585107>/fit/sisters... our response?"Did you even talk to her?"
>>76585107Be encouraged by it. Women are capricious as shit so take your chances with them.
>>76585240Nigga, the only difference between you and other men is that we get rejected more. It's just a numbers game. We like to pretend that it's all a game of cat and mouse with women, but you're just digging through the discount bin hoping someone tagged one of the good ones wrong.
When can we talk about fitness
>>76586975>but you're just digging through the discount bin hoping someone tagged one of the good ones wrong
>>76585107I'm thinking the HR meme comicskinny emo fag is swooned overbuff roider gets the police roasties called on him
>>76585107A roided out body has his niche, but it will attract about 99% gays, 1% girls.
I have a body count of 5. 3 fatties, one 5/10, and one actual hot chick. I was in my early 20s and twinkmaxxed and she was crazy and randomly decided to fall in love with me. I got lucky and you didn't. I literally did nothing at all and this 10/10 lived in my bed for like two years. I'm sorry for the unfair distribution of luck. It is completely unfair. I'm physically incapable of gaining muscle btw. I can't OHP 100 lbs.
>>76585154I also gave up at 22 and im 32 now. Don't become me. cant recommend
>>76585154>t.
>>76586459>lived in a desert all my life >cmon bro, just put on a shaman outfit and do the rain dance, we can make this land fertileCalling me a doomer faggot for just relaying the simple facts of the matter? If I told you I could predict that the sun is going to set tonight, you'd call me a doomer. >>76587145Gave up on women, or gave up on life? I gave up on women because it's clear they gave up on me. I have no intention of living my life poorly.
>>76585154You think you are deep faggot? Learn to play the game before you give up.
>>76588731>I'm gaming bro, I'm playing the game by caring about trying to approach women who've made it clear that they're not interested. No I don't have a girlfriend whom I'm going to marry and have kids with but that doesn't matter because I've fucked a few fat ugly women We got a professional 4d chess game theory grandmaster over here
>>76588813Lmao you gave up at 22 and act like some wise sage to cover up you’re a subhuman You have no right to shit on anyone
>>76588830Buddy, I'm just as middling on the IQ spectrum as you are. Nobody wise is posting on 4chubs in their twenties. You've just invested your personality and identity too much into this negative EV ritual. I'm not shitting on you, I'm just walking away from it.
>>76585107what was that one tweet making the rounds on normgroid twitter a few years ago? something like>aye nice deadlift bro but she just let me hit cus I'm goofythere's some truth to that ngl
>>76588868Being an oofy doofy / Jestermaxxing. Now I think the kids call it "being performative".
>>76588813Im a virgin too and it's not manly to complain or give up. Keep grinding you are too young for anything.
>>76585154>I gave up on women entirely at age 22You're still going through your emotionally turbulent years and have no proper perspective on life. When you hit 30+ you'll likely become far more calm and clear in your thinking. This happens to most men.Keep trying. No one is coming to save you, you have to save yourself. You think you're given up, but you still make posts like these to anon strangers as a covert means of emotional support and reassurance, so you haven't really given up. Stop lying to yourself and keep trying.
>>76585154>I gave up on women entirely at age 22 after my lifetime of rejections>lifetime>22Nigga please
>>76588872The kids will always have a new subversive term for just doing what it is to be a fucking human being
>>76587123Why did the relationship end
>>76588931I haven't associated with women with any anticipation of dating them in years and I don't intend to start again big dog. >>76588937>live your entire life >rejected by everyone all the way up to the present That's what I would call a lifetime of being rejected >>76588941Saying it's "just about being a fucking wholesome human being" is more subversive though because it belies the intent. Implying that it's normal or natural to contrive to earn female affection is some pretty tricky shit. Whereas the word performative really strikes through to the heart of the meaning. I think that one's here to stay. I guess it activates the primal caveman instinct to put the shaman costume on and dance for the rain gods, even if you've grown up in a desert and your life has been nothing but an unbroken drought. >>76588998Well, it was of course because he just wasn't being a fucking human being.
