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>>76589706
>there are people on this planet that would kill themselves without listening to jocko
absolutely grim

>>76589780
We live in a dystopian hell of our own making

Day 8 nofap+noporn and I woke up in the middle of the night with my urethra burning my balls aching and uneasiness in my stomach. As far as I know I did not have any nocturnal emission. Is this normal?
Should be noted that prior I was a major gooner for the better part of a decade and had not been longer than a week without either fapping or watching porn before

>>76589706
Kek

I fucking hate this shit. Why do you need so much motivation to lift bro. If you wont want to lift then just do something else. Are you a man or a machine? Imagine wasting your life on earth doing a bunch of shit you don't want to do all the time. I understand we all have to do things we don't want to from time to time but you are buck broken if you start imposing shit on yourself like this.

>>76589706
i no fap to blacked

Two weeks of no porn but still fapping. This shit rules. Orgasm feels better, takes less time because I don’t edge trying to find the perfect thing to nut to or just want to keep watching, zero sense of shame or regret or anything, more confident because I’m not watching some other guy with a 10 inch dick fuck hot chicks. No fap is such a fucking scam, doomed to fail and repeat the shame cycle for 99% of people. Just fap without porn. It’s way, WAY easier and better than I thought it would be.

>>76590554
Damn I can’t believe I never tried this I always tried to go cold turkey on everything because I thought fapping without porn would make me relapse on both. I’m so retarded I even tried nofap while still regularly watching porn. What do you even fap to, your imagination?

>>76590554
>just fap without porn

I will just imagine even worse shit than the porn I watch. But I think just still images of sexy girls could be the ticket for me

>>76590592
>>76590601
Yes, just imagination. I’m a virgin so I don’t even have a “spank bank” but it’s still easy when you’re horny enough. I used the “I would just be imagining porn anyway” excuse for a while but it’s still way different from actually watching porn and over time you start to imagine scenarios/women that you actually prefer instead of whatever your porn brain finds more stimulating (usually stuff that is more hardcore/fetishistic). I recommend not fapping for a couple days so you’re horny enough to not need porn to bust the first time you do it. After that it’s smooth sailing because you know you can do it, also your libido just increases overall so it gets easier. Obviously this all just based on my personal experience so your mileage may vary, but it’s been great for me.

>>76590601
This too, if I fap to just my imagination but I imagine some intense depraved bbc cuckold humiliation porn is that not just as bad as regular porn

Also what constitutes “porn” from a noporn perspective. Is watching IG thots twerking in gym clothes porn? What about lewd drawings in manga/anime or a sex scene in a movie or nude photos or clothed but suggestive photos? If I fap to the sydney Sweeney jeans ad am I breaking my no porn streak?

>>76590858
You know what porn is. I still consume anime/manga with fanservice, my X feed has art that could be considered erotic (no or at least very little nudity), and I still don’t mind when a hot actress shows her ass or tits in a movie or show. I’m on 4chan so I’ll occasionally see nudity or just straight up porn here as well. The point is to not masturbate to external visual stimuli and to not intentionally stimulate your brain with porn. You can still be a normal male who likes to see hot girls on TV. I would argue that intentionally scrolling through insta thots is a bit counterproductive to the objective but isn’t a “failure”, same goes for scrolling through sexy anime artwork, seeking out and reading a super fanservicey manga, etc. Ultimately I’m not trying to tell other guys what to do with their dick I’m just saying if you think porn is unhealthy but don’t want to do no fap, then there is another way that is worth giving a serious try.

>>76590943
Sure but my point is that “just jack off without porn” opens the door not only for people to fap to shit that is just as bad whether it be your imagination or non explicit but lewd images and think that it’s totally fine as long as it’s not technically porn which also just slowly leads back to porn as the need for more intense stimulus increases again

>>76590481
Could be that dried semen got caught in your urethra. If you don't beat off for like 3 weeks or so you'll start pissing out strings of dried semen semi-frequently. It doesn't usually hurt but it sometimes can

>This thread somehow turned into a serious discussion about nofap and noporn
GOOD

>>76590481
Your not suppose to go on long nofap streaks during the beginning of your journey. Stopping cold turkey is a terrible idea. Trust me.

>>76590554
>Just fap without porn.
It has to be rapey humiliation shit if I do it without porn.

>>76591044
you fucking porn addicts are unreal man, you will find any way possible to justify watching porn
you know very well that imagining a scene in your head is not the same level of stimulation as watching a hardcore porn video, stop being so obtuse and finding excuses

>>76590481
it's normal. balls burning is "blue balls" when your blood vessels swell, it's harmless. the urethra burning is a reaction between basic dried semen emission and acidic piss.

if you're nofapping, dont piss after an erection or when you feel stimulated to reduce the chance of this.

symptoms will subside in an hour or so. if you are in a lot of pain, take a handtowel and soak it in cold water and apply it to your junk.

t. medfag

>>76589780
seething brownoid