do u really need anything else if u do these weighted? throw some curls and a triceps isolation in there and done
>>76592650>Push upsWith deficit and as finisher or close grip for triceps>Pull ups Based, even better if underhand>Bodyweight rowsGiga retarded, either go for barbell rows or seal rows>Dips Based If you added a french press, Incline bench, OHP and barbell curl this is pretty much it
>>76592650>he dips>>76591193
>>76592874>dips out of the thread
>>76592650Inverted rows are underrated since you can't fuck up the form like with barbell rows
the first exercise is a meme, use a barbell or dumbellsdips are fine, so are pull ups. wide grip thopush ups are worthless past a certain point, just benchand yeah add curls. I also like to do flies for extra chest work and reverse curl so my grip doesn't lagthe problem is you're basically neglecting shoulders. you need ohp (or hspu if you're a bodyweight fag) and lat raises or something for side delts.
>>76592650> not weighteddyel general?
>>76592650Why do you "people" insist on doing little boy exercising instead of getting under a barbell? Fucking pussies.
>>76592650>do u really need anything else if u do these weighted?>lol you don't need any equipment >has a pullup barCalisthenics fags are so disingenuous. And no, I can't use a fucking tree instead because I'm not a monkey and I don't live in the jungle.
>>76592973>>76592979>t. fat
>>76592650Post your awesome upper body you got from this bullshit, you dyel piece of shit.We did that shit in the Army for years and everyone was either skelly or skinnyfat.The only people who "solved upper body" went to the gym on their own time and lifted heavy fucking weightsfaggot
>>76592862>Pull ups >Based, even better if underhandIsn't that technically a chin up?
>>76592650Don't dips hit the same area as pushups? Why do I need dips?
>>76592862>french presshow tf is this supposed to build muscle?
>>76593500>Isn't that technically a chin up?Are you retarded?
>>76593511Coffee is a good pre-workout
>>76593538coffee makes me shit
>>76592650>do u really need anything else if u do these weighted?you're almost there, you need a vertical push movement to work ya delts
>>76593634Pike pushups/Handstand pushups
>>76592650Imagine going to a gym to use a smith machine, dip parallel bars, the floor and a pullup bar for only bodyweight exercises.
>>76593644That's why you do them at home
>>76593507when you do them you will realise they are way betterdvmr
>>76592938they are also the most beginner friendly, and let's be real, most people today are beginners suffering from low confidence
>>76593719wouldn't make sense either because who is going to have a smith machine and not use it for presses, squats, pulls?pushups and dips are way too easy for the average person.
I like having some (upper) traps and that kind of requires holding big weights in hands. But if we go with the picture, I would add some type of handstand push up or at least hold. It opens the rib cage and stuff.
>>76593568>doesn't shit himself during the workoutngmi
>>76593739your average man cannot do a single pull up or multiple good form push ups
Dips, pullups, DB rows, DB shoulder press, DB curls, DB triceps, DB lateral raises>>76592973barbell is for fat faggots like powershitters. calisthenics + dumbell is superior to barbell.>>76592979You need equipment, but less and cheaper.>>76593507Dips are more functional and natural. But you can do both.
>>76593796I started training recently and I could do 2 pull ups, 2 dips, 10-15 push ups. But I was not fat. If someone is fat and untrained then he won't make a single pull up or dip.
>bodyweight is enough!Your wife paid 2 men to carry a fridge into her kitchen and then fuck her while you were browsing reddit in your dead-end office job.
>>76594098Not bodyweight but weighted calisthenics.
>>76592650Honestly replace push ups with handstand push ups and you're golden
>>76594521Feet on the wall I mean
>>76592650>zero medial and anterior delt work>zero forearm work>bodyweight rows?>pushupslmfao
>>76592650why not just chins and dips?
>>76594531> dips> push ups>> zero anterior delt >pullups>zero forearm workKEKKIN
First few posts are just retards parroting stereotypes, can't be bothered to check the rest.>>76592650These are all good, just add isolations after. Keep in mind dips mostly work the bottom of the pecs, so if you want to hit the top fibers you will have to add flies in an upwards angle, pike pushups, incline or OH pressing, or just stick to push ups and flies.
