>>76598374
I discovered brambles last weekend. Made some at home last night. It led to fingering my wife's ass. Good times.

How have you been, bartender op?

I hate waking up in the morning. There is no joy here anymore. No sunset, just me waiting to die

When i was 20 i wondered what my life would be when i'm older, i'm 32 now and its exactly the same it was back then.
Now i realize it will be the same until i die, if i don't die early its another 40 years of exactly the same. I feel like i've already experienced everything existence has to offer.
I don't even know if any of it is real, everyone feels like an npc. Everyone talks about the same things, does the same things, wants the same things.
I'm not depressed, i still enjoy doing things but it just causes me to not really care about anything.

>>76598374
I made a productivity tracker after I found a system that itches that part of my brain just right. Used it for a couple days, then fell completely off the wagon I’ve been in for the last few weeks. No wife to finger in the ass. Pretty lonely times. I realize the way out of my hole is to climb though.

>>76598567
Same brother. Although I do still really like identifying plants and fungi. That and bugs will always fascinate me when it comes to life and evolution or creation.

>>76598374
barman, hand me a nonalcoholic drink without milk please. im preparing for another week of corporate brainrot.

Elbow hurts so I'm trying to go easy on it, which kinda sucks because I was really making some progress. Youtube recommended me a video about how "You don't want to be in love, you just want somebody to love you" and that really hit deep. I really don't even want a gf, I just want some validation. To be wanted for once. Really seems like it would feel nice

>>76598582
I don't know anything about botany but i also find plants remarkable.
You put a tiny seed in the ground and months/years later something grows that gives you food to survive, we make medicine from them and photosynthesis seems unreal.

Been on the exercise bike every night, tummy is nice and flat.

The antibiotics I'm on are making me lose more hair than normal, which is upsetting but once I finish the course it should stop.

I look healthy, cut out all sugar, plant milk, spinach, broccoli, sprouts everyday now

>>76598374
I have been one month being inconsistent because of employment issues.

And I have to wait one more month before I can finally move out from my parents shitty place and leave behind my videogame addiction and other problems.

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Broke up with the gf of 7 years a couple weeks ago
We were still trying to maintain friendship but realized that couldn't work
First couple days going cold turkey no contact
Can't even lift today due minor injury
Feelin pretty rough bros

I finished my first week of class as a student in my mid-30s.
Surprisingly there were more women in my STEM classes than I thought. There wasn't much time to socialize, though it was mostly going over the courses. I noticed a few people already knew each other, hopefully nothing cliquey.
At least there are groups in a lab that give me the opportunity to meet new people. It seemed there are more females in my assigned lab too.
I wasn't thinking and missed a chance in another class to talk to one of the few girls. I'll definitely do it this week, if she hasn't dropped.

Struggling with managing my bipolar, suicidal for my entire life. The feeling got back, after being free of it for a few months of therapy.

My new doctor is amazing, though. After 10 years, I'm finally close to the right treatment. Never felt weirder, never felt better.

If anyone here feels hopeless, believe me, it's possible, even after years of struggle...You might find relief within even 2-3 months. I just had to get ready to talk to someone, and my meds didn't work...You'll be more fortunate.

I'd be glad to talk to you as well. Stay strong.

I'm >>76598837

>>76598486

>>76598769
My therapist is an addictologist. I have no medical advice to offer, but perhaps I can share some of his insights...How are you managing your addiction?

>>76598788
why did you break up?

>>76598374
I FUCKING HATE MY DAD. I CAN'T EVEN COOK $5 GROUND BEEF AROUND HIM WITHOUT HIM BITCHING I SPEND TOO MUCH. He's like most kids your age just eat pb and j. If you have so much money you should pay your car insurance. He never mentioned it before, and like fine, I'll pay it if it gets you off my dick, but I already know it won't. The smallest shit pisses him off. My mom cooked pasta different and he yelled at her, saying how she ruined it and he was looking forward to this all week. The worst part though is that I'm financially dependent upon him. I'm working towards a cfp, and can't make enough money to live on my own. FUCK IT ALL

>>76598676
It really is. Even the pattern and colors of bark on trees goes widely unnoticed but is absolutely beautiful. And if I remember right, cherry bark is where acetaminophen came from. Botany is tight

Another weekend spent wasting my life. Not making any personal progress. I can't even bring myself to watch films or TV shows anymore. I just sit around and mindless watch videos on my phone. I need to break this cycle. Up for work in a few hours, back to the grind. The grind of life over 30 is just brutal, but I will improve. Any advice?

>>76598867
She was turning 30 and I was spending too much time working. So she went to her mother for support but her mother is evil. Once her mother got in her head the relationship was cooked. All of a sudden it all became about the money. Which is so sad because she was never like that at all.
I'm looking at it as a blessing. Will leave me a lot more time to pursue my own interests.
I just feel immense pain over what my ex will be going through and guilt over it

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late night bulk eating has me throwing up every morning

not food, just wretching up acid and my morning coffee/tea

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>>76598374
Pain killer please.

It's week three of sleeping in the woods every weekend by myself. Rain storm hit and put out my fire but I had a couple buddy burners on standby to use in my shelter. I started intermittent fasting and am down 12lbs from two weeks ago. Unfortunately my schedule isn't consistent so getting gym time in while fasting is really challenging and I'm missing days for the first time since Februaury as a result and it's starting to weigh on me mentally as a result.

Also the turtle seems really happy, I think I'm gonna call it Chuck

>>76598958
>7 years
>no ring
>30+
you're both used goods
what a waste

Girl wants to fuck me. I don't want her. At the same time I feel like I should fuck someone before I turn wizard.

>>76598374
>hate being center of attention
>haven’t had family be a real family in over 20 years parents split when I was 7
>when moved in with dad at 23 stopped seeing mom and sister as often
>became comfortable around my dad again over the years but way more uncomfortable than I previously was around my mom and sister
>any time I see them they make big deal about it don’t just treat me normal, also get bothered about shit already stressing me out
They’ve also all (whole family) done things that have made me uncomfortable throughout my life. I love them but I don’t feel a need to see them. Some texts or phone calls and that’s enough for me. They make me feel shitty for not doing holidays or seeing them. It’s nerve wracking when I’ve tried. It’s also my mom and dad are trying to come together for holidays and they haven’t done that since I was 6 so it’s weird to me. On top of it my sister has a husband now, I like the dude but I don’t know him and I don’t feel a need to be friends with him or engage, so I not only feel like a stranger in the one setting I should feel totally at ease but I also feel like there’s a stranger there too. I have talked to him and helped him do shit over the years I just don’t care to interact, which is how I am with everyone. I’m perfectly happy being ignored and left alone probably because that’s how these people made me feel for my first 21 years. Instead I get this fucking spotlight and it’s abnormal. So I just avoid them and make excuses. And the wildest part is none of them can fucking seem to understand this they just think I’m an antisocial prick for no reason. It makes me sad, I wish it wasn’t like this. And they make me guilty, I wish they understood. I’ll never be able to meet a woman and have dealings with her family, I’ll never be comfortable with my own family. I’ll never be able to start my own family.

