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You bunch of Cheating frauds!

What you on? how does it feel?
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>estrogen enthanate
>progesterone
>finasteride
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inject ze microbes
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>>76585392
Cruising on some test, hgh, tadalafil and L-Carnitine
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There is basically 0 reason not to roid

I don't understand people who do not want to increase their performance

All this crying over baseball players roiding while putting up the best performances of all time
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I like ment+sarms with a small test base
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Is .7ml too much to be injecting per shot into my delt? Using a 1/2" 27ga needle my PIP is usually 3-4 days and I get a bit of redness and bruising. No pain during injection though

Gonna try VG but not sure if I should still be using a half inch for that
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inject ze bacteria
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>>76585392
Right now only trt and 2iu gh and healing peptides.
Ruptured my achillies while on masterone so I am never touching that shit again.
Felt fucking great on it though, gains are awesome but not worth being horrifically injured obviously.
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Just watched a video about steroids in baseball and when Mcguire takes his shirt off in the locker room for an interview and you see his back and triceps he looks like he's a bodybuilder

How much shit were they actually taking because weight training was unpopular at the time but mcguire and Sosa basically looked like gym bros

Maybe they did lift more than other players but they were significantly more massive, hyper responders or just way more test than has been reported
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>>76587271
i do 2ML in my delts
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>doesnt add the forward slashes
shit thread
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>>76587588
What size needle?
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I will never understand feeling ok with yourself knowing you cheated to get there. Then again, there's people alive like keir and soros.
Does blasting fill the hole in your soul torn away by all the self hatred? Or is it all temporary relief coupled with body dysmorphia?
What makes you want to inject substances into your body in the first place?
Maybe it's just some inadequacy from childhood? Maybe you look at it like simply smoking a cigarette? Idk
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inject ze heavy metals
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>>76587644
If you could take something to be superhuman for atleast a few months per year, why would you not do it

I believe there is more self hatred in the natty mindset, you never allow yourself to experience the greatest power you can get
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>>76587644
You have a small child’s sense of fairness. I am not even a big fan of roiding I think the risk/reward ratio only makes sense if you are some kind of loser but lol there is no such thing as cheating
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The natty seethe, it's making me so hard
I'm gonna cum
Best part of these threads
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>>76587694
No one tell this retard about hplc.
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>>76585392
going to probably be ordering some HCG (yes, I know, it's not a steroid) and some NPP quite soon. Kind of want to see if nand is right for me as test makes me feel off even at low doses.
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>>76587644
I don't care about cheating, I want to look better naked than I could while lifting natty.
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>>76587694
lmao
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I blasted 300mg test for 3 years then 200mg for 1 year and now 175mg for 1 year.
I don't want kids. How would HCG assist me?
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>>76580818
Anyone?
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How likely is a bad test result from labcorp? I took an ultra-sensitive E2 and got 7, but I took it cause I had high e2 symptoms. Did some stuff to raise it like a little Dbol and a big test injection (300 mg) and eventually felt a little better for all of 2-3 days. Took another test and didn’t want to take an AI until I knew for sure if it was high or low, but it’s been 9 fkng days and still waiting on result. Stopped waiting, have taken 1 mg adex total past 3 days, and the emotional sides got way worse. Convinced myself I’m in love with a hooker I’m friendly with and been inconsolable all day over imaginary scenarios of her OD’ing. Zero history of something like this wtf is going on.
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>>76587950
yeah you crashed your shit, low/high E2 have interchangeable symptoms in a lot of guys. Just ride it out, go easy on the AIs next time.
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>>76587950
Like this anon said >>76588267
High E2 and low E2 have interchangeable symptoms between people since it's genetic. A lot of high E2 symptoms I get when my E2 is low and vice versa. Really you can land on the fact that if you're getting sides, then it's either crashed or too high. Over time, you will then find what specific ones are to you. For example, I get extremely tired and lethargic when I am high E2 (where as some it's low E2).

Being bloated/holding onto water and gyno are probably the only sides you can usually confidently land on that your E2 is too high, and achy joints are probably the only one you can confidently land on being E2 is too low in my experience and reading regardless of genetics.