>>76594768I am doing decline push ups for upper chest. I put my feet on the bed and hands on the floor.
>>76594818If you elevate your hands you can do deficit as well, to get more range. One arm on each chair, feet on a table, any combination you like.Make sure you use good technique and you're mindful of the biomechanics of each joint.https://youtube.com/watch?v=es_Tz8Si75ohttps://youtube.com/watch?v=x8XFerUZGE4
>>76592650I might start doing knuckle pushups and dips since theres no hulk hands barbell attachment on the market.
>>76592650If you want to make 4mo progress in 1yr, calisthenics are easily the best form of exercise.
>>76594882>t. cant do pullups with 30 extra kg
I do upside down pull ups and wide supine dips on rings. You claim you can easily rep out on calisthenics? Do you enjoy lying on the internet?
>>76592650>>76592938Inverted ring rows is the final frontier. Take the ringpill.
>>76594696sorry, meant posterior delt. The OP's post was so retarded it actually made me retarded for a minute.
Beats powersharting.
>>76596368posterior ones are trained by pullups and rows. Only middle delts are not trained but you can get them with handstand pushups
>>76592973This + look at the coping replied
based
What's the best way to add weight to pushups and inverted rows?
>>76598761Backpack and put iron or concrete inside backpack. Iron is denser than concrete.When you do inverted rows, you better wear backpack on your chest, not your back.
good
>>76598761
>>76592650> this thread is still going despite MET being on first page Check. The. Fucking. Catalog.>>76584473
Would these underhand inverted rows paired with chins be enough for biceps?
>>76600118Yes. But if you have dumbbells then do one set of curls too.
ok
>no shoulders
>>76601837Pike Push ups
>>76601837rows and pullups hit the rear delt enough , same for dips and pushups and the front deltside delt just grab a fucking dumbbell or do handstand push ups
>>76599614I hate generals so fucking much. Generals ruined 4chan. I'm not talking about a recurring topic that generates lots of replies but the retarded faggot long ass general OP, the stale, discussion and the "you can only discuss any topic even slightly related here". Fuck you you retarded faggot. I hope you choke to death.
yes
>>76604281they definitely didnt ruin fit since it only has like 4. You can only really make that argument for b and v
>>76592650>a bunch of basic multi-joint compounds that have their gym equivalents solve upper bodyyeah no shit niggaif pushups are too easy do them weighted with elevated feet on rings, or progress to planche pushups to snap your shitif rows are too easy do them weighted or progress towards front lever pullups to snap your shitdips and pullups are general staples of any program, even the sticky recommends themthe truth is that it literally doesn't matter what you do as long as you progress in the lift by making it harder or adding weight consistently, this all that matters
>>76592650It's good if you want a minimialist routine, but not enough, you need more isolations for everythingPush ups and inverted rows are also hard to progressively overload. You can play with form and elevation for a while, but you will need to add weight sooner than later
>>76592650Lateral delts
>>76605292qtddtotmetfraudroonwlgpowershartbodyfat hateall this absolute shit with stupid wall of text copypasta shitting up the catalog and opif u want to talk about something just make a thread no reason to have these stupid retarded autistic forced generals they ruin the board and were created by some faggot crybaby from v who was assblasted that we wanted to talk about something else. generals are cancer and ruined 4chan
>>76592862>chin ups>pull upsbiceps and back are not the same muscle anon
>>76592650hang cleans without pushing big weight, sub 1pl8 have been really nice for me
>>76606271This is like saying dips are only for triceps you fucking retard, try chin ups with normal pull up form instead of keeping the torso straight and it will rape your lats
>>76606246fat hate is retarded, all the others are based and called for. You can hide them easily because of their name so if anything you should be grateful
>>76606386the general discussion format robs us of having any interesting discussion related to the topic and forces all content into uniform discussion. it makes all content bland and boring. hiding generals doed nothing you mentally devoid retard
>>76606361the lats work the same in any grip, only thing that changes is the help from the elbow flexors
>>76606386what is even the point of fat hate. Is it fats actually using it to motivate themselves to lose weight or is it auschwitz modes getting off on feeling superior to someone? lol either way pretty dumb I agree
>>76606398>the general discussion format robs us of having any interesting discussion related to the topichow?
