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Physiologically what is worse for your brain and what are your options:

>pornography which eventually leads you into hard-core BDSM kink.com type of content
>hentai, again same type of content but even more brutal involving aliens and tentacles
>hiring an escort and getting ripped off and sent home, again there's going to be shame associated with that ("wow, I really couldn't get that for free?")
>going to bars and clubs and risking getting herpes or another STD (HERPES IS FOR LIFE)
>having a loving relationship but then you have to sacrifice your lifting, half your assets and most likely getting insulted and also humiliated on a daily basis
>going monk mode, renouncing all sexual activity and risking prostate cancer

Seriously what do you do as a man after 15 years of being wired by hard-core pornography, feminism and MeToo?

What is the best option?
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Stop being a fag
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>>76591485
fpbp
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>>76591474
just jerk off without porn retard
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>>76591474
Id probably just balance my life in a way that makes me comfortable instead of developing a list of stereotypical extremes based on internet meme culture so I can pick one out and organize my entire life around it
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>>76591474
/fit/ isn't r9k please fuck off
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>>76591485
>>76591489
>>76591502
>>76591511

The reason why I made this post is to tell you that you can rewire your brains, it's not too late. If I could do it finally at 30 then you can too.

This is not about sex. It's about your nervous system. It's about dopamine. It's about Alzheimers.

You don't need a girlfriend. You don't need an external source. You are not bad, wrong or shameful. You may have done lots of things in the past that were shameful, but you also had great experiences with women you didn't pay for. You're not broken.
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>>76591474
just tell yourself that was a different person. you once we're that person, but from this moment on you're a new person. You may have to answer for the things your old self did, but if you can hold your head up in the end and confidently say
>that's not who I am
then you can do it. if you fuck up, start over.
wanna goon?
>that's not who I am
wanna get that fifth of liquor?
>that's not who I am
wanna Doordash that extra slop?
>that's not who I am
works for anything if you want it to. you fuck up, you reset. beat yourself and treat yourself. hold yourself accountable but be fair.
I hope this helps. I sent you some energy.
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>>76591638
Are all cute goth girls CIA robots or was it only this single one?
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>>76591638
Thank you. This brought me huge relief. The thing is that I had a girlfriend but I broke up with her due to her guy friends. Then I went to an escort and I've been trying to wash away that shame since. But the more I want to do it, I isolate myself even more.

You're right. I'm a different person. I realized all this is not for me. It's so much better to control your urges even if it means not glancing at anything sexual. I went down a rabbit hole where I went to a Fetlife part with a bunch of queers and that made me go "Wow,I need to swear off all this for good, this is all too far, my brain is fucked"
And when you do nofap, it's amazing. After 2 months you don't even view women as objects anymore, you relax.

On an unrelated note should I sign up for the National Powerlifting Federation? They only have one meet in 2 weeks but I don't think I'm gonna make that one, haven't even bought a singlet yet.
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>>76591474
>having a loving relationship but then you have to sacrifice your lifting

No - you have to draw a line.
Women say they don't care about muscles n shit - but it isn't true.
They want a man who can protect them.
They want a man who can say no.
Their idea of normal is Momoa or Henry Cavill.
keep going
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>>76591474
>having a loving relationship but then you have to sacrifice your lifting, half your assets and most likely getting insulted and also humiliated on a daily basis
If it's loving, you will be supported and not humiliated or insulted. What the fuck happened to you to think being humiliated is part of a loving relationship?
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>>76591683
Observing mom and dad's marriage the past 40 years...
She gave him a heart attack and she's morbidly obese

So far I've tricked a few girls into sleeping my during my youth but no way I'm risking my life the way my dad has done
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>>76591660
I mean, if you're ready then yes sign up. I assume you've been training. Another life hack is looking in the mirror or closing your eyes and telling yourself
>DO IT NOW
>DO IT NOW
>DO IT NOW
helps motivate me on rough days (most days)
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>>76591709
You have a blessing in disguise but have to recognize it. You can find a loving relationship since you know what to avoid.
A good relationship isn't a gains goblin (very young kids can be, but you bounce back). Happily married people live longer, statistically. Just see what your parents did and ... Don't do that. Don't be scared, rather, realize your map already has HERE BE DRAGONS on it. Just don't go to the dragons.
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>>76591638
based as fuck nigga. when the devil knocks, just go "that's not me" like the beach boys.
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>>76591660
>The thing is that I had a girlfriend but I broke up with her due to her guy friends.