DRINK!

>>76599038
>I think I'm gonna call it Chuck
it did not turn out to be a menace?

post pic of said happy turtle

I'm losing faith in myself. I doubt I can be happy. I used to think fixing things about my life I'd stop feeling so shitty all the time, but while some things I've accomplished do feel good, they don't change that I baseline feel like shit all the time. I used to blame feeling like shit on actual things that felt like shit, like not having a gf or friends, being out of shape, not having money or a job or purpose etc, but even with those things sorted out I still feel like shit, except I can't quite point out why. there's nothing left to fix, sure there are challenges every day, but the more I grow, the better my life is, the more I just wanna drink myself to oblivion all the time
And I'm so burned out. I worked so hard to achieve many things and now I have even more responsibility than before and I'm tired of being tired all the time. I'm sick of having to work so much, of having to take care of so much shit, of me getting drunk one day meaning the next day I'm already behind for everything.
I wanted to have children and build a family but sometimes I question that goal. Lately I've been feeling like I might rather just dump my fiancee and become a full time drug addict. The only times life has a semblance of being bearable are when I'm drunk, but it doesn't even cut it. Sometimes I drink and all I think about is killing myself. And then I'm hungover, late with things and have less money in my account, so it just makes it worse in the long run.
I'm also an incredibly shitty boyfriend, my girl just sticks with me because of stockholm syndrome and the fear of me killing myself if she leaves. But at this rate I'm gonna end up doing it anyways and she's going to have to experience and incredibly shitty and unfair situation, though I'm sure that deep inside there will be some relief.

>>76599057
It’s not my fault, but I’m the one eating a shit sandwich. And I know I’ve definitely tried to be with them over the years I just can’t do it

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>>76599086
Naw it seems like its doing way better, spent the first half of the week burrowing under the leaves I put in its enclosure to hide but now it spends all its time in the bucket and hanging out in its water dish. It even lets me pet its shell now without running away :)

>>76599190
What’s the green
Get him some worms or slugs and he’ll love you

>>76598844
Hey anon, I totally forgot about this thread.

I am glad that you are experiencing an improvement with your mental health.

I have attended professional help for addiction and other issues, but there was not consistent improvement. I firmly believe that the only way to overcome my addiction is to live in my own place away from my parents, and having a computer without the technical features to allow gaming. My situation is very complex because there are a lot of factors in play.

Why do you have suicidal tendencies? How did your whole illness start?

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>>76599195
I got him some worms from the gas station, turns out they are dyed green for whatever reason and his poops are neon green now as a result. The dye isn't toxic and will go away on its own however until the worms shed the dye it will keep coming back if he keeps eating them. I just released them in the kiddie pool so they are under the dirt somewhere

>>76598374
drank a bit too much last night, and went to bed at 3am, which led to me waking up late and not well rested, which is currently kind of ruining my day and now it's 3pm and I still haven't showered.

How do you fix this

>>76599228
i was pretty certain he was chillin' in antifreeze. thanks for putting my mind at ease.

>>76598374
Pretty good. Though I weighed myself both in the morning and after workout and there was a 600g/1.3 lbs of difference which weirded me out a bit since I don't think I sweated 1.3 lbs of water. Leaving that aside, everything is going fine. Slow and steady wins the race.

I want to change jobs but the current economy has got me scared
I just want a less toxic workplace and more money
Thankfully I'm slowly pulling myself out of debt and can move out of my parents by the end of the year

>>76598486
real

>>76599247
Naw, I cleaned it out just now too, first time I've been home.today. did you get a chance to check out that mocktail?

>>76599228
I thought it was an old paint thing lmao. You can get worms from a pet shop. They also eat plants but idk what kind exactly. I think you can buy grass from most pet shops now that you could even plant in his enclosure. It’s called pet grass I don’t think it’s cat nip just literally a grass that animals eat. But probably needs a wide range of stuff to thrive. Some fruit some berries some greens bugs etc, think the type of shit he would find in your area. I think they’ll even eat mushrooms


Looked it up, as adults they eat mostly plants but still like some meat (bugs)
>Common plant foods include berries, dandelions, lettuce, kale, squash, and tomatoes flowers fruits veggies
You could most likely grow most of those yourself in your backyard with minimal equipment then have free food for him and yourself

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>>76599190
he looks A-DORAble! can you also pet his little head? maybe you can put some stones too, for climbing and more water if he likes it so much? like some kind of parkour

>>76599228
>/fit/ bathing its pets in gatorade
but why was your bathwater pink? are the neon worms for fishing? beautiful pattern, no wonder turtle carried the world, if their shell is made of resonance. are you keeping him?

Talking to turtle anon just now made me realize, I’m not living. He’s living. He’s doing stuff. Look at him. He’s sleeping outdoors, he’s got a turtle friend he’s rehabilitating. Every day is the same for me. I wake up at 2am work until 4pm get home and sleep by 8pm. I do nothing. I have a 3 day weekend and all I wanna do is lay around.


I could go to the store get myself new fishing line some new lures and go fishing like I used to, at least it’s something. For fucks sake I live on the beach but I’m too fat to make use of it. I have all this opportunity in front of me and km letting it slip me by. I want to live and experience stuff. I feel like an NPC in a town that the main character hasn’t even discovered yet. I want to be the main character of my story not this same fucking lay around and rot and play world of Warcraft on my weekends bullshit. For fucks sake I want to feel things I want to push myself to get fit again and feel the miserable parts of it at least then I’m alive. And I can’t seem to just get moving. I have a dozen other issues but at least I could cope with them if I know I did cool shit each week instead of “I have xyz outsmarting problems and also I only doom scrolled and beat off all weekend”

>>76599334
Outstanding* not outsmarting


I’m getting more enjoyment out of anons turtle journey than with anything I’ve personally done in years because I have done nothing

>>76598567
Seconded. There's nothing left of interest in life and anything that is isn't worth the squeeze. I'd unironically like to travel but will not put up with the clusterfuck it entails. I'm 30 and feel like I'm in my retirement era where I will just wait to die when I run out of money.

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>>76599331
>but why was your bathwater pink?
It was orange from filling it up with carrot bits. When I found Chuck he was increadibly dehydrated and his eyes were swollen shut. A quick google search taught me that the swollen eyes was from a vitamin A deficiency and that I could fix it by putting him in carrot water. Basically it force fed him carrots while he was drinking water to rehydrate and it fixed both issues after a few days.
>are the neon worms for fishing?
Yes, there are no pet stores near me since i live deep in the sticks so its gas station and digging them up myself unless i want to make a 1.5hr milk run
>beautiful pattern, no wonder turtle carried the world, if their shell is made of resonance.
Well said
>are you keeping him?
Not decided, maybe once fall hits I'll let him go burrowing since I have no clue how to take care of him

>>76598795
Good luck desu. I met my soon to be wife at university as well (I was a complete autist), just force yourself to be social and you will be grateful for it later. I also recommend not solely going in to date someone as it can put a lot of pressure in you, just try to make friends and see where the opportunities it opens leads you.