>>76589015You know man, I'm on your side as another zoomer in a similar situation. But mass replying and defending your view so hard just seems to me like you're trying to convince yourself that you're right. And I don't blame you, your hormones are peaking at 22 and you're trying to fight your biology, your body is telling you to breed and your logic is telling you to avoid it. You need this type of hard convincing to get yourself to accept it, and you immediately get defensive at any pushback. It's just so obvious you're trying not to convince others but yourself that you're making the right decision.IMO, the correct play is to just casually keep trying to bang chicks, and then give up at like 30 when your sex drive naturally starts to fall off, and you can spend the rest of your life focusing on hobbies. As it stands, your body is telling you one thing and your mind another, and this lack of harmony is making your life really difficult. Just accept that you need women because of hormones, like the rest of us have already done, and give up on them later when you don't anymore.
>>76586847Sorry for the late reply my dude, I was sleeping. > most high schools aren't difficult or time-consuming, so it's very trival to find the time and energy to fool around and date. Secondly, the proximity: With no effort, you have a net of female students who can't subject you to some artificial screen process like an online dating profile before they decide if you're even worth talking to. Instead, they actually have to get to know you before swiping left or right. It's make a huge difference.The same goes for college. High school is no different in this regard. Add in the parties and extra social activites outside of school that happens in college and you get even more opporutnity, than what High school provides. >And about the possessions, owning a Bugatti at this age would certainly impressive, but most girls are too naive, inexperienced, or otherwise carefree to worry that much about financial security.Yeah I am not really referring to financial security as much as I am referring to material independence and freedom here. Like staying at your own place, which makes dating a lot easier logistically. It is easier to bang girls in your rented studio apartment than what it is at your parents beach home. >Adult dating has much more caveats, even with there technically being more freedom with certain things. Some dudes simply do not have the leverage to make it work at this era in his life.And neither do some dudes in the earlier eras of their life. People mature at different ages both biologically and socially. Teenage dating comes with caveats as well, just different ones. Your claim that you cannot date sucessfully if you did not experience teenage romance is not true. It used to be that the foundation of your adult life was laid during teens. But that paradigm has shifted these days, and most people lay their foundation, do their personal growth during emerging adulthood. A concept that did not even exist a couple of decades ago.
>>76585206People online in general are just very jaded and eager to pile on and make fun of others
>>76589048>>76589048>mass replying That's when you (You) an entire thread in succession before saying something.>IMO, the correct play is to just casually keep trying to bang chicks,As stated ITT, in my opinion, I'd rather kill myself than have meaningless sex with ugly fat bitches after asking out 10, 100, 1,000... women. This is unnatural, it's fucking inane, and I just don't accept going along with it anymore.>this lack of harmony is making your life really difficult.You know what really made my life difficult? Stressing over becoming friends and well-acquainted with women under the naive assumption that I'd meet one that reciprocates. >Just accept that you need women because of hormonesI said nothing about not needing or wanting women. Obviously I do. Equally obvious is the futility of approaching them, as evidenced by my personal life and this thread, WHICH you are invited to change in an instant if you want to prove me wrong once you're done with the perfidious mollycoddling tone and the little anime girl meme.
>>76585107>>76585206It does appear to be that a lot of women aren't into guys with huge muscles. The only two women irl (sister and ex) I've talked to about this seem to have the same opinion. They say guys like Sam Sulek don't appeal to them at all, ex said she'd rather have a skinny/normal looking guy than one who looks like Sam Sulek. And sister and ex both expressed they like more toned looking physiques, like the kind you see in calisthenics bros. Pic rel is what ex claimed to be the perfect physique she finds the hottest for a man. I saved it from some board on here long ago, it's some anon's. So it seems like women like muscles that look big but not huge like with bodybuilders. They like physiques that could be categorized as 'athletic'.But here's the thing - even if most women might not like huge muscles, it doesn't mean that there don't exist women out there who probably get their panties drenched just being in the presence of guys with physiques like in OP's pic. It might just be that they're uncommon. The opposite could also be true that women who dislike bodybuilders could be over-represented online (maybe even irl) due to reasons. But the point is that it's very likely that if you go out there, you are bound to run into women at some point who will be turned on like crazy by your body. Think about it in terms of your own self and your preferences towards women. Like for myself for example, I probably wouldn't date or marry a bimbo or a girl with gigantic, oversized titties. But there ain't no way I'll pass up on the opportunity to fuck them. I find them hot and I'd love to have sex with them even if I may not consider them ideal. Women are probably the same.