>>76606420both prolly
>>76606420To remind you that fats are a fucking disgusting lot maybe not even humans (like niggers). Use that reminder however it serves you, fatty.
>>76592650>does one need moreNoBut I want moreSimple as
>>76606474because nobody goes into a giant red flag general post unless they're already into the topic. there's no interesting content to discuss to attract anybody but the same handful of sperglords who make and live in the same threads every day. no new minds to add new info or ideas. same autistic discussion every day.
>>76592948shoulders are a secondary in each of these exercises. i do these and my shoulder are fine.
>>76592650i literally do dips, pull ups, push ups and dumbell curls for upper body. 2x per week. body looks better than 99% of fit.
>>76608005>no horizontal pulling , no ohp itsover
>>76592650>lack of biceps development>lack of superior traps development>lack of upper peck development>lack of long head development>lack of delt developmentSwap the bodyweight rows with dumbbell rows so that you can progress with them. Bodyweight rows are also a meme. You're not allowed enough freedom in the motion to get the right positioning for lat work. The elbows should be moving from should height to somewhere just above waist height depending on grip width. In the case of dumbbell rows, your forearm should be vertical the entire time while your lats move your elbow to your waist. Decent for rear delts, rhomboids, and middle traps. Not comparable in any way to a free weight or machine row as far as back development is concerned.Only do dips and pull ups weighted. Lean into the dips more to get more pecs. Don't worry too much about staying upright for triceps. You'll get plenty of triceps from it even when leaning forward more. Swap pushups with incline press on a 30 to 45 degree bench. Add barbell curls and hammer curls. Add lateral raises. Add heavy shrugs. Add an overhead triceps exercise or two.Add a dedicated grip exercise with a grip machine/device or free weights.Add wrist curls.
>>76607470by that logic why have boards to begin with and not just one huge cesspool of b?
>>76592650Why do this when you can do standing rows, DL, bench press, etc.
Add in wall supported handstand pushups for vertical pressing and you’re golden
>>76592650I figure this is a good place to ask help for my minimalistic, post-break workout upper body routine. I do>push up>overhead press>shrug>chin upGood?
>>76609293no
>>76609314elaborate por favor
>>76592650Kind of silly. These are like warmups for my upper body days. I usually do pushups, flat bench, close grip, incline, and dips. Superset bench with rows and add lat pulldowns or pullups
>>76609337lurk more
>>76609268 #i actually think there are too many boards and many of them should be consolidated. for a low traffic board like fit generals are particularly retarded. dropping your post into a dead general after scrolling through a hundreds post long discussion is quite literally needle in the hay. nobody wants to visit your faggot tier generic copy pasta spam general topic or a billion different ultra specific and super dead boards. you're thinking is the same as some delusional ceo handed their job by dad im charge of making rules that they themselves never have to follow. fuck you
>>76609293Yes.
>>76609617you seem to be insecure and bitter. I do think some boards should be combined but not sp and fit. Sp fags are obnoxious
OP here, you guys cant fucking read? >if u do these weightedi wasnt fucking talking about bodyweight shit
>>76609987Insecure not in the slightest but everytime some fuckhead suggests a general aka the most dogshit posting format of all time you will receive my utmost fuck you. Generals are cancer and anyone who thinks they're fine should die
>>76610241i doubt you can rep out the bw progressions anyway but if you'd rather add weight yeah weighted calisthenics is all you need
>>76592650>no side deltlol framelet
>>76611244>muh progressionsstick to the fucking basics weighted dips and weighted pull ups > meme levers
>>76611259>buy 1 gallon / 5L water bottle>do lateral raises>if not enough, grab two water bottles
>>76592650noyou also don't really need anything else if you do big 3/4/5/6 whatever you retardfeel free to limit yourself to arbitrary shit while i go to the gym next door and do whatever exercises i feel like that day including weighted calisthenics
>>76593741You can do Y, T and face pulls that target the upper traps reasonably well.Yes, nothing like shrugs, but you don't need to be 100% underdeveloped.