>>76598374
I herniated a disc a few months ago and every time I think it's healed I'll sleep wrong and aggravate it again.
I'm not sure what to do anymore.
Do I start popping oxies and blaming the sacklers?

>>76599089
I feel ya, sort of in the same boat in many aspects. The only thing to do is to just keep on pushing, all the cheesy shit; hobbies, lifting weights, focusing on gf and drinking at reasonable times (my current is every 3rd weekend but then I go all in fri-sun). We can only hope it gets better with time.

>>76599089
>I'm losing faith in myself. I doubt I can be happy. I used to think fixing things about my life I'd stop feeling so shitty all the time, but while some things I've accomplished do feel good, they don't change that I baseline feel like shit all the time. I used to blame feeling like shit on actual things that felt like shit, like not having a gf or friends, being out of shape, not having money or a job or purpose etc, but even with those things sorted out I still feel like shit, except I can't quite point out why. there's nothing left to fix, sure there are challenges every day, but the more I grow, the better my life is, the more I just wanna drink myself to oblivion all the time
I've kind of had the same sentiment for a while, where it's like everything in my life is getting better, but I don't feel any better for it.

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>>76599334
>>76599349
I appreciate it bro. I try really hard to enjoy my life while I'm young enough to still. Watching a lot of people.that I care about wither away the last year and a half really made me kick my life into gear and I spend a lot more time doing the stuff I always wanted to instead of watching those things through other people on YouTube. I pretty much fail at everything but it's never from a lack of trying

>>76599055
As someone who recently lost their virginity this way, if you don’t have any reservations about your first time feeling special and being an asshole, go for it. Physically it feels good obviously, but emotionally I felt bad the whole time because I was using her. Using her is what you’re proposing, no? Know that if you do, you should be prepared for the emotional fallout from her. It is asshole behavior, but it’s also ripping off the bandaid finally.

Also you better be sure she actually wants to fuck you and that you’re not just making it up.

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40 year old virgin here. firstly im sick and tired of everyone sobbing about relationships here. man up
in serious news, my left forearm outside muscle is still kinda weak after i pulled it. LAST EASTER. wtf
in other news magnesium rules.
1 arm hangs are killing me.
broke my little toe last week when i bumped it into the door. it stil hurts.
the older i get the more i work out to white girl music. the last lady gaga dance song is a fucking killer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGaZBfJOyAc
im seriously not gay. the song just slaps ong.

>>76599989
>im seriously not gay
>40 year old virgin

>>76599089
I know that feel anon. I use to get joy in life from simple shit, even watching a show I liked would put me in a good mood. Now I feel like I get bo joy from anything. I can make real progress in life and it feels like nothing, it all feels pointless.

I want a vodka redbull: I am consumed by obssessive compulsive thoughts to kill people, In my head I am told that I cannot acclimate to a new job because I am not "fast enough" for employers, I am afraid of hurting myself in every little task. My only hope for fighting my obsessions is bjj and yet it doesnt feel like its enough. I do not know what I am to be and if I can overcome the grip my obsessions have over my mind.

>>76600115
You should unironically seek help

>>76600156
Im trying to fix myself with meds and sleep but sometimes the obsessions get so Intense that I have to do something to stop the episode

>>76600172
Kinda cringe ngl

>>76600183
What could I do different that isnt cringe?

>>76598931
Don't underestimate the little things that keep you going.

Long island iced tea, I dont know what I want to be in the next 5 years

Just soda water for me.
I convinced my GP to give me oral min today for my hair loss. I managed to stop the hair loss with the finasteride, but after six months haven't seen any regrowth, I'm hoping the min will change that so I don't need to do the lame combover. I'm still lucky enough to be able to do the combover, but it could be better.
I've also started to steadily lose weight again.
WAGMI

>>76600004
As has been said countless times: older virgins are almost never that way because of being gay, or having too high standards, or being ugly. It’s because they have no social skills

>the only hobby I have is officiating sports
>usually spend my weekends doing it, it gets me outside and also earns money
>today I had a soccer game, boys under 19 (highest age group before college/adult), at the highest level league
>for anyone who knows soccer, game ended with 8 yellow cards (4 each) and two second yellow reds (one for each)
>really feel like shit about my performance having it end up like that, and when it’s the only thing you’re good at and enjoy, it’s a really tough feeling

blueberry juice plz

anyone got any book recommendations on dealing with being a sad little unwanted chuddy

therapy is simply too expensive for me right now


yes i know getting out there and being a part of shit is probably the best thing i can do but, easier said than done for me right now i guess

>>76600858
>dealing with being a sad little unwanted chuddy
No book is going to help and you know it. Go outside. But if I were to make a recommendation, check out The Man the Moment Demands by Jason Wilson

>>76600875
yeah, nice to think it might though, i'll check it out, should keep me busy at least, thanks anon

>>76598374
I cured my sleep apnea completely by cutting out sucralose. It was absolutely insane. For the first time, I didn't wake up with a pounding heartbeat or headache and gasping for breath. I never realized it could be so simple. I'm feeling really motivated to make other changes in my life now.

>>76600858
The Catcher in the Rye

>>76598374
I've lost 5 kg in a few months. Without even exercising: I had to stop because I started a rather physical job and just started exercising again a few weeks ago. I've lost some size but gained muscle definition. After years of neet depression I kind of feel all right. Life is simple now: I work, sleep, exercise and play music. I've never had (realistic) goals in my life but everything is better now that I just work, have good sleep hygiene and focus on the instant, especially playing live instants. They fill my feel good tank up to the next gig without making me crave them. I haven't been this ok for this long since childhood. Turns out I didn't need an amazing life, just a balanced one. Would recommend.

>>76601005
I have this but it gives me no joy and makes me feel empty

>>76601070
Get depression and manage to cure yourself, you'll get it. Also, anhedonia (things once enjoyed not enjoyed anymore) is an alarming symptom of depression, which you can have with or without sadness: other negative emotions such as anger, resentment fear or despair will do.

>>76599089
Stop drinking unironically, drinking is a depressant and it is adding to your self loathing.

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Honestly I just feel empty in life. Not to be one of those le wrong generation fags but I just hate the modern world. I hate modern dating, I hate smart phones, I hate the Internet (I understand the irony of this), I hate modern TV snd Films and games, I hate how everyone in my city is now a foreigner, I hate how all the woodlands have been demolished and turned into housing estates etc etc why couldn't I have gotten to live my 30s and 40s in the 1980s and 1990s. I just can't help but feel like I missed out in getting to live my life in a time that would have suited me as a person perfectly. But instead I get this era of pure slop.

>>76601887
Then leave the modern world behind. That is, if you really wanted to

>>76600858
Ham on Rye by Charles Bukowski.