Stop taking AIs for awhile and maybe pin some more test for a little. Good luck anon.
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>>76587271
Generally no but individual response is everything. For VG I highly recommend getting 1” needles or you will accidentally inject subQ and likely get a painful lump. You can get 25 gauge that aren’t much bigger than 27 for the 1” needles
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>>76587588
Dont listen to this guy 2ml is way too much for delts unless you’re 240lbs of muscle
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>>76588347
If it leaks out use a longer needle.
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>>76588324
Thing is the low number never made sense. I was on 500 test 200 eq and feeling like shit. I didn’t even use any AI until I got tired of waiting on labcorp. Plus, the emotional sides aren’t interchangeable are they? I thought no e2 made you a zombie. I think ima just cut out the eq this would be a lot easier if I didn’t have to wait 2 fkng weeks for a sensitive E2 test. The regular one is like 3 days turnaround
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>>76588537
Are you retarded? EQ can crash your E2, just like Primo. What were your other hormone blood markers? The emotional sides are clearly there with low E2 just by how bitchy you type dude

>Plus, the emotional sides aren’t interchangeable are they? I thought no e2 made you a zombie. I think ima just cut out the eq this would be a lot easier if I didn’t have to wait 2 fkng weeks for a sensitive E2 test

Lmao
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SO you faggots really think raloxifene is useless? It seems like the perfect drug that specifically prevents you from getting gyno without risking an actual estrogen crash. I think you guys are old boomers stuck in your ways or something
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I'm going to take 60mg test and 50mg deca for life as soon as my blood work results come back in October.
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>>76586816
most people have no business roiding. Just look at the retards here
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>>76588565
raloxifene is almost useless in the presence of estradiol, it only works when estradiol is very low to begin with
best thing to do is combine raloxifene with an AI to reverse gyno
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DO NOT inject 1 gram of test and 600mg primo right before bed.
Holy shit its like meth.
First I notice my heart pounding then feel it in my head which is a sign that my bp is at least 150. Just laid there wide awake wondering what's going then I realized it was the pin. Got about 3 hours of sleep the whole night lol.
4 weeks into blasting 2 grams test and as much primo as I can take without getting low E2.
I'm adding 5 lbs to my bench every session, so 10lbs a week.
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>>76588679
using enanthate btw
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>>76587769
>he trusts labs from an illegal drug seller
>dry labs at best
sucker born every minute
now inject ze paramecium
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>>76588878
Inject my cum into your faghole bitchboy. I rape twinks like you in the locker room showers for breakfast
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>>76589041
just hope there's not another pandemic cupcake
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>>76585392
Living in Australia
Can't find a source
I go to the gym at 2am so there's no jacked gymbro in the bathroom selling test-e
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Any benefit to taking HGH on rest days above like 3-4 IU?
Is it better to up to HGH after hard workout days?

Does anyone adjust their growth dosage day to day or just keep the same?
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Not roiding is like playing an rpg and never drinking a potion
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>>76589090
pretty sure you want to maintain levels, I don't think people up their dose based upon the day.

Some people will mess with their doses when they're in a health phase vs a growth phase.
Example health phase 2-4iu's
Growth phase 8-10ius
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>>76587727
Sure. You can go outside and eat a fistful of dirt and no one can tell you otherwise, freedums n murica n sheeeit.
You can be a super hero without that. Ex: my 15 year old kid still thinks I'm their hero, so thats just a cope to make yourself feel more adequate. A very childish way to look at your adult body.
>>76587740
And you have the typical adults callousness that would lead you to destroy yourself by corporate means. Good job fucking faggot. How many times have you watched wolf of wall Street? (Please don't answer this, it's rhetorical shit talking to you)
>>76587797
So, body dysmorphia it is then


Welp, considering that three posts aren't the same anon, you fuckin retards are cooked and roidtrannies obviously hate yourselves in the mirror like a fucking woman raised by a single whore mother. You guys are fucked. Please reconcile with yourself.
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>>76587644
this is dyel cope lol
it's always the people that look like absolute shit that are critical of actual /fit/ people that want to push limits
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>>76589667
There's a very good and real chance that I could power clean and press your body and also outrun you. E-pissing contest is ever constant. You're just impatient and weird.
Just because you can doesn't mean you're super cool you did. Most women will look at you in disgust and you can't compare yourself to other men now because you're a synthetic blasting freak. You can like to others about your fake natty status, but the lies will be with you when you sleep. You didn't earn shit and are in fact a bigger pussy than a typical roidtranny.
Doesn't matter if you stack 20lb a muscle in a year because of gear. You'll just lose it when you stop going to the gym and your nuts shrivel leaving you will single digit free test numbers.
But yeah, coping so hard because I don't wanna inject Chinese bathtub juice into my body that was made for bovine muscle growth.
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>>76586816
>increase their performance
performance in what? I do not care about performance for performamce sake. Also my self worth is not tied to performance in such a large degree as it seems to be for you
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>>76589638
>t. proud of his inability to look good
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Does anyone know a rule of thumb or just the proper way to think about HCG in terms of a TRT cruise dose?