I’d love to have a gf/relationship abut a lot the hoes in my school and workplace get very chummy with the dudes around them despite a lot having boyfriends and idk if I’d be able to handle that without coming off as insecure (which I would be). What exactly made you reach your limit in that situation? Not sure what the proper way to handle your gf having a lot of dudes around her that flirt and make a lot of physical contact with her would be.
Also I guess I work out and stuff too lmao
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>>76591474
>pornography
>hentai
Worst for the brain. Destroys your reward system, kills your drive to do anything worthwhile and interest on things. Sounds cliche but it's simply the truth
>going to bars and clubs and risking getting herpes or another STD
Bruh there are different levels of sluts
You can have many one night stands with "high quality sluts" (pretty, hot, clean, good smelling, std free) and have a great time instead of fucking the bottom of the barrel filthy skanks at the end of the night
Increase your own value to have more pull and learn how to filter better god damnit
>having a loving relationship
It's the best but society is fucked and everyone is brainwashed out of this
>but then you have to sacrifice your lifting, half your assets and most likely getting insulted and also humiliated on a daily basis
Bro a proper, decent relationship is not anything like that at all. Sure, the average woman is worse by the day, but if you let it be like that it's entirely YOUR fault
If your woman has a brain and is not operating on the default modern female drone mode, you don't quit your hobbies and you don't get miserable
What kind of man are you if you get insulted and humiliated for no reason? And if there IS a reason, the question still stands, what fucking kind of man are you?
>going monk mode, renouncing all sexual activity and risking prostate cancer
There is no reason for this

1/2
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2/2

Now let's talk about escorts
>>76591474
>>76591660
>hiring an escort and getting ripped off
Yeah that's part of the deal, escorts are not cheap and the better the quality, the higher the cost, it's an expensive activity
>there's going to be shame associated with that ("wow, I really couldn't get that for free?")
>and I've been trying to wash away that shame since
Bruh, what the fuck
This is only as good or as bad as you make it to be
There is absolutely no reason, zero, to be ashamed or regretful if you see it for what it is, plain and simple
You're trading resources for pleasure and if you impose this mindset on yourself you're just going to cut the fun right out of it
Yeah no shit you can get it for free, then go get it
Otherwise stop crying about it, it's just a shortcut into a random woman's pussy
Some people randomly blow money away on gambling, meaningless trips, a destructive night out, seeing an escort is just one of these activities
Don't think too much of it and don't make it your life
That's assuming you got a decent high tier escort, if you're too poor for that you have bigger problems to work on, my dude
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>>76592085
Beach boys were satanic fags who ushered in TikTok perfidiously from nearly a century back. Sellouts at the best
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>>76591474
NONE OF THEE ABOVE!
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>>76592233
NTA, but that shame after doing it is a real thing. Granted, I grew up a real moral fag, but to me, it felt like killing the good man I was. Perhaps it's because I grew up believing in God, and wanted something of a trad wife...in the big 25, I know...The one good thing I got out of it, was realizing I didn't just want sex, I wanted intimacy, someone who actually gave a damn about me. Have I found that person yet? no. Do they even exist? I have no idea
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>>76591638
based beyond belief
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>kink.com is hardcore BDSM
LMAO, that shit is incredibly vanilla
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>>76593298
I know it is real, my point is that there is no need to be ashamed of it as long as it's a one time / very occasional thing and that you are fully aware & accept it is pure sex and lust, no intimacy
>it felt like killing the good man I was
I'm married now but before that I had many one night stands and seen two escorts, none of those experiences made me feel like that, nor made me feel less like a man
I believe I'm a free spirit and can do whatever I want as long as I treat others with respect and honor, don't harm others and don't lose sight of my values
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>>76591474
>>hiring an escort and getting ripped off and sent home, again there's going to be shame associated with that ("wow, I really couldn't get that for free?")

I've never hired an escort but i can imagine the reason you pay her most of all is for her to leave after the sex. Nothing in life is free, not even pussy.
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>>76591638
good shit
>wanna stay in front of the screen the rest of the day and get that 4fag dopamine drip
that's not who I am
>or do you wanna take pen and paper, plan, execute, plan, execute, actually enjoy rest, and repeat
that's who I strive to be
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>>76593458
I'm sure it's kind of retarded to even ask, but did you ever tell your wife? It's just hard that I probably will have to take what I hate about myself most to the grave
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>>76593528
don't tell it to your wife obviously, and that's what you have anonymous strangers for
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>>76593531
Isn't that hard though? Maybe I'm just inexperienced more than anything, but it feels wrong to have to hide something like that. That she'd be marrying someone she might not if she really knew the truth of. I suppose I yearn for someone who could withstand such things
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>>76593536
I too yearn for a woman who can be a soulmate and wouldn't get the ick from things that I share about my past, but that's too high of a standard for 90% of women, so I've learned to not bother. Last relationship taught me that much, at least.
Same way a woman shouldn't tell her husband she did anal with her ex and he could make her cum from penetration every time.
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>>76593528
>but did you ever tell your wife?
Of course not
For decent women this is seen as worse than being gay or torturing animals or some shit, it instantly cuts down your value to 1%
>It's just hard that I probably will have to take what I hate about myself most to the grave
Mate if you want to vent, open up, or enlightment you need friends and a male therapist, not yapping at your wife
You're supposed to be her foundation, not a lost girl
Know this, understand this, internalize this
>That she'd be marrying someone she might not if she really knew the truth of
I get where you're coming from, but while I truly believe this did not make me less of a person, I understand many other people don't think the same way, my wife included.
There are many unspoken, unwritten laws that society abides to, even if I think those are wrong/outdated/invalid that's entirely on me and the way I view and live life; People will still follow those rules.



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