>group of friends made at gym last year
>they all do zyns, say nicotine stimulant is great for focus
>have never been interested until lately
>gas station is out of zyns, cashier says they have grizzly which is same thing
>buy a can and decide to try it
>sit down in car and pop one
>within 30 seconds, limbs are tingling, start losing motor control
>slumped over in car slightly panicked I'm having allergic reaction, spit it out
>call friend and ask what the fuck
>friend asks what dose I bought
>there are doses?!
>number on can says 12mg
>he says zyns max out at 9mg, I bought the super strong shit
>having no nicotine tolerance, fucked me up immediately
>tells me buy a piece of candy to keep my blood sugar up and balance the nicotine, I should feel okay after an hour
>even though I spit it out almost immediately, feel fucked up for 30 minutes
jesus. /blogpost

>>76602075
That is what you get for caving to peer pressure

>>76602077
They've never even peer pressured me, I was just curious man

>>76602082
Even worse then, a self own.

>>76601887
I know this feel, why must life be like this.

Everyday we slip closer to hell

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Started going to gym every day, its been 3 weeks now and this is my schedule so far
>mon
30 mins hard cardio (stair machine, bike)
30-45 mins - leg workout
1 hour mins - sauna (2 x 20 minute sessions, 20 mins in a pool, relaxing)
>tues
30 mins hard cardio (stair machine, bike)
30-45 mins - biceps/triceps workout
1 hour mins - sauna (2 x 20 minute sessions, 20 mins in a pool, relaxing)
>wed
30 mins hard cardio (stair machine, bike)
30-45 mins - chest workout (my least favourite day desu)
1 hour mins - sauna (2 x 20 minute sessions, 20 mins in a pool, relaxing)
>thurs
30 mins hard cardio (stair machine, bike)
30-45 mins - shoulders workout
1 hour mins - sauna (2 x 20 minute sessions, 20 mins in a pool, relaxing)
>fri
30 mins hard cardio (step machine, bike)
30-45 mins - back workout
1 hour mins - sauna (2 x 20 minute sessions, 20 mins in a pool, relaxing)
desu my upper body is pretty chubby but I have broad shoulders and very muscular legs/calves (I was just gifted with these) obviously there has been no progress yet but I have been feeling really good. I usually only eat 1 meal a day (800 grams around 3pm each day. What do you guys think? I am only new to this and haven't put much research in.

>>76602378
Must be nice being a neet

>>76602378
I forgot to add I am
>30
>5'9
>100kg/220pound
>>76602392
I am currently working nightshifts so I have been able to take advantage of an empty gym during the days, will definitely change when I get put back on days

>>76602403
Ah fair enough, nightshifts are comfy as fuck because you don't have to deal with normies.

>>76602420
>normies
faggot

>>76602424
t. normie

YESTERDAY WAS SQUAT DAY
TODAY IS ASS-HURT DAY
REEEEEE
Screwdriver, please.

>>76602343
>started working at 7
>for 8 hours feeling alienated and numb, bored and overstrained with corporate brainslop
>take the wrong train
>1 hour and double the price later crashing down after cereals
>wake up to dark sky
>3 hours left to pay bills, cook and clean for another day
i feel like i have commited spiritual crime and i dont know how to live in this world

>>76602427
you forgot your meme arrow

Test

>>76602460
Modern adult life is just a slog. You spend 40+ hours a week doing some mindless drone work and another 10+ hours traveling to work or being stuck in traffic. Then you're supposed to spend all the little free time you have endlessly improving yourself so you can keep doing the mindless drone work until you're 90 since the government will never let you retire.

>>76602464
Fake natties be like

>>76602473
>be like
nigger

>>76602378
are the sauna gains worth it? i am neet and can afford new gym membership. one is for a year with pool and sauna but jam packed with families and their kids on weekends and after school hours and mornings. you also get free classes to socialize with other people but there is also intense pilates you have to pay or hot yoga and stuff.

the other one is your general adults/teens only gym with weights and cardio machines. is a rec centre worth the extra money if you don't have kids?

>>76602488
me when I'm a zoomer

>>76602511
I don't think I have had any gains yet, but I feel fucking unreal coming out of a sauna it definitely does something beneficial I am just not sure what yet. It's like a little treat after a workout, I also use them at the beach and then go for cold swims. They are great for mental strength as well

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>>76598374
You should start adding a thread theme song every week.

My vote is https://youtu.be/oxHnRfhDmrk?si=rUangRhTJo2-Rktg

>>76602518
i wish i had a sauna culture where saunas are ubiquitous like that. here you have to either buy a private one or get a gym membership.

>>76602466
i have ways to keep space for myself, but it is a daily opposition.

>>76600858
The goldfinch by Donna tartt
You can either relate as Theo or Andy or even Boris if you’re a druggy no life.

>>76599928
She does. Asked me out 3 times so far and no signs of stopping but she's also much crazier than the average woman.

>>76603339
Tell her a half-truth that you aren't really actively looking for a serious long-term relationship right now, but want to experience life as it unfolds or some shit like that, so you are interested in going for a date with her and seeing where it leads to, who knows kek. That way, at least if she's still into it, you'll be relatively guilt-free if it eventually turns into fucking. It'd probably be a good experience, just don't overthink it and be good to her if she's even half-decent in any way.

It wasn't supposed to be like this

>wake up
>remember I’m 33 still living with mommy and daddy
>go to my godawful job that I’m too afraid to leave
>waste every single day doing nothing
>have no friends to talk to
>have no gf, no kids, no family
>have no goals for the future
>spend every waking moment thinking about how I’m so far behind and so pathetic, how there’s nothing I even want from life
>realize I’m too afraid to kill myself and I’ll just suffer living like this for decades unless I get lucky enough to die in an accident or cancer or something

>>76604032
Do you have a brother?

>>76604032
Have you tried getting a better job so you can move out and get your own place?

WAKE ME UP

>>76604032
get a second job, save a bunch of money, get your own place, get a gf, and tell your parents to suck a dick. if you're going to be miserable anyway you may as well have money.

I am 32 and I will most likely spend the rest of my life alone. I just have no idea how to talk to women, I just sperg out around them and I fucking hate myself. Also at this age they all have kids and I have no interest in raising someone's kid for them. Forever alone it is.

was about to write a post about being 31 and directionless but seems there's a whole boat of us floating aimlessly

isn't this /fit/ aren't you guys meant to be chads? whats with the sob stories

>>76604483
some things are harder to lift

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>>76598374
gf broke up with me over whatsapp at 3am this morning. said I was being suffocating. I feel hollow, I'll miss her.

>>76604582
You sound suffocating

I will be better!

>>76604483
>>76604476
i am fairly aware, that neither my case nor me engaging in filth and slop makes me a particular exception. but one is allowed to pretend, to give it a break

>>76598374
I’ve been too anxious to work out at this new gym so I’ve only been doing compound lifts on a friend’s squat rack for the past year. I feel like a fucking retard because I’ve driven to this gym like 5 times but just sat in the parking lot for 20mins before going home. Give me a drink that kills me man.