Like lets say you want to do 150mg of test plus 50 IU of HCG a week. Is that going to be roughly equivalent to 200 mg of test a week? Or 250? Can you add your natty test level to your expected blood concentration from 150 and say that will probably be your new level? Or is the shit just an impossible chaotic system and its so hard to predict that there is no rule of thumb?
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>>76590120
Yesterday a co worker said I was getting bigger
This morning a lady said I was very handsome
Your fucked up brain can't comprehend your own body dysmorphia kek
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>>76589841
Performance in literally every area of life if you have basic anger management skills, fitness, health, motivation, etc etc
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>>76589638
You 15 year old son can't accurately determine heroism because he is emotionally attached to you

If you left to get milk and never came back he would still love you

You could be more heroic than you currently are
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>>76587644
It feels worse to get old and seeing your progress stall despite having diet, exercise, and sleep dialed in. Been on 250mg test/week and 6iu GH/day for 4 weeks now and I've lost fat, and gained more size and strength than I did in the 18 months before that. I don't feel like I need a nap every afternoon now.
Yeah I want to look good, but mainly I just don't want to feel old. Why not make myself feel like I'm in my 20's again?
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6 months ago:
https://youtu.be/C8B_XxkXg-w (shirtless about 3 minutes in)
Now:
https://youtube.com/v/781GWeAL5qA
Achievable natty (not even TRT) in this timeframe?
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>>76589572
>plus 30 points strength
>plus 10 points charisma with the opposite sex
>5% chance of death from heart failure
>random chance of sexual encounter with a transsexual
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>36 going on 37
>married to 8/10 wife
>575 squat, 350 bench, 585 DL
>natty my whole life

Is it time to gear up boys? What's a good first cycle? Should I just get a doctor to give me TrT?
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>>76590429
Sorry your dad was a piece of shit and your mom is a whore
>>76590501
Hmm I get this sentiment. Then again I want a 12inch dick but I'm not getting dick surgery lmao you are what you are and you aren't what you aren't. I may consider this when I hit the wall if I do. I won't judge you for that as long as you're healthy.
>>76590665
Good numbers, but no. Maybe stem cell healing therapy for your fucked knees, elbows, wrists, shoulders, ankles, back, neck if anything.
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>>76590665
>time to gear up
Only you can say, but sounds like you're doing well already from what seems like a humble brag post
>first cycle
500mg test for 20 weeks, r/steroids wiki is unironically decent for newb questions and research
>trt
Don't bother unless you are low t already
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>>76590890
Shut up wimp, no one's talking to you
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>>76590893
Well I guess the questions is am I close enough to my natty potential / inevitable drop in test and strength for gear to be a reasonable option?

I don't need it to get bitches or get strong is the point. But I would love to start throwing some video game numbers up
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Anyone else getting insane cramps since hopping on? I can't even stretch in the morning because as soon as i move my arms to the sides my pecs contract like crazy. I drink plenty of water maybe I'm missing electrolytes or something?
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>>76590994
Taurine, potassium and magnesium are typically the ones that fix it and/or that people forget about
Everyone seems to only think about sodium for electrolytes
Add to that gear can make you deficient in potassium/magnesium
Taurine is specifically good if you are taking anavar too
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>>76590632
Based
>>76590890
My dad was a homosexual piece of shit but my mom is very chaste honestly
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>>76590985
How often are you adding weight?
Is that rate okay with you?
Are you willing to spend time and money to make it faster possibly at the cost of health if done incorrectly or too quickly?
I got my initial t tested at 38 and it was 280, started trt at 42 for about 6 months then just said fuck it and started blast and cruising
All that shit is highly individual as is your ability to tolerate gear
That's why I said you have to answer that question for yourself
Go read about it at the very least then you'll be better equipped to make that choice

tldr just pin some test, faggot
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>>76591036
I am already taking magnesium and taurine for sleep and no effect, I guess potassium is the missing one. Isn't there a risk with potassium that it'll stop your heart etc?
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Deca
Test primo mast blend
Ment
Proviron
10-20iu hgh
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>>76590890
It's worse than just hitting a wall. when I jumped on t, the amount I needed to eat to not lose muscle was just making me fat and I wasn't making any gains. I would bulk slowly, maybe gaining .25 lbs a week but it was all fat at the end of the day. If I ate less, I lost strength. Then when it was time to cut, I would lose a bit of muscle every time. It was literal negative progress. I Could deal with that for a while but when my energy and libido took a shit, it was time to make a change
My lipids are actually better than before since I am not having to eat so much to make gains. A1c is down, fasting glucose is down, and all my liver, kidney, and inflammation markers are the same. I'm not saying go stick a needle in yourself for the rest of your life, just that there is no reason for anyone to feel old bc of low t symptoms. It's not going to affect your health negatively if you are already living a healthy life
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So how do you properly choose and dial in your arimidex dose without crashing estrogen?