>>76589048>bunch of insecure retards get weirdly triggered at someone pulling themselves out of a race they consider pointless and actually find it to be a positive and peaceful experience for them>respond to said retards and suddenly you're being 'defensive'
>>76589339>someoneits you bro, and shes right. if you really didnt care you wouldnt be defending your position two days after the factwe all see thru it bb
>>76585154>age 22little zoom you are barely out of the starting zone LOL
>>76585107More like Drug-And, amirite?
>>76589343Not even him. Just someone who has a little more than two braincels that can be deployed at the same time to understand the world. Why does it trigger you so much that someone took a different path or approach to life than you did? Are you sure it isn't because you are the insecure one who feels the need to tear someone down to convince yourself you aren't doing anything wrong?
>>76589359im not jealous or trying to tear him down, i'm the guy above who is older than him and plapjackmaxxinggiving up at 22 is retarded, you're not even a full adult
>>76589369Maybe giving up is the wrong way to phrase it since he actually seems to be at peace with his decision. But how can you call his decision retarded when you don't even fully understand why it is he's made that choice? Plapjackmaxxing is cool and all but not everyone is into plappies and other similarly low hanging fruit.
>>76589369So when is the cutoff point? Being an ostracized single man at 30? But to get there, you were also an ostracized single man at 29. And so on. Comparing our lives, there really isn't any tangible difference between our quality of life we've endured from age 22 onwards, except it's a point of pride for you that you stumbled into the privilege of using a pile to masturbate yourself a few times. I'm in the same place you were at 24 right now. So, are you telling me that it would have been different for me if I stopped fixating on it even when that wasn't the case for you?
>>76589048Based 4 Chan dad
>>76585107idk bro, I'm married to a good woman who's a great mom to our two kids. pretty happy at the moment.
>>76589776I'm recently divorced, but happy because after I got married I found out that I absolutely fucking hated living with other people under the same roof. Waited until my son became a legal adult, tried to be a decent father, I wasn't absent or hiding at work, it's alright, but also hated it a lot. We're still friends, no hostility or bad blood, but fuck me it's so liberating.
>>76588998Basically what this guy said >>76589015I just wanted to play video games with my friends and didnt know what it would be like to be truly alone. Now we've all moved to different parts of the world and they have careers and families and I'm alone. I wasn't thinking of the future and wasn't considering the value of what I had so I pushed her away and ignored her repeatedly until she finally gave up. The kind of reasoning error an early 20s unformed young human is likely to make.
>>76585154I lost my virginity at 22. Never give up. waagmi
>>76585107>our response?stop "falling in love" like a teenagerlove doesn't work like thatonly consider giving affection to the females who make themselves available to you those who don't literally aren't candidates, they're not available, they might as well not exist
>>76589999such digits paired with such a truth nuke
>>76589796Yeah, it can definitely be rough at times. I know it's more than just that, but their menstrual cycles really throw a wrench into the works. I for one love it, they all went on vacation and I couldn't take off work for a week this one time. It was so fucking quiet at home I was going nuts. My two kids are really young so they're always bouncing around and making noise. Without the home felt like a house. Deathly quiet. It was kind of fucked. But yeah, it's definitely not for everyone. Good on you for not getting assraped and having your life ruined by the divorce.
>>76585488>488close>made it>oneitis>doomerismhis fembrain is still cucked
>>76585537you describe this expecting empathy but it has been withheld so long by women that we were told equal peers, and most men (not even me actually) were lifelong powerless; that the bitterness and anecdotal lived experiences deafens any ability to empathize. Now what of the men who had "success" well they learned quite quickly what was required to "keep it" (staying together with a wife who cheated for kids, watching your kids become retarded at school and being raised by her)women fall out of love, men fall in love but will ALWAYS have to "get over it"
>>76585545>doesnt even seem to be on that much steroidslol
>>76585107Women are not as impressed with muscles as men are. That's just how it is.
>>76585206Being jacked doesn't mean you're automatically attractive.This guy reeks of insecurity.>Obvious roid use>Awkward forced smile>Showing off muscles out of nowhere>Literally hiking up shorts to show quads>Showing off BMW, as if anyone actually caresThere is a lot of men that do this. They do every trick in the book to try to hide their insecurities and it makes it even more obvious how much they are overcompensating.Lift weights. Take care of your body. Find peace with who you are. Be yourself, stop worrying what other think. This is true confidence, that others can perceive. This is what makes you attractive to others.