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>>76598374
It has been awhile since I posted in one of these threads. Ended up getting a gf by luck off a dating app (not tinder). Had some issues since she is aut but so far have been able to handle it. Got a better job, but had to promise my soul to the government for the next few years. Talking to people actual in it, it is what I expected. So I will try and just get my training, work hard, and get what I can from it.

Besides that, I haven't been doing much in terms of actually "improving" myself. I spend all my free time just mindlessly watching videos. Instead of making the decision to, I just kind of naturally default to it. It is a struggle to actually do anything else, but once I do it, I feel better.

>>76598374
>sister is my landlord
>wants to go over my apartment to get something while I’m at work
>very possibly have a pile of condoms in my dresser, used fleshlight on the coffee table with baby oil next to it
>very possibly there is a list of 2026 goals right next to the thing she’s grabbing and the 3rd thing is “I WANNAAAAA FUUUUUUUCCCCKKKK I WAAAANT PUUUUSSSYYYY I WAANNAA FUCK THICK LATINA BITCHES AND ASIAN BITCHES before it goes into detail as to how I will fuck these bitches and what I need to fix and sort out first
>might be a to do list for the week and the last item is “beat off”
I told her I would just drop it off when I’m off work and she never replied which could mean she dumb woman’d it into “this is my place I can go there any time I want” and in which case it’s HER problem if she sees something she wasn’t supposed to. And she would absolutely start snooping through my shit.
>tfw sister gonna see the XL magnum condoms and worn out fleshlight

I think I’m going to take the plunge into absolute discomfort and really go for it guys. This would be my daily routine
>mon-thurs
Wake 2am, cold shower immediately. Go on walk until 3am. Shit shave shower.lift mon thurs, when adjusted lift mon weds fri. 2-4 eggs, greek yogurt, honey for breakfast. Work 5-330, home by 4-440 depending on traffic. Do 1 chore (trash vacuum laundry etc). Shower. Meditate. Eat dinner, approx 1700 calories. Relax for couple hours, sleep by 8:30Pm.
>fri sat sun
230am wake, walk lift etc. Fish 5am-8am depending on weather and tide. If successful clean and eat fish for dinner.
At some point read and put actual progress into making money online whether that’s social media or just researching. On Friday or Saturday will spend some amount of time improving apartment and DIYing stuff, going to start with painting and adding flood moulding so I have less stuff to keep safe. Two weekends should be plenty to paint the entire thing. 3 months should have the whole place transformed if my finances allow. Relax most of day. Sleep whenever feel like it.

>>76604974
Aut issues in what way?
>>76605040
Well anon I went into shared apartment with my sister and she’s an absolute pigsty. I was gone for half a year.

She bakes (messy) and there was uncleaned months of accumulated flour + sugar grime on the floors and counters, sand in the bed, empty Starbucks containers littered throughout, empty tea and coffee mugs everywhere, moldy bubble tea plastic cups by the windowsill, and layers of dust on every surface.

Funniest thing: her manifestation vision board.
>I WILL get a 6ft5+ 8-pack abbed Adonis who is a doctor and a liberal leftist white
I kek’d so hard when I saw thought I instantly forgave her for the mess she made. Can’t help but feel sorry for a career driven single 30 year old woman.

>>76605067
oh shut the fuck up, you won't do any of it, stop with the hyper efficient retardation and focus on one thing

Hurt my back because this girl with a big ass asked to use the rack behind me and I felt like we had a connection so I was doing all these retarded deadlift variations for an hour because I didn't want to leave

>>76605067
Man finds happiness and success through the will to power and accomplishment that comes from working towards goals. He doesn't achieve it through little rituals. You should skip to the last part.

>>76604483
Chads have feelings too.

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>>76598374
>mfw not even gym, spice, and meditation can't help me cope today
I seriously need a drink tomorrow.

>>76605303
Drinking just causes more pain in the long run

>>76605348
What to do then?
Just open GTA and start shooting people?

>>76605349
Read philosophy

>>76605352
Already read some buddhist books, and Marcus book.
Might hope onto Aristotle after I finish this chess book/

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>32
>Good job - £60k a year
>Own my own home
>In the best shape of my life
>Should be happy but
>No friends
>No social life
>No gf
>Just spend every weekend alone in my house
>Feel no direction or ambition in life
I need to find my purpose

>>76605727
Literally me

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>>76598374
bros, I'm thinking about going to therapy for the first time. I've always called it a scam, and my opinion hasn't changed. I have the self-awareness to understand my issues and most of their causes, and I strongly believe I can guess all the "solutions" and "insights" the therapist will offer. But I have no one to talk to. I literally do not have a friend. I am so fucking lonely I am considering dropping ~$200 just to talk to someone irl who will listen to me. But I spend most of my days contemplating suicide so I guess the money doesn't matter all that much anyway.
Thoughts on this?

Also I was going to go hiking around Mount Rainier today but I got COVID, I think from a rave (would recommend, without the COVID) I went to last week. This blows.
Thoughts on Mount Rainier?

Also I am unemployed (not quite hurting for cash yet), but that's more of a /g/ thing.

>>76605809
Get a job instead of therapy unironically

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>>76604032
damn, are you me? same age and everything, except dad's dead

>>76605809
Anon, get a job, the fuck are you thinking of (((therapy))) for when you don't have a means of getting income?

And yes, go hike up Rainer without killing yourself doing it, being alone in nature is always better than talking to a therapist as a man

>>76605809
There's ChatGPT for that now. Just don't get too attached like some of those turdlingers over in r/ChatGPT did.

>>76604032
>>76605823
I'm in a similar boat except 2 years older and my dead is also dead. But I do have friends (but most of them live out of state) and a business (but my financial situation is pretty shit, at least for now, but there is hope although certainly not guaranteed). As far as goals, for me at this point, it's pretty much just to be able to afford my own place so I can have a wife and start a family.

I have such a despair of how I've wasted my entire adult life up to this point, both financially and "romantically". It should have been so simple since I live at home for free to get any job like a fucking normie and save enough to comfortable move out by my late 20s. Instead of grinding daily I bet everything that someday in the ambiguous future I'd somehow get rich. And in the meantime I never saw myself as "good enough" for a gf even though I could have attained one and now my total lack of relationship experience is yet another obstacle to overcome (women can sense these things). On top of that, I broke my dick w/ porn over 10 years ago - and although it has recently gotten better it still can't get as hard as I think it should.

Anyway, there are a lot of people in our situation and it is not hopeless. I've been kicking ass at the gym for a while now and I'm not going to stop trying in the other currently failing aspects of my life. WAGMI

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>>76605809
Find your local 12 steps group instead, who cares if it's narcotics anonymous, alcoholics anonymous or whatever else, it's like free therapy and you get to hang out with cool people with different mental illnesses.