And why do i never see any useful information like this in this thread. Its always just seething natties and roiders talking shit. Hardly anything constructive
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inject ze microplastics
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Are peptide sources allowed? What’s a good US peptide site I don’t wanna wait 3 months
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>>76591114
Don't take enough to stop your heart?
Or do i guess, sounds not so bad
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>>76591379
It gets easier when you realise youre not chasing a specific e2 number

You’re chasing ‘no high e2 symptoms’

If you’re total test is 3000, free test is 600, and you’re e2 is 100 … but you have no symptoms, no itchy nips, no bloat, no ED… then there is no reason to take Ai… high e2 has benefits until it has symptoms, and it works in balance with the high test so typically you can tolerate much higher e2 when your test is higher.

So say you’re getting the high e2 symptoms, you’d start with one singular low dose of ai and see if it helps over the next 3 days (a dose like 0.25 or 0.5 arimidex, or 6.25mg or 12.5mg aromasin)

Then, presuming it helped… wait until those symptoms return…

If they return 7 days later, you know you need to take your dose again. And then if you want to make the ride a bit smoother, you take that dose and divide it up more frequently. Say you found out you need to take 0.5mg arimidex every 7 days to avoid symptoms returning… then you could decide to take 0.25mg every 3 or 3.5 days to achieve the same dose. This way you’re just keeping the symptoms at bay and not crashing your e2

You might have symptoms at 90 e2, but not at 70 e2, half an arimidex a week split in two might get you there…but don’t then look at the blood test and see that you’re at 70 and somehow decide you need it to be 30, if you feel fine at 70 you feel fine

On 500 test I think you’ll find that 0.5 arimidex 2x a week or 12.5mg aromasin 2x a week should not crash you,
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>>76591720
>Then, presuming it helped… wait until those symptoms return…
You can expect 24 hours later for the AI to have done its job and increase the dose if symptoms have not gone away? Or would you give it more or less time?

Thanks for the guide I will screen shot this
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>>76591805
Yes it should help a little after 24 I would think, but I’d give it a few days before you make a decision on taking more.

At the end of the day, high e2 symptoms might feel like shit while you get it sorted out, but you’re not going to get gyno overnight… if your nips are itchy or whatever then you’ve spotted the symptoms of high e2 nice and early and you can start figuring it out. But you can take the bloat and a bit of ED, it’s not the end of the world while you find a dose that works

Do your research into arimidex vs aromasin though, similar results but a different mode of action, it seems the, aromasin can definitely work effectively for longer periods of time inbetween doses than arimidex.

Also consider your test injection schedule… 500mg a week in two injections every 3.5 days is a massive bolus of test, 250mg entering the blood is going to cause higher rates of aromatization than if you split the 500mg every other day, 140mg EOD is still 500 a week but gives much more stable blood levels and should help with e2 levels also
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Anyone go from being a bitch about needles to actually enjoying the process of pinning?

It's not so much the pain, in fact the most satisfying pins for me are the clean painless ones, but the ritual and kinda just raw aspect of it is fun.

Thank god I never tried IV heroin as a kid or I would have been fucked
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Ligandrol is literally anavar except it is not liver toxic, doesn't fuck with the prostate, is not an illegal drug and might have unknown mystery side effects due to being new.

Kind of starting to get the hype with sarms after reading up.
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>hear that enclo can give you gyno
>read that none of the findings are conclusive
If it IS true and I get tiddies, how do I reverse it?
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>>76592792
I would think it’s extremely unlikely to give you gyno even if you are pretty fat. Maybe if you combine it with finasteride or something it would give you gyno.

I think enclomephebe is a fools gold compound. It will raise your T but it fucks with IGF-1 and SHBG in such ways that you don’t get the main benefits you want from high T which is nonstop gains and boners.