I go to 12 steps groups and i have a lot of self-awareness and i put a lot of work in getting "normal" but i had to start therapy as well because there's so much shit going underneath my rational thinking and conscience i need someone else to help pick it apart as i'm talking about shit i can't say anywhere else except for 4chan (but here no one fucking cares and in most cases you get called a faggot and told to kill yourself). But i'm paying to, like, vent in a safe enviroment, with no mask, with no (at least, immediate, but i don't give a fuck if a therapist goes "wow this guy is a fucking incel loser LMAO" in their free time) judgement, and as i'm venting some things i don't usually notice AT ALL get brought to light.

Adding Bocchi to this post because this drawing is pretty cool

>>76598958
>Once her mother got in her head the relationship was cooked. All of a sudden it all became about the money. Which is so sad because she was never like that at all.
This is why you also vet the mother. Similar thing happened to me, her mother was a shriveled up old hag that treated her husband like shit, even in front of her daughter and myself

Eventually, she manipulated her daughter too much. Women are too easily influenced by peer pressure. Don't blame it all on her mother, though, she made her own decisions

See it as a blessing, she wasn't ride or die.

>>76599039
Retard. Married men get broken in half all the time. He got lucky it ended that way

I got friendzoned but I really don't know why. I guess they don't even need a reason half the time.

>>76602075
I'm a regular nicotine user but I stick to the very lowest dose. Was visiting Ukraine before the war and picked up what I thought was a low dose pack at a gas station. Turned out it was 21mg per pouch instead of 2.1, and nearly puked in the National War Museum. Hopefully all the locals thought that I was just disgusted by Ukraine's suffering while I was hunched over the trash can... High dose nicotine also smells horrific, like if you left a cum sock in your gym bag for a week.

I'm doing pushups and shadow boxing and getting high and these recent happenings have me convinced to stay inside forever and to consider trying BJJ or carrying a fighting baton

>>76605194
I already do 90% of this. 2 things were added to my normal routine. This is your cue to shut your mouth faggot
>>76605223
Nah I think I’ll keep doing what’s working

>>76605809
You go to raves alone?

>>76605809
try it out, its worth an experience. if you get a bit deflated or hit a plateau, take it like a workout, you need different moves, or weight, just another type of friction. but also stay around long enough until you soften to the idea. that is the sweet spot to see how or what kind of therapy suits you. good luck.

>>76606318
I did already know the mother was insane, I just told myself I could fix my ex to the point where she wouldn't end up like her mother
Yes she would treat her husband like shit in front of us the exact same way you say
It sucks because I feel bad for the daughter (my ex) but you are right I can't blame it 100% on the mother
For sure it's a sort of blessing in disguise. A great opportunity to focus on myself.

>>76606816
>I just told myself I could fix my ex to the point where she wouldn't end up like her mother
Which is wrong, I also learned this the hard way. Best predictor for how a girl will be? Look at her mother.

>I feel bad
Don't, it was her own choice

It's definitely a blessing because imagine getting dumped after committing to marriage, kids, a mortgage, etc. That shit is rope fuel

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>>76604136
>Have you tried getting a better job
>>76604397
>get a second job
are you guys boomers detached from reality just shitposting or do you live in a place where the economy would allow that. im not him but i used to work construction in my 20s and i could barely afford gas. what would get my through the day was an honest promise to myself that i would kill myself when i got back home. lying to myself every single day kept me going for almost 10 years. now in my 30s i live with my mom with no money but without a care in the world and i don't even have regrets. working low wage blue collar sucks. but there's nothing else really where i live.

>>76604032
What stops you from going out and meeting people?
What stops you from getting a better job?
What stops you from moving out?
What stops you from killing yourself?

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>>76606862
>but there's nothing else really where i live.

Zogbot here; there is always another option

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i think i need someone to slap my shit back into reality
i think my gf has a "work husband" or some bullshit like that, i've had a bad feeling in my gut about this for a couple of weeks now at least. for context we're both residents but we work at different hospitals.
a few days ago she didn't pick up my call and when i checked her location she wasn't home, it looked like her car was parked near some apartment complex. when we met up later on i asked her what she was up to before i arrived and she said nothing, then i pretended to tease her and say oh did you miss my call because you were napping. she denied it and then i played dumb and was like oh then what were you doing. she said getting ice cream but didn't elaborate. then i played dumb again and said why did you go get ice cream by yourself. and then she finally said she got ice cream with the guy i'm suspicious of. the problem is i don't know where he lives so i can't say for sure that she was at his apartment complex, but why else would she lie?
also, she said she went to a specific ice cream shop, but that ice cream shop is nowhere near the place i checked her location at.
anyways because i'd been suspicious i checked her text messages when she was in the shower, i only had like 5 seconds to do it but i saw that the guy texted her sweet dreams with emojis and she texted that shit back to him.
they're definitely fucking right? i can't tell if i'm being a paranoid retard or if i'm coping extra hard by calling myself a paranoid retard. either way texting like that to another man when you're not in a relationship feels wrong.
i don't know what to feel man. i don't know how to ask her about this without coming off as a loser and ruining the relationship anyways.

>>76606903
i should clarify the emojis are fucking heart emojis. i can't imagine how she could do that unless she's just cheating on me.
and there's other random shit too. she had been picking up my calls less and she was always talking about this guy too.
we don't live together so it's not like we see each other every night either so she has ample opportunity.
idk guys the more i type this out the more it feels like i'm getting played.

>>76606903
Confront her directly about everything that has made you uncomfortable. Trust your gut instincts, they're there for a reason

If you don't feel respect, if she redirects blame and avoids answers, dump her. Find another bitch and fuck her so you forget her more easily

>>76606903
>either way texting like that to another man when you're not in a relationship feels wrong.
This is why you set clear boundaries anon. Don't tolerate shit that doesn't feel right

Bless you, hope it works out in a way that's best for you

>>76606963
>>76606969
genuinely asking, how do i confront her about this? the only reason i have anything to go off of here is because i'm constantly location snooping when she thinks i'm busy or i took a second to look through her phone without her knowledge. admitting this to her feels like i'm starting off with a defeat in the conversation.
i'm worried that if she's been this good at lying to me already that she'll be able to manipulate me further and keep a potential affair going on behind my back because i'm not approaching this with any evidence, just what feels like jealousy that there is attention from another male towards her.

>>76606989
Brother, set clear boundaries. Define what it is that she's done that you find unacceptable and tell her. I read your post again, her going for ice cream with some other dude and lying to you about it is definitely a fucking huge red flag. It doesn't mean she's fucked him, necessarily, but it means she doesn't respect you

Tell her that you have reasons to suspect she's being unfaithful, and to explain what's happening to you. If her answer feels off and she doesn't solve the issue with you, leave.

Honestly, given what you said, I'd just dump her. You have that card up your sleeve. Leave with a power move, she's not respecting you anyway. And don't reach out to her again

>>76606989
I think there‘s an expected sense of decorum that snooping becomes retroactively wrong only if you don‘t find anything. I would go in with what you know; and if she essentially admits to it but tries to turn the tables on you based on how you found out then the most important thing is that you start packing your bags mentally even if you don‘t feel up to standing your ground in the moment (which you should, but these things do knock the fight out of you and a lot of men simply don‘t know how to process girls‘ weird emotional tricks.)

>>76605814
>>76605827
...do you guys think I'm not trying? If it was as easy as stopping by the job store on my way home from Girlfriend Park, do you think I would be in this situation?

>>76605986
>Fight Club alternate ending

>>76606650
Well it was my second one ever, but so far yes.

>>76606696
>stay around long enough
man what the fuck, I was thinking more like one session, maybe a single follow-up.

>>76607008
>>76607009
okay
thanks
like i said, i think i just needed to air this out and get some perspective. i agree that there seems to be a pattern of disrespect even if she isn't actively cheating
appreciate it bruvs

>>76606989
Look through her phone again when you get a chance that's longer. Pictures, messages, notes, etc. Even messages with her friends

>>76607017
>pattern of disrespect even if she isn't actively cheating
Disrespect is usually followed by cheating, though. Remember, you can dump her first. Tell us how it goes anon, whatever you decide to do, just don't be a bitch, sometimes it's better to be alone for a while.

>>76607019
>Tell us how it goes anon, whatever you decide to do, just don't be a bitch, sometimes it's better to be alone for a while.
we've been together for a few years.
i was planning on proposing in a little over a year.
there's something about this gut feeling i can't shake.
this conversation is going to fucking suck man.

>>76605809
Vantucky anon reporting, I'm with you fren

>>76607031
As guys we have that instinct so we avoid getting cucked, so it's very fine tuned. If you have that gut feeling + evidence, well...

>i was planning on proposing
That sucks man.

>>76607031
I didn't have the talk with my first wife and found out she was having an affair for 8 years with a dude on the DL and only got caught because she took pictures that I found of them in my bed when I got home from deployment. I know that there is the lol Jody meme but there is a reason it happens so often. The only reason it's a meme for us is because we are gone long enough for the significant others to get complacent and slip up. You all don't have that luxury

>>76607041
>>76607052
one thing that actually started making me suspicious is that we used to send each other stupid instagram reels all the time, and over the past couple months she all of a sudden stopped watching the stuff i'd send her, and she kept saying she was so busy she didn't get a chance to open the messages. which is a decent excuse, we're both surgeons. but i think i gave a little too much away over the weekend because my mood was down and i think she thinks i'm suspicious. today she's sent me four reels on instagram. haven't opened a single one and i ignored a facetime call from her a few hours ago.
i feel like i'm blogging i think i'm going to go to the gym again and spam bench until i can't anymore.

>>76607070
>and over the past couple months she all of a sudden stopped watching the stuff i'd send her, and she kept saying she was so busy she didn't get a chance to open the messages.
When she stops seeking your attention that's not a good sign, it can mean she's getting it somewhere else. Could also mean she's busy, but if she's breaking consistent patterns that have persisted over a long time... Yeah

Anyhow, don't recycle thoughts, just face her anon.

>>76607070
The dumb little sentimental stuff is always the hardest to let go. Don‘t overexert yourself as you might be riding gym therapy out of this for a while to come.

Damn you guys are cringe

>>76604075
No I am an only child
>>76604136
>>76604397
The pathetic thing is that even if I lived on my own, my life would not change. It isn’t like I would suddenly become some social guy and happy and successful. I would just be miserable in a place alone or more likely with roommates in my 30s.
>>76605823
My dad will probably die soon. He had a heart attack last month.
>>76606870
>what stops you from meeting people
The shame of my pathetic life
>what stops you from a better job
That I have no skills, no self confidence, and a repellant autistic personality, not to mention the job market nowadays, there’s not even a point in a worthless retard like me trying
>what stops you from moving out
Not caring because my life will always be shit regardless
>what stops you from killing your self
The same cowardice that led me to this point in the first place. If I wasn’t a coward I would have killed myself 15 years ago and saved so much misery

>>76607379
You get one go around in life anon. You can live it how you see fit but you have to ask yourself. Do you want to look back and realise you never even tried? You just gave up right away? Kinda bitch made.

I want to go back to before 2010.

If you are reading this anon, I'm sending you my love.

>>76608091
Thanks man, I think we all need to hear some more positivity after browsing the horrors in this fucking website

>>76605809
I'm gonna go against the current and say you spend that money to scratch the itch and gain your own real opinion on the matter for the rest of your life

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>>76607379
>The shame of my pathetic life
Doesn't stop the drug addicts and alcoholics from experiencing life
>That I have no skills, no self confidence, and a repellant autistic personality, not to mention the job market nowadays, there’s not even a point in a worthless retard like me trying
>Not caring because my life will always be shit regardless
You gave up before you even tried while also preemtively devaluing yourself.

Listen my guy, i'm kind-of sort-of in your position right now but i'm working on myself and my life is getting better. It can get better. It will get better. You just have to try. That's it. You're free to ignore my message and continue to rot but if you don't, there's an entire world waiting for you.

I would give anything to not be a sperg around women. WHY AM I LIKE THIS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

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I'm gonna use my nofap powers to harass women until one of them fucks me

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>>76607082
>>76607091
updating because one of you asked.
i confronted her about it.
she immediately apologized. she said that she doesn't want me to feel uncomfortable about what she's doing or who she's hanging out with. she did emphasize that she really's sorry that she upset me and that she's going to be better about communicating with me. i did appreciate that.
what i didn't like is that i asked her point blank a few times if the guy respects the fact she's in a relationship and he doesn't do things like send her good morning/good night texts. she said no, obviously a lie. at least i know for a fact that he's sent a sweet dreams text with a heart emoji which she mirrored back to him. when i asked her why she didn't just tell me she's getting ice cream, first she said she doesn't remember the conversation going that way, then she said that she didn't realize she was being dodgy with the phrasing, then she said that she was nervous and thought i'd be upset she's hanging out with that guy so she didn't want to say anything. so another lie.
i couldn't bring myself to ask her if she was actually getting ice cream and see if i could make her admit she was at his apartment or not. i was too weak.
i don't know man. i think i'm being a fool in love and i'm being optimistic that i'm just a dumbass who read too far into nothing. i think this doesn't end well for me.

>>76609938
>at least i know for a fact that he's sent a sweet dreams text with a heart emoji which she mirrored back to him.
Anon... Thanks for the update. I was the one that asked for it

> i think this doesn't end well for me.
That depends on what you do next. Like I said, you have the upper hand in that she's not expecting you to leave, do it, take that power move.

She just confirmed that she's at the very least emotionally cheating on you and not respecting you, and that will escalate to physical cheating and you will be made a cuck. The writing is on the wall

You know what you have to do, anon, you feel it in your gut. Leave. It's hard to do it because you feel emotionally invested, but you have to do it.

I don't want to see an anon getting cucked.

>>76609950
He needs to check her phone again and get definitive proof. Shes gonna try to gaslight the shit out of him if he confronts her about it

>>76609960
Nah, she's already lied and is probably too cowardly to come clean. He needs to strike preemptively and leave

Asking for more justification or looking for more proof will show him weak and what he might find will be more damaging to him.