Anyway if you get gyno signs just stop taking the shit. Maybe take an OTC supplement like DIM you can buy off Amazon for nothing. I assume that would be up your alley.
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What is the best strategy to 'feel more testosterone-y' given the following natty bloodwork:

>Test 800 ng/dl
>Free Test 140 pg/ml
>FSH 2 miu/ml
>LH 3 miu/ml
>Estradiol 20 pg/ml

I am 37 and these have pretty much been the readings for the past 15 years. Test always on the higher side of normal and FSH/LH on the lower end. But I still have near nonexistent libido, endurance, sense of confidence or wellbeing, can't put on or keep muscle, none of the testosteroney things. Basically just a skinnyfat loser hikkineet. Do I just slam T? Do I take HCG? AIs? Do I have to do something to boost the androgen receptors in my brain? I clearly am not hypogonadal, it seems like if anything my hpta is throttling the balls because it's reading too much T/estrogen already.
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>>76593013
get tested for androgen insensitivity syndrome
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>>76588679
what in the fuck? hahaha! damn, i bet. why don't you pin ed?
>>76589090
what other anon said. pin same iu ed
>>76589126
the joys of indian pharma
>>76590225
no rule of thumb. pin it, and see
my sister in law said i look intimidating
>>76590501
same. pct'd for surgery, and i'm hating going back to natty. cant sleep worth a shit anymore
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>>76591119
why so much hgh without slin? hittin 20iu i'd think you'd be takin advantage
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>>76585392
Does anyone know if the cow eartags seep much into non organic or whatever beef? Im always skeptical of cuts of meat where the individualfibers are way too big, and apparantly the ranchers inject and put more eartags in(dissolvable by cartilidge/smooth muscle fibers and if they use orals is anyones guess) mostly right before slaughter to save money. I guess you could also tell if rougher cuts are especially tough since id guess smooth muscle fibers just expand more in size. Apparantly gh is only injectable like tren/test which is mostly what they give cows AND if anything would reduce the actual amount of overall testosterone in muscle(speculation).

One time i ate a bunch of fast food for a week to see if i gained more size and i honestly didnt gain much noticeable size or feel any different.
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>>76593102
Im not quitting beef but i know its apparantly normal to get injectables to 170f or something so it mixes with the oil or something which is why injecting into legs makes it look like synthol. And orals apparantly have a much higher temp before the compounds are desteoyed, however this apparantly can cause toxic substances to form and causes necrotic tissue like krokodil or fucked up veins and reactions that cause organ damage retardation etc.

I wanted to see if any roiders more well versed on the subject were aware of if eating red meat consistently is the cause for my gains or if i have to slow cook to internal temp of 200+ for a while and have to skip out on steaks and go for slow cooked/organic only and miss out on vitamins and shit.
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>>76585392
500mg test e + 5iu HGH + 80mg epistane
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>>76588679
why are you injecting once a week? you retarded monkey
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Snapped my shit up again with hyrox despite lots of stretching and light weights ending a killer 2 year run of heavy exercise.

Going to cycle when recovered as honestly fuck losing all this progress. What's the current UK situation regarding legality and seizing deliveries? I know test made here is okay but HCG and others?
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>>76589813
you responded within an hour with this essay lol, you're definitely a coping dyel
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>>76587847
>blasted 300mg test
>blasted
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Supplements to ward off prostate growth. Any worth fucking with?
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>>76592600
It doesn't have near the potency of anavar. And the more you take to try and get anabolic levels of results, the less selective it is and the more sides you get. When I first go into this I did a Ligandrol daily + anavar preworkout and it worked out alright I guess.
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>>76590963
Say that to my face irl rooster
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>>76594142
saw palmetto
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I WANT SOURCES!

SOURCES FOR RETA IN EUROPE!
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>>76594200
Yeah all the official literature makes it look like the perfect roid but anecdotal reports are pretty mixed. Anecdotal reports of anavar are almost always either positive or “it’s not as strong as injectables so it’s a ripoff”
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>>76594200
LGD fucks your bone density. People thought it was good for it but it actually lowers your E and density dropped in those using it.

A good example of why SARMs are inferior to actually tested steroids. They're unknown.
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>>76593061
>get tested for androgen insensitivity syndrome
this is interesting, never heard of it before. Some of it sounds spot on but I also have phat nuts and 7" dick so not sure how much of it applies. I already have my genome sequenced so I'd just need to know the snps and I could plug this shit into promethease and find out. Having a hard time finding the relevant genes though.
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This is the guy telling you to stop doing pussy doses
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>>76594560
>Having a hard time finding the relevant genes though.
It's literally the only gene this board understands to be theoretically druggable (except at least sort of the weird edge case mutation it's gaslighting into believing you have): the androgen receptor.
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>>76594142
Saw palmetto, stinging nettle, lycopene(from tomatoes)
Realistically you’ll get more benefit from avoiding high doses or long cycles of gear that raise dht more than usual(e.g. mast, proviron, winny, even var and wet compounds including test), being moderate with hgh and controlling e2 properly
There's a bunch of shit down the inflammation rabbit hole too so supps that reduce that might but I'm even more skeptical about those, curcumin comes to mind
It's a spectrum too so I'm not saying don't take test or mast but it's something to think about before a balls out blast of grams of either for half a year just to be a swole ass waiter
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>>76594604
Bad look for opti, selling underdose gear to natties
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>>76594697
Also kaempferol found very concentrated in capers has activity against prostate cancer fairly comparable to a lot of the troon chemos out there.
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>>76594643
Not really sure what you're saying. A receptor isn't a gene. I don't really think I have AIS or else I'd likely have high LH along with high test and I'd probably have a baby cock. But looking into it, it looks like there are a shit ton of genetic mutations that might contribute to an impaired androgen receptor so it'd be cool if there was a list of them I could just check against my genome (literally sitting right here on my hard drive) and see if there are any hits.
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>>76594816
>A receptor isn't a gene.
It's a protein receptor that's literally encoded by the AR gene.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_receptor#Genetics
ACTN3 is a more commonly mutated target that leads to low AR expression in muscle and at least theoretically could have a deranged China readthrough therapy: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0006291X18312828
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Any 1 have a source for sema/tirz/reta and BAC water
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Week 5 of tren. haven't cummed in 4 days, feeling a bit weird but nothing awful. The carb heat is crazy, feels like you have an oven inside your head
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>>76593353
when did I say I was injecting once a week? You literally made that part up in your head just so you can get mad, make yourself feel superior, and call me names.
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>>76585392
300mg test, 200mg primo, 20mg var everyday

Feel pretty great. Bulked for 2 weeks at the start with anadrol on top of this stack to put some size on and now I'm cutting. Feeling like I am still getting bigger but also leaner. Blasted 500mg test and 750mg test before, and cruised for about 9 months before hopping on this about a month ago. Post break up and feeling good. Crushing pussy and they all say something along the lines of

>you look so good fucking me

so I'm doing something right. Libido and motivation are peak rn.
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>>76595693
So that means you're injecting more than 2 grams a week of test and 1+ gram of primo. I doubt you're an olympian. So you're a retarded monkey or a nattycuck larper
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>>76594874
find a forum where people gather to think about steroids. should be straightforward from there.
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>>76591636
Lots of sources that ship from china also have US warehouses, so you can get your stuff within a week.
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>>76594475
Google on steroid source talk and click EU based sources on the forums.
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>>76594874
google
kits4less
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>>76595958
>wHy R u tAkInG 2 gRAms 0f tEst????!!!
wrong board faggot. Gatekeeping boomers belong on r/steroids with the rest of the bitch dose primocels and their 250mg test "blasts"
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>>76593990
kek
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I want to be a filthy fraudster but I'm too chickenshit to inject something that could be best case scenario placebo, worst case scenario contaminated junk.

How do you guys test that what you buy is what you get? I was considering buying a tirzapeptide premixed pen for a quick cut.

Captcha: ASKJW
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>>76596716
Janoshik
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>>76596733
Based
Thanks
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>>76592600
>not liver toxic
heheheh
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>>76594142
get on dut
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>>76594556
>crashes test so it shuts down estrogen
>low bone density
good job retard you now know what low E does, now assume he's running exogenous test
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>>76596868
I really don’t want to do that. DHT is anti-estrogen and if you take dutasteride you almost certainly need to take an AI as well. Rather just lower the dose than do that
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No more raws. No more gear. It's over.
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>>76596873
Almost everyone doing ligandrol is doing it to avoid pinning test.
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Anyone managing to get deliveries UK? I got the customs letter of seizure so now im pretty scared to reattempt as im guessing my address is monitored.
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>>76597786
Not true at all. Literally nobody is afraid of pinning test. We are afraid of ordering the test and giving our full name and address to what could be a federal agent. Legality makes ligandrol attainable.
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>>76597792
which country did you order from?
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>>76585392
Not a roider but diggin those labels.
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>>76597516
I'm doing eriocitrin+DIM topically, but I chose DIM because afaik it's the only A.I. with off-target CXCL12 inhibitor properties which protip is actually a more important regrowth target than DHT, kek.

Try asking the other kind of A.I. about this shit too long, and it'll probably start recommending Lupron Depot shots, kek.