The best option right now is to leave with as much dignity intact.

>>76606903
just dump her

>>76609938
she lied to you and is still lying to you. just leave.

There's a nigger that goes to my gym that lingers and does fuck all, walking around in circles, moving equipment. Be blasts music. Small place, often me and him. I should plant an airtag on his car, follow him home and cut his tires.

Doing great besides that. Not really, but what can you do

>>76610621
>what can you do
nothing, because you're a pussy

>>76610624
We can meet up IRL whenever you want, deadman

>>76610627
how will i find you without an airtag :(

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Wasted the entire day posting on 4chins again...

>just had another screaming and crying breakdown on the floor like a toddler to my mother about how I cant take it anymore and how much I want to die
33 years old by the way. There is no reason for someone as pathetic as me to exist.

>>76610652
same... i was gonna work but something happened

>>76610732
no video
no dideo

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Everything feels so hopeless.

>>76610810
Uhhh based?

>see video of charlie kirk getting shot and died instantly while blood sprayed out of his carotid artery
>instantly feel jealous of him and wish it was me instead

anon, i had a bad day. whats the turtle doing?

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>>76611566
Morning shell tickles before work

>>76605080
>Aut issues in what way?
Socially pretty awkward. Reaction to things that upset her. Just actions. Its lowkey though in my opinion. The hardest is the anxiety and mental issues that come from it all.

>>76606903
>>76606921
Have to confront. Seems very sussy and the only way you are going to find out is to confront. Tell her everything you told us and say how you feel disrespected and want to know what is going on.

To be honest. Seems very likely she is cheating at the very least emotionally, which means she is already checked out. So start mentally preparing a life without her.

>>76609938
>>76609950
>>76610369
Thank you for update anon. I agree with everyone else that she emotionally cheated on you and the relationship is likely done. I personally don't see you trusting her every again. Not to mention, she straight up lied again when she could have come clean. So clearly something is worse than just "meeting a guy for ice cream".

Furthermore
>then she said that she was nervous and thought id be upset shes hanging out with that guy
So KNOWING you would be upset (first who hangs out with someone without telling their significant other) she STILL hung out with him. KNOWING you would be uncomfy. Any reasonable person would not do this.

So I think it's over anon, and you should figure out how to best cut ties.

>>76609960
Nah. Proof is in what she lied about, if she couldn't come clean like >>76610369 said when asked by OP then she will not come out with it later.

>>76611666
>when asked by OP then she will not come out with it later.
No shit, she lied and now he's still not sure what happened or if she fucked him. He should have gotten more proof before he confronted her, now he's still unsure and she probably cleaned up any evidence that was there.

>>76611595
sweeet. its little feet! very ct, thx anon

>>76599989
>I'm 40
>song slaps ong

No wonder you've never had pussy.

>>76609938
>she apologized
Anon I have bad news. She’s a man.


I have very rarely ever had women apologize to me for anything whether it’s family or a girl I was dating. Only only for small unimportant things, they never take accountability for any genuine issues. I can approach it in the best way possible
>hey when X happened I wasn’t okay with that, I’m not saying that to make you feel bad or attacked but that’s a boundary I’m not okay with being crossed
>immediately defense mode and deflection, projection, weird trying to argue nonsense never really saying anything maybe bring up something from the past where I immediately apologized and fixed it and it hadn’t been an issue since
At this point if I met a woman who could say sorry, especially where it’s legit important that she take accountability, I wouldn’t trust it and would think she was just trying to silence me by was of appeasement.


I’m convinced all women should be treated like hoes and nothing else matters. Are they sucking your dick without you even having to ask? Okay no problems idgaf what they do on the side that’s not my girlfriend. Oh now she wants commitment? Okay do I think she’s worthy of it? No? Then too bad. Maybe? Then she’ll have to prove she’s worthy that before a different bitch does.

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>35, very active
>started lifting a few months ago
>145lbs, ~17%BF
>I'm thinking of cutting to below 15% (maybe 12%) in order to have visible abs and then grow from there

Am I retarded? Does it make sense to cut at my current state?

>>76612576
>145lbs
Midget alert

>>76599089
We live in a shit pointless world and there is no such thing as meaning, only relativity. Happiness is a delusion. It's not really a big deal. The real problem was convincing everyone that consistent happiness, a made up concept, is achievable.

>>76610652
As opposed to what? Wasting the day doing whatever else? "Oh look at me I'm improving myself I have more income than I did before!" And yet you still hate yourself and have self doubt and aren't happy. How could this be?!?!

>>76612576
You got lost let me help
>>76597847

>>76612625
You sound like a miserable little faggot lol

>>76612700
People often do have negative reactions to having their delusions challenged, don't worry it's normal to want to demean me to make yourself feel better.

>>76612726
I want to demean you because you sound pathetic

>>76612731
If that's what you have to tell yourself.

>>76612738
I don't, that's what I have to tell you. I do what I enjoy every day, I look better every day, i have more money than I did last week, I get pussy 3x a day IF I WANT IT. If you don't think these things make you happier its because you're the fox that couldn't reach the grapes and you should be treated like it.

>>76612749
>he still gets dopamine hits off doing things because he is convinced that is achievement
It's more like been there done it, realized all that changed was gay men from /fit/ will sexually harass me more in the gym. You'll get there too maybe, though you seem far better at aggressive self delusion than myself.

>>76612755
I work out at home because I built my own gym so I dont have those issues. And no, you did not.

>>76612759
Maybe the problem is I'm just not willfully retarded enough to have low enough standards that working out every day will magically give me happy juice. I'll try to be more like you.

>>76612761
You should instead of trying to demoralize your betters

I even have more respect for >>76610652 than some poser because he at least acknowledges he could be doing better.

>>76601860
I think about it sometimes, but removing it takes away one of the few joys I get in life. I do drink more than I should, but the incentive to drink is strong: feeling like shit all the time takes a toll and you need to reset that sometimes
I used to live downtown and there were a lot of homeless people around. I used to despise them, bunch of useless drug addicts wrecking everything and asking for money as if they deserved any pity, and retarded people from elsewhere swearing they're charitable for giving them money they'll use to get drunk and create chaos.

But now I kind of envy them. My life is a million times better by any metric, but they're drunk and high all the time and free of burnout, stress and responsibility, roaming around drunk, never confined to four dull walls and glued to computers and phones. Sure they have a shit ton of worse problems, but at this point I'd kinda just wanna get drunk as fuck and die.

>>76612774
Damn spend that booze money on a therapist

>>76612778
Sure let's trade booze for benzos and platitudes, fantastic idea. Also the booze money is a fraction of what I'd spend in doctors and medication, not like I have time to waste in that shit anyways.
honestly I'd prefer benzos over booze, no hangover excess calories and they're probably cheaper, but I already have substitute drugs for alcohol I use every now and then. I enjoy sipping anyways. Taking a pill just for the effect isn't as relaxing.