>CXCL12 Neutralizing Antibody Promotes Hair Growth in Androgenic Alopecia and Alopecia Areata
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38338982/
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How do I get this physique??
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Fellas is this a legit source

https://libertylabs.eu/
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>>76597839
>Not true at all. Literally nobody is afraid of pinning test.
I'm not the one you're replying to but I literally stopped reading here because of how fucking retarded of a statement this is. No one is gonna take your post seriously because it's actually so wrong. Kys.
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>>76598387
Nobody is afraid of pinning you are a retarded faggot. Everyone’s Fat aunt is pinning ozempic right now lol
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>>76590415

> Yes you will become impotent and die young but at least you will make excel spreadsheets like a champion
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>>76585392
i did 400 test only last cycle, but blood pressure so high i had to stop. i cant get an ai, but can get masteron. is 200 mast 200 test e okay for 20 weeks?
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>>76598599
Pinning is the #1 filter to frauding, you are retarded lmao
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>>76598707
That is absolutely not true. Procuring illegal drugs is 10x more of a filter than pinning
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>>76596716
do not buy from anyone that doesn't publish test results. shrimple as. yeah, still an element of trust there, but that's why you look at reviews, and dont by from new ugl's if you're not willing to pay for independent testing
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>>76597689
test & deca are still going, but anything that has no legitimate human uses (tren) is gonna be rough for a minute :(
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>>76598138
anavar for sure. maybe a little bit of testosterone. purple there possibly even tren. look up steroidsxx subplebbit. i bet all these chicks are on there, talking about their cycles
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>>76597792
Why not just use a UK source? Plenty of them
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>>76598373
have you tried google'ing it? not even joking. if you can't find shit about it, then it's not to be trusted. nobody can keep their mouth shut. period. only way two people can keep a secret is if one of them is dead
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>>76598629
what do you mean "is it ok?"?
Ok for what? Ok for who?
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>>76598599
>>76597839
You don't belong here. These threads are not for you.
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>>76598373
yes. check mesorx retard
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>>76586816
>organs grow, making you look like a turtle
yeah bro just keep roiding bro
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>>76598898
That "GH gut" organs growing look only happens to guys pinning 18ius a day and running 2 grams of gear.
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>>76598754
Genuine brainlet. Do you actually talk to people who lift?
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>>76599070
You’re the brainlet literallly 80IQ fucktard.
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>>76596690
he's actually right though and you're basically piana maxxing
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>>76593215
Booba
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>>76585392
why do some roiders get puffy round face?
>pic related
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>>76599018
Then why are slender waists so rare nowadays?
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>>76586816
>I don't understand people who do not want to increase their performance
most guys aren't playing a competitive sport beyond beer/rec leagues. roiding if you're just lifting for your health/aesthetics is retarded
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>>76599223
Squats and deadlifts. Literally why cbum said he stopped doing them, made his waist too thick
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>>76599220
High E2/water retention

>>76598854
this
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>>76599223
In bodybuilding? Because guys are blasting too much gear. For no reason mind you lol, it's not like they're pros its guys who just like to lift weights its so stupid.
If you run a moderate 500mg/ test a week along with some mast or something and 2-4iu of gh you will not have a GH/ roid gut.
You would have a nice slender waist if the person trained and dieted correctly.
You have absolute retards out there tho blasting super high dosages and they end up looking ridiculous.
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Why do people day delts can't handle too much volume?
Is it to reduce PIP or does it not properly absorb if you pin too much oil?
I'm doing 1ml every day on side delts and get no PIP
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>>76599344
>water retention
wouldnt that mean their faces go back to normal once they stop the roids? because he has this puffy face all year round, id assume hed cycle, not be on gear all the time
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>>76597839
You sound like a bitch and I bet you look like one too. Kek.
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>>76599220
because he is squatting 365kg
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>>76599314
https://www.instagram.com/p/DEFoPhCxA0G
wtf are talking about, neck issues are the reason he doesnt squat and never quit deadlifting
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>>76599823
Not really. The guy who thinks pinning is some kind of proof of him being hard core is the bitch
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>>76598129
you have never pinned or even lifted in your life
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>>76599788
There seems to be a mechanism at play where just having more muscle mass leads to more water retention in the face. Regardless of hormones. It’s kind of a math thing I believe.
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>>76599911
Agreed. Pinning was scary when the boomers started roiding. Nowadays you just watch YouTube videos with step by step instructions it’s only scary for the very squeamish
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>>76597839
You think a fed is going to come knocking and busting your balls because you ordered 10 vials of test over the course of a year?
When they bust suppliers they're not wasting their time with low level clientele they only want other distributors.
>DURRR OHH NOOOOOOOO A FED HAS MY ADDRESSSSSSS
They literally won't do anything.
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>>76601068
Depends on the country
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>>76601144
Didn't take that into consideration, I just know the U.S. won't waste time and resources on a low level consumer
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>>76585392
I did my first cycle a while back, probably 5 months ago, and I did my PCT and everything as well.

I noticed after my PCT that I started getting acne on my chest, I never had it before and now it’s quite a bit. Was my PCT pills bunk?
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In the last thread I posted about pinning test-e into my upper quad and the resulting bloat and pain.

The initial doc I went to gave me heavy NSAIDs and told me I'd be fine inna few weeks, he did a sonigram, said I tore a muscle.

I waited about a week and went to the doc, apparently I had an infection and I was bleeding into my leg, they lanced me in two places, cleaned it, and I go back for my checkup today. I feel I have made progress since the procedure.

What I want to know is, is this all possible from pinning? I never did my quad before, I use dragon pharma, but was wondering if maybe I could get some input on whether or not this is just a "quads are bad". Juat seems over-the-top
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>>76599750
i'm with you. i do 1ml three times a week. never had any pip, but it's peptides. it's actually quite nice, but i favor quads/vg for my daily's
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>>76601404
acne seems to come more with hormone fluctuations, and not steady levels. probably will go away after they've settled
>>76601516
a tear from pinning? i doubt it. probably just over did it at the gym. abscess from pinning? totally possible. you may have had two things going on at once by coincidence
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What happens if I pin in scar tissue? Will it still get absorbed?
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>>76592594
My first pin was with super shaky post-lifting hands and the difference when done correctly is amazing, yes.
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>>76601553
>scar tissue
>2025
sounds like levels of skill issues.
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>>76601927
nta but any tips on breaking up existing scar tissue to get it to heal as skin instead
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>>76601930
Literally just freezing it bit by bit is about the most effective, but there are countless molecular tricks too from ingredients of OTC scar creams to weird deranged China shit off PubMed like turmeric+bromelain.
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>glute needs a harpoon and is uncomfortable to twist and pin
>quad horror stories
>delt is fine but can't handle much volume

Where the fuck are you supposed to inject?
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>>76602252
Subcutaneously. Its so fucking obvious and easy to do. Never hear horror stories. inb4 fags say they require too much gear for subq. I have easily done 500 test a week subQ. It is quite literally easier and less time consuming than brushing your teeth.
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TRT fags do you think its smart to always use less than you are prescribed and always ask for more test so you can have extra or do you think I should pretty much play it straight and do exactly what the dr. wants?

The downside of sand bagging is that I might need to pay for even more blood tests. But the upside is having extra testosterone that I can bank up and use for a proper cycle later on if I want to.
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>>76594853
>It's a protein receptor that's literally encoded by the AR gene.
That means it's not a gene, you jeet. It is the product of that gene.
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Which compounds do I need to start worrying about progesterone lab work with? Also, anyone try doing both regular and ultra sensitive E2 tests while on EQ? Heard it converts to estrone which is cross detected in the regular tests but it’s $35 cheaper.
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>>76602292
Usually they’re trying to get you to take too much anyway, so that you need constant blood tests and aromatase inhibitors, you should see where 80-100mg a week split into two doses gets you… probably in a realistic normal range like 600-800 which will actually be healthy and not cause e2 problems… then save it up for actual blasts, or just buy the cheaper shit UG
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what age did you start pinning? im 28 and have been lifting since 18, i could barely bench the bar when i was 18 and my test now is 320lbs x4 paused
Ive been getting really demotivated when i see people much stronger than me have been lifting for only a few years, im convinced i have shit genetics
ive been extremely intrigued on taking gear soon
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>>76602606
I started pinning at 4 as my dad wanted to instill a warrior edge mindset in me by making me experience being DOMINANT at a young age. I banged half the school year and was wrecking boys twice my height. I've always had big dick energy since then.
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>>76602606
best now*
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Can someone explain how primo helps control estrogen? I thought primo basically acted like a sarm, which would make aromatization worse I think. Unless it produces some kind of AI/serm-like thing as a metabolite???
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>>76602625
DHT modulates estogen receptors in a way that kind of cancels out estrogenic activity. It also directly inhibits armomatization. Primo is a DHT derivative and does the same thing I believe as does masteron. For some reason anavar either does not do this or its just not possible to dose it high enough for it to be a meaninful AI.

This is also why everyone taking finasteride to save their hair is gonna run into aromitization issues if they don't also take an AI.

not that any of this matters because the good DHT derived roids are no longer on the market and we are all fucked.
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>>76598898
>how do roids work
yeah and mountain dew makes your pp small
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>>76601528
Should I continue with the same bottle or start over with new?
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>>76602264
all my steroids say IM only on the box though
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>>76602264
I don't like subQ it leaves weird hard bumps
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>>76602677
Unironically something needs to happen to start producing raws in the US kek shit is getting expensive
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>>76585392
>go to doctor
>straight up ask the bitch for roids
>no
now what
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>>76602963
Try the vet next time they got that legal tren



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